On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 10:11:31AM -0500, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 11:18:57AM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> On 22.03.24 17:52, Robert Haas wrote:
>>> I'd like to complain about this commit's addition of a new appendix.
>> 
>> I already complained about that at 
>> <https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/42804669-7063-1320-ed37-3226d5f10...@eisentraut.org>
>> and some follow-up was announced but didn't happen.  It was on my list to
>> look into cleaning up during beta.
> 
> Sorry about this, I lost track of it.

Here's a first attempt at a patch based on Robert's suggestion from
upthread.

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Nathan Bossart
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>From c51703257821079016456b152e4a9f41169dad96 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Nathan Bossart <nat...@postgresql.org>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 11:26:56 -0500
Subject: [PATCH v1 1/1] Adjust documentation for syncfs().

Commit 8c16ad3b43 created a new appendix for syncfs(), which is
excessive for the small amount of content it contains.  This commit
moves the description of the caveats to be aware of when using
syncfs() back to the documentation for recovery_init_sync_method.
The documentation for the other utilities with syncfs() support now
directs readers to recovery_init_sync_method for information about
these caveats.

Reported-by: Peter Eisentraut
Suggested-by: Robert Haas
Discussion: https://postgr.es/m/42804669-7063-1320-ed37-3226d5f1067d%40eisentraut.org
Discussion: https://postgr.es/m/CA%2BTgmobUiqKr%2BZMCLc5Qap-sXBnjfGUU%2BZBmzYEjUuWyjsGr1g%40mail.gmail.com
---
 doc/src/sgml/config.sgml               | 12 ++++++---
 doc/src/sgml/filelist.sgml             |  1 -
 doc/src/sgml/postgres.sgml             |  1 -
 doc/src/sgml/ref/initdb.sgml           |  4 +--
 doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_basebackup.sgml    |  4 +--
 doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_checksums.sgml     |  4 +--
 doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_combinebackup.sgml |  4 +--
 doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dump.sgml          |  5 ++--
 doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_rewind.sgml        |  4 +--
 doc/src/sgml/ref/pgupgrade.sgml        |  4 +--
 doc/src/sgml/syncfs.sgml               | 36 --------------------------
 11 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 55 deletions(-)
 delete mode 100644 doc/src/sgml/syncfs.sgml

diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
index 65a6e6c408..5468637e2e 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
@@ -10870,9 +10870,15 @@ dynamic_library_path = 'C:\tools\postgresql;H:\my_project\lib;$libdir'
         On Linux, <literal>syncfs</literal> may be used instead, to ask the
         operating system to synchronize the file systems that contain the
         data directory, the WAL files and each tablespace (but not any other
-        file systems that may be reachable through symbolic links).  See
-        <xref linkend="syncfs"/> for more information about using
-        <function>syncfs()</function>.
+        file systems that may be reachable through symbolic links).  This may
+        be a lot faster than the <literal>fsync</literal> setting, because it
+        doesn't need to open each file one by one.  On the other hand, it may
+        be slower if a file system is shared by other applications that
+        modify a lot of files, since those files will also be written to disk.
+        Furthermore, on versions of Linux before 5.8, I/O errors encountered
+        while writing data to disk may not be reported to
+        <productname>PostgreSQL</productname>, and relevant error messages may
+        appear only in kernel logs.
        </para>
        <para>
         This parameter can only be set in the
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/filelist.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/filelist.sgml
index e0dca81cb2..c92a16c7ac 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/filelist.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/filelist.sgml
@@ -182,7 +182,6 @@
 <!ENTITY acronyms   SYSTEM "acronyms.sgml">
 <!ENTITY glossary   SYSTEM "glossary.sgml">
 <!ENTITY color      SYSTEM "color.sgml">
-<!ENTITY syncfs     SYSTEM "syncfs.sgml">
 
 <!ENTITY features-supported   SYSTEM "features-supported.sgml">
 <!ENTITY features-unsupported SYSTEM "features-unsupported.sgml">
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/postgres.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/postgres.sgml
index 2c107199d3..381af69be2 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/postgres.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/postgres.sgml
@@ -289,7 +289,6 @@ break is not needed in a wider output rendering.
   &acronyms;
   &glossary;
   &color;
-  &syncfs;
   &obsolete;
 
  </part>
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/initdb.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/initdb.sgml
index 377c3cb20a..dc9011b40e 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/initdb.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/initdb.sgml
@@ -394,8 +394,8 @@ PostgreSQL documentation
         On Linux, <literal>syncfs</literal> may be used instead to ask the
         operating system to synchronize the whole file systems that contain the
         data directory, the WAL files, and each tablespace.  See
-        <xref linkend="syncfs"/> for more information about using
-        <function>syncfs()</function>.
+        <xref linkend="guc-recovery-init-sync-method"/> for information about
+        the caveats to be aware of when using <literal>syncfs</literal>.
        </para>
        <para>
         This option has no effect when <option>--no-sync</option> is used.
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_basebackup.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_basebackup.sgml
index 208530f393..82d0c8e008 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_basebackup.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_basebackup.sgml
@@ -642,8 +642,8 @@ PostgreSQL documentation
         backup directory.  When the plain format is used,
         <command>pg_basebackup</command> will also synchronize the file systems
         that contain the WAL files and each tablespace.  See
-        <xref linkend="syncfs"/> for more information about using
-        <function>syncfs()</function>.
+        <xref linkend="guc-recovery-init-sync-method"/> for information about
+        the caveats to be aware of when using <literal>syncfs</literal>.
        </para>
        <para>
         This option has no effect when <option>--no-sync</option> is used.
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_checksums.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_checksums.sgml
index db5b29505c..95043aa329 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_checksums.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_checksums.sgml
@@ -152,8 +152,8 @@ PostgreSQL documentation
         On Linux, <literal>syncfs</literal> may be used instead to ask the
         operating system to synchronize the whole file systems that contain the
         data directory, the WAL files, and each tablespace.  See
-        <xref linkend="syncfs"/> for more information about using
-        <function>syncfs()</function>.
+        <xref linkend="guc-recovery-init-sync-method"/> for information about
+        the caveats to be aware of when using <literal>syncfs</literal>.
        </para>
        <para>
         This option has no effect when <option>--no-sync</option> is used.
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_combinebackup.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_combinebackup.sgml
index 8a0a600c2b..6f90dba281 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_combinebackup.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_combinebackup.sgml
@@ -176,8 +176,8 @@ PostgreSQL documentation
         backup directory.  When the plain format is used,
         <command>pg_combinebackup</command> will also synchronize the file systems
         that contain the WAL files and each tablespace.  See
-        <xref linkend="syncfs"/> for more information about using
-        <function>syncfs()</function>.
+        <xref linkend="guc-recovery-init-sync-method"/> for information about
+        the caveats to be aware of when using <literal>syncfs</literal>.
        </para>
        <para>
         This option has no effect when <option>--no-sync</option> is used.
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dump.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dump.sgml
index 8edf03a03d..b99793e414 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dump.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_dump.sgml
@@ -1319,8 +1319,9 @@ PostgreSQL documentation
        <para>
         On Linux, <literal>syncfs</literal> may be used instead to ask the
         operating system to synchronize the whole file system that contains the
-        archive directory.  See <xref linkend="syncfs"/> for more information
-        about using <function>syncfs()</function>.
+        archive directory.  See <xref linkend="guc-recovery-init-sync-method"/>
+        for information about the caveats to be aware of when using
+        <literal>syncfs</literal>.
        </para>
        <para>
         This option has no effect when <option>--no-sync</option> is used or
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_rewind.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_rewind.sgml
index 841bd49fc7..dc039d8756 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_rewind.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_rewind.sgml
@@ -297,8 +297,8 @@ PostgreSQL documentation
         On Linux, <literal>syncfs</literal> may be used instead to ask the
         operating system to synchronize the whole file systems that contain the
         data directory, the WAL files, and each tablespace.  See
-        <xref linkend="syncfs"/> for more information about using
-        <function>syncfs()</function>.
+        <xref linkend="guc-recovery-init-sync-method"/> for information about
+        the caveats to be aware of when using <literal>syncfs</literal>.
        </para>
        <para>
         This option has no effect when <option>--no-sync</option> is used.
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pgupgrade.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pgupgrade.sgml
index 8de52bf752..80a50377b1 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pgupgrade.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pgupgrade.sgml
@@ -204,8 +204,8 @@ PostgreSQL documentation
         On Linux, <literal>syncfs</literal> may be used instead to ask the
         operating system to synchronize the whole file systems that contain the
         upgraded cluster's data directory, its WAL files, and each tablespace.
-        See <xref linkend="syncfs"/> for more information about using
-        <function>syncfs()</function>.
+        See <xref linkend="guc-recovery-init-sync-method"/> for information
+        about the caveats to be aware of when using <literal>syncfs</literal>.
        </para>
        <para>
         This option has no effect when <option>--no-sync</option> is used.
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/syncfs.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/syncfs.sgml
deleted file mode 100644
index 00457d2457..0000000000
--- a/doc/src/sgml/syncfs.sgml
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,36 +0,0 @@
-<!-- doc/src/sgml/syncfs.sgml -->
-
-<appendix id="syncfs">
- <title><function>syncfs()</function> Caveats</title>
-
- <indexterm zone="syncfs">
-  <primary>syncfs</primary>
- </indexterm>
-
- <para>
-  On Linux <function>syncfs()</function> may be specified for some
-  configuration parameters (e.g.,
-  <xref linkend="guc-recovery-init-sync-method"/>), server applications (e.g.,
-  <application>pg_upgrade</application>), and client applications (e.g.,
-  <application>pg_basebackup</application>) that involve synchronizing many
-  files to disk.  <function>syncfs()</function> is advantageous in many cases,
-  but there are some trade-offs to keep in mind.
- </para>
-
- <para>
-  Since <function>syncfs()</function> instructs the operating system to
-  synchronize a whole file system, it typically requires many fewer system
-  calls than using <function>fsync()</function> to synchronize each file one by
-  one.  Therefore, using <function>syncfs()</function> may be a lot faster than
-  using <function>fsync()</function>.  However, it may be slower if a file
-  system is shared by other applications that modify a lot of files, since
-  those files will also be written to disk.
- </para>
-
- <para>
-  Furthermore, on versions of Linux before 5.8, I/O errors encountered while
-  writing data to disk may not be reported to the calling program, and relevant
-  error messages may appear only in kernel logs.
- </para>
-
-</appendix>
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