On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 13:45 -0700, Don Collier wrote: > > Paul M Foster wrote: > > See? This is what I'm talking about. > > > > *I* understand what you're saying, Don, and I agree. But this guy is > > just learning PHP from what is arguably not one of the best books on PHP > > (IMO). And you're throwing MVC at him. Let him master the subtleties of > > the language first, then we'll give him the MVC speech. > > > > Yes, I know, they should learn proper programming practices from the > > beginning, blah blah blah. But think back to the first programming > > language you ever learned, when you were first learning it. If someone > > had thrown stuff like this at you, would you have had a clue? I had > > enough trouble just learning the proper syntax and library routines for > > Dartmouth BASIC and Pascal, without having to deal with a lot of > > "metaprogramming" stuff. > > > > This is the problem when you get newbies asking questions on a list > > whose membership includes hardcore gurus. The gurus look at things in > > such a lofty way that answering simple questions at the level of a > > beginner sounds like a dissertation on the subtleties of Spanish art in > > the 1500s. > > > > Just my opinion. > > > > Paul > > > On that note, what would be a better book to learn from? I have always > been a fan of the O'Reilly books, but I am open to differing flavors of > kool-aid. One can never have too many resources. > I agree with your choice; never seen a bad O'Reilly book yet.
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