Mystery solved after looking into the actual .pkg files. They simply contain a
full Tcl/Tk which installs into /usr/local, which obviously affects anything
that links it dynamically. I somehow thought that they would install somewhere
separate. (Stop grinning, Simon!)
Anyways, the way forward must be to get Tcl/Tk compiled exactly as they were in
3.3.x.
-pd
> On 16 May 2017, at 15:18 , peter dalgaard <pda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Double-checked: Indeed, installing 3.3-branch-mavericks.pkg enables xft on my
> local builds of R-patched and R-devel. Hmmmm......
>
> -pd
>
>> On 16 May 2017, at 14:55 , peter dalgaard <pda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Curiouser and curiouser, now my local build of R-devel stopped using xft
>> _without any recompile_ I swear that it worked before I installed
>> R-3.4.0.pkg....
>>
>> I have both /opt/local/ and /usr/local variants of Tcl/Tk 8.6 and only the
>> former has wish8.6 understanding the tk::pkgconfig stuff, so there is plenty
>> of room for confusion. The latter seems to be from Simon's site; the other
>> one could be a MacPorts relic...
>>
>> -pd
>>
>>> On 16 May 2017, at 13:28 , peter dalgaard <pda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's a build issue relating to Tcl/Tk, not specifically Rcmdr (Rcmdr does
>>> something slightly weird[*] with the fonts too, but this seems to be
>>> orthogonal to the ugly-font issue).
>>>
>>> To see the issue quickly, try
>>>
>>> library(tcltk)
>>> .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem")
>>>
>>> With CRAN 3.3.3, I get
>>>
>>> <Tcl> xft
>>>
>>> and likewise with a local nightly build of R-devel, but CRAN 3.4.0 says
>>>
>>>> .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem")
>>> Error in .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem") :
>>> could not find function ".Tcl"
>>>
>>> as does a local build of R-patched (???!!!).
>>>
>>> This is pretty weird. I'll see if I can dig up some more about where the
>>> difference is.
>>>
>>> -pd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [*] Try library(tcltk); demo(tkfaq) then library(Rcmdr) and watch the font
>>> change in the tkfaq window.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 15 May 2017, at 23:17 , Fox, John <j...@mcmaster.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Jose,
>>>>
>>>> It's a bit difficult to respond to your latest messages because you sent
>>>> so many of them.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not entirely sure what's producing your font problems -- perhaps Simon
>>>> will have some additional ideas -- but you should be aware that you can't
>>>> load the Rcmdr package -- or, more generally, the tcltk package -- without
>>>> XQuartz (or another X11 system). Normally, XQuartz should start
>>>> automatically when the Rcmdr (or tcltk) package is loaded. That is, you
>>>> should not have to start it separately.
>>>>
>>>> It may help to know that the Rcmdr package selects its default dialog font
>>>> by querying the default Tk font, via the command
>>>>
>>>> tclvalue(.Tcl("font actual TkDefaultFont -family"))
>>>>
>>>> and sets the font for commands and output by querying the default Tk
>>>> fixed-width font:
>>>>
>>>> tclvalue(.Tcl("font actual TkFixedFont -family"))
>>>>
>>>> On my Macs, these are respectively the helvetica and courier fonts.
>>>>
>>>> In any event, I'm glad that you seem to have solved your problem.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jose G Conde Santiago [mailto:jose.con...@upr.edu]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 3:18 PM
>>>>> To: Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org>; Fox, John
>>>>> <j...@mcmaster.ca>; r-sig-mac@r-project.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R commander fonts on R 3.4.0
>>>>>
>>>>> When I run R without XQuartz, the text from the help screen renders
>>>>> well. I think the problem seems to be related to XQuartz.
>>>>>
>>>>> José
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>> Professor, School of Medicine
>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>> UPR Medical Sciences Campus
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel (787) 763-9401 Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: jose.con...@upr.edu
>>>>>
>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>> <jose.con...@upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> … and the same I get the same issue with R “help” screens in my iMac.
>>>>> I cannot reproduce this in the macBook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> José
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <R help .png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>>> Catedrático, Escuela de Medicina
>>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>>> Recinto de Ciencias Médicas, UPR
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel (787) 763-9401 Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Correo electrónico: jose.con...@upr.edu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>> <jose.con...@upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the actual resolutions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> José
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <Fonts 20 points.png>
>>>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>>>> Professor, School of Medicine
>>>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>>>> UPR Medical Sciences Campus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tel (787) 763-9401 Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email: jose.con...@upr.edu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>> <jose.con...@upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <Fonts 20 points.png>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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