Hallo, here the English version
https://artwashing-leipzig.de/open-letter/ 
<https://artwashing-leipzig.de/open-letter/>

please spread
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> On 5. May 2023, at 7.48, Andreas Broeckmann <andreas.broeckm...@leuphana.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> Carsten, man hat in Leipzig diskutiert:
> 
> 
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff:      artwashing
> Datum:        Fri, 5 May 2023 10:07:12 +0800
> Von:  Yuhsin Su <agnesyuhsi...@gmail.com>
> An:   Andreas Broeckmann <abro...@hgb-leipzig.de>
> 
> Dear Andreas,
> 
> <snip>
> 
> I would like to share with you the Open Letter regarding the involvement of 
> the surveillance company Palantir with the digital art exhibition 
> 'Dimensions' at Pittlerwerke Leipzig. Francis, our colleagues and I initiated 
> this letter.
> 
> The letter is online in German and English here: 
> https://artwashing-leipzig.de/
> 
> There you can also sign the letter.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> warmly,
> Yuhsin
> 
> -- 
> Su Yu Hsin
> 
> 
> 
> Am 04.05.23 um 08:36 schrieb Andreas Broeckmann:
>> Dear Carsten,
>> thank you for pointing this out. I'm also not aware of any "discussion" 
>> about this case (though I have heard that some people based in Leipzig 
>> explicitly did not want to go to the opening). I wonder whether some of the 
>> participating artists who are listed on the website (but who are probably 
>> not on this mailing list), would have something to say about the ethics of 
>> this particular sponsorship... (Who else would sponsor a digital art show 
>> like this? Do you think it would be better if it didn't take place at all? 
>> etc.)
>> These moral questions are similar for everybody involved, organisers, 
>> curators, artists, visitors. My guess is that for some of them it is a 
>> matter of 'pecunia non olet' ("money does not stink"), and the opportunity 
>> to show artworks in a (formally, spatially) generous context.
>> In the absence of a collective (what I think you disappointedly refer to as 
>> "this list"), decisions and actions are taken individually, especially when 
>> it comes to issues that affect us individually, like paying the bills, or 
>> getting a job, or having a name.
>> Just my two cents worth...
>> -a
>> Am 29.04.23 um 18:06 schrieb Carsten Stabenow:
>>> dear list,
>>> sorry for beeing maybe too cryptic.
>>> 
>>> but for those who might not have heard about this - there is a big media 
>>> art show running in leipzig at this moment - 
>>> https://www.dimensions-digital-art.de/
>>> 50 artists, some iconic works i was looking forward seeing again until i 
>>> learned, that the main sponsor of this show is PALANTIR - one of the most 
>>> frightening big data companies in the world.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies
>>> 
>>> for me it’s kind of alarming, that nobody really seems to care that weapon 
>>> industry (and thats what it is) is funding art shows. did the artists know 
>>> beforehand?
>>> there was some press (see below) but it seems there is no real discussion. 
>>> (at least i’m not aware of.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Palentir sponsert Schau zur digitalen Kunst  (faz 21.4.23)
>>> https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/kunst-und-architektur/walter-smerling-eroeffnet-digitalschau-dimensions-18835926.html?GEPC=s30
>>> 
>>> Liebe Kunst, erlöse uns (zeit 21.4.23)
>>> https://www.zeit.de/2023/17/ausstellung-dimensions-leipzig-palantir-sponsor
>>> 
>>> Der Untergang der Kunst (Kreuzer 22.4.23)
>>> https://kreuzer-leipzig.de/2023/04/22/der-untergang-der-kunst
>>> 
>>> Walter Smerling plant neue Ausstellung (süddeutsche 1.3.23)
>>> https://www.sueddeutsche.de/kultur/walter-smerling-leipzig-digitalkunst-palantir-1.5760664
>>> 
>>> Daten als neue Munition (taz 9.3.23)
>>> https://taz.de/Ukraine-nutzt-KI-von-Palantir/!5917538&s=palantir/
>>> 
>>> How the algorithm tipped the balance in Ukraine (washington post 19.12.22)
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/12/19/palantir-algorithm-data-ukraine-war/
>>> 
>>> Palantir wirbt mit KI-Plattform zur Kriegsführung (heise 28.4.23)
>>> https://www.heise.de/news/Palantir-wirbt-mit-KI-Plattform-zur-Kriegsfuehrung-8981871.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> have a nice weekend, c.
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