William, this is exactly why I search in the sage-trac Google group rather 
than on the trac website. The sage-trac group is also good for browsing to 
see recent activity.

On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 11:12:59 AM UTC-7 wst...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 10:27 AM Matthias Koeppe
> <matthia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 10:14:26 AM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote:
> >>
> >> On Saturday, 17 September 2022 at 17:55:10 UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The conversion of the Trac tickets to GitHub Issues/PRs only works in 
> one shot. Incrementally syncing updates from Trac to existing issues is not 
> possible.
> >>
> >>
> >> Migration *to* GH is one thing, but as has been pointed out, we should 
> have an exit strategy as well, or at least an idea of a roadmap to move 
> from github to elsewhere. The code itself is trivial to move: it's a git 
> repo. However, as has been shown in the past, the discussions (now in 
> tickets on trac, but if moved in issues and PRs) can sometimes be of 
> immense value as well. I suppose that if moving from GH to GL is as trivial 
> as claimed before, GH must have a way of exporting issues and PRs.
> >>
> >> Would someone be able to give an informed assessment or a feasibility 
> study of extracting issues and PRs from GH? How searchable are they and how 
> do cross-links survive an extraction (also important for trac-to-GH)? 
> Presently, trac is fairly searchable due to its own search functions plus 
> its general indexing by google's search engine. Hopefully we'd have 
> something at least matching that for GH.
> >>
> >> Perhaps part of our setup should also be that we "backup" this part of 
> our github setup: githubs own infrastructure is of course excellently 
> resilient against technological problems but a new failure mode is 
> introduced due to their governance and policy: in the extremely unlikely 
> event that sagemath on GH would get "locked" due to a misunderstanding (or 
> malice?) we might not be at their mercy for extracting our valuable history.
> >
> >
> > I agree that it would be valuable to add at least some starting points 
> in this direction.
> > As a beginning, I have created the section:
> > 
> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/wiki/migration-from-trac-to-Git**b#retrieving-data-from-github
> > to include the link https://docs.github.com/en/rest to GitHub's REST 
> API, which gives access to everything and is extremely well documented.
>
> I used this GitHub REST API a lot recently to implement proxying of
> content from GitHub to CoCalc, and it is indeed *extremely* good.
>
> This is a 3 minute video demoing importing github repos to gitlab,
> which emphasizes answers to a lot of natural frequent questions
> (involving users, issue comments, labels, etc.):
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOXuOg9tQI
>
> In my experience, the search built into GitHub is at least 10x (or
> maybe 100x?) faster than our trac search, e.g., try searching
> https://trac.sagemath.org/search versus
> https://github.com/python/cpython/issues . In addition GitHub's
> advanced search capabilities are useful (in terms of sorting, refining
> queries, querying by label, etc.).
>
>
> -- 
> William (http://wstein.org)
>

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