Le 11/02/2013 22:57, William Stein a écrit :
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Christian Kuper
<christian.ku...@t-online.de> wrote:
Hello Harald,

thanks for your quick reply

Honestly personal answer: no. But I'm happy to be proven wrong :-)


I would be greatly interested in your opinion why you think "no". Simulation
does play a big role when analysing systems (which I use Sage for) and I
personally like having the whole toolbox "in one piece". However, it surely
does not make sense to integrate everything into Sage and I am not fully
aware of the Sage philosophy of what would be sensible to put into Sage and
what not.

The mission statement of the Sage project is: "Create a viable free
open source alternative to Magma, Maple, Matlab, and Mathematica."
I came up with this statement one year after starting the project, and
have stuck with it since; it seems to provide good general guidance.

Thus if there is some functionality of interest in Matlab (say), then
it belongs in Sage.    I'm guessing the Simulink package in Matlab
thus justifies something relevant to this email as belonging in Sage.

William



Well, as I am doing numerical analysis and "scientific computing", I agree...

But if we look at the list of Matlab Toolboxes:
http://www.mathworks.fr/products/
we can say that a lot have been done (if we are optimistic), or that a lot remains to be done...

More seriously:
-we would need to have Finite Elements (and finite volumes), and tools
to build Finite Elements meshes (matlab pde toolbox...); at least this would be a great tool for teaching to have FE integrated in Sage. But then the question will be: which FE code to put in Sage? Many are oriented towards a group of applications, and very limited when they are free.
I like FreeFem++
http://www.freefem.org/ff++/index.htm
because it does not hide mathematics! But integrating it in Sage would certainly be a hard task, I think. Any opinion about this?

-in my country, many people use matlab only for graphics; Sage as good graphics, but not yet exactly at the same level as matlab.

-parallelism: matlab as some interesting things...Sage has only mpi and "forks"...

So, there is much to do (which is great)...

t.d.


Since it is a normal python package, the first step of integrating this
into sage is to package it as an experimental SPKG. Then, it is at least
very easy to install.


Fully agree, I did not have making a simulation part of the standard in
mind. As I said, I created a "personal experimental package" and integrated
it ito one of my Sage installs. This is absolutly sufficient for my personal
use. However, if the community thinks it is worthwhile I would put it up for
review.

Christian

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