That's what this discussion and the wiki page are for, right? Are you suggesting or asking for something else?
John On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 11:21:28 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > IMHO it's better for a potential donor to see more info on how the > money is spent, with the list of events/tasks on what the donations > are spent. An Sage project outsider won't have a clue, and might have > a feeling it goes into a sinkhole rather than into well-specified > meaningful activities. > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 4:54 PM John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 7:36:52 AM UTC-7, William wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 3:45 AM, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 11:21 AM Volker Braun <vbrau...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Afair the Sage foundation is a US non-profit with the necessary > accounting busywork graciously provided by UW; So I'm sure there is similar > reporting thats either published or available to the public. > >> > > >> > >> Let me try a rough attempt at answering some of the questions in this > >> thread. Please ask followup questions or let me know if this is > >> helpful. We could then add some version of this to the sagemath.org > >> website. > >> > >> More precisely the "Sage Foundation" is really just the name of a > >> donation account (a budget number) at University of Washington. That's > >> it. UW itself is some sort of not-for-profit (though not a 501(c)3), > >> so when people donate they can get a tax deduction. > >> > >> For the last few years, the main purpose of the Sage foundation has > been: > >> > >> - accept donations from an anonymous retired person and a Microsoft > >> Research to fund "Women in Sage" workshops, > >> - accept a couple of small "random" donations, which for a couple of > >> years have gone entirely to funding "The Sage booth" at math > >> conferences (e.g., JMM and Mathfest), where a couple of us talk to > >> hundreds of people who stream by. These donations are often on the > >> order of a total of $50-$100/month, but it adds up, and sometimes > >> there is occasionally more. > >> > >> One very nice aspect of this arrangement is that Univ of Washington > >> does not charge anything at all for > >> operating this account. So when somebody donates $50, we get to fully > >> spend that $50. E.g., when there > >> is a women in sage workshop, there's a ton of paperwork by UW involved > >> in reimbursing everybody, and this > >> is just done for free. > >> > >> Another possibly relevant data point (in case I were to leave UW) is > >> probably the Chair of the UW math department > >> right now is John Palmieri, who is also a Sage developer. > > > > > > Yes, and we're happy to accept donations in any amount, to the Sage > foundation fund or to any of a number of other funds, if you want to > support other efforts of the UW math department. (I can give you a > prioritized list, if you're interested :) And as chair of the department, I > am in charge of the funds, to answer Frédéric's question, and note that I > am legally bound to use them according to the fund's description and in > ways that are appropriate for a not-for-profit institution. (I am not in my > office now, so I can't look up the description right now, but it probably > just says "To support the development of the mathematical software system > SAGE," as it does on the donation page.) Also, I would defer to William > about how to use it (since he is one of our faculty members, and the > department set up the fund to help his work on Sage); I do not plan to use > it without asking him, and if he has a valid use for it, I would approve > it. > > > > As far as I know, there are no published reports of how the funds are > used. This is not because it is secret – legally, I think the use of the > funds should be public knowledge – but rather because there are so many of > them. Our department might have 50 different funds to which people can > donate (various scholarship funds for undergraduates, fellowship funds for > graduates, funds for endowed professorships, general purpose funds, highly > specialized funds, and multiples of each of these types), and if you > extrapolate to the rest of the university and imagine publishing a report > for each one, it gets out of control very quickly. If William's answer is > not good enough, I can ask our departmental administrator for all of the > recent uses of the Sage foundation money. > > > > John > > > > > >> > >> > >> -- William > >> > >> >> Though I've never read the Oberwolfach financial report ;-) > >> > maybe I was wrong. As a member of their "Förderverein" I do get > annual > >> > reports (no idea whether they are confidential)... > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 1:18:53 PM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik > wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Similar foundations, e.g. the one of Oberwolfach Institute, > publish > >> >>> their annual finance reports. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-devel" group. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-devel" group. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. > >> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> William (http://wstein.org) > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-devel" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > > To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. 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