Critical but it's not a blocker, in my opinion.

On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, Emmanuel Charpentier 
wrote:
>
> This <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-devel/JuxpFfaKYzA> seems 
> seems to be a showstopper, enough to trump the best laid out plans of mice, 
> men and mathematicians.
>
> No ticket yet, but I agree that this seems critical. 
>
> Le mardi 18 décembre 2018 12:50:44 UTC+1, E. Madison Bray a écrit :
>>
>> As pointed out by Samuel last month [1] the transition freeze (i.e. 
>> new package versions) for the next major Debian release (buster) is 
>> coming up January 12 [2].  This is important for Sage and those 
>> working to package Sage for Debian, as it will impact what version of 
>> Sage is available in Debian, and by extension big name Debian-based 
>> distributions such as Ubuntu and Mint that carry with them probably 
>> the majority of users on Linux. 
>>
>> Setting what version of Sage will be in Debian, prior to the freeze, 
>> is not such a big deal in its own right as not many packages depend on 
>> Sage.  However, it does impact what versions of Sage's many 
>> dependencies can be included, and GAP perhaps has the largest impact 
>> there, as there are also many packages that depend on GAP (mostly GAP 
>> packages). 
>>
>> The biggest sticking point right now to packaging Sage for Debian is 
>> thus what version of GAP can go in Debian as well (and I don't think 
>> the GAP community will be too happy about it if the GAP version gets 
>> held back because of Sage; though the more likely outcome there is 
>> that Sage gets held back (or excluded entirely) if it can't work with 
>> the new GAP). 
>>
>> Thus some of us have been working hard to find a working convergence 
>> between Sage and GAP 4.10.x.  That work is nearly ready [3] (pending 
>> some needed patches to GAP), and given the normal rate of Sage's 
>> release cycle it would be a shame to have this work excluded from Sage 
>> 8.5, considering that it is the major blocker for Debian. 
>>
>> Therefore I propose doing a few more rounds of Sage 8.5 pre-releases 
>> specifically with the focus of upgrading GAP: Completing #22626 which 
>> I think will be ready-enough by tomorrow (I would prefer to wait until 
>> GAP 4.10.1 is out but starting testing now would be better) and 
>> sending it to the patchbots, while putting a hold on any other 
>> non-critical fixes. 
>>
>> If for some reason that's impossible then we should quickly release a 
>> Sage 8.6 that is focused primarily on GAP 4.10 compatibility. 
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> Erik 
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/ztLmB2xWFig/kWk7LGycCQAJ 
>> [2] https://release.debian.org/buster/freeze_policy.html 
>> [3] https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/22626 
>>
>

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