Re: Abdu'l-Baha's knowledge of English
Susan: Dear Ron and Sandra, I think Abdu'l-Baha's knowledge of English may well have been adequate to understand people without an interpreter much of the time, at least by the time He left America. I suspect speaking English back to them may have been more of a problem. But when a translator got it wrong, He was often able to correct them. I agree, and should have been clearer in my reply. I feel it wasn't so much a lack of understanding as fluency. I've been in two environments when I understood Spanish and later Inupiaq (in the last century) ...enough so that words were chosen carefully around me ; ) Still was not able to converse in those languages. Sandra __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Abdu'l-Baha's knowledge of English
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 05:02:22 -0900, Sandra Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan: Dear Ron and Sandra, I think Abdu'l-Baha's knowledge of English may well have been adequate to understand people without an interpreter much of the time, at least by the time He left America. I suspect speaking English back to them may have been more of a problem. But when a translator got it wrong, He was often able to correct them. I agree, and should have been clearer in my reply. I feel it wasn't so much a lack of understanding as fluency. Hello, I didn't closely follow the omniscience discussion so I'm not sure if specific claims along these lines were made in the Bahai writings regarding Abdul-Baha but aren't both *knowing* how to understand a language and *knowing* how to speak a language two things which would be included in omniscience? Peace Gilberto __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Abdu'l-Baha's knowledge of English
Hi, Gilberto, At 08:42 AM 1/1/2005, you wrote: I didn't closely follow the omniscience discussion so I'm not sure if specific claims along these lines were made in the Bahai writings regarding Abdul-Baha but aren't both *knowing* how to understand a language and *knowing* how to speak a language two things which would be included in omniscience? Whether `Abdu'l-Baha was omniscient at will may be unknown. The pilgrim's note (hadith) cited earlier from Stanwood Cobb has no Baha'i scriptural status. However, `Abdu'l-Baha did, at least at times, appear to have superhuman knowledge. I am just speculating, but it seems possible that `Abdu'l-Baha could have had access to certain sorts of knowledge, perhaps under particular circumstances, without being omniscient (all-knowing). With regards, Mark A. Foster * 15 Sites: http://markfoster.net Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburger -- Abbie Hoffman __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
