Re: Myth or fact?

2014-04-03 Thread Hasan Elías
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Sometimes the NSAs, even the UHJ ask believers to pray for the departed, 
sometimes the NSAs or LSAs ask believers to pray for ill people, or for the 
people after a natural disaster (earthquake, etc.). I don't know if these 
examples fit prayers in unison, it is just about the effect of numbers: many 
people pray, better probabilities of success.

Hasan

El Viernes, 21 de febrero, 2014 3:34 P.M., Gary Selchert ebedeyn...@aol.com 
escribió:
 
 
The Baha'i Studies ListservIhave always found the idea a little hard to swallow 
that God is so democratic that He waits to tally the prayer/votes before He 
decides on the wisdom of a course of action.When I pray, I pray for the wisdom 
and serenity to accept what God has already in infinite and eternal wisdom 
chosen. Sometimes I whine though too, like Tevye. If I were a wealthy man...

Gary


 

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There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is 
pray in unison for something 
 
This notion is not pervasive in my experience.  I have not heard of this 
praying in unison; it's not something that is discussed or done in my area.   
Why do you think this is pervasive?
 
 
Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to answer sincere prayers 

 
   I always start from the premise that God is not stupid.  :-)  Of course He 
will hear and answer
   sincere prayers.
 
 
Tim 

The only mortal sin is giving up. 

  --Stephen King

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There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is 
pray in unison for something (from wherever they are at the time) the effect is 
far more powerful than if they pray at different times.  Is there any 
foundation for this in the Writings, though?  Because if there isn't it sure 
looks to me to be myth.  Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to 
answer sincere prayers just because they aren't all said at the same time?

David
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Re: Myth or fact?

2014-02-21 Thread Tim Nolan
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There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is 
pray in unison for something 
 
This notion is not pervasive in my experience.  I have not heard of this 
praying in unison; it's not something that is discussed or done in my area.   
Why do you think this is pervasive?
 
 
Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to answer sincere prayers 

 
   I always start from the premise that God is not stupid.  :-)  Of course He 
will hear and answer
   sincere prayers.
 

Tim 

The only mortal sin is giving up. 

  --Stephen King
 


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There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is 
pray in unison for something (from wherever they are at the time) the effect is 
far more powerful than if they pray at different times.  Is there any 
foundation for this in the Writings, though?  Because if there isn't it sure 
looks to me to be myth.  Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to 
answer sincere prayers just because they aren't all said at the same time?

David
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Re: Myth or fact?

2014-02-21 Thread Gary Selchert
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I have always found the idea a little hard to swallow that God is so democratic 
that He waits to tally the prayer/votes before He decides on the wisdom of a 
course of action.When I pray, I pray for the wisdom and serenity to accept what 
God has already in infinite and eternal wisdom chosen. Sometimes I whine though 
too, like Tevye. If I were a wealthy man...

Gary



 

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There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is 
pray in unison for something 
 
This notion is not pervasive in my experience.  I have not heard of this 
praying in unison; it's not something that is discussed or done in my area.   
Why do you think this is pervasive?
 
 
 Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to answer sincere prayers 
 
 
   I always start from the premise that God is not stupid.  :-)  Of course He 
will hear and answer
   sincere prayers.
 

 
Tim

The only mortal sin is giving up.

  --Stephen King


  
 
 
 
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There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is 
pray in unison for something (from wherever they are at the time) the effect is 
far more powerful than if they pray at different times.  Is there any 
foundation for this in the Writings, though?  Because if there isn't it sure 
looks to me to be myth.  Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to 
answer sincere prayers just because they aren't all said at the same time?


David





 
 
  


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Myth or fact?

2014-02-20 Thread David Regal
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There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is 
pray in unison for something (from wherever they are at the time) the effect is 
far more powerful than if they pray at different times.  Is there any 
foundation for this in the Writings, though?  Because if there isn't it sure 
looks to me to be myth.  Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to 
answer sincere prayers just because they aren't all said at the same time?

David

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Re: Myth or fact?

2014-02-20 Thread Susan Maneck
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A lot of time it has been suggested that Baha'is pray at a certain
time for something or other, but I've never heard it suggested they
pray in unison or that it has a special power beyond our sense of
unity.

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 There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of
 Baha'is pray in unison for something (from wherever they are at the time)
 the effect is far more powerful than if they pray at different times.  Is
 there any foundation for this in the Writings, though?  Because if there
 isn't it sure looks to me to be myth.  Is God so legalistic that He would be
 less inclined to answer sincere prayers just because they aren't all said at
 the same time?

 David

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