Re: Myth or fact?
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Sometimes the NSAs, even the UHJ ask believers to pray for the departed, sometimes the NSAs or LSAs ask believers to pray for ill people, or for the people after a natural disaster (earthquake, etc.). I don't know if these examples fit prayers in unison, it is just about the effect of numbers: many people pray, better probabilities of success. Hasan El Viernes, 21 de febrero, 2014 3:34 P.M., Gary Selchert ebedeyn...@aol.com escribió: The Baha'i Studies ListservIhave always found the idea a little hard to swallow that God is so democratic that He waits to tally the prayer/votes before He decides on the wisdom of a course of action.When I pray, I pray for the wisdom and serenity to accept what God has already in infinite and eternal wisdom chosen. Sometimes I whine though too, like Tevye. If I were a wealthy man... Gary -Original Message- From: Tim Nolan tnola...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Fri, Feb 21, 2014 3:19 am Subject: Re: Myth or fact? The Baha'i Studies Listserv There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is pray in unison for something This notion is not pervasive in my experience. I have not heard of this praying in unison; it's not something that is discussed or done in my area. Why do you think this is pervasive? Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to answer sincere prayers I always start from the premise that God is not stupid. :-) Of course He will hear and answer sincere prayers. Tim The only mortal sin is giving up. --Stephen King From: David Regal david.re...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:19 PM Subject: Myth or fact? The Baha'i Studies Listserv There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is pray in unison for something (from wherever they are at the time) the effect is far more powerful than if they pray at different times. Is there any foundation for this in the Writings, though? Because if there isn't it sure looks to me to be myth. Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to answer sincere prayers just because they aren't all said at the same time? David __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-747389-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Myth or fact?
The Baha'i Studies Listserv There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is pray in unison for something This notion is not pervasive in my experience. I have not heard of this praying in unison; it's not something that is discussed or done in my area. Why do you think this is pervasive? Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to answer sincere prayers I always start from the premise that God is not stupid. :-) Of course He will hear and answer sincere prayers. Tim The only mortal sin is giving up. --Stephen King From: David Regal david.re...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:19 PM Subject: Myth or fact? The Baha'i Studies Listserv There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is pray in unison for something (from wherever they are at the time) the effect is far more powerful than if they pray at different times. Is there any foundation for this in the Writings, though? Because if there isn't it sure looks to me to be myth. Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to answer sincere prayers just because they aren't all said at the same time? David __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-742360-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Myth or fact?
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I have always found the idea a little hard to swallow that God is so democratic that He waits to tally the prayer/votes before He decides on the wisdom of a course of action.When I pray, I pray for the wisdom and serenity to accept what God has already in infinite and eternal wisdom chosen. Sometimes I whine though too, like Tevye. If I were a wealthy man... Gary -Original Message- From: Tim Nolan tnola...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Fri, Feb 21, 2014 3:19 am Subject: Re: Myth or fact? The Baha'i Studies Listserv There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is pray in unison for something This notion is not pervasive in my experience. I have not heard of this praying in unison; it's not something that is discussed or done in my area. Why do you think this is pervasive? Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to answer sincere prayers I always start from the premise that God is not stupid. :-) Of course He will hear and answer sincere prayers. Tim The only mortal sin is giving up. --Stephen King From: David Regal david.re...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:19 PM Subject: Myth or fact? The Baha'i Studies Listserv There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is pray in unison for something (from wherever they are at the time) the effect is far more powerful than if they pray at different times. Is there any foundation for this in the Writings, though? Because if there isn't it sure looks to me to be myth. Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to answer sincere prayers just because they aren't all said at the same time? David __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-742429-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Myth or fact?
The Baha'i Studies Listserv There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is pray in unison for something (from wherever they are at the time) the effect is far more powerful than if they pray at different times. Is there any foundation for this in the Writings, though? Because if there isn't it sure looks to me to be myth. Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to answer sincere prayers just because they aren't all said at the same time? David __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-742337-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Myth or fact?
The Baha'i Studies Listserv A lot of time it has been suggested that Baha'is pray at a certain time for something or other, but I've never heard it suggested they pray in unison or that it has a special power beyond our sense of unity. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:19 PM, David Regal david.re...@yahoo.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv There seems to be a pervasive belief amongst Baha'is that if a lot of Baha'is pray in unison for something (from wherever they are at the time) the effect is far more powerful than if they pray at different times. Is there any foundation for this in the Writings, though? Because if there isn't it sure looks to me to be myth. Is God so legalistic that He would be less inclined to answer sincere prayers just because they aren't all said at the same time? David __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-742340-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu