Re: Fulfilled yet?

2014-01-14 Thread Susan Maneck
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Any tech savy young man can find its way around website bans.

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:37 AM, David Regal david.re...@yahoo.com wrote:
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 'A mechanism of world inter-communication will be devised, embracing the
 whole planet, freed from national hindrances and restrictions, and
 functioning with marvellous swiftness and perfect regularity.'

 I've heard Baha'is say this prophecy has already been fulfilled by the
 internet.  While I'm pretty sure it refers to the internet, has it really
 been entirely fulfilled yet?  Freed from national hindrances?  China bans a
 lot of sites.  North Koreans don't have much access yet.  Marvellous
 swiftness?  I've heard a lot of complaining about broadband speeds in
 various places.  I think few would agree that the internet functions with
 marvellous swiftness everywhere.

 David

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Re: Fulfilled yet?

2014-01-14 Thread Tim Nolan
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few would agree that the internet functions with  marvellous swiftness 
everywhere.


Compared to what we had 40 years ago  -U.S. Postal mail - the paper kind, 
compared to that, the internet is truly marvelously swift.

It used to take a week or more to mail a letter  from the U.S. to Japan.
Now it takes maybe 5 minutes.

Tim 

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 From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: Fulfilled yet?
  

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Any tech savy young man can find its way around website bans.

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:37 AM, David Regal david.re...@yahoo.com wrote:
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 'A mechanism of world inter-communication will be devised, embracing the
 whole planet, freed from national hindrances and restrictions, and
 functioning with marvellous swiftness and perfect regularity.'

 I've heard Baha'is say this prophecy has already been fulfilled by the
 internet.  While I'm pretty sure it refers to the internet, has it really
 been entirely fulfilled yet?  Freed from national hindrances?  China bans a
 lot of sites.  North Koreans don't have much access yet.  Marvellous
 swiftness?  I've heard a lot of complaining about broadband speeds in
 various places.  I think few would agree that the internet functions with
 marvellous swiftness everywhere.

 David

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Re: Fulfilled yet?

2014-01-14 Thread Don Calkins
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Once upon a time, even tho’ the internet technically existed, it was not 
generally available, not even to all gov’t agencies.  Don’t remember his name, 
but he was a Baha’i working for a state department of agriculture extension 
service, maybe for Wisconsin.  How pleased he was to be able to use FidoNet to 
send msgs to the hinterlands of Africa.  With a little luck, they could ask a 
question via FidoNet and have an answer in as little as 3-4 days, compared to, 
possibly, that may weeks by conventional mail.

Don C

On Jan 14, 2014, at 2:19 21PM, Tim Nolan tnola...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Compared to what we had 40 years ago  -U.S. Postal mail - the paper kind, 
 compared to that, the internet is truly marvelously swift.
  
 It used to take a week or more to mail a letter  from the U.S. to Japan.
 Now it takes maybe 5 minutes.
  


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Re: Fulfilled yet?

2014-01-14 Thread carl stefan

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i am puzzled that i started getting email from the list.jccc.edu . not 
that i object to anything said
but am wondering how i got added and didnt know it.  any admins around 
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i would like to stay with it  but need a way to get off if it gets to be 
too much.

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Once upon a time, even tho’ the internet technically existed, it was 
not generally available, not even to all gov’t agencies.  Don’t 
remember his name, but he was a Baha’i working for a state department 
of agriculture extension service, maybe for Wisconsin.  How pleased he 
was to be able to use FidoNet to send msgs to the hinterlands of 
Africa.  With a little luck, they could ask a question via FidoNet and 
have an answer in as little as 3-4 days, compared to, possibly, that 
may weeks by conventional mail.


Don C

On Jan 14, 2014, at 2:19 21PM, Tim Nolan tnola...@yahoo.com 
mailto:tnola...@yahoo.com wrote:


Compared to what we had 40 years ago  -U.S. Postal mail - the paper 
kind, 

compared to that, the internet is truly marvelously swift.
It used to take a week or more to mail a letter  from the U.S. to Japan.
Now it takes maybe 5 minutes.



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Re: Fulfilled yet?

2014-01-14 Thread carl stefan

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pertinent? just some background on the web:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

On 1/14/2014 4:58 PM, Don Calkins wrote:


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Once upon a time, even tho’ the internet technically existed, it was 
not generally available, not even to all gov’t agencies.  Don’t 
remember his name, but he was a Baha’i working for a state department 
of agriculture extension service, maybe for Wisconsin.  How pleased he 
was to be able to use FidoNet to send msgs to the hinterlands of 
Africa.  With a little luck, they could ask a question via FidoNet and 
have an answer in as little as 3-4 days, compared to, possibly, that 
may weeks by conventional mail.


Don C

On Jan 14, 2014, at 2:19 21PM, Tim Nolan tnola...@yahoo.com 
mailto:tnola...@yahoo.com wrote:


Compared to what we had 40 years ago  -U.S. Postal mail - the paper 
kind, 

compared to that, the internet is truly marvelously swift.
It used to take a week or more to mail a letter  from the U.S. to Japan.
Now it takes maybe 5 minutes.



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Re: Fulfilled yet?

2014-01-14 Thread Don Calkins
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There’s unsub info at the bottom of each email.

I think I suggested you join, but certainly didn’t subscribe you.  I don’t 
think I can.

Don C

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 i am puzzled that i started getting email from the list.jccc.edu . not that i 
 object to anything said
 but am wondering how i got added and didnt know it.  any admins around to 
 explain? fyi
 i would like to stay with it  but need a way to get off if it gets to be too 
 much.
 thanks.


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Re: Fulfilled yet?

2014-01-14 Thread Susan Maneck
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If you check the bottom of your messages you'll see the unsubscribe
directions are below. I think you've been subscribed for some time but
the list has been fairly dead lately so you probably didn't realize
it.

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:01 PM, carl stefan stefan.c...@gmail.com wrote:
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 i am puzzled that i started getting email from the list.jccc.edu . not that
 i object to anything said
 but am wondering how i got added and didnt know it.  any admins around to
 explain? fyi
 i would like to stay with it  but need a way to get off if it gets to be too
 much.
 thanks.



 On 1/14/2014 4:58 PM, Don Calkins wrote:


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 Once upon a time, even tho’ the internet technically existed, it was not
 generally available, not even to all gov’t agencies.  Don’t remember his
 name, but he was a Baha’i working for a state department of agriculture
 extension service, maybe for Wisconsin.  How pleased he was to be able to
 use FidoNet to send msgs to the hinterlands of Africa.  With a little luck,
 they could ask a question via FidoNet and have an answer in as little as 3-4
 days, compared to, possibly, that may weeks by conventional mail.

 Don C

 On Jan 14, 2014, at 2:19 21PM, Tim Nolan tnola...@yahoo.com
 mailto:tnola...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Compared to what we had 40 years ago  -U.S. Postal mail - the paper kind,
 
 compared to that, the internet is truly marvelously swift.
 It used to take a week or more to mail a letter  from the U.S. to Japan.
 Now it takes maybe 5 minutes.



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