Re: Ruhi - a data point from Houston
I completely agree about Ruhi and youth. Here is my post from 2001: http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist/m29288.html Unfortunately from then to now there hasn't been a Book 2 offering in our community as many others became enthusiastic and there have been several more Book 1 study circles. It has also been stated here in Alaska that Jr.Youth should not take the Ruhi course but, instead take the course (patterned after Ruhi) especially for Youth. I'm not sure what that is called. I'm curious if it is the same elsewhere. Regardless, it is only offered to Youth groups 15 and above and he is now 14. When will we ever focus on Jr. Youth as the House of Justice directed 3years ago ?!? lovingly, Sandra __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
RE: Ruhi - a data point from Houston
It has also been stated here in Alaska that Jr.Youth should not take the Ruhi course but, instead take the course (patterned after Ruhi) especially for Youth. Dear Sandra, I don't quite get that, nor have I seen anything like it in the lower 48. My experience is that children as young as 10 or 11 grasp how to do the basic exercises much quicker than the adults do, they stay focused better and get through the material quicker. It is certainly not too complicated for them. warmest, Susan __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Ruhi - a data point from Houston
In a message dated 1/22/2005 10:32:19 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Sandra,I don't quite get that, nor have I seen anything like it in the lower 48. Myexperience is that children as young as 10 or 11 grasp how to do the basicexercises much quicker than the adults do, they stay focused better and getthrough the material quicker. It is certainly not too complicated for them.warmest, Susan When my daughter took the course there was no "Youth" Book 1. But she is an honor student, with a 4.0 average through middle school and high school and had no trouble with the material. I figure Ruhi is pretty straightforward, and written in a concrete reasoning kindof way. I certainly see no reason why it has to be watered down for youth. Ihave never seen a youth who could not grasp it. As it is, my daughter has finished all the available books but 5, and is one of the few people in the cluster, youth or not who has actually completed so much of the curriculum. Scott __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Ruhi - a data point from Houston
In a message dated 1/21/2005 2:04:30 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for me, I sat and suffered through one session of Ruhi and was ready to putgun to my head after that. So it may not be for an old dog like me, but as Isaid it was God-sent for my son.Regards, Ahang. My younger daughter has blossomed with it as well. I have no doubt it does good, I also have no doubt it is not sufficient to itself for all. Regards, Scott __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Ruhi - a data point from Houston
In a message dated 1/21/2005 2:04:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for me, I sat and suffered through one session of Ruhi and was ready to putgun to my head after that. So it may not be for an old dog like me, but as Isaid it was God-sent for my son. Dear Ahang, The same thing is true for me and my son, on both counts. Only I suffered through the *entire* Book One. I took Neil to the Holy Land with me in December of 2000. Mr. Furutan had quite a talk with him about the Covenant and the necessity of reading the Writings every morning and evening. Last year when I had made some disparagingly commentabout Ruhi,Neil said to me, "Mom,I've been reading theWritings ever since that meeting with Mr. Furutan but the Writings are hard to understand. Ruhi helps." Neil had been reading the Writings fluently at Feast since he was eight years old. It never occurred to me that he might not understand what he was reading. I must say, Neil made the best argument for Ruhi I've heard thus far. warmest, Susan __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Ruhi - a data point from Houston
In a message dated 1/21/2005 3:32:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It sparks a fire in youth in my estimation, and those who are not well deepened. Those who spent years doing it the old way mostly find it redundant and repetitive as well as having heard it before. Exactly. And we do need to keep in mind that Ruhi wasn't designed for us, it was designed to consolidate mass enrollments. warmest, Susan __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Ruhi - a data point from Houston
Susan: "Exactly. And we do need to keep in mind that Ruhi wasn't designed for us, it was designed to consolidate mass enrollments." Dear Susan, Why then are we encouraged and sometimes sort of forced to enroll for these courses? Is it just to increase statistics? Regards, Firouz __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
RE: Ruhi - a data point from Houston
Why then are we encouraged and sometimes sort of forced to enroll for these courses? Is it just to increase statistics? Nope. So we can tutor them. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
