Re: hyperbole

2004-08-20 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Sandra,

At 05:43 AM 8/19/2004, you wrote:
Some more hyperbole for you...
Pygmies being eaten by rebels in Congo's ongoing war, UN reveals

The exaggeration I had in mind was not the cannibalism itself. It was the use of what 
would, from a logical standpoint, be referred to as hasty generalization (they) 
which seems somewhat hyperbolic to me.

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Re: hyperbole,

2004-08-20 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Mark,

Well Merriam-Webster (you know her, I'm sure... one of my
dearest friends!) says:

hyperbole: extravagant exaggeration (as mile-high ice-cream
cones)

So my conclusion is that the hyperbole would be in the WHAT
[cannibalism] not the WHO [Africans].

In the quotes from SAQ, Abdu'l-Baha qualifies the WHO as
those who become(s) bestial;
under the rule of nature; then, but men, in the Sudan -
WHO -some men, WHERE? Sudan.  He is not saying everyone in
that particular place does this...  By naming the WHERE, He
grants the hearer with enough information to verify His
statement.

A man who has not had a spiritual education is a brute.
Now, this MAY be a slight generalization... I've known a few
men who were exposed to a spiritual education and were still
brutes.  The remainder of that quote could be a reference
back to the earlier more specific statement.

The SDC quote might be a little problematic, when one thinks
of our own efforts to uplift the social and economic needs in
3rd world countries.  It's back to purity of motive ... I
think.

Lovingly,  Sandra


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Re: hyperbole

2004-08-20 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Sacred cows make the best hamburger

Hasan wrote:  This could be a hyperbole for people who eat
meat. 

You wrote:  Even more so for vegetarians. ;-) 

Hi Mark,
Wouldn't that be satire -coming from a vegetarian?

Merriam says:

satire:
1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to
ridicule or scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and
discredit vice or folly

Lovingly,  Sandra


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Re: hyperbole,

2004-08-20 Thread Susan Maneck
  Dear Khazeh,

  I wonder if you might talk to us a bit about the terminologies used in SDC
and some of its connotations. I'm thinking of the passages which Abdu'l-Baha
translates as savages, brute, etc.?

  warmest, Susan


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Re: hyperbole,

2004-08-20 Thread Mark A. Foster
Hi, Sandra,

At 03:06 AM 8/20/2004, you wrote:
So my conclusion is that the hyperbole would be in the WHAT [cannibalism] not the 
WHO [Africans]. 

What I suggested is that the hyperbole was the sweeping generalization made about the 
Sudanese.

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Re: hyperbole

2004-08-20 Thread Mark A. Foster
Sandra,

At 04:53 AM 8/20/2004, you wrote:
Wouldn't that be satire -coming from a vegetarian? 

I agree it is also satire. However, I think it is also hyperbolic. The idea of not 
eating meat is exaggerated by pointing to the idea of sacred cows.

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Re: hyperbole

2004-08-19 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Mark,

Some more hyperbole for you...

Pygmies being eaten by rebels in Congo's ongoing war, UN
reveals

The Scotsman - January 9, 2003

http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=25452003

still... Lovingly,  Sandra


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