Re: can bahá'ís do a film like this?

2013-05-13 Thread Don Calkins
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342. Dramatizing Historic Episodes of the Faith
As to your question concerning the advisability of dramatizing Baha'i historic 
episodes: The Guardian would certainly approve, and even encourage that the 
friends should engage in such literary pursuits which, no doubt, can be of an 
immense teaching value. What he wishes the believers to avoid is to dramatize 
the Personages of the Bab, Baha'u'llah and 'Abdu'l-Baha, that is to say to 
treat Them as dramatic figures, as characters appearing on the stage. This, as 
already pointed out, he feels would be quite disrespectful. The mere fact that 
They appear on the scene constitutes an act of discourtesy which can in no way 
be reconciled with Their highly exalted station. Their message, or actual 
Words, should be preferably reported and conveyed by Their disciples appearing 
on the stage.
(From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, 
July 25, 1936)

343. If Light Suggests Personification of the Manifestation, It Should Not Be 
Used
The use of light, either of great intensity or in different colours, needs 
your careful consideration. If the use of light in any way at all suggests a 
personification of the Manifestation of God it should not be used, but if it 
can be done without in any way giving the impression that the Prophet is being 
represented or personified then there is no objection to its use.
(From a letter written on behalf of the Universal House of Justice to an 
individual believer, August 12, 1975)

344. Prohibition on Representing Manifestations of God in Paintings or Drawings 
Applies to All Manifestations
The prohibition on representing the Manifestation of God in paintings and 
drawings or in dramatic presentations applies to all the Manifestations of God. 
There are, of course, great and wonderful works of art of past Dispensations, 
many of which portrayed the Manifestations of God in a spirit of reverence and 
love. In this [100] Dispensation however the greater maturity of mankind and 
the greater awareness of the relationship between the Supreme Manifestation and 
His servants enable us to realize the impossibility of representing, in any 
human form, whether pictorially, in sculpture or in dramatic representation, 
the Person of God's Manifestations. In stating the Baha'i prohibition, the 
beloved Guardian pointed out this impossibility.
(From a letter written on behalf of the Universal House of Justice to an 
individual believer, March 9, 1977)

345. Need for Skill to Produce an Effective Film about History of the Faith
As you are no doubt aware, it is not permissible to portray the Manifestations 
of God in dramatic works and it can be understood that great skill will be 
needed to produce an effective film about the history of the Faith in which 
neither the Bab nor Baha'u'llah could actually appear. Because of the 
overwhelming significance of the Baha'i message and the Baha'i Revelation, any 
such film produced under the aegis of the Baha'i community would have to be of 
the very highest quality in all respects.
(From a letter written on behalf of the Universal House of Justice to a 
National Spiritual Assembly, September 24, 1978)

All above fm Lights of Guidance.

Don C

On May 12, 2013, at 9:02 40PM, Hasan Elías wrote:

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 Hi all,
 
 I know that we can't represent the Central Figures in any film or theatre 
 work. But if someday we want to make a film, could be like this (not showing 
 the face)?
 
 Al-Nebras (The Lantern)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ParUemvKY#t=5m0s
 
 Thanks
 
 Hasan



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Re: can bahá'ís do a film like this?

2013-05-13 Thread Susan Maneck
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I suspect we might do what Muslims did in the move *The Message* back
in the 70's.

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com wrote:
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 Hi all,

 I know that we can't represent the Central Figures in any film or theatre
 work. But if someday we want to make a film, could be like this (not showing
 the face)?

 Al-Nebras (The Lantern)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ParUemvKY#t=5m0s

 Thanks

 Hasan

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Re: can bahá'ís do a film like this?

2013-05-13 Thread Hasan Elías
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Hi Susan,

Are you talking about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxCU6A9yNI



Thanks,

Hasan


 De: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com
Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu 
Enviado: Lunes, 13 de mayo, 2013 9:01 A.M.
Asunto: Re: can bahá'ís do a film like this?
 

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I suspect we might do what Muslims did in the move *The Message* back
in the 70's.

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com wrote:
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 Hi all,

 I know that we can't represent the Central Figures in any film or theatre
 work. But if someday we want to make a film, could be like this (not showing
 the face)?

 Al-Nebras (The Lantern)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ParUemvKY#t=5m0s

 Thanks

 Hasan

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Re: can bahá'ís do a film like this?

2013-05-13 Thread Susan Maneck
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Yep, that's it.

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 Hi Susan,

 Are you talking about this:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxCU6A9yNI


 Thanks,

 Hasan
 
 De: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com

 Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
 Enviado: Lunes, 13 de mayo, 2013 9:01 A.M.
 Asunto: Re: can bahá'ís do a film like this?

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 I suspect we might do what Muslims did in the move *The Message* back
 in the 70's.

 On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com wrote:
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 Hi all,

 I know that we can't represent the Central Figures in any film or theatre
 work. But if someday we want to make a film, could be like this (not
 showing
 the face)?

 Al-Nebras (The Lantern)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ParUemvKY#t=5m0s

 Thanks

 Hasan

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can bahá'ís do a film like this?

2013-05-12 Thread Hasan Elías
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Hi all,

I know that we can't represent the Central Figures in any film or theatre work. 
But if someday we want to make a film, could be like this (not showing the 
face)?

Al-Nebras (The Lantern)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ParUemvKY#t=5m0s

Thanks

Hasan
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Re: can bahá'ís do a film like this?

2013-05-12 Thread Hasan Elías
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Please go to minute 5 to see what I am talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ParUemvKY#t=05m00s




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Enviado: Domingo, 12 de mayo, 2013 10:02 P.M.
Asunto: can bahá'ís do a film like this?
 


 
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Hi all,

I know that we can't represent the Central Figures in any film or theatre work. 
But if someday we want to make a film, could be like this (not showing the 
face)?

Al-Nebras (The Lantern)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ParUemvKY#t=5m0s

Thanks

Hasan
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