Re: SCSI2SD & Amiga's

2020-07-07 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk 
What version of the SCSD2SD V5 do you have?  The V5.1 was reworked to 
boot faster (so claims the site here 
 
) and the V6 boots even faster I believe.


No idea, I will look someday when I pull it back out :-)

Was working on an IMSAI system currently.. then going to re-battery NeXT.

- Ethan

Re: SCSI2SD & Amiga's

2020-07-07 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk 

On 7/7/2020 2:57 PM, Zane Healy wrote:

On Jul 7, 2020, at 12:24 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk 
 wrote:


On 7/7/2020 1:02 PM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:

I run a SCSI2SD on my A2500 with whatever SCSI card it has by default. The only 
issue that I have is the SCSI2SD boots slower than the Amiga, so when I power 
on the Amiga I have to wait a few seconds then do the A+A+Control reboot three 
finger salute (or whatever it is.) Before it's ready the Amiga just sits at a 
white screen forever, but after a reboot the SCSI2SD is ready and it boots fine.


What version of the SCSD2SD V5 do you have?  The V5.1 was reworked to boot faster (so 
claims the site here 

 ) and the V6 boots even faster I believe.


I was wondering about this myself.


It would be nice if the SCSI2SD was mounted on a expansion cover plate though, 
with the LEDs visible and the SD card accessible externally.


That's how I them mounted in my MicroVAX 3100 and AlphaServer DS10.  On the Alphaserver I bought 
the 3.5" bracket and replaced the floppy disk with it.  On the MicroVAX I used the same 
3.5" bracket and mounted it in a 5.25" to 3.5" bracket with a homemade baseplate.

SCSI2SD mounting bracket: 



Is Inertial Computing a good place to buy from?  I was looking at their 
website.  It looks like the latest v6 might be the way to go for Amiga, VAX, 
and Alpha.  With v5.1 making more sense for my PDP-11/73, due to cost, it’s not 
like I’m going to get 10MB/sec on a Q-Bus backplane. :-)

Zane




They are.  I bought from them just a month and a half ago - the replacement for the 
"Drilled" board plus another for my PDP-11/xx (53/73/83 depending on which CPU 
board I feel like using) and it was delivered in 3 days despite shipping from CA to TX in 
these COVID limited days.

I haven't tested but you're probably right in that a V5.1 is probably good for 
a PDP QBUS SCSI card.

--
John H. Reinhardt

Re: SCSI2SD & Amiga's (was: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSC...)

2020-07-07 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk 



> On Jul 7, 2020, at 11:02 AM, Ethan O'Toole  wrote:

> Extra FRIGGIN awesome is I can pull the SD card out, shove it in a Win10 
> laptop and boot the same OS on WinUAE... copy stuff on, pull SD card out 
> stuff it back in the physical system and go.

I’ll need to read up on doing this with FS-UAE, as I have to start from scratch 
with my Amiga 3000, since I’ve obviously lost everything.  I use a Mac, so 
WinUAE isn’t an option.  

I also have a pair of IDE-to-CF adapters that I need to install in my Amiga 600 
and Amiga 1200.

Zane

Re: SCSI2SD & Amiga's

2020-07-07 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk 
On Jul 7, 2020, at 12:24 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk 
 wrote:
> 
> On 7/7/2020 1:02 PM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
>> I run a SCSI2SD on my A2500 with whatever SCSI card it has by default. The 
>> only issue that I have is the SCSI2SD boots slower than the Amiga, so when I 
>> power on the Amiga I have to wait a few seconds then do the A+A+Control 
>> reboot three finger salute (or whatever it is.) Before it's ready the Amiga 
>> just sits at a white screen forever, but after a reboot the SCSI2SD is ready 
>> and it boots fine.
>> 
> What version of the SCSD2SD V5 do you have?  The V5.1 was reworked to boot 
> faster (so claims the site here 
> 
>  ) and the V6 boots even faster I believe.

I was wondering about this myself.

>> It would be nice if the SCSI2SD was mounted on a expansion cover plate 
>> though, with the LEDs visible and the SD card accessible externally.
>> 
> That's how I them mounted in my MicroVAX 3100 and AlphaServer DS10.  On the 
> Alphaserver I bought the 3.5" bracket and replaced the floppy disk with it.  
> On the MicroVAX I used the same 3.5" bracket and mounted it in a 5.25" to 
> 3.5" bracket with a homemade baseplate.
> 
> SCSI2SD mounting bracket: 
> 

Is Inertial Computing a good place to buy from?  I was looking at their 
website.  It looks like the latest v6 might be the way to go for Amiga, VAX, 
and Alpha.  With v5.1 making more sense for my PDP-11/73, due to cost, it’s not 
like I’m going to get 10MB/sec on a Q-Bus backplane. :-)

Zane

Re: SCSI2SD & Amiga's

2020-07-07 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk 

On 7/7/2020 2:24 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote:

On 7/7/2020 1:02 PM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:

Am I correct that a v5.1 SCSI2SD should work just fine?  Anything I need to be 
aware of?


I run a SCSI2SD on my A2500 with whatever SCSI card it has by default. The only 
issue that I have is the SCSI2SD boots slower than the Amiga, so when I power 
on the Amiga I have to wait a few seconds then do the A+A+Control reboot three 
finger salute (or whatever it is.) Before it's ready the Amiga just sits at a 
white screen forever, but after a reboot the SCSI2SD is ready and it boots fine.


What version of the SCSD2SD V5 do you have?  The V5.1 was reworked to boot faster (so 
claims the site here 

 ) and the V6 boots even faster I believe.

Extra FRIGGIN awesome is I can pull the SD card out, shove it in a Win10 laptop 
and boot the same OS on WinUAE... copy stuff on, pull SD card out stuff it back 
in the physical system and go.

It would be nice if the SCSI2SD was mounted on a expansion cover plate though, 
with the LEDs visible and the SD card accessible externally.



That's how I them mounted in my MicroVAX 3100 and AlphaServer DS10.  On the Alphaserver I bought 
the 3.5" bracket and replaced the floppy disk with it.  On the MicroVAX I used the same 
3.5" bracket and mounted it in a 5.25" to 3.5" bracket with a homemade baseplate.


SCSI2SD mounting bracket: 


StarTech 3.5" to 5.35" mount 




 -- : Ethan O'Toole





Oh, I drilled a hole (1/4") through the SCSI2SD mounting bracket and mounted a 
LED wired to the holes on the PC board. Pro tip: Remove the SCSI2SD card from the 
bracket before drilling so that when the drill breaks though it doesn't zip in and 
chew off a couple of the SMD resistors and capacitors... Don't ask me how I know. :-P

--
John H. Reinhardt

Re: SCSI2SD & Amiga's

2020-07-07 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk 

On 7/7/2020 1:02 PM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:

Am I correct that a v5.1 SCSI2SD should work just fine?  Anything I need to be 
aware of?


I run a SCSI2SD on my A2500 with whatever SCSI card it has by default. The only 
issue that I have is the SCSI2SD boots slower than the Amiga, so when I power 
on the Amiga I have to wait a few seconds then do the A+A+Control reboot three 
finger salute (or whatever it is.) Before it's ready the Amiga just sits at a 
white screen forever, but after a reboot the SCSI2SD is ready and it boots fine.


What version of the SCSD2SD V5 do you have?  The V5.1 was reworked to boot faster (so 
claims the site here 

 ) and the V6 boots even faster I believe.

Extra FRIGGIN awesome is I can pull the SD card out, shove it in a Win10 laptop 
and boot the same OS on WinUAE... copy stuff on, pull SD card out stuff it back 
in the physical system and go.

It would be nice if the SCSI2SD was mounted on a expansion cover plate though, 
with the LEDs visible and the SD card accessible externally.



That's how I them mounted in my MicroVAX 3100 and AlphaServer DS10.  On the Alphaserver I bought 
the 3.5" bracket and replaced the floppy disk with it.  On the MicroVAX I used the same 
3.5" bracket and mounted it in a 5.25" to 3.5" bracket with a homemade baseplate.


SCSI2SD mounting bracket: 


StarTech 3.5" to 5.35" mount 




 -- : Ethan O'Toole




--
John H. Reinhardt

Re: SCSI2SD & Amiga's (was: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSC...)

2020-07-07 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk 
On 2020-07-07 13:46, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

> Am I correct that a v5.1 SCSI2SD should work just fine?  Anything I need to 
> be aware of?
> 
> I’ve been interested in these for ages, in part as a way to have quieter 
> systems, but have never purchased one.

Not completely to the subject, but I got some of those, and they work
nicely on my VAXStation 4000/90, where most other designs failed.

Watch for Asia copies of the version 5, go for the "original" 6 from the
guy who made it.

Just a little trick I use a lot:

take a nice big/fast SD_CARD, and partiton it with the first partition
of 1GByte, the others to your liking.

So you can simply dd your install media on a pc to the sd-card,
and install on the real machine from device id0 ...

Cheers

Re: SCSI2SD & Amiga's (was: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSC...)

2020-07-07 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk 
Am I correct that a v5.1 SCSI2SD should work just fine?  Anything I need 
to be aware of?


I run a SCSI2SD on my A2500 with whatever SCSI card it has by default. The 
only issue that I have is the SCSI2SD boots slower than the Amiga, so when 
I power on the Amiga I have to wait a few seconds then do the A+A+Control 
reboot three finger salute (or whatever it is.) Before it's ready the 
Amiga just sits at a white screen forever, but after a reboot the SCSI2SD 
is ready and it boots fine.


Extra FRIGGIN awesome is I can pull the SD card out, shove it in a Win10 
laptop and boot the same OS on WinUAE... copy stuff on, pull SD card out 
stuff it back in the physical system and go.


It would be nice if the SCSI2SD was mounted on a expansion cover plate 
though, with the LEDs visible and the SD card accessible externally.




 -- : 
Ethan O'Toole