Re: [c-nsp] EVC/EFP - Longest match VLAN stack length

2013-12-12 Thread Mattias Gyllenvarg
Hi

I have not verified but the more specific one should be before the general
rule.
So you should switch them around.

interface TenGigabitEthernet0/1
 service instance 10 ethernet
  encapsulation dot1q 10 second-dot1q 555
  rewrite ingress tag pop 1 symmetric
  bridge-domain 10555

 service instance 20 ethernet
  encapsulation dot1q 10 second-dot1q any
  rewrite ingress tag pop 1 symmetric
  bridge-domain 1

 service instance 30 ethernet
  encapsulation dot1q 10
  rewrite ingress tag pop 1 symmetric
  bridge-domain 10

In this case, though not tested, a packet tagged 10+555 would be sent too
bd10555 and 10+any to bd1 and then 10+non to bd10.

//Mattias Gyllenvarg
Obduro Network AB



On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Arash Alizadeh aras...@hotmail.se wrote:

 Hi,

 I wonder if anyone knows if you in two seperate EFP's could match the same
 outermost tag where one matches a single-tagged frame and the other one
 matches it when it's stacked .

 I.e:

 interface TenGigabitEthernet0/1
  service instance 1 ethernet
   encapsulation dot1q 10
   rewrite ingress tag pop 1 symmetric
   bridge-domain 10
  !
  service instance 2 ethernet
   encapsulation dot1q 10 second-dot1q any
   rewrite ingress tag pop 1 symmetric
   bridge-domain 20
 !

 Unfortunately I'm not able to try this myself and I havn't found anything
 on the web covering this scenario.

 Thanks in advance.

 Arash

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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
 There's drawbacks to customer prefixes in BGP - and one of them is 
 convergence is slower plus more potential for loops while
reconverging...
And here I would object that with PIC-Core and PIC-Edge BGP is as fast as
OSPF/ISIS doing IP FRR. 


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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
 We are looking at deploying dedicated route reflectors on 1U Dell or HP 
 servers against inside ESXi or Qemu/KVM hypervisors, mostly to benefit 
 from the super quick multi- core CPU's and tons of fast RAM that you just
 don't get in routers.

 I'll report back how this goes, in a few months, as it will be relatively
large scale.

 Mark.

Hi Mark,
Do you plan on running virtual XR, XE or JUNOS or even some customized BGP
daemon on those? 
I'm very interested on how it will work out for you. 
I'm all pro for virtualizing BGP control plane, makes so much sense. 

adam

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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:30:06 AM Adam Vitkovsky 
wrote:

 And here I would object that with PIC-Core and PIC-Edge
 BGP is as fast as OSPF/ISIS doing IP FRR.

I have seen extraordinary BGP performance in modern code in 
IOS and Junos, particularly in NG-MVPN scenarios where BGP 
is handling PIM messages.

BGP PIC, Next Hop Addressing Tracking and Fast Fallover have 
all improved BGP performance to the point where it doesn't 
matter that much.

Perhaps, some day, when I'm really lazy, I'll work on some 
empirical data for various scenarios.

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:42:01 AM Adam Vitkovsky 
wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 Do you plan on running virtual XR, XE or JUNOS or even
 some customized BGP daemon on those?
 I'm very interested on how it will work out for you.
 I'm all pro for virtualizing BGP control plane, makes so
 much sense.

CSR1000v on ESXi for IOS XE, or vRR on Qemu/KVM for Junos.

I'll let you know how we go; but yes, all that RAM and CPU 
that will be available in a 1U server vs. a (decent) router 
like the ASR1001 or Juniper RE-1800X4 is too hard to resist.

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
 I'll let you know how we go; but yes, all that RAM and CPU that will be 
 available in a 1U server vs. a (decent) router like the ASR1001 or Juniper

 RE-1800X4 is too hard to resist. 

Or even imagine a pool of these geographically distributed with multiple
links to core at each site. 
VM-overlay on the pool and run RRs on top of that and you'll end up with RRs
infrastructure that is never down and will scale endlessly. 

adam

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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:04:20AM +0100, Adam Vitkovsky wrote:
  I'll let you know how we go; but yes, all that RAM and CPU that will be 
  available in a 1U server vs. a (decent) router like the ASR1001 or Juniper
 
  RE-1800X4 is too hard to resist. 
 
 Or even imagine a pool of these geographically distributed with multiple
 links to core at each site. 
 VM-overlay on the pool and run RRs on top of that and you'll end up with RRs
 infrastructure that is never down and will scale endlessly. 

My imagination works a bit differently from yours, it seems.  

My imagination sees outage in the VM management infrastructure which leads 
to all RRs being down at the same time, and no network left to bring them 
back... *shiver*

(OTOH using the technologies Mark mentioned, having a VM layer makes sense
- if the routing engine is not software run on top of a general purpose
OS but a routing engine VM running on top of a hypervisor...  but then
more along the lines of what Nick proposed, with a dedicated metal running
the hypervisor, and no fancy VM management-move-around-automatism engine
playing tricks in the background)

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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Phil Mayers

On 12/12/13 09:08, Gert Doering wrote:


My imagination sees outage in the VM management infrastructure which leads
to all RRs being down at the same time, and no network left to bring them
back... *shiver*


Agreed - anyone using the helpful automagic stuff like vCentre for 
something like an RR is crazy. We've had issues with it exploding and 
the VMs being unmanageable.


OTOH a standalone hypervisor with no external dependencies can be pretty 
much bulletproof; our DNS and DHCP servers run on KVM boxes, and they're 
rock solid.


One advantage is reboot times - modern servers take an age to POST, but 
a KVM guest can reboot in under 30 seconds.

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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:04:20 AM Adam Vitkovsky 
wrote:

 Or even imagine a pool of these geographically
 distributed with multiple links to core at each site.
 VM-overlay on the pool and run RRs on top of that and
 you'll end up with RRs infrastructure that is never down
 and will scale endlessly.

My design is similar to what I'd do with a normal router, 
i.e., 2x route reflectors per PoP, local iBGP clients in 
each PoP to each router reflector, and a full iBGP mesh 
between route reflectors across the various PoP's.

All I'm getting from doing this on servers and not routers 
is the CPU and RAM advantage.

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:08:20 AM Gert Doering 
wrote:

 (OTOH using the technologies Mark mentioned, having a VM
 layer makes sense - if the routing engine is not
 software run on top of a general purpose OS but a
 routing engine VM running on top of a hypervisor... 
 but then more along the lines of what Nick proposed,
 with a dedicated metal running the hypervisor, and no
 fancy VM management-move-around-automatism engine
 playing tricks in the background)

Yes; I wished you could boot IOS(X*) or Junos on bare metal, 
given they all support x86_64 hardware, but the vendors have 
opted to keep tight control of things by fitting the OS 
inside a VM.

So the leanest and most manageable deployment you can have 
with this is:

- Metal
- Hypervisor
- Router OS

CSR1000v is supported on ESXi only today, and to load it up, 
you require vSphere client. I'd rather you didn't, but it's 
thin enough and manageable, so as long as you keep it 
simple, you should be stable.

Junos will run on Qemu or KVM natively, so no external 
management required, although there are some you can use.

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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 12/12/2013 09:44, Mark Tinka wrote:
 All I'm getting from doing this on servers and not routers 
 is the CPU and RAM advantage.

+ the possibility of genuine oob if you have a separate oob infrastructure.

Nick

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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:50:38 AM Nick Hilliard 
wrote:

 + the possibility of genuine oob if you have a separate
 oob infrastructure.

That too, yes.

Three links into each server - 2x links into the core 
backbone which is what the router OS will see for IS-IS + 
iBGP, and 1x Ethernet link mapped to the router OS software 
console port which is connected to a network that handles 
the OoB portion.

You can also add more OoB access by hooking up to the 
server's iLO port to the same or another OoB network.

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 12/12/2013 09:31, Phil Mayers wrote:
 Agreed - anyone using the helpful automagic stuff like vCentre for
 something like an RR is crazy. We've had issues with it exploding and the
 VMs being unmanageable.

Agreed. For network-critical stuff, I wouldn't touch that management crap
with a bargepole.  When it fails (not if), the hilarity level is off the
scale.  Layering an underlying infrastructure on top of this would be a
recipe for the sort of failure that would cause stupid levels of downtime,
recoverable only by onsite high level engineering people.

Nick

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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
 My imagination sees outage in the VM management infrastructure which 
 leads to all RRs being down at the same time, and no network left to 
 bring them back... *shiver*

 Agreed - anyone using the helpful automagic stuff like vCentre for 
 something like an RR is crazy. We've had issues with it exploding and the 
 VMs being unmanageable.

I rather meant some proven solution like e.g. Amazon uses to provide cloud
computing services. 
Something that is steady. And you can always have two separate clouds so in
case one dies for some reason you'll still remain with one RR per POP. 

adam


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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 12/12/2013 10:03, Adam Vitkovsky wrote:
 I rather meant some proven solution like e.g. Amazon uses to provide cloud
 computing services. 

No, no and more no.  Total layering violation and abandonment of KISS
principal.  Not clever.

Nick

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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:03:04AM +0100, Adam Vitkovsky wrote:
 I rather meant some proven solution like e.g. Amazon uses to provide cloud
 computing services. 

Like, proven until it falls over?  Not like bits and pieces of the Amazon
(or Azure) cloud hasn't fallen apart with cascading failures...

But there's a famous quote here - I recommend this to all my competitors.

Network stability is overvalued anyway :-)

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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Andrew Yourtchenko



On Thu, 12 Dec 2013, Mark Tinka wrote:


CSR1000v is supported on ESXi only today, and to load it up,
you require vSphere client. I'd rather you didn't, but it's


FWIW - not anymore: 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/csr1000/software/configuration/csroverview.html#wp1081607


I happily run a pair of them in my home lab in kvm on Mac Mini running 
Ubuntu.


The install was as simple as creating the appropriately sized HDD disk 
image and booting the VM off the ISO. With KVM, you get the usual option 
of VNC console into it.


Warning: not a speed daemon. By far. But, it's also not been long since it 
was released, so I am hoping this is not the final performance point.


--a

p.s. I also ran the latest version on my laptop in Fusion with no apparent 
problem, but I did not test much besides some MAP-T stuff - I had been 
doing internet in a box mode of development with everything hosted on my 
laptop: client, cpe, internet, and csr1kv being all in different VMs 
crossconnected internally withing Fusion. So don't take that toying as a 
supported config for business-critical stuff.

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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:06:54 PM Nick Hilliard 
wrote:

 No, no and more no.  Total layering violation and
 abandonment of KISS principal.  Not clever.

+1.

Don't know why anyone would run their critical 
infrastructure on a remote cloud :-).

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] C6500 IPv6 redistribute with route-map?

2013-12-12 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote:

 On Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:06:54 PM Nick Hilliard
 wrote:

  No, no and more no.  Total layering violation and
  abandonment of KISS principal.  Not clever.

 +1.

 Don't know why anyone would run their critical
 infrastructure on a remote cloud :-).


 We are waiting as fast as we can for the cloud to come back up :)
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Re: [c-nsp] N7k CoPP not MPLS-aware?

2013-12-12 Thread Phil Mayers

On 15/11/13 12:02, Saku Ytti wrote:

On (2013-11-15 09:48 +), Phil Mayers wrote:


Has anyone else seen this? Our N7k CoPP policy seems to be letting
packets through which are arriving MPLS-labelled. In particular,
this means it's completely ineffective at protecting the CPU in an
L3VPN, since all packets inside the VPN arrive labelled.


Alas this is the rule, 7600 having working CoPP is the exception.

In 2006-03-16 I opened TAC case 603198067 complaining how 'explicit-null'
breaks CoPP in GSR, VXR, NSE100, 5400, result was that it was expected
behaviour.


Sadly you are correct. CSCty29692 is the relevant bug ID, and the 
traffic is hitting the MPLS L2 limiter in my testing.


Oh well.
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[c-nsp] ASR9K RSPAN via bundle-ether

2013-12-12 Thread Robert Williams
Hi,

Looking for a quick pointer here, I need to get a remote SPAN session active 
from one of our ASR9K units across a few Cat6K chassis and into an analyser. We 
use RSPAN across all the 6Ks without any issues, and from my understanding the 
ASR needs to egress the captured packets out of a sub-interface and tag them 
with the RSPAN vlan which the 6K is expecting. Then the 6K will flood the 
packets in the RSPAN vlan and get them to our analyser like normal. Now on the 
assumption that is correct so far, I’ll move on to the actual issue.

The only link between this particular ASR and the Cat6k is via a 4x10GB 
bundle-ether, which has a number of sub-interfaces on it. The spanning feature 
on the ASR does not support egress mirroring to a destination port which is a 
bundle-ether, which is handy – so, the question is, what if I were to target 
the egress towards one of the physical 10GB member ports within the bundle, as 
a sub-interface of the physical port? From the Cat6k perspective it won’t care 
as the packets are arriving it will just forward them on the RSPAN vlan. So the 
only (big) issue is whether or not the ASR will be happy to have one port 
within the bundle setup to egress mirrored packets?

Oh, and I'm familiar with the mirror-to-pseudowire method, but in this scenario 
it isn't a particularly nice option for reasons not covered above.

So - any thoughts or suggestions are most welcome - Cheers!


Robert Williams
Custodian Data Centre
Email: rob...@custodiandc.com
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Re: [c-nsp] 4500X weird issue...

2013-12-12 Thread Jeff Kell
Follow-up to the follow-up :)  Long story short...

Switch essentially had no flash and dir, etc gave errors.  TAC had us
boot from tftp image via ROMMON.  Booted up, found config, write mem
worked, founds it's VSS partner, and dropped to standby.  Rebooted the
other switch, this one became primary, and all is well.

Still don't understand why even ROMMON couldn't find a flash, yet tftp
booting IOS seemed to make everything well again.  But not looking a
gift horse in the mouth, just wondering in case this shows up again.  I
really don't like the restart breaking things scenario :)

Jeff

On 12/10/2013 8:45 PM, Jeff Kell wrote:
 Follow-up...  the secondary booted up OK.  We're looking at a possible
 RMA on the failing one (TAC case open) rather than cracking the case on
 a virgin switch to mess with flash :).

 Jeff

 On 12/6/2013 11:25 PM, Jeff Kell wrote:
 We received our first pair of 4500X switches, and proceeded to try to
 prepare them for deployment.  They came up OK on console access, we got
 a very basic configuration setup, linked them together, and did an
 initial VSS pairing.

 With that successful, we put in a management IP address for the
 management port, saved everything, and proceeded to move them to the
 server room.

 Upon power-up at the new location, they won't boot...

  
  *  *
  * Rom Monitor NVRAM configuration is being initialized to  *
  * default values. This may be because it was never initialized.*
  *  *
  
 Writing to Primary Region failed
 Writing to Backup Region failed



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[c-nsp] asa, internal web filter

2013-12-12 Thread Dan Letkeman
Hello,



We currently have our gateway / web filter routing setup in this manor:



lan --- 2921 ---asa(firewall) ---internet

  |

   --  web filter



So the traffic destined to the internet that is not supposed to be filtered
goes right through the router to the asa.  The traffic that is destined to
be filtered gets policy routed to the web filter which then gets routed
back to the 2921 and out to the asa.  This is a bad design, I will admit
that.



What I want to do is this:



lan - 2921 --- asa(firewall) --- internet

  ||

  --- web filter ---





With this change the traffic will not have to go back to the router and
then back out to the asa.  This will cut the traffic going through the
router in half, which will result in lower cpu usage.



My question about changing this is as follows.



The asa has a route to the lan networks that are getting filtered.  Lets
say they are 172.16.0.0/16.  There is an eigrp relationship between the
router and asa.


If I use a route-map to policy route certain networks to the web filter
connected in the new way, will the return traffic go back through the web
filter or will it go back directly to the router?  I don't have a spare ASA
to test this with.


One other thing to note is the web filter is a proxy so the http and https
traffic changes the source ip after its passed through.  The rest of the
traffic is untouched.




Thanks,

Dan.
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Re: [c-nsp] 4500X weird issue...

2013-12-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, December 13, 2013 01:05:20 AM Jeff Kell wrote:

 Still don't understand why even ROMMON couldn't find a
 flash, yet tftp booting IOS seemed to make everything
 well again.  But not looking a gift horse in the mouth,
 just wondering in case this shows up again.  I really
 don't like the restart breaking things scenario :)

TFTP would work because it's like assuming your flash is the 
network.

Saving to NVRAM will still work because the NVRAM storage is 
different from flash (well, typically).

So what is the situation now? Can you reboot from flash, or 
do you really have no flash?

Mark.


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[c-nsp] Nexus 5k Switch Archive configuration file

2013-12-12 Thread Samol
Hi All,

How can we accomplish below command in Cisco Nexus switch ? Basically I
want to send the configuration file to ftp server once I save the config.
Also trying to search on Cisco link, haven't found anything related yet.
Much appreciate if you could give the link or config.


   -

 system {
 archival {
   configuration {
   transfer-on-commit;
   archive-sites {
   ftp://username:password@172.30.36.59;;
   }
   }
 }


Thanks.
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