Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-23 Thread ezuall

Hi all,

I've tried most of the distributions and patches that are echo free and
nothing has worked sofar except when I configure the volume so low that you
can hardly hear a thing.

One thing that makes troubleshooting this issue so tricky is the fact that
the echo is experienced by the person on the other side of the phone and
there is no way to verify whether there is an echo from the Freerunner
itself.

Would it be possible and what would be the steps involved in creating an
application to check whether the echo problem is present?  Since the echo is
caused by the audio path inside the Neo there has to be some way to verify
and display the magnitude of the echo locally.

Regards
Johan
-- 
View this message in context: 
http://n2.nabble.com/Is-there-an-echo-free-distro--tp2162879p2202157.html
Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-23 Thread Petr Vanek
I've tried most of the distributions and patches that are echo free
and nothing has worked sofar except when I configure the volume so low
that you can hardly hear a thing.

i haven't read the whole thread so excuse me if anyone has mentioned
this already...

i have always suffered the same issue and nothing worked out of box for
me. on Jan19th was created new image of shr-unstable, download from here
[1]. i have tested it several times and it is echo free for me
(respectively for the other side of my phone conversation :)

let us know your results

--
Petr Vaněk

[1] http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/



___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-23 Thread ezuall

Thanks for that, I will give that new SHR distro a try this weekend.
-- 
View this message in context: 
http://n2.nabble.com/Is-there-an-echo-free-distro--tp2162879p2202278.html
Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-23 Thread Jan Henkins

On Fri, January 23, 2009 02:58, William Kenworthy wrote:
 Reiserfs3 however just rocks!

Yes, it's killer!

Sorry, that was a troll, my apologies (could not resist it).

-- 
Regards,
Jan Henkins


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-23 Thread arne anka
 ext2/3 is not really suited to storing such a large number of small
 files.

afaik ext3 can be configured to use small files.


   (I don't understand why ext2/3 is used at all these days, as it has  
 been obsolete for years.

that's nonsense.

 Except for one bug 8 years ago[1], ReiserFS has worked flawlessly for me  
 on my desktop systems.)

i use ext2/3 for over ten years now and never had any problems.

if you like reiser better, it's ok, but please don't tell such nonsense  
only to justify your likings.
it's purely a matter of personal preferences, nothing more -- and least of  
all extX is bad, reiser is good.


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-23 Thread Sean McNeil
arne anka wrote:
 ext2/3 is not really suited to storing such a large number of small
 files.
   

 afaik ext3 can be configured to use small files.


   
   (I don't understand why ext2/3 is used at all these days, as it has  
 been obsolete for years.
 

 that's nonsense.

   
 Except for one bug 8 years ago[1], ReiserFS has worked flawlessly for me  
 on my desktop systems.)
 

 i use ext2/3 for over ten years now and never had any problems.

 if you like reiser better, it's ok, but please don't tell such nonsense  
 only to justify your likings.
 it's purely a matter of personal preferences, nothing more -- and least of  
 all extX is bad, reiser is good.

There is also a lot of community support for ext[234] with noticeable 
active development. I'm not so certain what the condition of ReiserFS is 
these days, but I don't think there have been any enhancements or 
improvements to match ext4.


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: [Tango-GPS] Map bulk download?

2009-01-23 Thread arne anka
 I was wondering if anyone has a tar'd compilation of all the USA maps?

don't have the url handy, but osm has a list of links providing  
daily/weekly/monthly updated tar balls of diffrent areas and the world.
found it, see here:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm#Extracts

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-23 Thread William Kenworthy
its not nonsense - ext2/3 is vastly overrated - However, I am aware that
its very much dependent on your use case.  And in my use case, Ive been
bitten too many times.  

Never heard that ext3 is good for small files - the opposite in fact as
it doesnt do tail packing (so can waste huge amounts of space), and has
limited number of inodes available - which limit I ran into.  Ive since
reformatted with the maximum, but that is supposed top cause performance
problems though I have not measured how much its slowed the FR down.

I am worried about the future for Reiserfs, but apparently work was
continuing when I last checked.

BillK


On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 10:36 +0100, arne anka wrote:
  ext2/3 is not really suited to storing such a large number of small
  files.
 
 afaik ext3 can be configured to use small files.
 
 
(I don't understand why ext2/3 is used at all these days, as it has  
  been obsolete for years.
 
 that's nonsense.
 
  Except for one bug 8 years ago[1], ReiserFS has worked flawlessly for me  
  on my desktop systems.)
 
 i use ext2/3 for over ten years now and never had any problems.
 
 if you like reiser better, it's ok, but please don't tell such nonsense  
 only to justify your likings.
 it's purely a matter of personal preferences, nothing more -- and least of  
 all extX is bad, reiser is good.
 
 
 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
-- 
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Home in Perth!


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Paul

Wow. I must say that I am impressed.

Paul

-- 
The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you.
-Elmer Davis

http://www.nlpagan.net
Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Julien Cassignol
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Paul p...@nlpagan.net wrote:

 Wow. I must say that I am impressed.

Would you care to elaborate ?

-- 
Julien Cassignol
http://www.ainulindale.net

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Paul

 Wow. I must say that I am impressed.
 

 Would you care to elaborate 

It looks very complete, carries all the bits and things I would expect 
to run on the FR, and from what I have tried so far, it works too.
Have not had time to play a lot (I should be working... ehem...) but so 
far I like what I see.

Paul

-- 
The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you.
-Elmer Davis

http://www.nlpagan.net
Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


[OM2008-12] Default route under wifi always has the USB default route as well...

2009-01-23 Thread john dowd
I followed the instructions on the wiki for setting up the
interfaces file under /etc/network. On the wiki page they have the
following for the wireless interface:

# Wired or wireless interfaces
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
up route del default gw 192.168.0.200
up route del default gw 192.168.0.200

On the wiki page they mentioned to put the route delete line twice
since the first one did not seem to ever work. Well, putting it twice
never works either. Has anyone been able to successfully remove the
USB interface as the default route? I can do it once I've ssh'd to the
device with a simple command but I'm trying to automate this device as
much as possible since it's going to be used in demonstrations by
people who have no clue.

Cheers!!
-- 
John Dowd
email: jdowdster at gmail dot com

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
The Jewish State of Israel has no constitution, nor does it name its borders. 
Israel's hidden constitution is Judaism. Israel's undeclared borders range from 
the Nile to the Euphrates rivers. Israel's desired jurisdiction extends over 
the entire Earth.

It could not be more clear that the Jewish State follows a foreign policy which 
obeys Jewish Law as iterated in the Hebrew Bible, the Talmud, Maimonedes, the 
Cabalah, and the many commentaries and refinements of same. The Jews are 
genociding the native inhabitants of Palestine, just as their religion advises, 
and because their religion teaches them to do so. They treat non-Jews as if 
non-humans, just as their religion requires them to do. They make perpetual war 
on every nation on Earth, just as their genocidal Jewish God has instructed.

The Jews of Israel are simply being Jews. Jews are an existential threat to the 
human race.

Israel contains one third of the Jews of the World. It is not some aberration 
of the Jewish spirit, but the condensation and concentration of the perverse 
Jewish mentality, which malady also pervades the remaining two thirds of Jewry, 
who almost unanimously support the Jewish State, and who certainly do 
unanimously support the Jewish People and its consistent and constant crimes 
against the human race. Israel is Jewry and the danger of Israel is the danger 
of the Jewish People to all others, as the Jews have demonstrated each and 
every day of their existence.

The Jews, the entire Jewish People of 15 million, will not relent until they 
have wiped out all non-Jews in Greater Israel. They will not stop destroying 
all other cultures, nations, religions, ethnicities, races, competition, etc. 
until they are either stopped, or succeed in their ancient quest to destroy the 
human race.

What Israel is doing is not some reaction to outside forces, nor was the 
formation of Israel a response to the Holocaust. Israel is simply following the 
plan laid out in the Jews' religious texts. The Jews have openly planned to 
take Palestine and genocide the native population of Palestine for some 2,500 
years before the Holocaust. The Jews have openly complained that 
anti-Semitism is a threat that gives them the right to genocide the 
Palestinians, not merely since the advent of Nazism, but for some 2,500 years.

The Jewish religion is the Constitution of the Jewish State of Israel, and, to 
a greater or lesser extent, the constitution of the nature of every Jew alive. 
The borders of Israel are the range the Jew roams over the entire World. The 
perverse Jewish mentality is inbred by a Jew's exposure to his parents and to 
his community. Judaism passes in the spit and slobber of Jewish mother telling 
her Jewish child that he is a Jew, as much as Judaism passes in the poison 
and pain of a Talmudic tractate. The secular Jews did not suddenly come to life 
after the Enlightenment and the Jewish Reformation a body of vampires that 
appeared ex nihilo, in vacuo, mostly atheistical and undetached from formally 
practiced Judaism. Judaism is the Jew. It is a mindset that transcends and 
supercedes religion. It is a belief set, a way of life, a perception of one's 
self and one's relation to the World that makes a Jew, a Jew, and a danger to 
all of humanity.

In fact, the religious shell of Judaism is like the stretched and infected skin 
of a lycanthropic pustule. When you lance it to cure the infection, the virus 
only becomes more contagious and spills directly on the non-Jew.

The secular Jew is a deliberate product of the hyper-religious Jew, a monster 
created out of the hewed corpses of the fanatically religious Jew, a Golem 
which is conjured up to enter the World of the non-Jew and poison its blood, 
and boil its brain with a rabid lunacy that bites and spreads, until the 
infected community feeds on itself and fills the fields with rotting bloating 
bodies, where once human beings tilled the soil and tended to their families. 
The religious Jew created the secular Jew as an army of Esthers who seduce with 
open thighs, broad smiles, and a Siren call that lures in the non-Jew to cast 
his skull upon the jagged rocks and color the seas with his blood, sickened and 
blinded by the venereal disease of Judaism in secular form.

Israel is not a secular democracy. It is a religious mockery. It is a rabid bat 
flying to the ends of the Earth, to end the Earth. No one will be free nor safe 
until the disease is quarantined and dies out.

Source: 
http://www.ziopedia.org/articles/israel/how_can_israel_claim_to_be_a_%27democracy%27_when_it_has_no_constitution_nor_borders?/`



The problem with intellectually insecure whites

Kevin MacDonald

January 19, 2009

America will soon have a white minority. This is a much desired state of 
affairs for the hostile elites who hold political power and shape public 
opinion. But it certainly creates some management issues — at least in the long 
run. After all, it’s difficult 

Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread Lawrence Auster
The Jewish State of Israel has no constitution, nor does it name its borders. 
Israel's hidden constitution is Judaism. Israel's undeclared borders range from 
the Nile to the Euphrates rivers. Israel's desired jurisdiction extends over 
the entire Earth.

It could not be more clear that the Jewish State follows a foreign policy which 
obeys Jewish Law as iterated in the Hebrew Bible, the Talmud, Maimonedes, the 
Cabalah, and the many commentaries and refinements of same. The Jews are 
genociding the native inhabitants of Palestine, just as their religion advises, 
and because their religion teaches them to do so. They treat non-Jews as if 
non-humans, just as their religion requires them to do. They make perpetual war 
on every nation on Earth, just as their genocidal Jewish God has instructed.

The Jews of Israel are simply being Jews. Jews are an existential threat to the 
human race.

Israel contains one third of the Jews of the World. It is not some aberration 
of the Jewish spirit, but the condensation and concentration of the perverse 
Jewish mentality, which malady also pervades the remaining two thirds of Jewry, 
who almost unanimously support the Jewish State, and who certainly do 
unanimously support the Jewish People and its consistent and constant crimes 
against the human race. Israel is Jewry and the danger of Israel is the danger 
of the Jewish People to all others, as the Jews have demonstrated each and 
every day of their existence.

The Jews, the entire Jewish People of 15 million, will not relent until they 
have wiped out all non-Jews in Greater Israel. They will not stop destroying 
all other cultures, nations, religions, ethnicities, races, competition, etc. 
until they are either stopped, or succeed in their ancient quest to destroy the 
human race.

What Israel is doing is not some reaction to outside forces, nor was the 
formation of Israel a response to the Holocaust. Israel is simply following the 
plan laid out in the Jews' religious texts. The Jews have openly planned to 
take Palestine and genocide the native population of Palestine for some 2,500 
years before the Holocaust. The Jews have openly complained that 
anti-Semitism is a threat that gives them the right to genocide the 
Palestinians, not merely since the advent of Nazism, but for some 2,500 years.

The Jewish religion is the Constitution of the Jewish State of Israel, and, to 
a greater or lesser extent, the constitution of the nature of every Jew alive. 
The borders of Israel are the range the Jew roams over the entire World. The 
perverse Jewish mentality is inbred by a Jew's exposure to his parents and to 
his community. Judaism passes in the spit and slobber of Jewish mother telling 
her Jewish child that he is a Jew, as much as Judaism passes in the poison 
and pain of a Talmudic tractate. The secular Jews did not suddenly come to life 
after the Enlightenment and the Jewish Reformation a body of vampires that 
appeared ex nihilo, in vacuo, mostly atheistical and undetached from formally 
practiced Judaism. Judaism is the Jew. It is a mindset that transcends and 
supercedes religion. It is a belief set, a way of life, a perception of one's 
self and one's relation to the World that makes a Jew, a Jew, and a danger to 
all of humanity.

In fact, the religious shell of Judaism is like the stretched and infected skin 
of a lycanthropic pustule. When you lance it to cure the infection, the virus 
only becomes more contagious and spills directly on the non-Jew.

The secular Jew is a deliberate product of the hyper-religious Jew, a monster 
created out of the hewed corpses of the fanatically religious Jew, a Golem 
which is conjured up to enter the World of the non-Jew and poison its blood, 
and boil its brain with a rabid lunacy that bites and spreads, until the 
infected community feeds on itself and fills the fields with rotting bloating 
bodies, where once human beings tilled the soil and tended to their families. 
The religious Jew created the secular Jew as an army of Esthers who seduce with 
open thighs, broad smiles, and a Siren call that lures in the non-Jew to cast 
his skull upon the jagged rocks and color the seas with his blood, sickened and 
blinded by the venereal disease of Judaism in secular form.

Israel is not a secular democracy. It is a religious mockery. It is a rabid bat 
flying to the ends of the Earth, to end the Earth. No one will be free nor safe 
until the disease is quarantined and dies out.

Source: 
http://www.ziopedia.org/articles/israel/how_can_israel_claim_to_be_a_%27democracy%27_when_it_has_no_constitution_nor_borders?/`



The problem with intellectually insecure whites

Kevin MacDonald

January 19, 2009

America will soon have a white minority. This is a much desired state of 
affairs for the hostile elites who hold political power and shape public 
opinion. But it certainly creates some management issues — at least in the long 
run. After all, it’s difficult 

Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread john dowd
And you think that this is an appropriate forum because why?

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
mic...@openmoko.org wrote:
 The Jewish State of Israel has no constitution, nor does it name its borders. 
 Israel's hidden constitution is Judaism. Israel's undeclared borders range 
 from the Nile to the Euphrates rivers. Israel's desired jurisdiction extends 
 over the entire Earth.

 It could not be more clear that the Jewish State follows a foreign policy 
 which obeys Jewish Law as iterated in the Hebrew Bible, the Talmud, 
 Maimonedes, the Cabalah, and the many commentaries and refinements of same. 
 The Jews are genociding the native inhabitants of Palestine, just as their 
 religion advises, and because their religion teaches them to do so. They 
 treat non-Jews as if non-humans, just as their religion requires them to do. 
 They make perpetual war on every nation on Earth, just as their genocidal 
 Jewish God has instructed.

 The Jews of Israel are simply being Jews. Jews are an existential threat to 
 the human race.

 Israel contains one third of the Jews of the World. It is not some aberration 
 of the Jewish spirit, but the condensation and concentration of the perverse 
 Jewish mentality, which malady also pervades the remaining two thirds of 
 Jewry, who almost unanimously support the Jewish State, and who certainly do 
 unanimously support the Jewish People and its consistent and constant crimes 
 against the human race. Israel is Jewry and the danger of Israel is the 
 danger of the Jewish People to all others, as the Jews have demonstrated each 
 and every day of their existence.

 The Jews, the entire Jewish People of 15 million, will not relent until they 
 have wiped out all non-Jews in Greater Israel. They will not stop 
 destroying all other cultures, nations, religions, ethnicities, races, 
 competition, etc. until they are either stopped, or succeed in their ancient 
 quest to destroy the human race.

 What Israel is doing is not some reaction to outside forces, nor was the 
 formation of Israel a response to the Holocaust. Israel is simply following 
 the plan laid out in the Jews' religious texts. The Jews have openly planned 
 to take Palestine and genocide the native population of Palestine for some 
 2,500 years before the Holocaust. The Jews have openly complained that 
 anti-Semitism is a threat that gives them the right to genocide the 
 Palestinians, not merely since the advent of Nazism, but for some 2,500 years.

 The Jewish religion is the Constitution of the Jewish State of Israel, and, 
 to a greater or lesser extent, the constitution of the nature of every Jew 
 alive. The borders of Israel are the range the Jew roams over the entire 
 World. The perverse Jewish mentality is inbred by a Jew's exposure to his 
 parents and to his community. Judaism passes in the spit and slobber of 
 Jewish mother telling her Jewish child that he is a Jew, as much as Judaism 
 passes in the poison and pain of a Talmudic tractate. The secular Jews did 
 not suddenly come to life after the Enlightenment and the Jewish Reformation 
 a body of vampires that appeared ex nihilo, in vacuo, mostly atheistical and 
 undetached from formally practiced Judaism. Judaism is the Jew. It is a 
 mindset that transcends and supercedes religion. It is a belief set, a way of 
 life, a perception of one's self and one's relation to the World that makes a 
 Jew, a Jew, and a danger to all of humanity.

 In fact, the religious shell of Judaism is like the stretched and infected 
 skin of a lycanthropic pustule. When you lance it to cure the infection, the 
 virus only becomes more contagious and spills directly on the non-Jew.

 The secular Jew is a deliberate product of the hyper-religious Jew, a monster 
 created out of the hewed corpses of the fanatically religious Jew, a Golem 
 which is conjured up to enter the World of the non-Jew and poison its blood, 
 and boil its brain with a rabid lunacy that bites and spreads, until the 
 infected community feeds on itself and fills the fields with rotting bloating 
 bodies, where once human beings tilled the soil and tended to their families. 
 The religious Jew created the secular Jew as an army of Esthers who seduce 
 with open thighs, broad smiles, and a Siren call that lures in the non-Jew to 
 cast his skull upon the jagged rocks and color the seas with his blood, 
 sickened and blinded by the venereal disease of Judaism in secular form.

 Israel is not a secular democracy. It is a religious mockery. It is a rabid 
 bat flying to the ends of the Earth, to end the Earth. No one will be free 
 nor safe until the disease is quarantined and dies out.

 Source: 
 http://www.ziopedia.org/articles/israel/how_can_israel_claim_to_be_a_%27democracy%27_when_it_has_no_constitution_nor_borders?/`

 

 The problem with intellectually insecure whites

 Kevin MacDonald

 January 19, 2009

 America will soon have a white 

Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Uhh, what does anti-semitism have to do with hacking phones?

-- 
Thanks,

The Digital Pioneer
___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread arne anka
could someone please do something against this rassistic and antisemitic  
peice of crap?

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread Marcel
I highly doubt he himself sent that mail.

--
Marcel

Am Friday 23 January 2009 17:14:10 schrieb john dowd:
 And you think that this is an appropriate forum because why?

 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer

 mic...@openmoko.org wrote:
  The Jewish State of Israel has no constitution, nor does it name its
  borders. Israel's hidden constitution is Judaism. Israel's undeclared
  borders range from the Nile to the Euphrates rivers. Israel's desired
  jurisdiction extends over the entire Earth.
 
  It could not be more clear that the Jewish State follows a foreign policy
  which obeys Jewish Law as iterated in the Hebrew Bible, the Talmud,
  Maimonedes, the Cabalah, and the many commentaries and refinements of
  same. The Jews are genociding the native inhabitants of Palestine, just
  as their religion advises, and because their religion teaches them to do
  so. They treat non-Jews as if non-humans, just as their religion requires
  them to do. They make perpetual war on every nation on Earth, just as
  their genocidal Jewish God has instructed.
 
  The Jews of Israel are simply being Jews. Jews are an existential threat
  to the human race.
 
  Israel contains one third of the Jews of the World. It is not some
  aberration of the Jewish spirit, but the condensation and concentration
  of the perverse Jewish mentality, which malady also pervades the
  remaining two thirds of Jewry, who almost unanimously support the Jewish
  State, and who certainly do unanimously support the Jewish People and its
  consistent and constant crimes against the human race. Israel is Jewry
  and the danger of Israel is the danger of the Jewish People to all
  others, as the Jews have demonstrated each and every day of their
  existence.
 
  The Jews, the entire Jewish People of 15 million, will not relent until
  they have wiped out all non-Jews in Greater Israel. They will not stop
  destroying all other cultures, nations, religions, ethnicities, races,
  competition, etc. until they are either stopped, or succeed in their
  ancient quest to destroy the human race.
 
  What Israel is doing is not some reaction to outside forces, nor was the
  formation of Israel a response to the Holocaust. Israel is simply
  following the plan laid out in the Jews' religious texts. The Jews have
  openly planned to take Palestine and genocide the native population of
  Palestine for some 2,500 years before the Holocaust. The Jews have openly
  complained that anti-Semitism is a threat that gives them the right to
  genocide the Palestinians, not merely since the advent of Nazism, but for
  some 2,500 years.
 
  The Jewish religion is the Constitution of the Jewish State of Israel,
  and, to a greater or lesser extent, the constitution of the nature of
  every Jew alive. The borders of Israel are the range the Jew roams over
  the entire World. The perverse Jewish mentality is inbred by a Jew's
  exposure to his parents and to his community. Judaism passes in the spit
  and slobber of Jewish mother telling her Jewish child that he is a Jew,
  as much as Judaism passes in the poison and pain of a Talmudic tractate.
  The secular Jews did not suddenly come to life after the Enlightenment
  and the Jewish Reformation a body of vampires that appeared ex nihilo, in
  vacuo, mostly atheistical and undetached from formally practiced Judaism.
  Judaism is the Jew. It is a mindset that transcends and supercedes
  religion. It is a belief set, a way of life, a perception of one's self
  and one's relation to the World that makes a Jew, a Jew, and a danger to
  all of humanity.
 
  In fact, the religious shell of Judaism is like the stretched and
  infected skin of a lycanthropic pustule. When you lance it to cure the
  infection, the virus only becomes more contagious and spills directly on
  the non-Jew.
 
  The secular Jew is a deliberate product of the hyper-religious Jew, a
  monster created out of the hewed corpses of the fanatically religious
  Jew, a Golem which is conjured up to enter the World of the non-Jew and
  poison its blood, and boil its brain with a rabid lunacy that bites and
  spreads, until the infected community feeds on itself and fills the
  fields with rotting bloating bodies, where once human beings tilled the
  soil and tended to their families. The religious Jew created the secular
  Jew as an army of Esthers who seduce with open thighs, broad smiles, and
  a Siren call that lures in the non-Jew to cast his skull upon the jagged
  rocks and color the seas with his blood, sickened and blinded by the
  venereal disease of Judaism in secular form.
 
  Israel is not a secular democracy. It is a religious mockery. It is a
  rabid bat flying to the ends of the Earth, to end the Earth. No one will
  be free nor safe until the disease is quarantined and dies out.
 
  Source:
  http://www.ziopedia.org/articles/israel/how_can_israel_claim_to_be_a_%27d
 emocracy%27_when_it_has_no_constitution_nor_borders?/`
 
  

Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread Thomas White
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:14:10 -0500
john dowd jdowds...@gmail.com wrote:

 And you think that this is an appropriate forum because why?

See the headers.  I strongly suspect some forgery...

Tom

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
Friday 23 January 2009 skrev john dowd:
 And you think that this is an appropriate forum because why?

  i was thinking the same thing. While i may agree with the sentiments of the 
post, i really doubt that this is the forum for discussion on this topic.

-- 
..Dan // Leinir..
http://leinir.dk/

  Co-
existence
  or no
existence

  - Piet Hein

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Judging by the fact that two of those just came from
@openmoko.comaddresses, I would say that it's either a spoofed from
field or they got
hacked somehow...

-- 
Thanks,

The Digital Pioneer
___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread Nelson Castillo
 See the headers.  I strongly suspect some forgery...

It seems so...

N.-

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


IMPORTANT README BEFORE REPLYING TO MICKEY !!!!! (Was Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?)

2009-01-23 Thread Xavier Bestel
Please oh please don't get too nervous !
This is a spam that circulates nowadays on several mailing-lists, and it
hasn't been sent by Mickey. It already happened elsewhere, the mail
address is faked.

Xav

On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 17:09 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 The Jewish State of Israel has no constitution, nor does it name its
 borders. Israel's hidden constitution is Judaism. Israel's undeclared
 borders range from the Nile to the Euphrates rivers. Israel's desired
 jurisdiction extends over the entire Earth.
[...]



___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-23 Thread Helge Hafting
The bigger buttons are nice!
It paused whan a call came in too. :-)

Can you get these improvements into the pythm image at opkg and/or SHR?

Helge Hafting

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread Jan Henkins
This seems to be sent by some kind of malware. Please don't hold it
against people at openmoko.com, it is most certainly not the kind of thing
that they would spout.

On Fri, January 23, 2009 16:19, Scott Sweeny wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:16 AM, The Digital Pioneer


-- 
Regards,
Jan Henkins


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: shr- GPS howto?

2009-01-23 Thread Helge Hafting
Fernando Martins wrote:
 Very nice, thanks. It's indeed working, sort of:
 
 - on my SHR image (08.12.16), settings has no option for GPS

You are right, of course.
These days, no option for turning the gps hardware on or off. Gps is 
turned on automatically by fso-gpsd, when an app tries to use it.
 
 - it took at least 4 minutes to get a fix. Last time, I gave up after 10 
 min. All tests this evening, same place, tallest buildings almost 100mt 
 away; my house is ~10mt high.

Check if you have one of the older freerunners that have problems using 
gps and SDcard at the same time. Take the sdcard out, and rund from 
flash. If the gps is better, then that was the problem. You should also 
be able to see a tiny capacitor between two of the pins under the sdcard 
slot. If it isn't there, then your phone have this problem.

Helge Hafting

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: shr- GPS howto?

2009-01-23 Thread arne anka
 slot. If it isn't there, then your phone have this problem.

not necessarily. in fact, if you really have this problem you didn't  
update your kernel a very long time.
the gps/sd card fix is in all kernels available for a very long time now,  
the hw fix is not necessary.

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-23 Thread Helge Hafting
Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
 Hi!,
 
 The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest and now
 we want to share a version for Neo devices.
 
Great game!

One problem though. The sound is sometimes fine, and sometimes extremely 
choppy. Is the game trying to make more advanced sound (mixing etc.) 
than the weak processor can handle? Or is there something wrong with the 
SHR distribution?

Helge Hafting

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-23 Thread Helge Hafting
Helge Hafting wrote:
 The bigger buttons are nice!
 It paused whan a call came in too. :-)
 
 Can you get these improvements into the pythm image at opkg and/or SHR?
 
Seems I spoke too soon.
Everything got better except the pauses between songs - they got much 
worse. :-( It is faster to restart pythm to play the next song now. The 
delay is several minutes.

Helge Hafting

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Paul
Wow. The phone works nicely. I did not hear a buzz, echo or other 
annoying sounds.
Also SMS/text messaging incoming and outgoing works!

Have not taken the time to try GPS yet, as that is not important for me, 
but I may, soon. ;-)

Paul

-- 
The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you.
-Elmer Davis

http://www.nlpagan.net
Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Matthew Lane
How is suspend on SHR?  Is it working well?  If telephony, SMS, etc. are 
working great, then I might consider switching to SHR as a daily phone!

Paul wrote:
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedWow. The 
 phone works nicely. I did not hear a buzz, echo or other annoying sounds.
 Also SMS/text messaging incoming and outgoing works!

 Have not taken the time to try GPS yet, as that is not important for 
 me, but I may, soon. ;-)

 Paul


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread jon
i haven't any obvious problems with shr, its working great. There are however 
some things still needed to be done in the way of power management...
i.e. allow suspend when powered only by battery is yet to be implemented, 
although the framework for doing such a thing seems to be in place.


On Friday 23 January 2009 17:06:09 Matthew Lane wrote:
 How is suspend on SHR?  Is it working well?  If telephony, SMS, etc. are
 working great, then I might consider switching to SHR as a daily phone!

 Paul wrote:
  div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedWow. The
  phone works nicely. I did not hear a buzz, echo or other annoying sounds.
  Also SMS/text messaging incoming and outgoing works!
 
  Have not taken the time to try GPS yet, as that is not important for
  me, but I may, soon. ;-)
 
  Paul

 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community



___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Paul
Matthew Lane wrote:
 How is suspend on SHR?  Is it working well?  If telephony, SMS, etc. are 
 working great, then I might consider switching to SHR as a daily phone!
   

Have not gotten to suspend-play yet. I flashed the phone and horsed 
around a bit while I was supposed to work ;-) (Hush, okay?)

I'll get around to that at a later stage. For now I'm happy with SHR and 
will keep it on the phone.
Btw: the ringtone is awesome. LOL!

Paul

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-23 Thread Dylan Reilly
I am working on a gstreamer version ATM which will allow me to work
around the limitations of mplayer. If/when I get this done, I will
work on making a package and/or seeing if I can integrate with the
main pythm distribution.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:
 Helge Hafting wrote:
 The bigger buttons are nice!
 It paused whan a call came in too. :-)

 Can you get these improvements into the pythm image at opkg and/or SHR?

 Seems I spoke too soon.
 Everything got better except the pauses between songs - they got much
 worse. :-( It is faster to restart pythm to play the next song now. The
 delay is several minutes.

 Helge Hafting

 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community




-- 
Dylan Maxwell Reilly

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
I got the exact same email sent from 'myself' earlier today so its
definitely just forged spam

Christian

On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 11:21 -0500, Nelson Castillo wrote:
  See the headers.  I strongly suspect some forgery...
 
 It seems so...
 
 N.-
 
 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-23 Thread Giovanni
Hi Rafa,

thanks for your reply.

I installed the missing libraries indicated in the README-openmoko.txt file.

It works! Very good!

Because the sound is not good, I changed the launch command in the
/usr/bin/linball.sh file as follows:

   DISPLAY=:0 ./linball -f n

The difference is adding the n at the end of the command, in order to
disable the sound.

However, when I start the application, the sound is always playing.

How can I remove the sound?






On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Rafael Ignacio Zurita
rizur...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hello Giovanni,

 --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com wrote:
  I installed it from opkg.org on my Om2008.12, but when I
  click on the
  Linball icon, I get a Application run error and
  nothing happens.
 
  What can I do?

 You can try to run the game from shell and to check the output.

 You also need some libraries to run the game:
 http://linball.sourceforge.net/README-openmoko.txt

 Regards, Rafa

 --
 Rafael Ignacio Zurita
 Buenos Aires, Argentina


 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread Ed Kapitein
Openmoko.com and openmoko.org do not seem to have SPF records in DNS.
( http://www.openspf.org )
Can someone please add these records? it would help stop spreading these
false mails.

Kind regards,
Ed

Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote:
 I got the exact same email sent from 'myself' earlier today so its
 definitely just forged spam

 Christian

 On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 11:21 -0500, Nelson Castillo wrote:
   
 See the headers.  I strongly suspect some forgery...
   
 It seems so...

 N.-

 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
 


 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


   


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-23 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hi Helge,

--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:
 Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
  Hi!,
  
  The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest
 and now
  we want to share a version for Neo devices.
  
 Great game!

Thanks! :)


 One problem though. The sound is sometimes fine, and
 sometimes extremely choppy. Is the game trying to make more
 advanced sound (mixing etc.) than the weak processor can
 handle? Or is there something wrong with the SHR
 distribution?

Well, in my system (OM2008.12) the game works ok, but there is
not other extra X applications running, and we can't add more
effects..

Two things to test:
- play without sound running ./linball -f -n , or 
- replace the music.ogg stereo file with this mono ogg file:
http://linball.sf.net/music.ogg

Let us to know if you get better speed.

Rafa

--
Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Buenos Aires, Argentina


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-23 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hi!,

--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks for your reply.
 
 I installed the missing libraries indicated in the
 README-openmoko.txt file.
 
 It works! Very good!

Great man!


 Because the sound is not good, I changed the launch command
 in the
 /usr/bin/linball.sh file as follows:
 
DISPLAY=:0 ./linball -f n
 
 The difference is adding the n at the end of
 the command, in order to
 disable the sound.
 
 However, when I start the application, the sound is always
 playing.

The option is -n no n. So you need to run the game with :
DISPLAY=:0 ./linball -f -n
if you want to try the game without sound.

Regards, Rafa

--
Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Buenos Aires, Argentina


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Spam

2009-01-23 Thread 'dillo

Hmmm. It would appear that somebody's desktop system or server has  
been compromised.
You all might want to check your AV software.
Can I also suggest that people not use the offensive subject in their  
replies? ---It only gives the bigots
more traction and voice.  If you think the message is offensive, just  
think of what it will look like in a Google search
3 months from now.

-Steve

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Matthew Lane
Suspend does not work while only on battery yet?  How long is the 
battery life?  Only a few hours I imagine.


jon wrote:
i haven't any obvious problems with shr, its working great. There are however 
some things still needed to be done in the way of power management...
i.e. allow suspend when powered only by battery is yet to be implemented, 
although the framework for doing such a thing seems to be in place.



On Friday 23 January 2009 17:06:09 Matthew Lane wrote:
  

How is suspend on SHR?  Is it working well?  If telephony, SMS, etc. are
working great, then I might consider switching to SHR as a daily phone!

Paul wrote:


div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedWow. The
phone works nicely. I did not hear a buzz, echo or other annoying sounds.
Also SMS/text messaging incoming and outgoing works!

Have not taken the time to try GPS yet, as that is not important for
me, but I may, soon. ;-)

Paul
  

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community






  
___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Pander
Will the normal phone improvements regarding noise and buzz also be fed
back into the Om2008 distro?

Matthew Lane wrote:
 Suspend does not work while only on battery yet?  How long is the
 battery life?  Only a few hours I imagine.
 
 jon wrote:
 i haven't any obvious problems with shr, its working great. There are 
 however 
 some things still needed to be done in the way of power management...
 i.e. allow suspend when powered only by battery is yet to be implemented, 
 although the framework for doing such a thing seems to be in place.


 On Friday 23 January 2009 17:06:09 Matthew Lane wrote:
   
 How is suspend on SHR?  Is it working well?  If telephony, SMS, etc. are
 working great, then I might consider switching to SHR as a daily phone!

 Paul wrote:
 
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedWow. The
 phone works nicely. I did not hear a buzz, echo or other annoying sounds.
 Also SMS/text messaging incoming and outgoing works!

 Have not taken the time to try GPS yet, as that is not important for
 me, but I may, soon. ;-)

 Paul
   
 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
 




   
 
 
 
 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Spam

2009-01-23 Thread Pander
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Can mailman be configured that you have to sign your messages correctly
and otherwise they will not be distributed?

Steve 'dillo Okay wrote:
 Hmmm. It would appear that somebody's desktop system or server has  
 been compromised.
 You all might want to check your AV software.
 Can I also suggest that people not use the offensive subject in their  
 replies? ---It only gives the bigots
 more traction and voice.  If you think the message is offensive, just  
 think of what it will look like in a Google search
 3 months from now.
 
 -Steve
 
 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iEUEARECAAYFAkl6BSEACgkQuSp/DnmT6VzWyACfTcIRBtkTimAOEMB+r+6V8KDA
kQIAmOEVjCuy4Ircxhv05bCKgZZr98E=
=Tsuj
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-23 Thread Giovanni
OK.

Thanks again!




On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Rafael Ignacio Zurita
rizur...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hi!,

 --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com wrote:
  thanks for your reply.
 
  I installed the missing libraries indicated in the
  README-openmoko.txt file.
 
  It works! Very good!

 Great man!


  Because the sound is not good, I changed the launch command
  in the
  /usr/bin/linball.sh file as follows:
 
 DISPLAY=:0 ./linball -f n
 
  The difference is adding the n at the end of
  the command, in order to
  disable the sound.
 
  However, when I start the application, the sound is always
  playing.

 The option is -n no n. So you need to run the game with :
 DISPLAY=:0 ./linball -f -n
 if you want to try the game without sound.

 Regards, Rafa

 --
 Rafael Ignacio Zurita
 Buenos Aires, Argentina


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Richy
The phone does suspend. Battery-life is at least a day. (without wifi).

However, it doesn't suspend again after receiving an sms. Which is a
battery-killer if you don't check your phone every 20min.

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Paul Fertser
Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net writes:
 Will the normal phone improvements regarding noise and buzz also be fed
 back into the Om2008 distro?

Om2008.x is dead. Get used to it. No, no improvements will be fed back
there.

And GSM buzz is a hardware issue! No amount of flashing can solve
it. The fix was provided long time ago, aren't you tired to discuss
non-working non-realistic ways to overcome the buzz instead of finding
a guy who can solder?

-- 
Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software!
mailto:fercer...@gmail.com


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread
you don't have to hack anything or find out passwords etc to get a faked 
mail address.
it is a simple spoof which can be accoplished using telnet/ssh and an 
email account, nothing else needed (if the mailserver is configured in a 
certain way).
we did the same thing to scare the crap out of people sending mails with 
faked address.
eg the school's principal, or just to play tricks like sending mails to 
people that were going to a concert, telling them that the've won a meet 
and greet with the artist on april fools day.
a freind of mine wrote a simple gui for pranks like that (the principal 
nearly killed him, whe he found out he distributed such an application).
...and no it was not him, he is currently in africa helping the poor



___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Just for the records. I didn't write that.

-- 
:M:

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: [Tango-GPS] Map bulk download?

2009-01-23 Thread arne anka
 Those are links to snapshots of the OSM database in XML, not the  
 rendered tiles that Martin is looking for.

aargh, you're right -- i fell into that trap already a while ago!
i read some howtos to setup rendering (mapnik or something else), and it  
is an overkill!

the best bet would probably be, if tangogps would support the binary maps,  
like navit does.

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Pander
Paul Fertser wrote:
 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net writes:
 Will the normal phone improvements regarding noise and buzz also be fed
 back into the Om2008 distro?
 
 Om2008.x is dead. Get used to it. No, no improvements will be fed back
 there.
 
 And GSM buzz is a hardware issue! No amount of flashing can solve
 it. The fix was provided long time ago, aren't you tired to discuss
 non-working non-realistic ways to overcome the buzz instead of finding
 a guy who can solder?
 

Hi Paul,

Thanks for your reply. I was not refering to the hardware issue, I don't
have that one. I'm using Om2008.12 now (which is supported, not?). My
friends on the other end of the line can tell each time I have a new
version since other/new software related noises are on the line.

Regards,

Pander

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Compiling linux applications for the Freerunner

2009-01-23 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
I think simplest way is that toolchain, which you have installed, if I
undestood right. (But there are ready ubuntu deb also.)

Go to directory where you have sources and type
. /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env
Now you can, _in this directory_, use commands like
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc and opkg-target (check with tabulator
what you have).

If you got binary compiled, check with command 'file' is it for right
architecture.

And yes Mokomakefile and bb-files are the next step.

-Aapo Rantalainen

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Spam

2009-01-23 Thread Jim Ancona
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Steve  'dillo Okay
armad...@gothpunk.com wrote:

 Hmmm. It would appear that somebody's desktop system or server has
 been compromised.

No, looking at the headers, almost certainly not. Someone simply
forged Mickey's address using their email client. I receive spam
From my address all the time. The only difference is that they sent
it through the mailing list.

 You all might want to check your AV software.
 Can I also suggest that people not use the offensive subject in their
 replies? ---It only gives the bigots
 more traction and voice.  If you think the message is offensive, just
 think of what it will look like in a Google search
 3 months from now.

A better rule (which I have just violated) is not to reply at all,
since it just clutters the list.

Jim

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Matthew Lane
Luckily, I do.  Can you manually suspend by tapping the power button, 
like 2008.12?  And once the SMS is read, will it then automatically 
suspend?  Thanks.

Richy wrote:
 The phone does suspend. Battery-life is at least a day. (without wifi).

 However, it doesn't suspend again after receiving an sms. Which is a
 battery-killer if you don't check your phone every 20min.


   

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Re: SHR Unstable

2009-01-23 Thread Steven **
Pressing the power button brings up a small menu.  One of the options
is suspend.  Suspending this way takes a few seconds, but the resume
is pretty snappy.

-Steven

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Matthew Lane mal...@purdue.edu wrote:
 Luckily, I do.  Can you manually suspend by tapping the power button,
 like 2008.12?  And once the SMS is read, will it then automatically
 suspend?  Thanks.

 Richy wrote:
 The phone does suspend. Battery-life is at least a day. (without wifi).

 However, it doesn't suspend again after receiving an sms. Which is a
 battery-killer if you don't check your phone every 20min.




 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

2009-01-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
MIke Crash m...@mikecrash.com writes:
 If someone interested, i have packaged e17 for debian, you can download it on
 www.mikecrash.com

How does this relate to the existing e17 package that is in debian? [1]

Where's the source code to your packages?

[1]
$ apt-cache show e17
Package: e17
Version: 0.16.999.050+svn20081207-2~fr.1
Architecture: armel
Maintainer: Debian Pkg-e Team pkg-e-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Installed-Size: 4184
Depends: libasound2 ( 1.0.16), libc6 (= 2.7-1), libcurl3 (= 7.16.2-1), 
libdbus-1-3 (= 1.0.2), libecore-0.9.9.050a, libecore-con0 (= 0.9.9.042), 
libecore-evas0 (= 0.9.9.042), libecore-fb0 (= 0.9.9.042), libecore-file0 (= 
0.9.9.042), libecore-imf0 (= 0.9.9.042), libecore-ipc0 (= 0.9.9.042), 
libecore-job0 (= 0.9.9.042), libecore-txt0 (= 0.9.9.042), libecore-x0 (= 
0.9.9.050), libedbus-0.5.0.050a, libedje-0.9.9.050a, libeet1 (= 1.0.0), 
libefreet0 (= 0.5.0.050+svn20081114), libeina-0.0.1a, libembryo0 (= 
0.9.1.042), libevas-0.9.9.050a, libgcc1 (= 1:4.3), libpam0g (= 0.99.7.1), 
libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8f-5), libx11-6, libxext6, e17-data (= 
0.16.999.050+svn20081207-2~fr.1), libevas-0.9.9.050a-engines, libedje-bin
Conflicts: enlightenment
Provides: x-window-manager
Homepage: http://www.enlightenment.org
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Filename: pool/main/e/e17/e17_0.16.999.050+svn20081207-2~fr.1_armel.deb
Size: 1552700
SHA256: 5a2e2783f1c58fda161e9458ee32acbd448ce44d783af040e29d53599cc8a39c
SHA1: 19850b00aa3612028a99fbb4f3423fc0cb168d11
MD5sum: debd3ca1fd6800924eff7469c556c4ab
Description: The Enlightenment DR17 Window Manager
 Enlightenment is an advanced window manager for X11. Unique
 features include: a fully animated background, nice drop shadows
 around windows, backed by an extremely clean and optimized
 foundation of APIs.
 .
 This package contains the core files for Enlightenment DR17.

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Dead Neo 1973 - drained battery

2009-01-23 Thread wim . delvaux
Any way I can ressusitate this device ?

W

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Dead Neo 1973 - drained battery

2009-01-23 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
On Friday 23 January 2009, wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wrote:
 Any way I can ressusitate this device ?
you may need to get a charged battery for instance from a Nokia lc5 or lc6.
Did it for me (nothing else worked). Once you have the FR booted you can hook 
it up to power, replace the battery and charge your own.

greetings
E

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Dead Neo 1973 - drained battery

2009-01-23 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
well I've used a usb cable to boot a not-so-dead neo, and a nokia 
battery to boot one that was turned off for like a week

wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com escribió:
 Any way I can ressusitate this device ?

 W

 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


   

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

2009-01-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com writes:
 This is the same, only newer, source code from e17 official repo, i have

But where's the source code for the debian packaging (the ./debian/
subdirectory used with dpkg-buildpackage)?



___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

2009-01-23 Thread Mike Crash

It is part of e17 svn (svn.enlightenment.org), so i have not uploaded it


Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 
 But where's the source code for the debian packaging (the ./debian/
 subdirectory used with dpkg-buildpackage)?
 

-- 
View this message in context: 
http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--e17-from-fso-repos-tp2168121p2206371.html
Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-23 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz


Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 Just for the records. I didn't write that.
 

Me neither. Sorry about this nonsense everyone.

   -Sean




___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community