Re: [SHR] Cannot see sdcard
El Saturday, 16 de May de 2009 20:31:10 Alexander Syring va escriure: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ dmesg | grep mmc [21474571.21] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x01 length 3 [21474571.24] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x1a length 5 [21474571.245000] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x1b length 8 [21474571.25] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x80 length 1 [21474571.25] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x81 length 1 [21474571.25] mmc1: queuing CIS tuple 0x82 length 1 [21474571.255000] mmc1: new SDIO card at address 0001 [21474688.305000] mmc1: card 0001 removed what does this means? I think those messages are from the wireless sd socket no from the glamo one that holds the uSD Why is the card removed? what is the output of cat /proc/partitions How can I solve it? I am used to test the presence of the sd card in u-boot with mmcinit as in my GTA01 some times suffer of bad connection without a SIM or fake one ( just the plastic) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [possibly any] Your storage is full
I think it is because it stores the SENT smses, but does not display them On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:09 AM, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list. My friend's been having this problem for a long time(since I installed her SHR, before that it was FDOM). And I experience it myself. The message 'Your storage is full' is being displayed for me each time the distribution boots and nothing could be done with it. Cannot see _ANY_ sms in the messages app. There is _nothing_ displayed. My friend says she's been able to delete them by inserting the sim into her Motorola and deleting them by hand there. What's the problem here? What app works with the sim card? Does the gsm modem work with it so it is broken or is it just a modem? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] a community effort
Good news to hear about all the progress on opimd. We have been working on a PIM synchronization tool named PISI for a while. I think, with all the progress here we should start integrating it with opimd; for now mainly contacts and calendar information. Where could I find more information about the possible APIs? I guess, the best way would be to access the persistence backend directly; should the SQLite backend be the preferred one here? If, where could I get more information from about it ... and if not; which way - do you think - should be the preferred one to access / add / modify pim information in opimd. Any source of information besides this one here (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opimd)? Thx in advance for any comments; greetings Mike Original-Nachricht Datum: Sat, 16 May 2009 10:35:03 +0200 Von: Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org CC: de...@lists.openmoko.org de...@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: [Om2009] a community effort Community: if you want to write some opimd support (for instance in Paroli) or improve opimd itself, please contact me. It was hard to understand everything, but now, after fixing Contacts domain, I think I can give you some useful knowledge :) I have also few nice and helpful python test scrips. I'm going to post them on maillist soon. Right now we have working Contacts domain with three backends: SIM, CSV and SQLite. Now I'm going to work on Messages domain, which ATM can only read from SIM backend. People who helped me to fix opimd: Heinervdm (SQLite backend), mirko-paroli (adding items with SIM backend) and mrmoku (opimd feeded SHR GUI:[ libframeworkd-phonegui-elf2). I would like to see also you on this list! :) Regards, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak On 5/16/09, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.org wrote: Hey there, A lot has happened over the past couple of months, but most important in my mind has been getting OM2009 out into the hands of the community. When we set the very limited goals of OM2009 we had two goals in mind: 1. Give those members of the community who only wanted a daily phone, a distro they could use 2. Introduce technology that would allow the community to come together and improve on these basics Community interaction, open development and user driven decision making are at the core of Om2009. Going forward this will be an effort with the community for the community. The help and support I have gotten from the community over the past couple of days and weeks has been remarkable and I can see things starting to move and slowly coming together. We need more of this! I invite you to join the effort to make om2009 with paroli the best Om-labeled distribution for the Freerunner. How can you help? Test the distro, let us know about bugs you find, or even fix them and send us patches. Tell us about your experiences using om2009, what should we change, where can we improve? Paroli has come a long way but it still needs a lot of love and optimizing, so if you are into python or efl, check out the code from git.paroli.org, join #paroli on irc and let's get crackin'. There is lots of things to do, opimd needs to be integrated and improved, the UI needs polishing, overall speed can be increased etc etc More into Chat and email? Feel like writing a jabber/irc/xxx or email client that really fits the screen? Or do you know of one? Let's hear about it. See a list of proposals on: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009_get_active and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-issues This device has a lot of potential and we are so close to reaching the far corners, the kernel is in good shape, the framework is doing great and telephony apps such as paroli or the shr suite are steadily improving. So, get your Freerunner in shape again. Flash it with a nice current distro and let it do what it was meant to do :) Let's make Om2009 a community product, something all of us can be proud of and say we did this. Regards, /Mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
850 FreeRunner with buzz issue?
Dear community, I am currently coordinate all the events related to buzz rework. Just wondering, if anyone has encountered any buzz problem while using his/her FreeRunner 850Mhz. Some feedback will be extremely appreciated. Thanks. -Chelsea ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2009] comments about om2009
Hi, I just flashed Om2009 on Freerunner and there comes my first thoughts about it: Parolis titles are not intuitive. I didn't realize what I/O means until I read all manuals (input-output=log) Paroli profile should not be default. Freerunner isn't just a phone, so it is weird that default profile is 'simple-phone-theme'. Now all users are forced to first change profile when flash Om2009. So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone suspended. I turn suspending off in illumes wrench-settings, but it doesn't help because paroli has own settings and own suspend time. Why there are old version of vala-terminal? I do not know how to sort in order version numbers containing git. Version on openmoko.org/repository is the 'tag 1.1.1' on http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=vala-terminal.git and version on opkg.org is newer but named 1.1.1-r0.3 (And 1.1.1-r0.4 is coming). But installing package from opkg.org doesn't success. #workaround: wget vala-terminal_1.1.1-r0.3_armv4t.opk ar x vala-terminal_1.1.1-r0.3_armv4t.opk gunzip data.tar.gz tar -xvf data.tar mv usr/bin/vala-terminal /usr/bin/ Does somebody really use alternative desktops? I can't imagine situation when they are needed. But maybe these buttons can be used to change folder in home view? Btw: do you know what is most popular (most downloaded) package in opkg.org? It is sortdesk, which emulates folders in home view. I could be proud of it, but I think it should be builtin in window manager. (Or which component is handling desktop) Is somebody working with that already? When I try to close home (just for testing will it crash) It draws vertical line on middle of screen. http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/333258bf820a1072e77de1c50e3dd09a.png -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] comments about om2009
Hi, thanks for sharing your findings. Really, all this is helpful to us! So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone suspended. I turn suspending off in illumes wrench-settings, but it doesn't help because paroli has own settings and own suspend time. these are not paroli settings but fso settings which are exposed in paroli. Also, you will find that none of the settings you find in illume-wrench except the profile switcher are mirrored in paroli. When I try to close home (just for testing will it crash) It draws vertical line on middle of screen. http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/333258bf820a1072e77de1c50e3dd09a.png This was a bug in enlightenment (e17) which was fixed upstream. /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New Life in Openmoko Phones
Hi everybody, (sorry for the cross-posting, I thought spreading the word about gta02-core and new stuff from Openmoko was worth it...) Today Openmoko released additional pieces of documentation about Freerunner hardware: board outline, footprints and netlist. Same as all other releases before - under Creative Commons Share-Alike license. Available at: http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/gta02_outline_footprints_netlist.tar.bz2 What is this and who is it for? Well, definitely not for end users, not for software developers, not even the typical kernel hacker. The release contains cryptic text files containing data points about our hardware - basically additional information complementing our PDF-formatted schematics release last year. The reason we released this is to support an exiting new project that has emerged over the last few weeks - gta02-core. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gta02-core gta02-core is a community project to create a new hardware revision of the gta02 hardware They chose a 100% GPL layout tool, KiCAD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicad), which uses only text-based files hence they can be checked into typical revision control systems. Since they are text, they are also 'scriptable', i.e. scripts can extract and process data from the layout files. Werner and Dave Ball got it rolling, and are currently working on the re-layout of gta02 (http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/browser/trunk/gta02-core). The way I see gta02-core is that it opens up a path to new, fully open phone hardware. For the future of the software we are all working on right now - whether it's the kernel, FSO, Paroli/Ophonekit, etc., we either need to design new fully open hardware specifically for it, or we need to find ways to hack into phones that are 'closed' by default (either accidentally or on purpose). gta02-core focuses on the first option, and I hope will receive more attention from the community, and definitely from Openmoko the company. The path is long, even KiCAD itself may need improvements, but if a few more people get interested and join, we may have new fully open phone hardware in 6-12 months. No worries, in all this time of course the Freerunners will remain available (we have enough in stock and are ready for new production runs if necessary), and hopefully they continue to be an interesting development platform for mobile free software projects. Right now, if you want to join the revolution in open hardware development, read the gta02-core wiki page carefully (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gta02-core), and join the mailing list (slightly confusingly named gta03 :-)) at http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/gta03 Then see where you can contribute - it's a wide open field with many possible tasks, no matter which background you are coming from. I'll see what I can do. Best Regards, Wolfgang ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] comments about om2009
So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone suspended. I turn suspending off in illumes wrench-settings, but it doesn't help because paroli has own settings and own suspend time. these are not paroli settings but fso settings which are exposed in paroli. Also, you will find that none of the settings you find in illume-wrench except the profile switcher are mirrored in paroli. What this mean? I must disable suspend two different place to get it disabled. Or is this setting under illume-wrench not in use? -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] comments about om2009
On May 18, 2009 11:06:22 am Aapo Rantalainen wrote: So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone suspended. I turn suspending off in illumes wrench-settings, but it doesn't help because paroli has own settings and own suspend time. these are not paroli settings but fso settings which are exposed in paroli. Also, you will find that none of the settings you find in illume-wrench except the profile switcher are mirrored in paroli. What this mean? I must disable suspend two different place to get it disabled. Or is this setting under illume-wrench not in use? -Aapo Rantalainen The illume wrench settings are not in use. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] comments about om2009
Hej, Aapo Rantalainen wrote: So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone suspended. I turn suspending off in illumes wrench-settings, but it doesn't help because paroli has own settings and own suspend time. these are not paroli settings but fso settings which are exposed in paroli. Also, you will find that none of the settings you find in illume-wrench except the profile switcher are mirrored in paroli. What this mean? I must disable suspend two different place to get it disabled. Or is this setting under illume-wrench not in use? I believe the settings in wrench don't have any effect right now. Can anyone confirm or claim otherwise? /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gta02-core sounds interesting. could someone add background information why parts change? removing the glamo seems pretty plausible, but why removing one of the accelerometers? audio amp? nor? ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [possibly any] Your storage is full
It should be fixed in SHR unstable... Dunno if testing has fix. It was stupid bug about displaying only read messages in messagelist. In SHR sent smses aren't stored. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI 0.2 released
Francesc, to be honest - I am not aware of any client. And, I am not too sure, which Calendar client is the first one, that would need to be supported by PISI. I would aim for opimd support over the next weeks as I guess, this will be the plattform to be used in this area. Any comment / objection? I would be happy to get some more input for these things ... Greetings Mike Francesc Romà i Frigolé wrote: On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de mailto:kichka...@gmx.de wrote: We just released PISI 0.2. Loads of enhancements were applied to Calendar synchronization - now supporting Google Calendar and ICalendar. Is there any calendar application that uses the iCalendar format or can import/export it? thanks Francesc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:20:13PM +0200, arne anka wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gta02-core sounds interesting. could someone add background information why parts change? removing the glamo seems pretty plausible, but why removing one of the accelerometers? audio amp? nor? ... I don't see why to remove one of the accelerometers and have added so to the Discussion tab. Rui -- Pzat! Today is Pungenday, the 65th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones
Hi, On Tue, 19.05.2009 at 01:01:43 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@openmoko.com wrote: (sorry for the cross-posting, I thought spreading the word about gta02-core and new stuff from Openmoko was worth it...) much appreciated. I don't understand nor agree to all stated goals, however. If you have something that I could quickly read to get the rationale for the various proposed changes, I'd be really glad to go and read that. They chose a 100% GPL layout tool, KiCAD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicad), which uses only text-based files This sounds good, but you seem to require a certain minimum version of Kicad, right? Checking out from OM and running Lenny's Kicad produced less-than-satisfactory results... Either the repo is broken, or the software is. Some clarification would be nice to have! Kind regards, --Toni++ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Today Openmoko released additional pieces of documentation about Freerunner hardware: board outline, footprints and netlist. This is great. Thanks a lot to you and everyone in Openmoko who has helped to make this happen ! With these files, we'll be able to make a mechanically accurate board prototype and we can also do more extensive sanity-checking of the gta02-core design and layout before making any hardware. So again thanks a lot ! This will help our crazy little project a good deal. - Werner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones
2009/5/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:20:13PM +0200, arne anka wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gta02-core sounds interesting. could someone add background information why parts change? removing the glamo seems pretty plausible, but why removing one of the accelerometers? audio amp? nor? ... I don't see why to remove one of the accelerometers and have added so to the Discussion tab. For this you have the actual GTA02, I'm not an expert at all, but keep things simply is always a good Idea , and as they sayd is not pretended to have a production ready phone, but all the learning done in the way of do this simply phone can help to start a more complicated design, even with gyroscopes, compass, a full kitchen and swimming pool if it fit the case, but now I agree in do this a simple but powerful as they can, and even if they finish with something looks like this[1] but with functional GPS/WIFI/BT/GPRS/CIR/SIR/USB will worth the effort just my 0.2 euro cents [1]http://www.gsmarena.com/alcatel_hc_800-40.php Rui -- Pzat! Today is Pungenday, the 65th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Community-driven redesign / new theme for Paroli
Hi my fellow Freerunnerians! BACKGROUND # OM2009 [1] and Paroli [2] (as well as opimd, FSO, Enlightenment and all apps :) are under heavy development. For those who have tried OM2009 (latest image is testing3, released about 10 days ago) with Paroli have had to spend some minutes playing around with it to learn how it works: I guess most of us tried the I/O menu [3] first and get to a screen that only has a button 'edit' and that's it [4] [5]. I really respect the work that Mirko is doing with Paroli. I don't understand everything what's being said but Paroli is told to be easily extendable (.py plugins) to do almost anything. It can run on multiple devices and distros (Currently OM2009 and SHR, Debian to come with the new elementary or something..). At the moment it's already a working phone application - it has passed the high standards of long call to my mum, even overseas :). So I really see it worth contributing to with all the skills we have. WHAT? ## To give Paroli an extra boost I suggest that we create an alternative theme for Paroli. The one Mirko OM are writing will work fine but it really wouldn't hurt to see some new themes. I'm sure there are professional designers and user experts around who could use some of the skills they have and this way also help OM: by making more people interested in using developing Paroli (at least I first check the 'Screenshots' page of a new F/LOSS app I find and often judge based on what I see :) WHO HOW? ### I don't know exactly how doable it is. As far as I know, it's possible to create themes for Paroli. I don't know what parts can be changed or how to do it but I believe that if people are interested, it'll all come out nicely: I'm sure someone here knows the good old penpaper thing (or GIMP or Inkscape :) to design a GUI for Paroli. We add some user experience skills to give it the usability touch. I'm also sure there are people here who know enough about themes and python to implement the template. Maybe we even have people around who can write us a theme switcher? Creating a theme must not be that hard if it's well supported in Paroli so I really believe we can do it - together. If you know anything about design, themes or Paroli please share it with us in this thread to encourage others. Let's start the discussion here. As soon as something comes up, let's add it here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-themes - let your imagination flow and create mockups to be shared! Enjoy your freedom!! r ps. some thoughts I have right now: * SMS writing in landscape mode: one small (but readable) line for text and HUGE keyboard to be used with your fingers while walking * What kind of effects do we have available? Fading, sliding..? I'd like to see it smoooth bling bling to impress my fellow Nokianians [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli [3] http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/io/ [4] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-May/047818.html [5] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-May/047897.html -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones
Werner Almesberger wrote: Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Today Openmoko released additional pieces of documentation about Freerunner hardware: board outline, footprints and netlist. This is great. Thanks a lot to you and everyone in Openmoko who has helped to make this happen ! Ack - Thanks all! Dave ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones
On Monday 18 May 2009, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I don't see why to remove one of the accelerometers and have added so to the Discussion tab. Is the second accelerometer genuinely useful? IIRC due to the small distance between the accels it can only be used to measure large angular accelerations, and then only on two axes. It might be useful to replace the accel with a 3 axis gyro or magnetometer though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community-driven redesign / new theme for Paroli
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:55:57PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: ps. some thoughts I have right now: * SMS writing in landscape mode: one small (but readable) line for text and HUGE keyboard to be used with your fingers while walking I'd like to throw a dbus signal warning subscribing apps the phone is on landscape or portrait mode. I think one of the problem for the current GUI apps is not knowing hte orientation. Whatever position omnewrotate infers, most apps have no idea something has changed and they just look horrible (at best) and unusable (most of the time). * What kind of effects do we have available? Fading, sliding..? I'd like to see it smoooth bling bling to impress my fellow Nokianians That smells like sowww UI on this hardware, sadly :( Rui -- Kallisti! Today is Pungenday, the 65th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community-driven redesign / new theme for Paroli
On Monday 18 May 2009 22:14:00 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:55:57PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: ps. some thoughts I have right now: * SMS writing in landscape mode: one small (but readable) line for text and HUGE keyboard to be used with your fingers while walking I'd like to throw a dbus signal warning subscribing apps the phone is on landscape or portrait mode. I think one of the problem for the current GUI apps is not knowing hte orientation. And some way (another dbus signal) which apps (mokomaze) can use to disable screen rotation when they're running - it would be good for the active call (part of the) program to use this otherwise you never know what button you're pressing. solar.george (OK neither a paroli or a theme thought but i suppose a general useability one counts too) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: 2009/5/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:20:13PM +0200, arne anka wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gta02-core sounds interesting. could someone add background information why parts change? removing the glamo seems pretty plausible, but why removing one of the accelerometers? audio amp? nor? ... I don't see why to remove one of the accelerometers and have added so to the Discussion tab. For this you have the actual GTA02, I'm not an expert at all, but keep things simply is always a good Idea , and as they sayd is not pretended to have a production ready phone, but all the learning done in the way of do this simply phone can help to start a more complicated design, even with gyroscopes, compass, a full kitchen and swimming pool if it fit the case, but now I agree in do this a simple but powerful as they can, and even if they finish with something looks like this[1] but with functional GPS/WIFI/BT/GPRS/CIR/SIR/USB will worth the effort For me, I think you've hit the nail on the head. We're trying something new with gta02-core, and by working on the small changes we've proposed we can focus on the tools that we use, the organisation of individual contributors and the stages we need to go through to get functional hardware. Doing gta02-core means that we should be able to move forward fairly rapidly and shake out any problems as we go. For that aim, the specific changes we make are almost arbitrary - and as stated on the wiki we don't expect this to turn into production hardware. My hope is certainly that we'll be in a position to design a more interesting device once we've finished with gta02-core, having established a hardware community and process for making those design decisions. We'll also be in a better position to discuss part availability with suppliers (or project sponsors), if we've demonstrated our ability to 'create' as a community. There's definitely plenty to do, so it would be great to see anyone interested in helping with hardware construction or review on the gta03 list. Dave ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Life in Openmoko Phones
Toni Mueller wrote: They chose a 100% GPL layout tool, KiCAD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicad), which uses only text-based files This sounds good, but you seem to require a certain minimum version of Kicad, right? Checking out from OM and running Lenny's Kicad produced less-than-satisfactory results... Either the repo is broken, or the software is. Some clarification would be nice to have! I'm currently using 20080825 (latest ubuntu package), and Werner is on the svn bleeding edge - both seem to work with the current repo. It's early days, and we are still experimenting with KiCad to work out how best to use it collaboratively - so there may be things we need to change. Come over to the gta03 mailing list and we'll try to help with the specific problems you're having. Dave ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community-driven redesign / new theme for Paroli
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:26:22PM +0100, George Brooke wrote: On Monday 18 May 2009 22:14:00 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:55:57PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: ps. some thoughts I have right now: * SMS writing in landscape mode: one small (but readable) line for text and HUGE keyboard to be used with your fingers while walking I'd like to throw a dbus signal warning subscribing apps the phone is on landscape or portrait mode. I think one of the problem for the current GUI apps is not knowing hte orientation. And some way (another dbus signal) which apps (mokomaze) can use to disable screen rotation when they're running - it would be good for the active call (part of the) program to use this otherwise you never know what button you're pressing. Yeah, that too, but for the time being I just click on the desktop icon to toggle running omnewrotate or not (I have only disabled it for playing the addictive mokomaze) :) Rui -- You are what you see. Today is Pungenday, the 65th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: little today app for shr
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote: Hi, bored loosing some calls and always need to periodically check pyphenlog i wrote a really simple apps that warn me if one or more call are lost. Few days ago after that Pietro posted this app I hacked around its code adding two main functionalities I needed: 1) Vibrating/Sound [following the preferences] notifications every X seconds (120 by default) if the phone is waked-up [1] 2) Vibrating/Sound [following the preferences] notifications every X minutes (15 by default) if the phone is sleeping [2]. While the first one is quite easy to add (It only needed an ecore timer) the second one uses a workaround and ATD to work. I've explained a little how it works in my commit at [2], but basically it adds a new rtc-timer every 15 seconds and if the phone has been resumed by ATD and if there's a notification to perform, then it plays a vibration/sound and suspends again. I've waited some days to post this on the list, because I wanted to test it better, however I figure that the only way to fix the known issues of the (2) feature (again, see [2]) is to patch the kernel to save in a sysfile the latest resume time. I've made this only as a proof-of-concept since I wanted this to be implemented in the FSO correctly; I figure that this is the only way to perform such notifications when the phone is suspended. Any feedback? Please post :P PS: To get the latest version of the script, look here [3]. [1] http://dev.3v1n0.net/gitweb/?p=shr-notifier.git;a=commit;h=42cd96 [2] http://dev.3v1n0.net/gitweb/?p=shr-notifier.git;a=commit;h=76ef4c695 [3] http://dev.3v1n0.net/gitweb/?p=shr-notifier.git;a=blob;f=notifier;hb=HEAD -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community-driven redesign / new theme for Paroli
On Monday 18 May 2009 23:14:56 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:26:22PM +0100, George Brooke wrote: On Monday 18 May 2009 22:14:00 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:55:57PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: ps. some thoughts I have right now: * SMS writing in landscape mode: one small (but readable) line for text and HUGE keyboard to be used with your fingers while walking I'd like to throw a dbus signal warning subscribing apps the phone is on landscape or portrait mode. I think one of the problem for the current GUI apps is not knowing hte orientation. And some way (another dbus signal) which apps (mokomaze) can use to disable screen rotation when they're running - it would be good for the active call (part of the) program to use this otherwise you never know what button you're pressing. Yeah, that too, but for the time being I just click on the desktop icon to toggle running omnewrotate or not (I have only disabled it for playing the addictive mokomaze) :) Rui Now I feel a bit of an idiot, i've been dropping to the command line and doing a killall omnewrotate before playing mokomaze (or letting anyone else play it) solar.george signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] doom accel/touch not working right?
Hi, today i tried again opendoom for freerunner from Scott Carlson and it worked much more than it does a few months earlier. Maybe because i use xserver-xglamo and not fbdev at the moment. First i had to modify the /usr/games/dm startscript to [1] and it worked in landscape mode with a resolution of 240x320. But my first problem was that the touchscreen buttons seems not to work as expected. Only the menu button in the upper right always work. The up/down/enter buttons within the menu only seem to work sometimes. When i touch everywhere around sometimes one of these buttons seems to be touched. After a wild touching session i got a new game started but the accelerometer inputs seems to be broken within doom. I can now touch the menu und fire button which worked but no matter how i rotate my neo the player never even moves a bit. I'm using a recent 2.6.29 kernel from andy-tracking and the accelerometers work in mokomaze or acceleroids, so they seem to be ok. I hope Scott you could modify your opendoom version so it works again with accels? :) Or maybe someone else know what to change in the sourcecode to get it going. Ciao, Rainer [1] # Don't turn LCD off mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage \ org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy 'Display' 'enabled' # LCD - QVGA landscape echo qvga-normal /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state xrandr -s 240x320 -o 1 # start Doom /usr/games/opendoom -config ~/.opendoom/opendoom.cfg # LCD - VGA normal echo normal /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state xrandr -s 480x640 -o 0 # Dim LCD automatically mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage \ org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy 'Display' 'auto' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko on FLOSS weekly
I haven't seen anything on the list about this yet, but FLOSS weekly interviewed Sean Moss-Pultz, and Christopher Hall http://twit.tv/floss69 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko on FLOSS weekly
Hello Ali, It was sent on or Twitter stream yesterday, I meant to leave an message here but did not get around to it until just now. Thanks for posting about it. How did it sound, we had some problems with the Skype connection from Taiwan. Hope you enjoyed the netcast, it was fun doing the interview. On 2009 May 19 Tuesday 07:30:47 you wrote: I haven't seen anything on the list about this yet, but FLOSS weekly interviewed Sean Moss-Pultz, and Christopher Hall http://twit.tv/floss69 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best regards. Christopher Hall hswATopenmoko.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
