Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-30 Thread David Matthews

Hi Brian

GTA04 over wifi, connecting to my IMAP server with TLS.  Thunderbird 
on my laptop works, and Mutt on the gta04 works, but qtopiamail 
doesn't.  I get this error message:


new Qtopia: socketError: 13 : Error during SSL handshake: 
error:14094410:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert handshake 
failure




My misadventures with this have left me perplexed; I don't really understand
why it works now after so very may fails - and this against the earlier
experience of it never having caused a second thought on v35 for instance.

I conclude that is a generic error message that doesn't really point to
the problem and I *think* in my case the fix must have been to select the
appropriate login method. I believe desktop clients do that automatically (
at least sylpheed does) so I'd no prior reason to engage with this issue. I
do think that the lack of ca-certificates was part of the problem.

I probably confused things by trying against 3 different smtp servers -
maybe each one needs a different method setting and I previously failed to
hit on a winning combo.

If you like, I can post a copy of my qtopiamail.conf, which works with a
fastmail smtp account.

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Re: [QtMoko] Error compiling on wheezy

2012-10-30 Thread Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani
Hi Radek,
 git checkout v48
Did not worked.
With target neo I get:
[...]
mv: cannot move `.device.vars' to
`/home/jack/qtm/build/qtopiacore/target/mkspecs/qdevice.pri': No such
file or directory


Warning: PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT/PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR has not
been set. This means your toolchain's .pc files must contain
the paths to the toolchain's libraries  headers. If configure
[...]

and, after creating that directory, I get:
[...]
-qt-gif: invalid command-line switch
-qt-gfx-transformed: unknown argument
-qt-mouse-tslib: unknown argument



Warning: PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT/PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR has not
been set. This means your toolchain's .pc files must contain
the paths to the toolchain's libraries  headers. If configure
[...]



With target PC:
jack@QtDebian:~/qtm/qtmoko$ cd ../build-pc/
jack@QtDebian:~/qtm/build-pc$ ../qtmoko/configure -device pc
Can't enter /home/jack/qtm/qtmoko/devices/pc at
/home/jack/qtm/qtmoko/src/build/bin/configure line 1614.
make: *** [src/build/mkconf/configure] Error 2
jack@QtDebian:~/qtm/build-pc$ ls /home/jack/qtm/qtmoko/devices/pc
ls: cannot access /home/jack/qtm/qtmoko/devices/pc: No such file or
directory

Thanks,
   Giacomo

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Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

2012-10-30 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 29 October 2012 20:16:34 Michael Parchet wrote:
 Hello,
 
 The switzerland mobile phone providers will prepare the LTE (4g) network.
 
 Do you think to make a 4g matherboard gta05 ?

Option now have LTE modules, but they are a little bigger than the gtm601u in 
the GTA04 so aren't quite a drop-in replacement. They do say the 601 will fit 
on the footprint of the 801 though, so they are probably electrically 
compatible.
http://www.option.com/en/products/products/lgamodulegtm801u/

 In my opinion, with only a 3g maserboard, the future freerunner will
 be quickly out of date.

 Whath's your opinion ?

Any low volume product that isn't backed by a big corporate is going to be a 
bit behind the times simply because the manufacturers won't release 

That said, the 4G issue looks like a relatively easy problem to solve. Getting 
the economics to work seems to be the biggest hurdle at the moment.
 
 Best regards
 
 mparchet


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openphoenux review on mobilejournal.net

2012-10-30 Thread urodelo

...hard hitting the gta04

It's in Italian language

http://www.mobilejournal.net/produttori/openphoenux-2804-lo-smartphone-opensource-vale-749-euro-11911

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Re: openphoenux review on mobilejournal.net

2012-10-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 30.10.2012 um 17:48 schrieb urodelo:

 ...hard hitting the gta04
 
 It's in Italian language
 
 http://www.mobilejournal.net/produttori/openphoenux-2804-lo-smartphone-opensource-vale-749-euro-11911

Tnx for the link!

I have used Google translation and hope that I did understand it correctly...

Well, they argue a little like that e.g. a Ferrari isn't worth its price if you 
take the value of the metal, leather and other components.
And it has not its value because there are cheaper cars which give you more 
comfortable driving and space for your family...

They are right that the price is high. They simply forget production cost for 
small batches and compare to the price of
mass production under unknown working conditions in unknown production sites. 
This is similar to what drives the
Ferrari to its high cost. AFAIK, they are hand made.

The key problem is getting down the price. And the only way is to get to bigger 
production batches.

We can moan about that (like this article) or do something...

Nikolaus


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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-30 Thread Brian DeRocher

Dave and all,

If qtopiamail uses libssl, we should brace ourselves for crappy error 
messages :)


I forgot to mention that my IMAP server uses a certificate signed by 
cacert.org.  The signing certificate cert is in the ca-certificates 
package.  I verified the certificate using a command like openssl 
verify -cafile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt my-imap-cert.pem.  I 
did that on my imap server.  I should try again on the freerunner.


I can dive into some source code.  Can someone point me to some 
directions on getting a qtmoko environment set up to compile packages?  
If qtmoko follows normal debian conventions, i should be able to 
diagnose some stuff.


As a side note.  When i select TLS, i'm not sure it's being saved.  If i 
recall correctly, the qtopiamail config file just said encryption type = 
2, whatever that means.  When i edit account information it just shows 
up blank.  When i select SSL, and save, then edit account info, the form 
appears with SSL picked.


The lack of ca-certificates package may be intentional.  After all, how 
do we know it is securely delivered to us.  On the other hand, if i 
download Firefox and it comes with n cert signing certificates, how do i 
know they are secure?  But i digress.


I haven't tried SMTP yet, but when i do, i'll post results here.

Brian

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-30 Thread Radek Polak
On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 03:58:33 AM Brian DeRocher wrote:

 I can dive into some source code.  Can someone point me to some
 directions on getting a qtmoko environment set up to compile packages?
 If qtmoko follows normal debian conventions, i should be able to
 diagnose some stuff.

Hi,
the build instructions are in README file on github repo:

https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/README

Currently i am working on upgrading to latest Qt so you might have to try 
checkout v48 tag instead of master.

It would be easiest to build just qtopiamail - e.g. create QtCreator project 
for it, but unfortunately qtopiamail is quite big and tight to rest of QtMoko, 
so it's not easy to separate it like that.

Regards

Radek

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