Re: Problems using recent Rogers Wireless (Canada) SIMs in GTA02
I have an update. I picked up yesterday a pre-paid FIDO SIM Card (Microcell/FIDO was the first GSM provider in Canada and was subsequently acquired by Rogers Wireless). The FIDO SIM card was able to see FIDO was a carrier under Android 2.2 and do Voice + SMS, but getting GPRS working turned out to be elusive (i.e. many wasted hours). We installed SHR instead and... presto the GPRS worked effortlessly with GPRS settings: server: internet.fido.ca username: fido password: fido . Android was apparently too dumb to deal with this this simple setting. It remains quite a mystery as to why Roger's current 3G SIM isn't working in the GTA02. We're going to stockpile some current FIDO 3G/4G SIMs at $10 each, cheap insurance versus being stuck in the future with devices that can't do GPRS. We have *not* tested any FIDO LTE SIMs yet for compatibility. -Pascal www.wi-flight.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems using recent Rogers Wireless (Canada) SIMs in GTA02
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:48:12 +0100 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: Have you tried the new SIM in any other 2G-only phone? SIMs from 3(UK network) seem to work only in 3G-capable devices. I never looked into how or why, but it's possible Rogers are doing this with new SIMs either by accident or design. On Wednesday 26 September 2012 21:53:14 Pascal Gosselin wrote: In 2010, we were able to take circa mid-2008 Roger Wireless SIMs (Canada) borrowed from an iPhone 3G and get it to work in Android Froyo on the GTA02 850Mhz. Two years later, we decided to add some GPRS reporting capability to our Wi-Flight product which is currently using Wi-Fi only, we are unable to get a carrier registration at the AT command level using two Rogers SIMs (both from 2012, one used in an iPhone 4 and the other in a Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket (LTE)). The GSM baseband code was at Moko8 so we had the fix for bug 666. We tried Moko11 but it didn't make a difference. We repeated the same Android Froyo setup and indeed it doesn't work when we try the circa 2012 SIMs. What's your setup exactly? Our product doesn't run on Android, the Froyo stuff was just tried to attempt to replicate something that worked before. I found a working older Rogers full-sized SIM from my GSM-enabled alarm system, which I think it at least 3-4 years old. It worked just fine in a Nexus S and I was able to send an SMS and Edge data from the phone (it's a T-mobile AWS phone so no 3G on Rogers). The conclusion so far is that something has changed in the Rogers SIMs that makes it incompatible with the GTA02. I am wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem. I'd be happy to be able to get a Fido-branded card to work (haven't tried that yet). We've repeated the same issue with a half-dozen GTA02s so we're pretty sure it's not a one-off phone problem. Maybe you could try to debug it with simtrace(the hardware for tracing SIM communications, that is compatible with wireshark 1.8)? However if it's a problem with the modem firmware it would be hard to fix, one may think that there is osmocombb, but *selling* phones with osmocombb preinstalled may not be legal in your jurisdiction(I'm not a lawyer tough...). In that case I guess you would need to switch to another GNU/Linux phone(such as a GTA04, or another phone supported by SHR for instance,but that means that you'll probably have some availability issues(you'll need to find a reliable way to get such phone in the long run...)). Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems using recent Rogers Wireless (Canada) SIMs in GTA02
Have you tried the new SIM in any other 2G-only phone? SIMs from 3(UK network) seem to work only in 3G-capable devices. I never looked into how or why, but it's possible Rogers are doing this with new SIMs either by accident or design. On Wednesday 26 September 2012 21:53:14 Pascal Gosselin wrote: In 2010, we were able to take circa mid-2008 Roger Wireless SIMs (Canada) borrowed from an iPhone 3G and get it to work in Android Froyo on the GTA02 850Mhz. Two years later, we decided to add some GPRS reporting capability to our Wi-Flight product which is currently using Wi-Fi only, we are unable to get a carrier registration at the AT command level using two Rogers SIMs (both from 2012, one used in an iPhone 4 and the other in a Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket (LTE)). The GSM baseband code was at Moko8 so we had the fix for bug 666. We tried Moko11 but it didn't make a difference. We repeated the same Android Froyo setup and indeed it doesn't work when we try the circa 2012 SIMs. Our product doesn't run on Android, the Froyo stuff was just tried to attempt to replicate something that worked before. I found a working older Rogers full-sized SIM from my GSM-enabled alarm system, which I think it at least 3-4 years old. It worked just fine in a Nexus S and I was able to send an SMS and Edge data from the phone (it's a T-mobile AWS phone so no 3G on Rogers). The conclusion so far is that something has changed in the Rogers SIMs that makes it incompatible with the GTA02. I am wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem. I'd be happy to be able to get a Fido-branded card to work (haven't tried that yet). We've repeated the same issue with a half-dozen GTA02s so we're pretty sure it's not a one-off phone problem. -Pascal +---+ Pascal Gosselin President Wi-Flight pas...@wi-flight.net cell (514) 298-3343 office (450) 676-6299 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Problems using recent Rogers Wireless (Canada) SIMs in GTA02
In 2010, we were able to take circa mid-2008 Roger Wireless SIMs (Canada) borrowed from an iPhone 3G and get it to work in Android Froyo on the GTA02 850Mhz. Two years later, we decided to add some GPRS reporting capability to our Wi-Flight product which is currently using Wi-Fi only, we are unable to get a carrier registration at the AT command level using two Rogers SIMs (both from 2012, one used in an iPhone 4 and the other in a Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket (LTE)). The GSM baseband code was at Moko8 so we had the fix for bug 666. We tried Moko11 but it didn't make a difference. We repeated the same Android Froyo setup and indeed it doesn't work when we try the circa 2012 SIMs. Our product doesn't run on Android, the Froyo stuff was just tried to attempt to replicate something that worked before. I found a working older Rogers full-sized SIM from my GSM-enabled alarm system, which I think it at least 3-4 years old. It worked just fine in a Nexus S and I was able to send an SMS and Edge data from the phone (it's a T-mobile AWS phone so no 3G on Rogers). The conclusion so far is that something has changed in the Rogers SIMs that makes it incompatible with the GTA02. I am wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem. I'd be happy to be able to get a Fido-branded card to work (haven't tried that yet). We've repeated the same issue with a half-dozen GTA02s so we're pretty sure it's not a one-off phone problem. -Pascal +---+ Pascal Gosselin President Wi-Flight pas...@wi-flight.net cell (514) 298-3343 office (450) 676-6299 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
