Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
Michael Shiloh wrote: Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of the pouches sent in one of his shipments. Giving us OpenMokos's first taste of... Pooch pouch poaching. *Double Groan!* Now I suppose you all want a video of my dog chewing up the pouch, right? Although I don't think her process could be considered reverse engineering. M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community The reverse engineering will most likely be the stage after the pouch went through the digestive systems. First post btw :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
Tilman Baumann wrote: Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote: Getting to the debug port, at least as described in the wiki, needs both the torx screwdriver and the guitar pick. Ah, so this is what the pick is for. Thx. Remove the back Undo the torx Starting at the antenna end, run fingernail along the seams, with moderate pressure. The nail simply pops in at one point. Run it all the way round the circumference of the neo. Job done. I've never bothered getting the pick out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Dylan Semler escreveu: Wait, no guitar pick? Shouldn't you get the guitar pick with the debug board, since its main use is to plug the debug board? It makes more sense than putting it in the phone box. This, of course, leads to a separate question: what will ship in the debug board's box? It should have more free space in the box, since the board is smaller than the phone. -- Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan Semler escreveu: Wait, no guitar pick? Shouldn't you get the guitar pick with the debug board, since its main use is to plug the debug board? It makes more sense than putting it in the phone box. This, of course, leads to a separate question: what will ship in the debug board's box? It should have more free space in the box, since the board is smaller than the phone. -- Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you need to open the case to insert the battery, the SIM card and the SD card? Or am I mistaken here? Do you need to remove another panel to get to the debug board connector? Antoine -- Antoine Reid ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Antoine Reid wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan Semler escreveu: Wait, no guitar pick? Shouldn't you get the guitar pick with the debug board, since its main use is to plug the debug board? It makes more sense than putting it in the phone box. Don't you need to open the case to insert the battery, the SIM card and the SD card? Or am I mistaken here? Do you need to remove another panel to get to the debug board connector? This was at least so with the Neo 1973. The battery, SIM and MMC compartment is easily to open with bare fingers. (Really, you don't need the guitar pick) If you lost your fingernails in a horrible freak accident or any other reason, you could use anything else thin. :) Going down to the debug port needs a torx screwdriver anyway. The guitar pick is a nice nerdy idea. But completely useless. *g* Regards Tilman ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
Tilman Baumann escreveu: Antoine Reid wrote: Don't you need to open the case to insert the battery, the SIM card and the SD card? Or am I mistaken here? Do you need to remove another panel to get to the debug board connector? This was at least so with the Neo 1973. The battery, SIM and MMC compartment is easily to open with bare fingers. (Really, you don't need the guitar pick) If you lost your fingernails in a horrible freak accident or any other reason, you could use anything else thin. :) Going down to the debug port needs a torx screwdriver anyway. The guitar pick is a nice nerdy idea. But completely useless. *g* Getting to the debug port, at least as described in the wiki, needs both the torx screwdriver and the guitar pick. You are opening the front cover for that, not the back cover (which can be opened with your fingers alone, and is where the battery is). See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973#Carefully_remove_top_cover for the details. -- Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote: Getting to the debug port, at least as described in the wiki, needs both the torx screwdriver and the guitar pick. Ah, so this is what the pick is for. Thx. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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yes, is my favorite word -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Maxious Sadleir Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:34 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 There's vector (EPS format?) logos and the conditions for using them on the wiki; http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy Note that for most community purposes (creating software or community webpages) the artwork is free to use but explicit permission is required for several cases including Any commercial use and Use for merchandising purposes, e.g. on t-shirts and the like.. On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Paul Jimenez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Related to making openmoko gear - is there vector art of the logo somewhere? I checked the wiki and couldn't find a reference, and checked downloads.openmoko.com and again came up empty. Inquiring minds want to know! Also, if it is published, we'd probably want some kind of license to use it that we could show to the printer/manufacturer we wanted to use... My personal idea was to talk to the guys at skoobadesign(.com) and see what kind of surchage there'd be to get a moko-branded small RAPS to use as a pouch since the moko's not going to ship with one. What's Openmoko's stance on the community using thier logo, maybe even creating Openmoko branded items? --pj On Monday, Apr 21, 2008, Michael Shiloh writes: Daniel Barkalow wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, steve wrote: The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. When Michael gets his photos done, or my spawn get their video done, then you will see that we have greatly reduced the size of the box. Partly for aesthetics, and partly to create a product where I could pack 10 phones boxes in a bigger box, and then ship that bigger box efficiently. So, I had to optimize some things. Now, I realize that people want accessories. So As this launch gets going I'll put together some ideas, for accessory packs Fundamentally, I would rather that some community member build a business around this. Our marketing materials are open source. So, you can build your own pouches, use our brand, and make a business from accessories. No, no, you should include a sewing pattern for the official pouch in the box. It would be neat to have an official Openmoko pouch for your phone, but it would be even better if that pouch was handmade by each owner for their own phone. Especially if the instructions have configuration options. It's all open, dude. I invite any of you to create a sewing pattern for an Openmoko pouch. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Steve on V5 versus v6
I am headed to the hospital. I need stitches in tongue. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Darwin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 No, no, you should include a sewing pattern for the official pouch in the box. It would be neat to have an official Openmoko pouch for your phone, but it would be even better if that pouch was handmade by each owner for their own phone. Especially if the instructions have configuration options. CAD files, we want CAD files for the pouch, so we can machine-cut them!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Steve on V5 versus v6
Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. hehe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Barkalow Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: Steve on V5 versus v6 On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, steve wrote: The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. When Michael gets his photos done, or my spawn get their video done, then you will see that we have greatly reduced the size of the box. Partly for aesthetics, and partly to create a product where I could pack 10 phones boxes in a bigger box, and then ship that bigger box efficiently. So, I had to optimize some things. Now, I realize that people want accessories. So As this launch gets going I'll put together some ideas, for accessory packs Fundamentally, I would rather that some community member build a business around this. Our marketing materials are open source. So, you can build your own pouches, use our brand, and make a business from accessories. No, no, you should include a sewing pattern for the official pouch in the box. It would be neat to have an official Openmoko pouch for your phone, but it would be even better if that pouch was handmade by each owner for their own phone. Especially if the instructions have configuration options. -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of the pouches sent in one of his shipments. Giving us OpenMokos's first taste of... Pooch pouch poaching. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of the pouches sent in one of his shipments. Giving us OpenMokos's first taste of... Pooch pouch poaching. ... leaving a lovely mess in Michael's yard in the first case of pooch pouch poaching pooping ? Sorry, couldn't help myself. -id ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. *Groan!* ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of the pouches sent in one of his shipments. Giving us OpenMokos's first taste of... Pooch pouch poaching. *Double Groan!* Now I suppose you all want a video of my dog chewing up the pouch, right? Although I don't think her process could be considered reverse engineering. M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
ian douglas wrote: Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of the pouches sent in one of his shipments. Giving us OpenMokos's first taste of... Pooch pouch poaching. ... leaving a lovely mess in Michael's yard in the first case of pooch pouch poaching pooping ? Sorry, couldn't help myself. Oh, No! Triple Groan! When will this end??? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable. Sometime down the road I will pull out the Sdcard and try to put in a branded Neo stylus. No promises. Headset, I am working on. No promises. Steve Is the usb cable really needed by most people? There is bluetooth wifi for synching and people could always just go buy one if needed. It's my understanding it will be a standard mini-usb to usb. Somehow I have at least 5 of those sitting in my office. Maybe just tell people in the quickstart guide what kind of cable they'll need to attach usb peripherals or charge from a computer. I think that a usb cable would be easier for people to find buy than headphones with a specific impedance. If the quickstart doesn't have a recommended headphone impedance range one should probably be added - especially since I heard some people were having issues with low headphone volume because of the impedance. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On 20 Apr 2008, at 23:59, Sebastian Reichel wrote: No pouch (better if openmoko brandized), btw? :( I would like to see the pouch in the package, too :( Que but the majority of users never use a pouch and you'd be better off using a $30 iPod sock responses. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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I would like to see the pouch in the package, too :( Que but the majority of users never use a pouch and you'd be better off using a $30 iPod sock responses. Who would say suchs things? Of course I think you *MUST* fit a pony in the box. The freerunner will never be popular without a pony. I got a pony with my last phone and everyone wants a pony! Also you can get much cheaper ponies in Asia then I can around here. So those who don´t want a pony can throw it in the bin or turn it into dinner. Also buying a non-openmoko pony just isn´t the same thing. Even if I can use the openmoko logo to brand the pony myself... -- Steven Kurylo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Steve on V5 versus v6
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, steve wrote: The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. When Michael gets his photos done, or my spawn get their video done, then you will see that we have greatly reduced the size of the box. Partly for aesthetics, and partly to create a product where I could pack 10 phones boxes in a bigger box, and then ship that bigger box efficiently. So, I had to optimize some things. Now, I realize that people want accessories. So As this launch gets going I'll put together some ideas, for accessory packs Fundamentally, I would rather that some community member build a business around this. Our marketing materials are open source. So, you can build your own pouches, use our brand, and make a business from accessories. No, no, you should include a sewing pattern for the official pouch in the box. It would be neat to have an official Openmoko pouch for your phone, but it would be even better if that pouch was handmade by each owner for their own phone. Especially if the instructions have configuration options. -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
Daniel Barkalow wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, steve wrote: The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. When Michael gets his photos done, or my spawn get their video done, then you will see that we have greatly reduced the size of the box. Partly for aesthetics, and partly to create a product where I could pack 10 phones boxes in a bigger box, and then ship that bigger box efficiently. So, I had to optimize some things. Now, I realize that people want accessories. So As this launch gets going I'll put together some ideas, for accessory packs Fundamentally, I would rather that some community member build a business around this. Our marketing materials are open source. So, you can build your own pouches, use our brand, and make a business from accessories. No, no, you should include a sewing pattern for the official pouch in the box. It would be neat to have an official Openmoko pouch for your phone, but it would be even better if that pouch was handmade by each owner for their own phone. Especially if the instructions have configuration options. It's all open, dude. I invite any of you to create a sewing pattern for an Openmoko pouch. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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No, no, you should include a sewing pattern for the official pouch in the box. It would be neat to have an official Openmoko pouch for your phone, but it would be even better if that pouch was handmade by each owner for their own phone. Especially if the instructions have configuration options. CAD files, we want CAD files for the pouch, so we can machine-cut them!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
steve wrote: The phone fits snuggly in a bed of foam, carved precisely to fit its form. Well, looking at the photos taken by Michael (coverOffTrayRemoved*.jpg and coverTrayTriangle*.jpg first of all) it seems that under the phone's bed of foam there's enough space for pushing a pouch, isn't it? And what about not shipping all the kinds of plugs (most of us would need only the one used in their country)? But I like you Marco, So send me your address on my openmoko mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I give you my pouch. Many thanks! I've sent my address, anyway I hope all the Freerunner buyers will get one :). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
Related to making openmoko gear - is there vector art of the logo somewhere? I checked the wiki and couldn't find a reference, and checked downloads.openmoko.com and again came up empty. Inquiring minds want to know! Also, if it is published, we'd probably want some kind of license to use it that we could show to the printer/manufacturer we wanted to use... My personal idea was to talk to the guys at skoobadesign(.com) and see what kind of surchage there'd be to get a moko-branded small RAPS to use as a pouch since the moko's not going to ship with one. What's Openmoko's stance on the community using thier logo, maybe even creating Openmoko branded items? --pj On Monday, Apr 21, 2008, Michael Shiloh writes: Daniel Barkalow wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, steve wrote: The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. When Michael gets his photos done, or my spawn get their video done, then you will see that we have greatly reduced the size of the box. Partly for aesthetics, and partly to create a product where I could pack 10 phones boxes in a bigger box, and then ship that bigger box efficiently. So, I had to optimize some things. Now, I realize that people want accessories. So As this launch gets going I'll put together some ideas, for accessory packs Fundamentally, I would rather that some community member build a business around this. Our marketing materials are open source. So, you can build your own pouches, use our brand, and make a business from accessories. No, no, you should include a sewing pattern for the official pouch in the box. It would be neat to have an official Openmoko pouch for your phone, but it would be even better if that pouch was handmade by each owner for their own phone. Especially if the instructions have configuration options. It's all open, dude. I invite any of you to create a sewing pattern for an Openmoko pouch. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
There's vector (EPS format?) logos and the conditions for using them on the wiki; http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy Note that for most community purposes (creating software or community webpages) the artwork is free to use but explicit permission is required for several cases including Any commercial use and Use for merchandising purposes, e.g. on t-shirts and the like.. On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Paul Jimenez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Related to making openmoko gear - is there vector art of the logo somewhere? I checked the wiki and couldn't find a reference, and checked downloads.openmoko.com and again came up empty. Inquiring minds want to know! Also, if it is published, we'd probably want some kind of license to use it that we could show to the printer/manufacturer we wanted to use... My personal idea was to talk to the guys at skoobadesign(.com) and see what kind of surchage there'd be to get a moko-branded small RAPS to use as a pouch since the moko's not going to ship with one. What's Openmoko's stance on the community using thier logo, maybe even creating Openmoko branded items? --pj On Monday, Apr 21, 2008, Michael Shiloh writes: Daniel Barkalow wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, steve wrote: The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. When Michael gets his photos done, or my spawn get their video done, then you will see that we have greatly reduced the size of the box. Partly for aesthetics, and partly to create a product where I could pack 10 phones boxes in a bigger box, and then ship that bigger box efficiently. So, I had to optimize some things. Now, I realize that people want accessories. So As this launch gets going I'll put together some ideas, for accessory packs Fundamentally, I would rather that some community member build a business around this. Our marketing materials are open source. So, you can build your own pouches, use our brand, and make a business from accessories. No, no, you should include a sewing pattern for the official pouch in the box. It would be neat to have an official Openmoko pouch for your phone, but it would be even better if that pouch was handmade by each owner for their own phone. Especially if the instructions have configuration options. It's all open, dude. I invite any of you to create a sewing pattern for an Openmoko pouch. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable. Wait, no guitar pick? -- Type faster. Use Dvorak: http://dvzine.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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We're all going to die!!! On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Dylan Semler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable. Wait, no guitar pick? -- Type faster. Use Dvorak: http://dvzine.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Steve on V5 versus v6
The Guitar pick story is funny. remind me later and I will tell you _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of thomasg Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:02 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 We're all going to die!!! On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Dylan Semler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable. Wait, no guitar pick? -- Type faster. Use Dvorak: http://dvzine.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
Am Montag, den 21.04.2008, 00:28 +0200 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): steve wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable. Sometime down the road I will pull out the Sdcard and try to put in a branded Neo stylus. No promises. No pouch (better if openmoko brandized), btw? :( I would like to see the pouch in the package, too :( signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. When Michael gets his photos done, or my spawn get their video done, then you will see that we have greatly reduced the size of the box. Partly for aesthetics, and partly to create a product where I could pack 10 phones boxes in a bigger box, and then ship that bigger box efficiently. So, I had to optimize some things. Now, I realize that people want accessories. So As this launch gets going I'll put together some ideas, for accessory packs Fundamentally, I would rather that some community member build a business around this. Our marketing materials are open source. So, you can build your own pouches, use our brand, and make a business from accessories. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:29 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 steve wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable. Sometime down the road I will pull out the Sdcard and try to put in a branded Neo stylus. No promises. No pouch (better if openmoko brandized), btw? :( -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Steve on V5 versus v6
Michael and I are talking about using the pouch as a give away in certain venues. But I had to optimize to get the price down to the level I thought people deserved. I'll look into it, The lanyard is also out and I know that maddog will chew my butt because he loves it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 4:00 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 Am Montag, den 21.04.2008, 00:28 +0200 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): steve wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable. Sometime down the road I will pull out the Sdcard and try to put in a branded Neo stylus. No promises. No pouch (better if openmoko brandized), btw? :( I would like to see the pouch in the package, too :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
Give us some information 'bout the power glitches and I'll be happy. Stayin' tuned - thomasg thx. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First some clarification. I have a totally different understanding of the LED situation. So let me check with folks before clarifying. In any case, I will find out the information on the real differences. And also if any apps actually use the LEDS. I know some of the a5/a6 changes were made just to make it easier for us to build. As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable. Sometime down the road I will pull out the Sdcard and try to put in a branded Neo stylus. No promises. Headset, I am working on. No promises. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:49 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto: I agree... There's also another issue to consider: in the marketing threads it was said that the first thousands phones will have more goods in their box, so this makes me think that only people buying a v5 will get these things. My personal position is now quite singular, since I'd like to get the best hardware I can (since I know there's it already) but I also need a phone (but with good power management and so good daily usage) as soon as I can. Well, for me it's important to have a good hardware, if it has some known issue i would prefer that they sould be solved, if this LED bug could be fixed with a simple transistor replacement, this transistor is in the GTA02v5 box and it's possible for a normal guy with a little soldering skills to replace this transistor it's not a problem (read something like if i can do that it's ok :D). If the issue is something that can't be solved it's something that goes opposite of what is GTA02 for, a solid hardware platform. Every commercial product has bug it's not a good point. I'll buy it if it's fixable, waiting for a word from OM :D Cya! Pietro (Despite everything i really like the OM approach!! Go Go OM Guys and remember, may the source be with you!! :D) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
