Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 13:04:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Olivier Blin: It would be nice to upgrade to xmms 1.2.8, there's been a lot of fixes since 1.2.7 was released, about one year and a half ago :-) I'll release an update of my private xmms package synched with 1.2.7-26mdk as soon as klama is back. You might want to take a look at that package and hopefully we can upload it to cooker. It contains quite a few changes: - disable rpath mess - drop patch 2 (libtool fix) - add patch 101 : disk writer file name fix - drop source 101 (1.2.7 translations) - png icons - update patch 100 - drop .la files - add alsa package - drop idc plugin - drop gnome stuff - autoconf2.5 macro - rediff patch 50 - drop patches 19,21,51,101 - rva patch - new version I've rediffed the 3D patch and added the rva patch and a small fix for the disk writer. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 14:19:12 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Cottenceau: I checked pre1 back in august and it broke stuff. Didn't have time to test since then. I've been running 1.2.8 since it's release, the only problem is the alsa plugin, I couldn't get it to work. The Packager tag may be removed, is it still useful to keep one ? Yes. OK, let's leave your name in the package. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 14:35:09 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson: As in 1.2.8? The A-B patch won't apply cleanly to that version. If I'm lucky I may figure it out and apply the patch by hand. I've rediffed that one for 1.2.8, you just have to test it. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] [proposal] contrib process enhancement
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 15:06:30 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: 1) gpg signature of the contrib The problem is that the contrib packages are no official Mandrake packages, so they cannot be signed by an official Mandrakesoft key. But the could be signed by an unofficial key, how about a Guillaume Rousse key :-) 2) unique urpmi database on klama Currently, each time a package has some dependance to build, we have to first check if this dependance is either a contrib or a main package. This is both ugly and unpractical. I want to be able to install foo-devel with a single command, and let the system find where to fetch this package from That's already done, just use sudo ue -u 3) access to incoming Yes, please. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 16:43:26 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson: I've rediffed that one for 1.2.8, you just have to test it. Sure, no problem. Where is it? The source package is in my web home: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/SRPMS/xmms-1.2.8-0.1gpw.src.rpm Binaries will follow. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003, 16:46:24 Uhr MET, schrieb Götz Waschk: The source package is in my web home: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/SRPMS/xmms-1.2.8-0.1gpw.src.rpm The binaries are there: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/10.0 I've tried the a-b stuff, it's working fine. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: none
Am Dienstag, 18. November 2003, 16:27:37 Uhr MET, schrieb Marcel Pol: apps can be arch dependent and since /usr could be shared by NFS, menu entries should be in /usr/lib.. (well, it was Debian rationale for menu location..) But the menufiles are arch-independent. The menu files are arch-independant, but the application in the menu entry can be architecture-dependant. Imagine a menu entry for vmware, that wouldn't make sense on the Linux/PPC machine. I assume it will be fixed when we switch to the freedesktop menufiles proposal. It doesn't list the place for these files however, but it seems a lot like the kde/gnome desktop files that are in /usr/share/app*. So the architecture-dependance of the menu files will be lost? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] juk contrib rpm
Am Montag, 17. November 2003, 00:30:20 Uhr MET, schrieb illogic-al: i know the 3.2 version is there but this is for 3.1. it could always be made to conflict w/ the beta version and removed at install. but i was thinking to make it available for people not on cooker but in contrib sources That's not a good idea, as the contribs are always synched to the current cooker. The Mandrake club repository is the right place for your package. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Ooo and bold fonts
Am Montag, 17. November 2003, 11:43:23 Uhr MET, schrieb Pascal Cavy: I have some problems with OpenOffice.org freezing when I use bold fonts with Times, for example. Anyone else having the same problem ? No problems here. But I have to use OOo on a remote X display that doesn't support the X extensions for render. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b
Am Samstag, 15. November 2003, 19:38:41 Uhr MET, schrieb Per Lindström: k3b advised me to run k3bsetup to fix a few problems, but k3bsetup is not installed. libk3b1 on the other hand installs /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la and /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so. $ k3bsetup bash: k3bsetup: command not found From the changelog: * Mi Sep 03 2003 Laurent MONTEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.9-8mdk - Remove entry k3bsetup not necessary So it doesn't seem to be necessary. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 4983] [mplayer] Patch for sami subtitle
Am Freitag, 14. November 2003, 14:36:05 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson: fredagen den 14 november 2003 14.27 skrev [waschk]: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4983 What does that mean? Subtitles in the Sami language? ;) If people in Korea speak that one, then yes :-) -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 4983] [mplayer] Patch for sami subtitle
Am Freitag, 14. November 2003, 14:51:08 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson: No, it's people living around where I live. We also call it Lapish. These are Laplanders or Sami/Sapmi/Saami. More info here: http://www.same.net/ Yes, I know that, that's why I've used a smiley too. They wear some funny looking wool caps, don't they? But I guess you need some warm clothes too most of the time. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] gtk2 file selector
Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2003, 19:00:04 Uhr MET, schrieb Bellegarde Cédric: I'm using this patch since the last discussion on mailing list. All my gtk/gnome apps works perfectly :) Did you have to rebuild everything? On my machine, all gtk2 apps crashed. BTW please fix your quoting. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gdesklets-0.24.1-1mdk
Am Dienstag, 11. November 2003, 09:37:26 Uhr MET, schrieb Curtis Hildebrand: Shouldn't this be gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org? The sourceforge site has version 0.13 as the latest. Right, next time. Thanks, Götz -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] gtk2 file selector
Am Dienstag, 11. November 2003, 18:43:07 Uhr MET, schrieb Bellegarde Cédric: So, no gnome 2.6 in mandrake 10.0 :-/ maybee, we should use this patch, test it in cooker and put it in 10.0 if stable. http://members1.chello.nl/~h.lai/gtkenhancements/ I've already tried that one, it made all gtk+2 apps crash :-( This was discussed on the list a few months ago, just search the archives. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] idea for MDK 10: rpm packages compatibility
Am Dienstag, 11. November 2003, 07:15:42 Uhr MET, schrieb Keld Jørn Simonsen: One thing I would like to see for MDK 10: That RedHat, Fedora, SuSE and other rpm packages be installabla on MDK systems. I dont know what analyses is needed to do that, but it is probably something with compatibility libraries. Or maybe it is something to do about having packages follow LSB. Hi, it's not as easy as you think. All the distributions have different libraries, different paths, differents configuration systems, package names, menu systems, ... I have some experience in supporting packages for several versions of Mandrake which is hard enough, as rpm macros change and there are bugs you have to work around and so on. There's the jpackage.org project which produces Java packages for Red Hat and Mandrake. They have to do lots of voodoo to make this work, basically you have to use only the common feature subset of both distributions or emulate the missing stuff, like the update-alternatives system. They have only 2 distributions and most of their stuff is architecture-independant, go figure. If you want packages to be compatible between more than one distribution you have to sacrifice features, but where's the benefit? There's almost everything available for Mandrake, if something's missing, I or somebody else from this list will add it, unless it's some closed source commercial stuff you shouldn't use anyway. CU, Götz -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Cooker's forums ?
Am Dienstag, 11. November 2003, 14:45:29 Uhr MET, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's maybe an old talking theme, but mailing lists are not very easy to use. A forum could be better and more easy to find the things we wants to see. What is the general advice ? Why there's not already a forum? I strongly disagree. Forums are much harder to use, each has it's own web interface. A mailing list can be filtered with the usual mail tools and I can archive the postings I want to keep. If you want a forum version of the cooker list, you can use gmane.org. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] file-roller rebuild problem
Am Dienstag, 11. November 2003, 16:01:04 Uhr MET, schrieb Frederik Himpe: When I try to rebuild file-roller-2.4.2-1mdk under Mandrake 9.2, this error occurs: GCONF_CONFIG_SOURCE=xml::/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults /usr/bin/gconftool-2 --makefile-install-rule ./file-roller.schemasFailed: Failed to write file `/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/apps/file-roller/general/%gconf.xml.tmp': Permission denied . Thanks, I'll fix it. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] yelp-pregenerate
Am Samstag, 8. November 2003, 07:33:23 Uhr MET, schrieb Charles A Edwards: installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gedit-2.4.1-1mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... 43:gedit /usr/share/sgml/docbook/yelp/yelp-custom.xsl:18: namespace error : Namespace prefix doc for type on param is not defined xsl:param name=graphic.default.extension select='png' doc:type=string/ I've noticed that too for a few other packages. Do you know how the help files have changed? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Circular dependency (vcdimager and libcdio)
Am Samstag, 8. November 2003, 18:05:01 Uhr MET, schrieb Jose Antonio Becerra Permuy: Is this ok? [EMAIL PROTECTED] SRPMS]$ rpm --rebuild vcdimager-0.7.19-1mdk.src.rpm Installing vcdimager-0.7.19-1mdk.src.rpm warning: user goetz does not exist - using root warning: group goetz does not exist - using root warning: user goetz does not exist - using root warning: group goetz does not exist - using root error: Failed build dependencies: libcdio-devel = 0.64 is needed by vcdimager-0.7.19-1mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] SRPMS]$ rpm --rebuild libcdio-0.64-2mdk.src.rpm Installing libcdio-0.64-2mdk.src.rpm warning: user goetz does not exist - using root warning: group goetz does not exist - using root warning: user goetz does not exist - using root warning: group goetz does not exist - using root error: Failed build dependencies: libvcd-devel = 0.7.19 is needed by libcdio-0.64-2mdk It's OK. libcdio has a switch in the spec file, so you can build it first with the --without vcdimager option (or something like that, can't remember this right now). -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla 1.5 ? 1.6 Alpha is already out . . .
Am Freitag, 7. November 2003, 10:19:08 Uhr MET, schrieb Frederic Crozat: On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:55:41 +0100, Robert Fox wrote: When is Cooker going to get the latest stable Mozilla (1.5)? When I have time.. Cooker will have (in that order) : 1.4.1, then 1.5 then 1.6alpha.. Skip that 1.6alpha, at least for me it's really really broken. I've only tested it yet on Windows, but the mail program was unusable. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mplayer-1.0-0.pre2.1mdk
Am Freitag, 7. November 2003, 11:30:53 Uhr MET, schrieb Gwenole Beauchesne: -# Only support those arches for DHA at the moment -%define vidix_arches %{ix86} ppc - -%define buildfor_mdk82 %(awk '{print ($4 = 8.2)}' %{_sysconfdir}/mandrake-release) [...] If you would have looked further down the diff, you would have noticed that the vidix stuff has just moved in the spec file, but the mdk82 stuff was dropped, as I don't maintain mdk 8.2 backports anymore. CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mplayer-1.0-0.pre2.1mdk
Am Freitag, 7. November 2003, 12:15:51 Uhr MET, schrieb Gwenole Beauchesne: I return you the comment since you still haven't noticed it: the %ifarch %{vidix_arches} disappeared from the filelist. OK. 1:0 for Gwenole, I'm fixing it. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] dia segfault when exporting with builtin eps converter
Am Freitag, 7. November 2003, 12:47:01 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: [EMAIL PROTECTED] presentation]$ dia --export-to-format=eps-builtin schema_general.dia - segfault [EMAIL PROTECTED] presentation]$ dia -e schema_general.eps schema_general.dia - works The first one worked yesterday, and i urgently need it :-) There's no such format: -t, --export-to-format=FORMAT Export to file format and exit. Supported formats are: cgm, dia, dxf, eps, eps-pango, fig, mp, plt, hpgl, png, shape, svg, tex, wpg It also crashes if you specify something like eps-xxxbuildtin, it will always crash. BTW what's wrong with the output from the 2nd command line? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.5/2.6 and cooker
Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2003, 19:30:37 Uhr MET, schrieb Abel Cheung: I haven't yet decided if I'll push GTK+ 2.4 in cooker, but ATM, I won't push 2.3.0 since it is not yet stable and I don't see any new release of software using it.. Does this mean that, if GTK+ 2.4 is out and binary compatible with 2.2 (I mean if GNOME 2.4 runs fine under GTK+ 2.4), then you may put 2.4 into cooker later? Sorry for ignorance, I didn't follow gtk+ development... I think that's what he was trying to say. ATM gtk+2.3 isn't very compatible with gtk+2.2, but I hope this will change. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.5/2.6 and cooker
Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2003, 12:36:12 Uhr MET, schrieb Thierry Vignaud: I think that's what he was trying to say. ATM gtk+2.3 isn't very compatible with gtk+2.2, but I hope this will change. it does be (i'm currently using it) I've reverted to gtk+2.2 on my box, because there were several problems with gtk+2.3, e.g. my top panel was moving down the screen over the bottom panel. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons
Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2003, 16:47:28 Uhr MET, schrieb Pascal Terjan: Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What else would make Mandrake a more attractive workplace for you? I don't understand. Maybe he plans to provide you with nice girls bringing coffee or tea to your desk :-) What a typical macho opinion. I rather prefer the nice girls who can write good code. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: No more fpons
Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2003, 17:14:42 Uhr MET, schrieb Pascal Terjan: Götz Waschk wrote: What a typical macho opinion. I rather prefer the nice girls who can write good code. I would prefer too, but it's really more difficult to find :-) Depends on where you're looking. When I was a CS student, there were almost no females, but this has changed a bit. In my Processor Architecture class there is 1/3 female students, so there might be a new generation of coding girls. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xscreensaver-4.14-1mdk
Am Dienstag, 4. November 2003, 22:23:53 Uhr MET, schrieb Christian Bricart: -%define enable_xmatrix 0 -%define enable_extrusion 0 +%define enable_xmatrix 1 +%define enable_extrusion 1 Oops..? xmatrix is back in main? No license conflict anymore..? Or is it just in for the premiere of Revolutions tomorrow..? :) Oh fuck, I haven't changed my private package back for the Cooker release. I'll remove these two in the 2mdk release. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xscreensaver-4.14-1mdk
Am Mittwoch, 5. November 2003, 10:12:25 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: Could you also add an additional plf switch, triggering all of these individual ones, and provide a plf build ? What would you prefer, an additional subpackage for extrusion and the 2 matrix savers or a plf package of xscreensaver with these included? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] xmms-sid-0.8.0-0.beta5.3mdk
Am Mittwoch, 5. November 2003, 12:29:32 Uhr MET, schrieb Adam Williamson: Do we really need two xmms SID plugins, both based on libsidplay? Is there some significant difference between them? Yes, there are. Try them. Here's one difference: xmms-sid supports libsidplay2, but you cannot select the subsongs yet. In xmms-sidplay you can change the subsong with the progress bar. Once xmms-sid has this feature as well, we can drop xmms-sidplay. CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] FHS 2.3 (fwd)
Am Mittwoch, 5. November 2003, 09:50:21 Uhr MET, schrieb Stew Benedict: OK folks. FHS 2.3 is currently stuggling with a couple of controversial proposals. They would like Mandrake's opinion, as part of what FHS tries to do is formalize current convention. United Linux based distros use these currently. My take is Red Hat is against them. I'm not sure how to reply with a formal Mandrake position, but perhaps posting here will give me more of a feel on how the community views these proposals. I'd like to take a look at this proposals, but the URLs don't work. Can you put these documents somewhere I can access them? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] ANN: synaptics and radeontool
Am Montag, 3. November 2003, 09:22:09 Uhr MET, schrieb Luca Berra: hello, i built rpms of synaptics (the X11 touchpad driver) and radeontool (switch on/off external monitor and laptop backlight) http://www.comedia.it/~bluca/cooker/misc/ they will get into contrib if i don't get any negative feedback, anyone cares to try them? I'll take a look at the radeontool. Unfortunately I only have one monitor, so this might be useless for me :-( -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Updated ATI Kernel Modules
Am Montag, 3. November 2003, 11:39:35 Uhr MET, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Götz, you work to hard:) Any objections if I put them on club (with obsoletes for the in-house version?) You can do everything the license permits. Please don't forget to upload the source rpms to the club. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Updated ATI Kernel Modules
Am Montag, 3. November 2003, 11:04:53 Uhr MET, schrieb Eric Fernandez: Danny, I have open a club request for these drivers http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=RPMfunc=info_pageRID=1611 Maybe you could link them to the entry ? BTW, maybe that would be necessary to rename the patch name to mdk to uniformise, if Gotz doesn't mind ? You mean rename the release suffix from gpw to mdk? BTW I don't like that the club packages have the mdk suffix, as they could be mixed up with official packages. Couldn't this be changed to something else? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Updated ATI Kernel Modules
Am Montag, 3. November 2003, 12:32:58 Uhr MET, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I did start naming everyting version.92mdk to distinguish them from cooker stuff (like we are doing for security updates now). That's a start. I would to raise another point here quickly, but it needs its own thread: shouldn't we force release specific rpms? Too many people are using cooker rpms on stable version. Too many people are using rpms for different versions on their stable version. I've already suggested something like this in a previous thread. I thought about a distribution epoch for all packages, so that official packages are always newer than backported packages. This would need some rpm changes, so that a package built on 9.2 would have an epoch of 92 and one build on 10.0 would have epoch 100. But this would be a problem with packages that already has an epoch, as you can use only integer numbers for the epoch tag. The problem of your naming is that you have to change it by hand. I'd like to rebuild a cooker package on a stable distribution version and have it's release changed automatically. CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] bugzilla package list a bit short
Am Freitag, 31. Oktober 2003, 12:17:04 Uhr MET, schrieb Glenn Burkhardt: I also notice that the link to the stable version bug database is incorrect; it should be http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/ (see screen shot, attached). Arrgh, could you please avoid attachments on this list? Some people use a modem to read the cooker list. Thanks, Götz -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] bugzilla package list a bit short
Am Freitag, 31. Oktober 2003, 10:47:49 Uhr MET, schrieb Glenn Burkhardt: How does one report a bug to specific packages on Bugzilla? The list of packages is a bit short, as compared to the query page. I'd like to submit a bug for the xfig package. You're right, the package list is currently broken. You'll have to wait for someone fixing this. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select + recompile from src.rpm
Am Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2003, 13:06:51 Uhr MET, schrieb Tomasz Chmielewski: I was wondering, if there is some way to upgrade (or install) new packages form src.rpm source packages, rather than from precompiled i586.rpm packages, with the ease urpmi provides, so that one could fully benefit from his/her CPU. I doubt there would be much benefit from this approach. What I mean, if there is some script, that would download new src.rpm packages from let's say cooker, recompile them for a given architecture, and than install. There's rpm-rebuilder in main, maybe it can be tweaked somehow. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?
Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 09:48:37 Uhr MET, schrieb Brook Humphrey: [wxPythonGTK test package] it works fine with abc (another bittorent gui). I don't know that one, is it worth packaging it? It did not work with audacity as your version of wxgtk is older than what audacity wants. Audacity wants 2.5 and you are using 2.4 but as stated abc works like it ever did with it. It's not supposed to work, you're mixing this up with the wxGTK package. wxPythonGTK comes with it's own version of the wxGTK library in a private directory location, so it is only usable by wxPythonGTK and not by other wxGTK apps. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] xine-vcdx-1-0.rc2.1mdk
Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 11:59:01 Uhr MET, schrieb Adam Williamson: This should be complement, not compliment. Two different words. Thanks, I'll update the description. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?
Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 17:49:13 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne: But, Mozilla is built with gtk2, and for some odd reason wxPython is built with gtk1.x (whereas wxGTK is built against gtk2). wxMozilla won't build the Python bits if the versions of gtk2 used don't match. And documancer needs the Python bits of wxMozilla it seems. Is there a good reason for this? The readme said so, because it's still beta. I can change this to gtk2 in the next package, but we should test this first. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?
Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 18:17:45 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne: The readme said so, because it's still beta. I can change this to gtk2 in the next package, but we should test this first. I'm going home now, so I will try it on 9.1 with gtk2 (see if I can build wxmozilla and documancer), and try it on cooker tomorrow (and some other wxPython stuff, wxGlade should be enough to test it well I think?). At least things will look better ... I've prepared some untested packages of wxPythonGTK with gtk2 and unicode support: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake Please give them a try. I'll test them ASAP with nicotine and bittorrent-gui. CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?
Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 17:56:32 Uhr MET, schrieb Götz Waschk: I've prepared some untested packages of wxPythonGTK with gtk2 and unicode support: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake Please give them a try. I'll test them ASAP with nicotine and bittorrent-gui. Bittorrent and pyslsk seem to work fine, but I don't know what will happen if these apps run for a few days. There have been reports of memory holes in the gtk2 builds of amule and xmule, these could also be in wxPythonGTKs wxgtk library. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Conflict between libgc1-devel and graphviz
Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003, 17:47:24 Uhr MET, schrieb Quel Qun: Installation failed: file /usr/share/man/man1/gc.1.bz2 from install of graphviz-1.9.0-6plf conflicts with file from package libgc1-devel-6.2-1mdk The gc man page of libgc1-devel is in the wrong directory. It should be in man3. I'll fix this if noone objects. graphviz will be needed for kdevelop-3, and libgc1 is needed for mono. It would be nice to solve this conflict. This is not good, as graphviz has a restrictive license and can't be moved from plf to mdk. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Mescalero
Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003, 13:20:47 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson: I was able to rip track 2-16 of 1-16 with w2k (yuk) and ez cd extract. It's tragic that no tool exists in Mandrake to accomplish this. But I guess we will see such a tool in the future, maybe at the PLF site? If not one could always claim the tool is for CD repair and restauration. Stuff like this often depends on the CD-ROM drive, it's best to try several models. I haven't found a CD yet that I couldn't copy. I guess the copy protection sticker often is a placebo, if I can simply rip the CD with cdparanoia. http://www.bmg-copycontrol.info/ I know this sucks, I know I should return the CD, but I want to have this CD in my collection. Maybe the non UK releases doesn't have this copy-control shit, I don't know. Don't buy BMG stuff, instead get the tracks from a file sharing network. Let's all force BMG to bankruptcy. If you still want to support the artists, visit their concerts and by the merchandizing products. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] application/x-shockwave-flash
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2003, 00:52:02 Uhr MET, schrieb Ron Stodden: From Sofware Installer (urpmi): Some package requested cannot be installed: flash-plugin-6.0.79-1.i386 (due to unsatisfied libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3) do you agree ? Don't you have the 3rd CD? That package is on the 3rd one. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
Am Montag, 20. Oktober 2003, 14:11:24 Uhr MET, schrieb FACORAT Fabrice: I don't care about the business effects of this, but I think a Linux distribution needs the two most common developer's editors, emacs and vim. But the discovery pack does not need this I don't know the discovery pack, but if it's something to take away the choice from the user and make the desktop even more windows-like, then I don't want it. [screensavers] yes, they increase my screen lifetime ! :p Really, do you have a newer Dell notebook :-) Normal users like toys, normal users like having a beatiful like system/OS, normal users like some fancy screensavers ( look in windows world all the different kind of screensaver you can dl on the net ). Discovery pack is for normal users. I'm not against toys, after all, I've done recent releases of xscreensaver and rss_glx, fireflies and gdesklets for the contribs. But this stuff isn't really useful, so if the space is restricted, useful apps are more important. And please don't mix up normal users with stupid users. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
Am Sonntag, 19. Oktober 2003, 05:27:08 Uhr MET, schrieb Brook Humphrey: you are very sadly mistaken here. The majority or regular windows converts could care less about about emacs. Much less would they be able to figure out how to use the thing properly. Who's more important, the stupid windows convert, or the developer? If you remove emacs from the CD, you'll scare of the developers. No developers means no new software. BTW it's not emacs that is growing and growing and taking away the CD space but the new generations of GUI software, especially KDE. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
The Idea is not weather or not to include them but were to include them. Who are they trying to market with the free download edition. Developers I sure hope not as allot of the devel libs and things that are needed are not really in there. To get a good devel box going you may need libs out of contribs along with the devel counterparts and many other things. It gets even worse if you develop for gnome as a fair amount of gnome libs are in contribs. Hm so if the free version is not geared to developers per say who is it marketed to? It should be first priority to find the target market and target them. I don't care about the business effects of this, but I think a Linux distribution needs the two most common developer's editors, emacs and vim. Without them, you can't take a distribution seriously. Sure, the bootsplash and kde themes toys are important for the first impression, but the usefulness of the included software create the quality of the distribution. What's more useful, GNU emacs, which is God and can do everything, or kde screensavers, which are eye candy but don't increase your productivity. Sure, most people could download the extra stuff, but that's not always possible, for instance I don't have an internet connection in my home machine. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Setting BitTorrent up for upload only from unauth. IPs?
Am Freitag, 17. Oktober 2003, 09:34:51 Uhr MET, schrieb Brad Felmey: I pulled my 3 CDs at work (which is actually slower than at home). I'd like to set up home to continuously run and share, but I don't know how to set this up. It's a different static IP, so the torrent file downloaded at work won't work. Any ideas? I'd like to share, just can't figure out how to do so. You can download the Club's torrent file again, our you could share it at some other site. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Fluxbox tripping up Menudrake?
Am Sonntag, 12. Oktober 2003, 20:40:46 Uhr MET, schrieb Greg Meyer: I am having trouble posting this on bugzilla, so I apologize for spamming this to the maintainers. My hunch is that this is a problem with the fluxbox packaging, especially since a recent entry in the fluxbox specfile was to add menu entries. I can confirm this problem, but it should be fixed in 0.9.6-0.pre9_1mdk. Can you test it with that package version? It's possible you have to remove some broken entries from /etc/menu and ~/.menu before it will work again. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mplayer-0.91-8mdk
Am Montag, 13. Oktober 2003, 13:26:03 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: Ainsi parlait Gwenole Beauchesne : Note: If you want to play Real content, you need to have the content of RealPlayer's Codecs directory in /usr/lib64/RealPlayer8/Codecs Hmmm, there is a PLF real codecs package now, it would make more sense to add the amd64 codecs there and drop this additional paragraph. Hi, the plf builds depend on the real-codecs package, but there are no realplayer codecs for amd64 yet, aren't they? This PLF build has additional support for AAC decoding with libfaad, which is covered by software patents. It also includes support for reading DVDs encrypted with CSS which might be illegal in some countries. Is this really wise to have this paragraph available even for standard build? Sure it's more useful, but it's a bit too much sensible. It would be safer to have it only in PLF build IMHO. Thanks for spotting this, it's a bug in the description, I'll fix it for the mplayer1.0 package. I hope I can drop the mplayer 0.9x package ASAP. CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gimp1_3-1.3.21-2mdk
Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2003, 14:13:04 Uhr MET, schrieb Charles A Edwards: `/home/charles/rpm/BUILD/gimp-1.3.21/data/misc' sed -e 's|.[{]prefix[}]|/usr|' gimp.desktop.in desktop-foo \ ../../po desktop-foo gimp.desktop -d -u -c ../../po/.intltool-merge-cachemake \ rm -r desktop-foo/bin/sh: line 1: ../../po: is a directory make[3]: *** [gimp.desktop] Error 126 make[3]: Leaving directory It was missing the buildrequires: intltool, I've fixed that in 2mdk. CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] out of freeze?
Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2003, 11:04:19 Uhr MET, schrieb Vincent Meyer, MD: So can I gather from the 50+ messages in my changelog mailing list folder that we're out of freeze now? No. They are all contrib packages and the contribs were never frozen but forked for the 9.2 release. The big bunch of changelog mails came from the restarted mailing list software, just look at the dates of the packages. CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] security updates, 9.2 and cooker
Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2003, 11:24:35 Uhr MET, schrieb Dariusz Sznajder: Will security updates be applied to Mandrake-devel/cooker, too? Or should I add 9.2 updates to my sources config? Yes, do this. Cooker can only be updated after it will be unfrozen. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] need clarification on dynamic usb storage device and supermount
Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2003, 12:25:25 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne: Your hotplug is broken. AFAIK, hotplug can't detect the removal of USB storage devices, so my fstab entry for it stays until the next boot (AFAICT). Yes, but it seems to work fine for me with the 2.6.0test kernel. It removes the /dev/sda1 device upon removal of the USB stick. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] security update time...
Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2003, 12:29:37 Uhr MET, schrieb Adam Williamson: http://www.uniras.gov.uk/vuls/2003/006489/openssl.htm Do you mean this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] upload]$ rpm -q openssl openssl-0.9.7b-4.1.92mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] upload]$ rpm -q --changelog openssl|head * Mi Okt 01 2003 Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.9.7b-4.1.92mdk - security fixes: CAN-2003-0543, CAN-2003-0544, CAN-2003-0545 -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] need clarification on dynamic usb storage device and supermount
Am Dienstag, 30. September 2003, 18:45:07 Uhr MET, schrieb Pascal Cavy: 4. How do I disconnect cleanly this device from the desktop now that is automatically mounted ? I cannot unmount it from the kde icon since the user option is not in /etc/fstab It should be possible to simply remove the usb stick, I mean that's what supermount was written for. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] bittorrent-3.3-2gpw - please test
Am Samstag, 27. September 2003, 22:30:44 Uhr MET, schrieb jokerman64: On Saturday 27 September 2003 17:46, Adam Williamson wrote: diff -au f diff is attached Doesn't look suspicious. Does it work with one of the versions? I've only tested it with the kde from 9.2 and the latest official bittorrent package, there were no problems. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] mplayer security problem
Am Samstag, 27. September 2003, 15:25:35 Uhr MET, schrieb Vincent Danen: Attached is the diff against the 0.91 version. This is all that is required to fix the problem? The only other diff between 0.91 and 0.92 is the changed version number. I'm afraid there could be more buffer overflow errors in mplayer, so please don't run it as root. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] mplayer security problem
Am Samstag, 27. September 2003, 09:35:39 Uhr MET, schrieb Simon Oosthoek: I just read this on the mplayer site, there's a security hole in almost all recent versions of mplayer. A fix-release 0.92 has been made to fix this... http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design6/news.html Arrgh, this is too late for 9.2, maybe Vincent will release a security update? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] mplayer1.0-1.0-0.pre1.5mdk
Am Samstag, 27. September 2003, 07:47:10 Uhr MET, schrieb Charles A Edwards: I brain was not working quite right. You didn't need a prereq for mplayer-skins but you do need a to add %if %build_gui BuildRequires: mplayer-skins The mplayer1.0-gui package had this requirement from the initial release. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] Weird fluxbox menu error
In file /etc/menu/menudrakeentry, at (or in the definition that ends at) line 5: [...] package=menu section=Fluxbox/Styles/ title= [...] ^ Yeah, I've noticed that too. The file was created for me after running menudrake. Try to delete it and make sure you don't have the fluxbox menu method anymore (/etc/menu-methods/fluxbox). -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] mplayer security problem
Am Samstag, 27. September 2003, 09:35:39 Uhr MET, schrieb Simon Oosthoek: I just read this on the mplayer site, there's a security hole in almost all recent versions of mplayer. A fix-release 0.92 has been made to fix this... http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design6/news.html Attached is the diff against the 0.91 version. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War --- MPlayer-0.91/libmpdemux/asf_streaming.c 2003-01-06 17:42:20.0 +0100 +++ MPlayer-0.92/libmpdemux/asf_streaming.c 2003-09-25 12:29:59.0 +0200 @@ -495,11 +495,11 @@ return NULL; } http_set_uri( http_hdr, server_url-url ); - sprintf( str, Host: %s:%d, server_url-hostname, server_url-port ); + sprintf( str, Host: %.220s:%d, server_url-hostname, server_url-port ); url_free( server_url ); } else { http_set_uri( http_hdr, url-file ); - sprintf( str, Host: %s:%d, url-hostname, url-port ); + sprintf( str, Host: %.220s:%d, url-hostname, url-port ); } http_set_field( http_hdr, str );
Re: [Cooker] gdesklets and mdk-check-update-gnome
Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2003, 20:48:11 Uhr MET, schrieb Toni Hermoso: Ups! Sorry for not having answered before: rpm -qa | grep pygtk pygtk-0.6.11-4mdk pygtk2.0-libglade-2.0.0-2mdk pygtk-libglade-0.6.11-3mdk pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk pygtk-glarea-0.6.11-4mdk pygtk2.0-wrapper-2.0.0-2mdk It seems fine, but the error message suggests that the gnome-python apps can't find pygtk2.0. Have you compiled that packages yourself against the old python version? Can you please test this: /usr/share/doc/pygtk2.0-2.0.0/examples/simple/hello.py CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] gdesklets and mdk-check-update-gnome
Am Freitag, 26. September 2003, 10:39:27 Uhr MET, schrieb Toni Hermoso: in ? import gtk File /home/goetz/tmp/pygtk2.0-2.0.0-root/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 43, in ? ImportError: No module named _numpy Hi, I guess your python-numeric wasn't updated. Do you still have /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/Numeric/_numpy.so instead of /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Numeric/_numpy.so ? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] bittorrent-3.3-2gpw - please test
http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/ * Fr Sep 26 2003 Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.3-2gpw - remove broken donation nag message - use transparent icons without text - include debian man pages -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Xmule
Am Freitag, 26. September 2003, 13:02:25 Uhr MET, schrieb Michael Lothian: I know Xmule isn't offically part of Mandrake and only available from plf but... PLF has it's own list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...
Am Freitag, 26. September 2003, 15:14:50 Uhr MET, schrieb Keld Jørn Simonsen: configurability of a contrib source out of postinstall in DrakX This is a good idea. I hope the suits don't decide against this to protect the added value of their powerpack DVDs. possiblity to nuke files with standard virus extension in postfix (.exe, .pif..) I somehow misread this for plf :-) Which leads me to another problem: backported packages: Projects like plf sometimes need to backport cooker or contrib packages to the stable distribution. This can lead to problems when upgrading to the next stable distribution, when the release number of the package didn't change. Here's an example: - install foobar-1.2-3mdk backported from cooker to Mandrake 9.1, obviously based on libbaz2. - upgrade the distribution to 9.2. 9.2 has libbaz3 and foobar-1.2.3mdk based on libbaz3 - as the version and release numbers stay the same, the foobar package doesn't get updated to the version linked against libbaz3 It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the same version and release tags. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] bittorrent-3.3-2gpw - please test
Am Freitag, 26. September 2003, 11:49:44 Uhr MET, schrieb jokerman64: conflicts exist between your bittorrent-gui and and kdelibs-common for 3.2 alpha 2. For which file? I guess it's this one: /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop I don't know what the common practice is but one of them needs to be removed (probably yours at some point in time). I don't know if you got my last message but 3.3-1gpw worked just fine I think so. I haven't received your message about 3.3-1gpw. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] bittorrent-3.3-2gpw - please test
(probably yours at some point in time). I don't know if you got my last message but 3.3-1gpw worked just fine OK nevermind, I've found it, it was just another thread. CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] bittorrent-3.3-2gpw - please test
Can you please post a diff between the kde and the bittorrent versions of the conflicting file? CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] mplayer1.0-1.0-0.pre1.4mdk
[skin] file ( /usr/share/mplayer1.0/Skin/default/skin ) not found. Skin not found ( default ). [EMAIL PROTECTED] charles]$ su The fix is ln -s /usr/share/mplayer/Skin /usr/share/mplayer1.0 by adding to the 1.0.spec Thanks, I've uploaded a new contribs package. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: autoconf2.5.x problem
Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2003, 08:25:09 Uhr MET, schrieb lamikr_mdk: javahl subproject in the subversion has also autogen.sh which contains following calls. aclocal autoconf libtoolize --automake --force automake -a Hi, unless you change the default setting, aclocal will always be a symlink to aclocal-1.4, because that's the default version that has the highest priority. If you want aclocal 1.7, you'll have to call it with aclocal-1.7. For some reason if I call this autogen.sh as you showed WANT_AUTOCONF_2_5=1 AUTOMAKE=automake-1.7 AUTOHEADER=autoheader-2.5x ACLOCAL=aclocal-1.7 ./autogen.sh That trick can't work with the autogen.sh as seen above, as it doesn't evaluate the environment variables $AUTOMAKE et al but calls aclocal directly. So your solution to fix the autogen.sh was the right one. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] bittorrent-3.3-1gpw - please test
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2003, 17:15:32 Uhr MET, schrieb Götz Waschk: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/ There you'll find fresh 3.3 packages, including the btcompletedir fixes, please test. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Totem and gnome-panel
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003, 02:03:46 Uhr MET, schrieb Bellegarde Cedric: I use metacity, what is your window manager? I've got the same problem with xawtv in fullscreen, when i click to get channels menu, gnome panel appears.. Hi, I've tried it with metacity, no problem either. Maybe your configuration is broken. Could you please try to create a fresh user account and try it again? CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] bittorrent-3.2.1b-7gpw - please test
Hi, I've created an unofficial new bittorrent package, you can get it here: http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake/ * Mi Sep 24 2003 Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.2.1b-7gpw - add longtitle to the menu - add menu entry for btcompletedir.py - patch in maketorrent fixes - sync fixes from debian release 5 It finally has a working btcompletedir.py and some nice fixes for btlaunchmanycurses.py. It would be nice if you could test this. CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Totem and gnome-panel
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003, 02:03:46 Uhr MET, schrieb Bellegarde Cedric: I use metacity, what is your window manager? I've got the same problem with xawtv in fullscreen, when i click to get channels menu, gnome panel appears.. I have sawfish, but I'll try it with metacity tonight. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] autoconf2.5.x problem
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003, 17:00:41 Uhr MET, schrieb lamikr_mdk: [javahl]$ autoconf-2.5x ac-wrapper: ouch, couldn't call binary (/usr/bin/autom4te-2.13) If I list files in the autom4 I can see that autom4te-2.13 is missing. [javahl]$ ls -la /usr/bin/autom4* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 36 syys 23 16:35 /usr/bin/autom4te - ../../usr/lib/autoconf/ac-wrapper.pl* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root33532 heinä 1 16:51 /usr/bin/autom4te-2.5x* I am wondering why ac-wrapper.pl tries to call autom4te-2.13 instead than autom4te-2.5x Don't call autoconf-2.5x, use the instructions in /usr/lib/autoconf/ac-wrapper.pl, e.g. WANT_AUTOCONF_2_5=1 autoconf -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] autoconf2.5.x problem
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003, 17:39:27 Uhr MET, schrieb lamikr_mdk: That helped. Do you know is there similar kind of environment variables for selecting appropriate version of aclocal and automake? You can call them with the versioned executable name: aclocal-1.4 automake-1.4 -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] gdesklets and mdk-check-update-gnome
Am Samstag, 20. September 2003, 15:11:13 Uhr MET, schrieb Olivier Blin: I have the following output error: [ snip ] Any idea? Thanks for snipping the error, I had to look up the original message from the archive :-) Anyway, there was a deps problem in gnome-python that was fixed in 2.0.0-2mdk. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Totem and gnome-panel
Am Samstag, 20. September 2003, 17:09:35 Uhr MET, schrieb Bellegarde Cedric: With last totem version, in fullscreen, when i move pointer on control, gnome-panel is flashing on video :-/ No problems here. BTW Why is this a reply to the gdesklets thread? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] gdesklets and mdk-check-update-gnome
Am Montag, 22. September 2003, 13:01:00 Uhr MET, schrieb Olivier Blin: Thanks for snipping the error, I had to look up the original message from the archive :-) Sorry, but the messages were sent the same day, don't you keep at least a one day archive in your mail client ? You're right, I must have erased that mail by accident. Anyway, there was a deps problem in gnome-python that was fixed in 2.0.0-2mdk. You really need to keep some local archive ;) Toni said he was using 2.0.0-2mdk. OK, but he didn't tell us which pygtk2.0 packages he has installed. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] GeoIP-1.2.2-1mdk
Am Montag, 22. September 2003, 15:00:32 Uhr MET, schrieb Lenny Cartier: Name: GeoIPRelocations: (not relocateable) Arrgh, it's already there, but I have minded the all lower case policy. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] Re: [move] cooker main changes
Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2003, 15:51:28 Uhr MET, schrieb mandrake: need perl-MD5 in contrib these packages has been moved from cooker main to cooker contrib: - perl-PDA-Pilot-0.11.8-4mdk.alpha.rpm (alpha) - pilot-link-0.11.8-4mdk.src.rpm (alpha) - libpisock8-0.11.8-4mdk.alpha.rpm (alpha) Bad idea, libpisock8 is required by kdepim-kpilot. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] xmms and mpeg video
Am Sonntag, 14. September 2003, 19:39:40 Uhr MET, schrieb Keld Jørn Simonsen: Bad idea, as smpeg-xmms is a really sucky mpeg player. I'd even vote for moving xmms-smpeg from main to the contribs. Why do you think it is bad? It has worked fine for me. It's really slow, cannot play MPEG2, ... You could use mplayer or xine instead. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Totem as default mp3 player for Galeon?
Am Samstag, 13. September 2003, 07:26:34 Uhr MET, schrieb Larry Nguyen: Installed RC2 and selected all the Usual Suspect for a workstation. Fired up Galeon, went to my online mp3 collection (mind ya! I have the original CDs), click on a playlist, xmms is not listed there. Totem couldn't play it. You could file a bug report against totem. What was the error message and what was the file type? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 download CD size
Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 13:21:01 Uhr MET, schrieb Jan Ciger: I would rather prefer good old 650MB. I can write the images to a CD-RW and when a new version is out, just rewrite them without having old obsolete CDs with old versions laying around. Or does anybody know, where to get 700MB CD-RWs ? Don't know about your country, but here in Germany you can buy good TDK CD-RWs with 700MB capacity at Vobis. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 04:28:36 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Why? Space constrains on the CDs. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-devel not included with RC2
Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 05:05:01 Uhr MET, schrieb Ric Johnson: Are you sure about that? That does not make any sense to me considering the large number of non-essiential programs that could have been removed and that mozilla is the default MDK web browser since they dropped Netscape. AFAIK all packages have a score that marks it importance. Devel packages generally have a lower score than application packages. Most Joe Users don't build mozilla extensions but would be sad about a missing kde screensaver or one game less on the download edition's CDs. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] BitTorrent suggestion
Am Montag, 15. September 2003, 14:16:39 Uhr MET, schrieb Sitsofe Wheeler: For the final Mandrake release could you not split the torrents (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/ ) up by CD (and md5sum)? Instead package them as one. So we should keep it the same as with the 9.2rc2 torrent link? -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] xmms and mpeg video
Am Sonntag, 14. September 2003, 18:56:42 Uhr MET, schrieb Keld Jørn Simonsen: A small request, when installing xmms I would like that also the smpeg module be installed by default. This makes xmms a nice mpeg player, and it does not cost much in terms of space. Maybe just pack smpeg-xmms with the xmms package. Bad idea, as smpeg-xmms is a really sucky mpeg player. I'd even vote for moving xmms-smpeg from main to the contribs. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] preview-latex-0.7.8-8mdk
Hmm, only the source package and preview-latex-emacs have been uploaded, while preview-latex-common and preview-latex-xemacs are still at 7mdk. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Gnome notification applet taking 1000f cpu
Am Freitag, 12. September 2003, 09:27:24 Uhr MET, schrieb Frederic Crozat: On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:25:20 +0200, Olivier Blin wrote: At gnome startup, notification applet take 1000f cpu. After some seconds(30s), it works normaly... Someone with same problem? Yes, but this occurs only at first gnome startup, if you log out and log in again, this doesn't occur anymore. No, it is always occuring on some systems (my test system and my home one).. It seems to be caused by pam-panel-icon which always updates itself.. Hi, I think it eats more CPU time if there are more notification icons active. If I exit xmms (which uses the xmms-status-plugin), the load of my machine decreases. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] sgrotum-1.2.6-1mdk
Am Freitag, 12. September 2003, 12:07:40 Uhr MET, schrieb Thierry Vignaud: Name: sgrotum Relocations: (not relocateable) [schnipp] is this really needed in package description ? I wonder why nobody has complained yet about the package name :-) -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] um.
Am Freitag, 12. September 2003, 03:15:18 Uhr MET, schrieb Duncan: On Thu 11 Sep 2003 23:50, Svetoslav Slavtchev posted as excerpted below: i still disslike SuSE, because they use closed installer, and there are no free install CD, and i think i would have similer impression from Mandrake. If I'm not mistaken, they DO publish source, but it's not GPL compatible due to a caveat -- you can make mods and distribute as you wish, BUT ONLY FOR FREE AS IN GRATIS, you can't distribute versions for which you charge. Thus, it's deliberately not commercially viable to use their installer as the basis for another distrib, in ordered to keep commercial competition down, but if one doesn't charge for it, one could do it, and one is free to do it for their own or company use free of distribution charge, in any case. That's as I've seen it explained, anyway. I haven't bothered to go look at it first hand and see, so it's QUITE possible I have it all wrong. If so, a correction would indeed be appreciated. You're absolutely right, that's the licence of yast2 in plain english. This is the reason that disqualifies SuSE for me and others, as it's NOT free software, they restrict your freedom too much to make it usable for stuff like a special purpose distribution. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] preview-latex-0.7.8-8mdk
Am Donnerstag, 11. September 2003, 19:29:48 Uhr MET, schrieb Warly: Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.8-8mdk - rebuild against xemacs-21.4.14 This was very fast, thanks. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Neverball segfaults after a while
Am Donnerstag, 11. September 2003, 20:31:59 Uhr MET, schrieb Robert Fox: I have the Nvidia drivers installed - ti4200 GForce card. The neverball game is cool - but it fals after playing it a while with a segfault: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rfox]$ neverball Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) /usr//bin/neverball: line 3: 21414 Segmentation fault /usr/lib/neverball Not sure if this is a neverball or Mandrake problem. Try if it also happens with the nv driver, if not, report it to Nvidia. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] Re: xscreensaver requires
Am Dienstag, 9. September 2003, 22:40:47 Uhr MET, schrieb Crispin Boylan: xscreensaver has requires on chbg - but this is not needed anymore can it be fixed? I see. The old xscreensaver-getimage was a script that called chbg, right? The new one is a C program based on gdk_pixbuf. I'd upload a new package, but the distribution is in a freeze, so I'll have to check it with the maintainers. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War