Re: [Debconf-team] bursaries questions for summit (URGENT)
Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com writes: Nitpick: absolutely unable to attend implies not being able to pay for it at all; I feel an option like while I could in theory pay for this, the financial sacrifices can not be justified at the moment in between the two above. Or maybe rephrase the above two a bit. Indeed, that's exactly the intent. If one checks absolutely unable to attend, doesn't make the list of sponsored attendees, and still shows up, one should expect to have some explaining to do. I would dearly love for the middle two options to be as unambiguous, but so far we didn't manage it. I don't think we want to add more buckets to the self-assesment, because I think will make the actual ranking process worse (e.g. because I choose need level 1.5 unstead of 2, I get funding and you don't, even though it's all very subjective and fuzzy and we could have easily swapped). I'm open to specific wording suggestions. It seems tough to come up with changes that don't make things worse according to some fraction of community, but I may be missing something obvious. I don't think changing option 2 to unnacceptable sacrifices helps, since then we have to ask, well, it if's so unnacceptable, I guess that's option 1, isn't it? d signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] bursaries questions for summit (URGENT)
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:41 AM, David Bremner da...@tethera.net wrote: - We your privacy, but we also want to reduce financial +value Richard ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] bursaries questions for summit (URGENT)
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:04 AM, David Bremner da...@tethera.net wrote: Indeed, that's exactly the intent. If one checks absolutely unable to attend, doesn't make the list of sponsored attendees, and still shows up, one should expect to have some explaining to do. Ah, a canary. Good thinking, that :) I would dearly love for the middle two options to be as unambiguous, but so far we didn't manage it. I don't think we want to add more buckets to the self-assesment, because I think will make the actual ranking process worse (e.g. because I choose need level 1.5 unstead of 2, I get funding and you don't, even though it's all very subjective and fuzzy and we could have easily swapped). Agreed. I'm open to specific wording suggestions. It seems tough to come up with changes that don't make things worse according to some fraction of community, but I may be missing something obvious. I don't think changing option 2 to unnacceptable sacrifices helps, since then we have to ask, well, it if's so unnacceptable, I guess that's option 1, isn't it? I think what I had in mind with option 1.5 is what you want to express with option 1. Given all this, option 3 seems to be the one that could be improved upon, but I could not find exact wording, either. Richard ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote: 1) name of the psuedopackage Presumably, that's summit.debconf.org in this case. Correct. 2) a short description of what the pseudopackage will be used for (suitable for inclusion in https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages) Problems and requests related to the DebConf Summit instance 3) The e-mail address of the maintainer of the psuedopackage who will receive mail related to that mailing list Unsure; the general list may be too spammy, yet we would ideally want to avoid Yet Another Mailing List. Can we just add ourselves with personal addresses for now? Initially: cate@d.o e...@zhevny.com richih@d.o stefanor@d.o I also like to see an example existing bugs (or e-mails which would have been/will be turned into bugs) which will be reassigned to this pseudopackage once it is created. This is primarily so that I know that the pseudopackage will be used. https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit#DC15_wishlist Finally, I must note that the name of the psuedopackage will never be available for a Debian package in the archive. [Given the name chosen, that seems fine.] Interesting and obvious in hindsight. I agree that this name should be rather safe, though. Richard ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] LWN coverage of DebConf15
Margarita Manterola dijo [Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 10:16:34PM +0100]: (...) Before we agree to this, though, we would like to know what the cost would be. The closest to Germany that the journalist is coming from, the cheaper it's going to be for us to sponsor them, so it'd make sense for them to come from a closer country. If they are coming from the US (as has been suggested) we probably will want to do partial sponsoring of the ticket, capped at a certain (still undecided) number. Right. I am replying to this mostly because of my other, very enthusiastic mail. I supposed there would be an Europe-based LWN member to cover DebConf; if the person has to fly from the USA... Well, I'd still love to have them on, but it might be too high a price to pay (this is, it would mean having them in instead of at least two flight-food-and-accom-sponsored people from Europe). ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package
Dear BTS admins, The DebConf Infrastructure team requests a new pseudo-package, summit.debconf.org, for use in tracking bugs, feature requests and so forth for DebConf's instance of the Summit conference management system. See the thread starting here: http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20150121.181821.9a8d1969.en.html for discussion and support of this request. Thank you for your time and efforts, Eric Rzewnicki (on behalf of DebConf Team) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package
Thanks! Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015, Richard Hartmann wrote: On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote: 1) name of the psuedopackage Presumably, that's summit.debconf.org in this case. Correct. 2) a short description of what the pseudopackage will be used for (suitable for inclusion in https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages) Problems and requests related to the DebConf Summit instance OK. 3) The e-mail address of the maintainer of the psuedopackage Unsure; the general list may be too spammy, yet we would ideally want to avoid Yet Another Mailing List. Can we just add ourselves with personal addresses for now? Initially: cate@d.o e...@zhevny.com richih@d.o stefanor@d.o I'd really prefer not to; that would require me editing the maintainer list manually any time someone wanted it changed. [And it also doesn't scale very well; a mailing list also enables anyone who wants to join your team without having to bug me.] I should note as well that whatever the mailing list is, it needs to be configured to allow BTS mail. Currently debconf-team does not appear to be properly configured. I also like to see an example existing bugs https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit#DC15_wishlist Cool. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com It was a very familiar voice. [...] It was a voice you could have used to open a bottle of whine. -- Terry Pratchett _The Last Continent_ p270 ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package
Package: bugs.debian.org Severity: wishlist Control: tag -1 moreinfo Control: submitter -1 Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com Control: retitle -1 add summit.debconf.org psuedo-package On Tue, 03 Feb 2015, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: The DebConf Infrastructure team requests a new pseudo-package, summit.debconf.org, for use in tracking bugs, feature requests and so forth for DebConf's instance of the Summit conference management system. In order to create the psuedopackage, I need the 1) name of the psuedopackage Presumably, that's summit.debconf.org in this case. 2) a short description of what the pseudopackage will be used for (suitable for inclusion in https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages) 3) The e-mail address of the maintainer of the psuedopackage who will receive mail related to that mailing list I also like to see an example existing bugs (or e-mails which would have been/will be turned into bugs) which will be reassigned to this pseudopackage once it is created. This is primarily so that I know that the pseudopackage will be used. Finally, I must note that the name of the psuedopackage will never be available for a Debian package in the archive. [Given the name chosen, that seems fine.] -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com What I can't stand is the feeling that my brain is leaving me for someone more interesting. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 06:28:37PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote: Thanks! Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. So it is now a bug against bugs.debian.org with a request for more info. See Don's response below. I'll follow up in #776982. I think I can provide the requested info. But, of course, suggestions from the team will help. 1) pseudo-package name: summit.debconf.org 2) description: Issues regarding the summit.debconf.org software and service 3) maintainer address: debconf-team@lists.debconf.org ? I would not be comfortable with this being just me or any other single person. Bug examples: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit#TODO and #DONE TODOs in summit.git (and maybe my local TODO) Those are probably enough, but I can also dig up some relevant mailinglist threads from this year and last. -edrz From debb...@buxtehude.debian.org Tue Feb 3 14:27:52 2015 Subject: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package Reply-To: ow...@bugs.debian.org, 776...@bugs.debian.org Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 11:23:17 -0800 From: Don Armstrong d...@debian.org To: sub...@bugs.debian.org Package: bugs.debian.org Severity: wishlist Control: tag -1 moreinfo Control: submitter -1 Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com Control: retitle -1 add summit.debconf.org psuedo-package On Tue, 03 Feb 2015, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: The DebConf Infrastructure team requests a new pseudo-package, summit.debconf.org, for use in tracking bugs, feature requests and so forth for DebConf's instance of the Summit conference management system. In order to create the psuedopackage, I need the 1) name of the psuedopackage Presumably, that's summit.debconf.org in this case. 2) a short description of what the pseudopackage will be used for (suitable for inclusion in https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages) 3) The e-mail address of the maintainer of the psuedopackage who will receive mail related to that mailing list I also like to see an example existing bugs (or e-mails which would have been/will be turned into bugs) which will be reassigned to this pseudopackage once it is created. This is primarily so that I know that the pseudopackage will be used. Finally, I must note that the name of the psuedopackage will never be available for a Debian package in the archive. [Given the name chosen, that seems fine.] -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com What I can't stand is the feeling that my brain is leaving me for someone more interesting. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] LWN coverage of DebConf15
On 02/02/15 21:16, Margarita Manterola wrote: All that said, someone will need to handle contacting them and asking this kind of questions. Tincho, are you going to keep being their contact or will someone else be? I had already asked about cost estimates when I sent the idea to the list. I am waiting for an answer. Paul was the initial contact, so either him or me can continue to be the liaison. -- Martín Ferrari (Tincho) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
