Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Leon Fauster via devel]

Am 03.07.23 um 18:07 schrieb Simon de Vlieger:

On 7/3/23 13:46, Ralf Corsépius wrote:


It is the core of the problem esp. big US companies tend to ignore.

May-be you guys are not aware of there are tendencies to legally 
prohibit such "cloud solutions" in many countries?


It's generally not so much 'legally prohibit' as 'data has to be kept 
within $jurisdiction and is not to be shared outside of it'. If 
$jurisdiction is large enough cloud operators tend to offer that solution.



Its not a cloud provider its a software vendor. Further more a couple of
authoritative entities have proven that such solutions do not comply 
with data protection requirements. Its of value having a standalone 
package (to getting back to the topic). If not now, for sure in the near 
future.


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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Simon de Vlieger]

On 7/3/23 13:46, Ralf Corsépius wrote:


It is the core of the problem esp. big US companies tend to ignore.

May-be you guys are not aware of there are tendencies to legally 
prohibit such "cloud solutions" in many countries?


It's generally not so much 'legally prohibit' as 'data has to be kept 
within $jurisdiction and is not to be shared outside of it'. If 
$jurisdiction is large enough cloud operators tend to offer that solution.

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Ralf Corsépius]

Am 01.07.23 um 14:28 schrieb Peter Robinson:

On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 12:50 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
 wrote:


On 01/07/2023 13:36, Chris Adams wrote:

A lot of the corporate world has gone to the "cloud"



don't have to worry about local backups of important documents and
spreadsheets, they get sharing with minimal effort, they can access
things from their mobile devices, etc.


And voluntarily hand over all the corporate secrets to Google and
Microsoft. Brilliant idea.


This sort of comment is off topic, 

It definitely is not off-topic.

It is the core of the problem esp. big US companies tend to ignore.

May-be you guys are not aware of there are tendencies to legally 
prohibit such "cloud solutions" in many countries?



Ralf
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Kalev Lember]

On 7/3/23 09:23, Victor Toso wrote:

On Sat, Jul 01, 2023 at 10:09:15PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote:

Victor (CC'd), do you want to pick up grilo and grilo-plugins?


Sure, I'll keep maintaining both in Fedora.


Excellent! Can you click on the "Take" button at
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grilo and
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grilo-plugins ? Bastien was the
package owner before and now they are orphaned.

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Kevin Kofler via devel]

Peter Robinson wrote:
> Someone doing work in EPEL is quite a bit different to my point of a
> corporate organisation downstream of RHEL adding value and
> differentiation that Red Hat doesn't provide as part of RHEL.

The discussion was about people being able or unable to obtain the 
LibreOffice packages in some parts of the world. Since EPEL is widely 
mirrored, and mirrors (especially non-US ones) tend to not enforce US export 
control, people should be able to get the EPEL packages, along with some 
RHEL rebuild on which to install them, basically everywhere on the world. 
Whether the packaging work is done in EPEL or specifically in one of the 
rebuilds does not really matter for that purpose.

And I do not really see a good reason why a rebuild should be doing that 
packaging on their own in their own repositories when it can be done within 
the EPEL infrastructure that benefits everyone. It is the same as for KDE 
Plasma really. What the rebuilds can do though is, e.g., to include the 
LibreOffice EPEL packages on their live images, as they are already doing 
with the KDE EPEL packages.

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Peter Robinson]

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 10:27 PM Kevin Kofler via devel
 wrote:
>
> Peter Robinson wrote:
> > Assuming those "binary compatible distributions" choose to add
> > LibreOffice back in and support it, given what they actually do in
> > terms of actual development it's actually pretty unlikely they're
> > going to do all the extra work to add back an office suite and all the
> > dependencies it requires.
>
> If LibreOffice remains maintained in Fedora (and I sure hope so, because
> otherwise that would definitely make Fedora useless for me), there is a good
> chance that somebody will request and maintain EPEL branches for it, as has
> already been done for the KDE Plasma and KDE Gear applications stack.

Someone doing work in EPEL is quite a bit different to my point of a
corporate organisation downstream of RHEL adding value and
differentiation that Red Hat doesn't provide as part of RHEL.
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Kevin Kofler via devel]

Peter Robinson wrote:
> Assuming those "binary compatible distributions" choose to add
> LibreOffice back in and support it, given what they actually do in
> terms of actual development it's actually pretty unlikely they're
> going to do all the extra work to add back an office suite and all the
> dependencies it requires.

If LibreOffice remains maintained in Fedora (and I sure hope so, because 
otherwise that would definitely make Fedora useless for me), there is a good 
chance that somebody will request and maintain EPEL branches for it, as has 
already been done for the KDE Plasma and KDE Gear applications stack.

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Michael Catanzaro]

On Fri, Jun 30 2023 at 05:40:33 AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel 
 wrote:
So Red Hat is essentially killing all work on desktop packages, not 
just on

LibreOffice?


No. Losing Bastien is extremely unfortunate and demoralizing, but we 
are not killing all work on desktop packages.


Michael

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Peter Robinson]

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 11:01 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
 wrote:
>
> On 02/07/2023 10:51, Simon de Vlieger wrote:
> > The suppliers for these enterprise distributions and the support they
> > offer also abide by political lines.
>
> Indeed. That's why having RHEL repacks (Alma, Rocky, Oracle Linux) is good.
>
> > While your data won't be gone in an instant you still end up in the same 
> > situation with using an unsupported office suite.
>
> You can simply switch to one of these RHEL binary compatible distributions.

Assuming those "binary compatible distributions" choose to add
LibreOffice back in and support it, given what they actually do in
terms of actual development it's actually pretty unlikely they're
going to do all the extra work to add back an office suite and all the
dependencies it requires.
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Vitaly Zaitsev via devel]

On 02/07/2023 10:51, Simon de Vlieger wrote:
The suppliers for these enterprise distributions and the support they 
offer also abide by political lines.


Indeed. That's why having RHEL repacks (Alma, Rocky, Oracle Linux) is good.

While your data won't be gone in an instant you still end up in the same situation with using an unsupported office suite. 


You can simply switch to one of these RHEL binary compatible distributions.

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Simon de Vlieger]

On 7/2/23 08:56, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:

On 01/07/2023 14:28, Peter Robinson wrote:

This sort of comment is off topic, various companies are free to do
with their data as they wish, just as you are free to do with it as
you please.


This is not offtopic. What I mean is that a distribution targeted at 
enterprise use should have a standalone office suite in their 
repositories, because most enterprise users will won't use Flathub or 
any other third party repositories due to their internal security 
policy. They will simply migrate from RHEL to Ubuntu LTS or another 
enterprise distribution with LO.


These two situations can co-exist. Some companies will use cloud-based 
solutions because of the benefits they offer and some companies prefer 
to keep everything close to their chest.



Frankly it's often more secure with cloud providers than
on corporate networks.


And they can easily dump you and all your data. Russian Federation is a 
good example. Both Microsoft and Google have disabled all paid accounts 
for users and organizations from this country.




The suppliers for these enterprise distributions and the support they 
offer also abide by political lines. While your data won't be gone in an 
instant you still end up in the same situation with using an unsupported 
office suite.

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Vitaly Zaitsev via devel]

On 01/07/2023 14:28, Peter Robinson wrote:

This sort of comment is off topic, various companies are free to do
with their data as they wish, just as you are free to do with it as
you please.


This is not offtopic. What I mean is that a distribution targeted at 
enterprise use should have a standalone office suite in their 
repositories, because most enterprise users will won't use Flathub or 
any other third party repositories due to their internal security 
policy. They will simply migrate from RHEL to Ubuntu LTS or another 
enterprise distribution with LO.



Frankly it's often more secure with cloud providers than
on corporate networks.


And they can easily dump you and all your data. Russian Federation is a 
good example. Both Microsoft and Google have disabled all paid accounts 
for users and organizations from this country.


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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Smith, Stewart via devel]

On Jun 29, 2023, at 7:47 AM, Bastien Nocera  wrote:
> Here is a list of Fedora packages which I maintained or co-maintained which I 
> won't be able to contribute to anymore:
> 
> sloccount

I grabbed sloccount as I’ve found it useful over the years.

It looks the right level of incredibly low maintenance to add to the pile.

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Kalev Lember]

On 6/29/23 16:47, Bastien Nocera wrote:

Hello,

As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice 
packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, multimedia 
applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and libfprint/fprintd is being 
stopped, and all the rest of my upstream and downstream work will be reassigned depending 
on Red Hat's own priorities, as I am transferred to another team.

While it's possible that some of the maintenance will stay with me in the new 
team, I've not yet been told which team I would be joining.

Here is a list of Fedora packages which I maintained or co-maintained which I 
won't be able to contribute to anymore:
apfs-fuse
bluez
codespell
eosrei-emojione-fonts
geocode-glib
gnome-bluetooth
gnome-epub-thumbnailer
gnome-kra-ora-thumbnailer
gnome-user-share
gom
grilo
grilo-plugins
ifuse
iio-sensor-proxy
libfprint
libglib-testing
libimobiledevice
libpeas
libplist
libportal
libusbmuxd
low-memory-monitor
malcontent
power-profiles-daemon
sloccount
switcheroo-control
totem
totem-pl-parser
umockdev
usbmuxd


I went ahead and picked up some of the GNOME packages from the list:

gnome-bluetooth
gnome-user-share
gom
libglib-testing
libpeas
libportal
totem
totem-pl-parser

Victor (CC'd), do you want to pick up grilo and grilo-plugins?

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Leon Fauster via devel]

Am 01.07.23 um 14:28 schrieb Peter Robinson:

On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 12:50 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
 wrote:


On 01/07/2023 13:36, Chris Adams wrote:

A lot of the corporate world has gone to the "cloud"



don't have to worry about local backups of important documents and
spreadsheets, they get sharing with minimal effort, they can access
things from their mobile devices, etc.


And voluntarily hand over all the corporate secrets to Google and
Microsoft. Brilliant idea.


This sort of comment is off topic, various companies are free to do
with their data as they wish, just as you are free to do with it as
you please. Frankly it's often more secure with cloud providers than
on corporate networks. Either way that comment doesn't provide useful
discourse in this discussion.



No really, it defines requirements that a non-cloud solution addresses.
Just to rephrase it; "it's often more secure (confidential) on corporate 
networks than with cloud providers". So a legitimately contribution to

the discourse in having a functional desktop (office) environment.
Whether its being flatpaked, rpmish, immutable packaged or what ever the
future brings ...

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Peter Robinson]

On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 12:50 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
 wrote:
>
> On 01/07/2023 13:36, Chris Adams wrote:
> > A lot of the corporate world has gone to the "cloud"
>
> > don't have to worry about local backups of important documents and
> > spreadsheets, they get sharing with minimal effort, they can access
> > things from their mobile devices, etc.
>
> And voluntarily hand over all the corporate secrets to Google and
> Microsoft. Brilliant idea.

This sort of comment is off topic, various companies are free to do
with their data as they wish, just as you are free to do with it as
you please. Frankly it's often more secure with cloud providers than
on corporate networks. Either way that comment doesn't provide useful
discourse in this discussion.
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Vitaly Zaitsev via devel]

On 01/07/2023 13:36, Chris Adams wrote:

A lot of the corporate world has gone to the "cloud"



don't have to worry about local backups of important documents and
spreadsheets, they get sharing with minimal effort, they can access
things from their mobile devices, etc.


And voluntarily hand over all the corporate secrets to Google and 
Microsoft. Brilliant idea.


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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler  said:
> Peter Robinson wrote:
> > I would hardly say Libreoffice, bluetooth on the desktop and certain
> > iDevice pieces is "killing all work on the desktop" it's more focusing
> > on things that are important to their customers in those contexts.
> 
> What corporate desktop customers do not use LibreOffice? If RH considers 
> LibreOffice unimportant to their customers, it is obvious that they only 
> care about server customers.

A lot of the corporate world has gone to the "cloud" (Google Docs or
O365) for their office needs, enough that even where Windows is the
predominant desktop OS, they don't get MS Office licenses either.  They
don't have to worry about local backups of important documents and
spreadsheets, they get sharing with minimal effort, they can access
things from their mobile devices, etc.

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Peter Robinson]

On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 12:30 PM Peter Robinson  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 12:00 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
>  wrote:
> >
> > Peter Robinson wrote:
> > > I would hardly say Libreoffice, bluetooth on the desktop and certain
> > > iDevice pieces is "killing all work on the desktop" it's more focusing
> > > on things that are important to their customers in those contexts.
> >
> > What corporate desktop customers do not use LibreOffice? If RH considers
> > LibreOffice unimportant to their customers, it is obvious that they only
> > care about server customers.
>
> Well if the customer gets it via Flatpak they still have it, it also
> means it doesn't need to be upgraded in lockstep with the OS so they
> can go to newer versions while keeping the same rev of the desktop or
> vica versa.
>
> But then there's also "desktop usecases like retail point of sale and
> a whole lot of other single use UX graphical like display boards,
> ticket machines, places where they're technical workstations and the
> user has a separate windows device for email/office etc. There's a
> vast array.

Also a lot use online docs like Office365 or Google docs. I personally
used to use Libreoffice a lot but now I mostly use gDocs.
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Peter Robinson]

On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 12:00 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
 wrote:
>
> Peter Robinson wrote:
> > I would hardly say Libreoffice, bluetooth on the desktop and certain
> > iDevice pieces is "killing all work on the desktop" it's more focusing
> > on things that are important to their customers in those contexts.
>
> What corporate desktop customers do not use LibreOffice? If RH considers
> LibreOffice unimportant to their customers, it is obvious that they only
> care about server customers.

Well if the customer gets it via Flatpak they still have it, it also
means it doesn't need to be upgraded in lockstep with the OS so they
can go to newer versions while keeping the same rev of the desktop or
vica versa.

But then there's also "desktop usecases like retail point of sale and
a whole lot of other single use UX graphical like display boards,
ticket machines, places where they're technical workstations and the
user has a separate windows device for email/office etc. There's a
vast array.
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Arthur Bols]

On 29/06/2023 16:47, Bastien Nocera wrote:

Hello,

As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice 
packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, multimedia 
applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and libfprint/fprintd is being 
stopped, and all the rest of my upstream and downstream work will be reassigned depending 
on Red Hat's own priorities, as I am transferred to another team.

While it's possible that some of the maintenance will stay with me in the new 
team, I've not yet been told which team I would be joining.

Here is a list of Fedora packages which I maintained or co-maintained which I 
won't be able to contribute to anymore:
apfs-fuse
bluez
codespell
eosrei-emojione-fonts
geocode-glib
gnome-bluetooth
gnome-epub-thumbnailer
gnome-kra-ora-thumbnailer
gnome-user-share
gom
grilo
grilo-plugins
ifuse
iio-sensor-proxy
libfprint
libglib-testing
libimobiledevice
libpeas
libplist
libportal
libusbmuxd
low-memory-monitor
malcontent
power-profiles-daemon
sloccount
switcheroo-control
totem
totem-pl-parser
umockdev
usbmuxd

I've picked up power-profiles-daemon

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Alexander Ploumistos]

On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 1:00 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
 wrote:
>
> What corporate desktop customers do not use LibreOffice?

I know two big-name scientific instrument manufacturers that offer
RHEL workstations on which to run the control software. I suspect
there are other domains with similar use cases, i.e. dedicated
computers that only run a certain piece of software or software suite.
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Kevin Kofler via devel]

Peter Robinson wrote:
> I would hardly say Libreoffice, bluetooth on the desktop and certain
> iDevice pieces is "killing all work on the desktop" it's more focusing
> on things that are important to their customers in those contexts.

What corporate desktop customers do not use LibreOffice? If RH considers 
LibreOffice unimportant to their customers, it is obvious that they only 
care about server customers.

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Peter Robinson]

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 4:41 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
 wrote:
>
> Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice
> > packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth,
> > multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and
> > libfprint/fprintd is being stopped, and all the rest of my upstream and
> > downstream work will be reassigned depending on Red Hat's own priorities,
> > as I am transferred to another team.
>
> So Red Hat is essentially killing all work on desktop packages, not just on
> LibreOffice? Also considering that several of those packages are libraries
> that cannot just be put on Flathub as LibreOffice can (which was their
> excuse for terminating all work on LibreOffice packaging).

I would hardly say Libreoffice, bluetooth on the desktop and certain
iDevice pieces is "killing all work on the desktop" it's more focusing
on things that are important to their customers in those contexts.
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Vitaly Zaitsev via devel]

On 30/06/2023 00:09, crissdell wrote:

Hi, i'm really interested in maintaining this rpms, jdns and git-subrepo, but 
i'm not an packager yet, I really appreciate if someone is willing to mentor 
me, I dont want to mess it up.


https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/How_to_Get_Sponsored_into_the_Packager_Group/

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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Kevin Kofler via devel]

Bastien Nocera wrote:
> As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice
> packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth,
> multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and
> libfprint/fprintd is being stopped, and all the rest of my upstream and
> downstream work will be reassigned depending on Red Hat's own priorities,
> as I am transferred to another team.

So Red Hat is essentially killing all work on desktop packages, not just on 
LibreOffice? Also considering that several of those packages are libraries 
that cannot just be put on Flathub as LibreOffice can (which was their 
excuse for terminating all work on LibreOffice packaging).

With the layoff and the destruction of the position of the Fedora Program 
Manager, the termination of public RHEL source releases, and this move, Red 
Hat is really turning into an unfriendly company, and I really have to 
wonder whether Fedora is going to be of any use to me in the long run.

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Orphaning packages

[crissdell via devel]

Hi, i'm really interested in maintaining this rpms, jdns and git-subrepo, but 
i'm not an packager yet, I really appreciate if someone is willing to mentor 
me, I dont want to mess it up.

Thanks for your time

Sincerely

Cristian Delgado

--- Original Message ---
On Friday, June 23rd, 2023 at 1:53 AM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel 
 wrote:


> Hello.
> 
> I orphaned the following packages:
> 
> rpms/axc
> rpms/git-subrepo
> rpms/jdns
> rpms/maddy
> rpms/mdns
> rpms/pidgin-groupchat-typing-notifications
> rpms/pidgin-privacy-please
> rpms/pidgin-toobars
> rpms/psi
> rpms/psi-plus
> rpms/purple-discord
> rpms/purple-googlechat
> rpms/purple-libsteam
> rpms/purple-lurch
> rpms/purple-matrix
> rpms/purple-plugin_pack
> rpms/purple-skypeweb
> rpms/python-wloc
> rpms/python-networkmanager
> rpms/python-pytelegrambotapi
> rpms/python-emoji
> 
> --
> Sincerely,
> Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Davide Cavalca]

On 2023-06-29 18:09, Bastien Nocera wrote:

Do you want to pick up the rest of the libimobiledevice stack as well?
That's ifuse, libplist, libusbmuxd and usbmuxd.


I've just picked these up, thanks! Will work together with Neal on this 
stack as part of the Fedora Asahi SIG.


Cheers
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Bastien Nocera]

Do you want to pick up the rest of the libimobiledevice stack as well? That's 
ifuse, libplist, libusbmuxd and usbmuxd.
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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Stephen Smoogen]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 10:48, Bastien Nocera  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice
> packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth,
> multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and
> libfprint/fprintd is being stopped, and all the rest of my upstream and
> downstream work will be reassigned depending on Red Hat's own priorities,
> as I am transferred to another team.
>
>
1. Thank you for all the work you have done on these and other packages in
Fedora. The Bluetooth stack is not easy.
2. Thank you for announcing this early and allowing a quick transfer.
3. Good luck with the new team, they are lucky to have you.


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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Jeffrey Stewart]

I've picked up low-memory-monitor

On 6/29/23 08:46, Neal Gompa wrote:

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:48 AM Bastien Nocera  wrote:

Hello,

As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice 
packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, multimedia 
applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and libfprint/fprintd is being 
stopped, and all the rest of my upstream and downstream work will be reassigned depending 
on Red Hat's own priorities, as I am transferred to another team.

While it's possible that some of the maintenance will stay with me in the new 
team, I've not yet been told which team I would be joining.

Here is a list of Fedora packages which I maintained or co-maintained which I 
won't be able to contribute to anymore:
apfs-fuse
bluez
codespell
eosrei-emojione-fonts
geocode-glib
gnome-bluetooth
gnome-epub-thumbnailer
gnome-kra-ora-thumbnailer
gnome-user-share
gom
grilo
grilo-plugins
ifuse
iio-sensor-proxy
libfprint
libglib-testing
libimobiledevice
libpeas
libplist
libportal
libusbmuxd
low-memory-monitor
malcontent
power-profiles-daemon
sloccount
switcheroo-control
totem
totem-pl-parser
umockdev
usbmuxd


I've picked up libimobiledevice as I need it for Fedora Asahi work.




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Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Neal Gompa]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:48 AM Bastien Nocera  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice 
> packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, 
> multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and 
> libfprint/fprintd is being stopped, and all the rest of my upstream and 
> downstream work will be reassigned depending on Red Hat's own priorities, as 
> I am transferred to another team.
>
> While it's possible that some of the maintenance will stay with me in the new 
> team, I've not yet been told which team I would be joining.
>
> Here is a list of Fedora packages which I maintained or co-maintained which I 
> won't be able to contribute to anymore:
> apfs-fuse
> bluez
> codespell
> eosrei-emojione-fonts
> geocode-glib
> gnome-bluetooth
> gnome-epub-thumbnailer
> gnome-kra-ora-thumbnailer
> gnome-user-share
> gom
> grilo
> grilo-plugins
> ifuse
> iio-sensor-proxy
> libfprint
> libglib-testing
> libimobiledevice
> libpeas
> libplist
> libportal
> libusbmuxd
> low-memory-monitor
> malcontent
> power-profiles-daemon
> sloccount
> switcheroo-control
> totem
> totem-pl-parser
> umockdev
> usbmuxd
>

I've picked up libimobiledevice as I need it for Fedora Asahi work.



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Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

[Bastien Nocera]

Hello,

As part of the same process outlined in Matthias Clasen's "LibreOffice 
packages" email, my upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, 
multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and 
libfprint/fprintd is being stopped, and all the rest of my upstream and 
downstream work will be reassigned depending on Red Hat's own priorities, as I 
am transferred to another team.

While it's possible that some of the maintenance will stay with me in the new 
team, I've not yet been told which team I would be joining.

Here is a list of Fedora packages which I maintained or co-maintained which I 
won't be able to contribute to anymore:
apfs-fuse
bluez
codespell
eosrei-emojione-fonts
geocode-glib
gnome-bluetooth
gnome-epub-thumbnailer
gnome-kra-ora-thumbnailer
gnome-user-share
gom
grilo
grilo-plugins
ifuse
iio-sensor-proxy
libfprint
libglib-testing
libimobiledevice
libpeas
libplist
libportal
libusbmuxd
low-memory-monitor
malcontent
power-profiles-daemon
sloccount
switcheroo-control
totem
totem-pl-parser
umockdev
usbmuxd

Regards
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[EPEL-devel] Re: Orphaning packages

[Jonathan Wright via epel-devel]

Lance,

I can sponsor/mentor you.  I'll reach out to ya via Mattermost.

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 10:51 AM Lance Albertson  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 9:50 AM Othman Madjoudj 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the
>> message.
>>
>> Best regards
>> -Othman
>>
>>  rpms/mod_limitipconn
>>
>
> I'm interested in maintaining this but I am not a packager yet and would
> need to be onboarded if someone is willing to be a mentor.
>
> Thanks-
>
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Re: [EPEL-devel] Re: Orphaning packages

[Jonathan Wright via devel]

Lance,

I can sponsor/mentor you.  I'll reach out to ya via Mattermost.

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 10:51 AM Lance Albertson  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 9:50 AM Othman Madjoudj 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the
>> message.
>>
>> Best regards
>> -Othman
>>
>>  rpms/mod_limitipconn
>>
>
> I'm interested in maintaining this but I am not a packager yet and would
> need to be onboarded if someone is willing to be a mentor.
>
> Thanks-
>
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[EPEL-devel] Re: Orphaning packages

[Lance Albertson]

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 9:50 AM Othman Madjoudj  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message.
>
> Best regards
> -Othman
>
>  rpms/mod_limitipconn
>

I'm interested in maintaining this but I am not a packager yet and would
need to be onboarded if someone is willing to be a mentor.

Thanks-

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Re: Orphaning packages

[Neil Hanlon]

I've found some folks interested in libmodsecurity and friends. They are not a 
packager yet but I will work on mentoring
and getting them sponsored.

On 23.06.2023 00:27, Neil Hanlon wrote:

I've taken aria2 and thc-ipv6.

Thank you for your contributions, Othman!

--Neil

On 22.06.2023 18:48, Othman Madjoudj wrote:

Hello,

Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message.

Best regards
-Othman


rpms/aria2
rpms/hydra
rpms/libmodsecurity
rpms/lynis
rpms/mod_limitipconn
rpms/mod_qos
rpms/mod_ruid2
rpms/mod_security3
rpms/mod_security_crs
rpms/python-paramiko
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[EPEL-devel] Re: Orphaning packages

[Neil Hanlon]

I've found some folks interested in libmodsecurity and friends. They are not a 
packager yet but I will work on mentoring
and getting them sponsored.

On 23.06.2023 00:27, Neil Hanlon wrote:

I've taken aria2 and thc-ipv6.

Thank you for your contributions, Othman!

--Neil

On 22.06.2023 18:48, Othman Madjoudj wrote:

Hello,

Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message.

Best regards
-Othman


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rpms/lynis
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rpms/mod_qos
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Re: Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

[Sérgio Basto]

On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 18:26 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> After the announcement below today.
> 
> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream
> 

can you elaborate ? centos Stream will be the same source of RHEL , or
RHEL will have the same source of Centos Stream , what is the problem ?

> I will be in 5 days detaching myself and orphaning all packages I
> have involvement with.
> 
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Orphaning packages

[Vitaly Zaitsev via devel]

Hello.

I orphaned the following packages:

rpms/axc
rpms/git-subrepo
rpms/jdns
rpms/maddy
rpms/mdns
rpms/pidgin-groupchat-typing-notifications
rpms/pidgin-privacy-please
rpms/pidgin-toobars
rpms/psi
rpms/psi-plus
rpms/purple-discord
rpms/purple-googlechat
rpms/purple-libsteam
rpms/purple-lurch
rpms/purple-matrix
rpms/purple-plugin_pack
rpms/purple-skypeweb
rpms/python-wloc
rpms/python-networkmanager
rpms/python-pytelegrambotapi
rpms/python-emoji

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Re: Orphaning packages

[Neil Hanlon]

I've taken aria2 and thc-ipv6.

Thank you for your contributions, Othman!

--Neil

On 22.06.2023 18:48, Othman Madjoudj wrote:

Hello,

Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message.

Best regards
-Othman


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[EPEL-devel] Re: Orphaning packages

[Neil Hanlon]

I've taken aria2 and thc-ipv6.

Thank you for your contributions, Othman!

--Neil

On 22.06.2023 18:48, Othman Madjoudj wrote:

Hello,

Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message.

Best regards
-Othman


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rpms/libmodsecurity
rpms/lynis
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Robby Callicotte via devel]

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:48:18 AM CDT Othman Madjoudj wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message.
> 
> Best regards
> -Othman
> 
> 
>  rpms/aria2
>  rpms/hydra
>  rpms/libmodsecurity
>  rpms/lynis
>  rpms/mod_limitipconn
>  rpms/mod_qos
>  rpms/mod_ruid2
>  rpms/mod_security3
>  rpms/mod_security_crs
>  rpms/python-paramiko
>  rpms/thc-ipv6
>  rpms/unhide

I've taken hydra and unhide.

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Re: Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

[Arthur Bols]

On 21/06/2023 19:33, Jonathan Wright via devel wrote:
If you'll add me as admin/owner on the packages I'll continue to 
maintain them.  FAS jonathanspw


Especially interested in remmina since I use it nearly every day.


Hi Jonathan,

If you want help with remmina, you can add me as a co-maintainer.

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Re: Orphaning packages

[Gwyn Ciesla via devel]

I've taken lynis and python-paramiko.

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> Hello,
> Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message.
> 

> Best regards
> -Othman
> 

> 

> rpms/aria2
> rpms/hydra
> rpms/libmodsecurity
> rpms/lynis
> rpms/mod_limitipconn
> rpms/mod_qos
> rpms/mod_ruid2
> rpms/mod_security3
> rpms/mod_security_crs
> rpms/python-paramiko
> rpms/thc-ipv6
> rpms/unhide
> 

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[EPEL-devel] Orphaning packages

[Othman Madjoudj]

Hello,

Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message.

Best regards
-Othman


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 rpms/libmodsecurity
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[Othman Madjoudj]

Hello,

Please note that I've orphaned by packages, list in the end of the message.

Best regards
-Othman


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Re: Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

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On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 12:33 -0500, Jonathan Wright via devel wrote:
> If you'll add me as admin/owner on the packages I'll continue to maintain 
> them.  FAS jonathanspw
> 
> Especially interested in remmina since I use it nearly every day.
> 
> 

Hi,

I have added you with commit access for now as we discussed on Alma Linux 
mattermost chat.

Regards

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Re: Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

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If you'll add me as admin/owner on the packages I'll continue to maintain
them.  FAS jonathanspw

Especially interested in remmina since I use it nearly every day.

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:27 PM Philip Wyett 
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> Hi all,
>
> After the announcement below today.
>
> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream
>
> I will be in 5 days detaching myself and orphaning all packages I have
> involvement with.
>
> Regards
>
> Phil
>
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Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

[Philip Wyett]

Hi all,

After the announcement below today.

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream

I will be in 5 days detaching myself and orphaning all packages I have 
involvement with.

Regards

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Re: Orphaning packages

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I've taken chocolate-doom and gif2png.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 7:53 AM Rahul Sundaram  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have orphaned all the packages I used to maintain but haven't had the
> time to keep up with in a long time.  Feel free to pick them up if you
> like.  All the best.
>
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/chocolate-doom
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gif2png
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ghasher
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/wv
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> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-bottle-sqlite
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Orphaning packages

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi

I have orphaned all the packages I used to maintain but haven't had the
time to keep up with in a long time.  Feel free to pick them up if you
like.  All the best.

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/chocolate-doom
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Orphaning packages

[Paul Frields]

Hi, I've orphaned the following packages for lack of time:

nautilus-search-tool
pinpoint

They are available for someone to pick up if desired.

I'm asking co-maintainers about some other packages I own, and if I get no
response, there may be some more to follow (a few minor drupal7 and PHP
modules, odfpy, and pioneers). Let me know if any appeal to you:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/user/pfrields/projects

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Orphaning packages: multi-git-status, pass-pwned, dayjournal

[Brian (bex) Exelbierd]

Hi,

I've orphaned the following two packages:

* multi-git-status: It scans directory trees of git repos and reports
if they have uncommitted changes, branches not pushed, etc.  It has a
low release cadence, however it has never fit my workflow.

Note: There is a new release pending

* pass-pwned: An extension to the pass password manager that checks
passwords against Have I been Pwned.  This has a low release cadence.
I am orphaning it because I no longer use pass in any significant way.

* dayjournal: A journaling program.  The upstream is dead and never
really had it's act together.  It is an attempt at a compatible
journal (by format) with Day One (v1).  It has not been updated in
years.

If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask.

regards,

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Re: Remove me as comaintainer/commiter - orphaning packages

[Johan Cwiklinski]

Hello,

Le 29/06/2020 à 09:59, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit :
> I went ahead and removed you from these packages.

Thanks.

> Thank you for these years of contributions to Fedora!

It was a great pleasure and experience :-)

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Re: Remove me as comaintainer/commiter - orphaning packages

[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 03:39:34PM +0200, Johan Cwiklinski wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm going to stop packaging, so I've orphaned the following packages I
> was "maintaining":
> - iipsrv
> - glpi
> - php-elvanto-litemoji
> - php-IDNA_Convert
> - php-markdown
> - php-scssphp-scssphp
> - php-simplepie
> - php-true-punycode
> 
> I've removed myself on all packages I was "admin" on, I'd also like to
> be removed as commiter on:
> - php-pear-CAS
> - php-PHPMailer
> - php-Smarty
> - php-zendframework-zend-config
> - php-zendframework-zend-crypt
> - php-zendframework-zend-db
> - php-zendframework-zend-escaper
> - php-zendframework-zend-eventmanager
> - php-zendframework-zend-filter
> - php-zendframework-zend-http
> - php-zendframework-zend-hydrator
> - php-zendframework-zend-i18n
> - php-zendframework-zend-inputfilter
> - php-zendframework-zend-json
> - php-zendframework-zend-loader
> - php-zendframework-zend-math
> - php-zendframework-zend-serializer
> - php-zendframework-zend-servicemanager
> - php-zendframework-zend-session
> - php-zendframework-zend-uri
> - php-zendframework-zend-validator
> - php-zendframework-zend-view
> - swatch

I went ahead and removed you from these packages.

Thank you for these years of contributions to Fedora!

Cheers,
Pierre
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Re: Remove me as comaintainer/commiter - orphaning packages

[Johan Cwiklinski]

Hello again,

I forgot to mention my fas account: trasher


Le 28/06/2020 à 15:39, Johan Cwiklinski a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> I'm going to stop packaging, so I've orphaned the following packages I
> was "maintaining":
> - iipsrv
> - glpi
> - php-elvanto-litemoji
> - php-IDNA_Convert
> - php-markdown
> - php-scssphp-scssphp
> - php-simplepie
> - php-true-punycode
> 
> I've removed myself on all packages I was "admin" on, I'd also like to
> be removed as commiter on:
> - php-pear-CAS
> - php-PHPMailer
> - php-Smarty
> - php-zendframework-zend-config
> - php-zendframework-zend-crypt
> - php-zendframework-zend-db
> - php-zendframework-zend-escaper
> - php-zendframework-zend-eventmanager
> - php-zendframework-zend-filter
> - php-zendframework-zend-http
> - php-zendframework-zend-hydrator
> - php-zendframework-zend-i18n
> - php-zendframework-zend-inputfilter
> - php-zendframework-zend-json
> - php-zendframework-zend-loader
> - php-zendframework-zend-math
> - php-zendframework-zend-serializer
> - php-zendframework-zend-servicemanager
> - php-zendframework-zend-session
> - php-zendframework-zend-uri
> - php-zendframework-zend-validator
> - php-zendframework-zend-view
> - swatch
> 
> I did not find any way to do that.
> 
> Thank you :)
> 

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Remove me as comaintainer/commiter - orphaning packages

[Johan Cwiklinski]

Hello,

I'm going to stop packaging, so I've orphaned the following packages I
was "maintaining":
- iipsrv
- glpi
- php-elvanto-litemoji
- php-IDNA_Convert
- php-markdown
- php-scssphp-scssphp
- php-simplepie
- php-true-punycode

I've removed myself on all packages I was "admin" on, I'd also like to
be removed as commiter on:
- php-pear-CAS
- php-PHPMailer
- php-Smarty
- php-zendframework-zend-config
- php-zendframework-zend-crypt
- php-zendframework-zend-db
- php-zendframework-zend-escaper
- php-zendframework-zend-eventmanager
- php-zendframework-zend-filter
- php-zendframework-zend-http
- php-zendframework-zend-hydrator
- php-zendframework-zend-i18n
- php-zendframework-zend-inputfilter
- php-zendframework-zend-json
- php-zendframework-zend-loader
- php-zendframework-zend-math
- php-zendframework-zend-serializer
- php-zendframework-zend-servicemanager
- php-zendframework-zend-session
- php-zendframework-zend-uri
- php-zendframework-zend-validator
- php-zendframework-zend-view
- swatch

I did not find any way to do that.

Thank you :)
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Miro Hrončok]

On 14. 11. 19 3:02, Othman Madjoudj wrote:

Hello,

Due to time constraints, I'm orphaning packages which I'm not using anymore.

  rpms/python-aiohttp-cors


I've taken this one. It is needed by python-black.

I've also added a %check section and reported some issues upstream:

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-aiohttp-cors/pull-request/1

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Orphaning packages

[Othman Madjoudj]

Hello,

Due to time constraints, I'm orphaning packages which I'm not using anymore.

 rpms/fabric
 rpms/gns3-gui
 rpms/gns3-net-converter
 rpms/gns3-server
 rpms/python-aiohttp-cors
 rpms/python-fluidity-sm
 rpms/python-invoke
 rpms/python-lexicon
 rpms/python-multidict
 rpms/python-spec
 rpms/python-zipstream

Best regards.
-Othman
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Re: orphaning packages recode, python-bibtex, pybliographer

[Petr Pisar]

On 2019-08-15, Zoltan Kota  wrote:
> I am orphaning the following packages:
>
> recode -- The upstream development of recode is not very active, and I
> don't use it anymore.

I use it occasionally. I will take it.

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orphaning packages recode, python-bibtex, pybliographer

[Zoltan Kota]

Hi,

I am orphaning the following packages:

recode -- The upstream development of recode is not very active, and I
don't use it anymore.

python-bibtex -- The upstream develepoment is not very active and it
depends on python2.
See the bug at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1738118

pybliographer -- The upstream develepoment is not very active and it
depends on python2.
See the bug at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1738934

Thanks.
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Gwyn Ciesla via devel]

I'll take abe. https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8519


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‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:51 PM, Jerry James  wrote:

> I am orphaning some packages I no longer use. None of them need any
> immediate maintenance.
> 

> abe: a 2-D scrolling platform game. My kids used to play this when
> they were little. Now my youngest is going to be a sophomore in high
> school in the fall. I'm not quite sure how that happened, but anyway,
> nobody at my house plays this game anymore.
> 

> meataxe: this used to be a dependency of a couple of components of the
> GAP collection of packages, but nowadays everything that needs this
> has the algorithms built in.
> 

> trinity: this is a kernel system call fuzzer. I used to use it 2 jobs
> ago when I was doing Linux kernel work, and have kept it around due to
> inertia. Upstream announced that the current version, 1.9, will be
> the last official release. From now on, users are expected to follow
> the commits on github.
> 

> Regards,
> 

> --
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> Jerry James
> http://www.jamezone.org/
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Orphaning packages

[Jerry James]

I am orphaning some packages I no longer use.  None of them need any
immediate maintenance.

abe: a 2-D scrolling platform game.  My kids used to play this when
they were little.  Now my youngest is going to be a sophomore in high
school in the fall.  I'm not quite sure how that happened, but anyway,
nobody at my house plays this game anymore.

meataxe: this used to be a dependency of a couple of components of the
GAP collection of packages, but nowadays everything that needs this
has the algorithms built in.

trinity: this is a kernel system call fuzzer.  I used to use it 2 jobs
ago when I was doing Linux kernel work, and have kept it around due to
inertia.  Upstream announced that the current version, 1.9, will be
the last official release.  From now on, users are expected to follow
the commits on github.

Regards,
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Alain Vigne]

Hello Kiara

I volunteer to become package maintainer for

   - linsmith

my FAS is: avigne

About piklab, upstream seems dead. I suggest to retire it.

Concerning ahkab (and  python-deltasigma from same author) unfortunately,
project seem to stale and can not compete with ngspice ?

If you think python-deltasigma has some future and merit to stay in Fedora,
I might maintain it. Otherwise, let it be retired.

Best regards
Alain V.


On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:56 PM Kiara Navarro 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just orphaned the following packages:
>
>
>- linsmith
>- python-deltasigma
>- piklab
>- ahkab
>
>
> Feel free to take it if you want to.
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> *K.N*
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Orphaning packages

[Kiara Navarro]

Hi,

I just orphaned the following packages:


   - linsmith
   - python-deltasigma
   - piklab
   - ahkab


Feel free to take it if you want to.

Best regards,

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Orphaning packages

[Raphael Groner]

Hi there,

I orphaned some packages because I don't use them (any more):

tempus-fugit
Java micro-library for time sensitive testing and concurrency.

log4shib
C++ logging library for Shibboleth (OpenSAML)

I've checked with dnf repoquery --whatrequires and none of them have (active) 
parent dependencies.

Please feel free to take those packages if you think they can be still useful 
in Fedora.

Best,
Raphael 
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Orphaning packages

[Germano Massullo]

I am going to orphan the following packages. If anybody wants to take my
place, I will add him as main admin so the packages will not be retired

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-django-model-utils
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-django-netjsongraph
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-libcnml
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-netdiff
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-responses
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-netjsonconfig

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[EPEL-devel] orphaning packages

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

Dear EPEL maintainers,
I've orphaned el6 branches of a couple of old packages:
dx  (11 years since last release)
dx-examples
raidutils   (management tools for 10+yo hardware, no longer developed)
vaspview(16 years since last release)

Regards,
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Orphaning packages

[than]

kde sig is orphaning following packages:

- smokeqt
- smokekde
- qyoto
- kimono
- ruby-qt
- ruby-korundum

because of no upstream support and that they currently FTBFS on
rawhide.

Than
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Dave Young]

> - hstr

Taking this one, thanks!
Dave
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Athos Ribeiro]

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 09:50:57AM +0100, Filip Szymański wrote:
> - python-epub

I am taking this one

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Orphaning packages

[Filip Szymański]

Due to lack of time (new job and personal stuff) I have to orphan a few 
packages.

I hope that they find a new home:

- catimg
- hstr
- python-ansicolor
- python-epub

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Orphaning Packages

[Robert Rati]

Packages without co-maintainers:
condor-ec2-enhanced
condor-ec2-enhanced-hooks
condor-job-hooks
condor-low-latency


Packages with co-admins:
jung
apache-log4j-extras
greenmail
jamon-api
jamon-java-parent
jamon-maven-plugin
jamon-nodegen-plugin
jamon-parent
jamon-processor
jamon-runtime
wso2-wsf-cpp
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Mat Booth]

On 15 October 2016 at 13:21, Gerard Ryan  wrote:

>
>
I adopted these guys:

- eclipse-webtools
- uddi4j
- wsil4j

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Re: Orphaning packages

[Zuzana Svetlikova]

Took nodejs-* packages.

Zuzka

- Original Message -
From: "Gerard Ryan" <gali...@fedoraproject.org>
To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 2:21:44 PM
Subject: Orphaning packages

Hi all,

I no longer use the following packages nor have the time to maintain
them, so I'm going to orphan them:

- aether-connector-okhttp
- dtdparser
- eclipse-jbosstools
- eclipse-m2e-core
- eclipse-webtools
- javaewah
- jboss-classpool-scoped
- jboss-reflect
- jbossxb
- jdf-stacks-client
- jhighlight
- maven-indexer
- minimal-json
- nodejs-acorn
- nodejs-carrier
- nodejs-doctrine
- nodejs-isarray
- nodejs-tern
- nodejs-tern-cordovajs
- nodejs-tern-liferay
- nodejs-typescript
- okhttp
- openshift-java-client
- port-allocator-maven-plugin
- smooks
- takari-filemanager
- takari-local-repository
- truecommons
- truecommons-parent
- truezip
- uddi4j
- wise
- wsil4j

Thanks,
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Mikolaj Izdebski]

On 10/15/2016 02:21 PM, Gerard Ryan wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I no longer use the following packages nor have the time to maintain
> them, so I'm going to orphan them:

Adopted:

aether-connector-okhttp
eclipse-m2e-core
maven-indexer
port-allocator-maven-plugin


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Re: Orphaning packages

[gil]

Il 15/10/2016 14:21, Gerard Ryan ha scritto:

Hi all,

I no longer use the following packages nor have the time to maintain
them, so I'm going to orphan them:

Hi
for now i take these

- dtdparser
- javaewah
- jhighlight



- minimal-json
- okhttp
- openshift-java-client

regards
.g

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Orphaning packages

[Gerard Ryan]

Hi all,

I no longer use the following packages nor have the time to maintain
them, so I'm going to orphan them:

- aether-connector-okhttp
- dtdparser
- eclipse-jbosstools
- eclipse-m2e-core
- eclipse-webtools
- javaewah
- jboss-classpool-scoped
- jboss-reflect
- jbossxb
- jdf-stacks-client
- jhighlight
- maven-indexer
- minimal-json
- nodejs-acorn
- nodejs-carrier
- nodejs-doctrine
- nodejs-isarray
- nodejs-tern
- nodejs-tern-cordovajs
- nodejs-tern-liferay
- nodejs-typescript
- okhttp
- openshift-java-client
- port-allocator-maven-plugin
- smooks
- takari-filemanager
- takari-local-repository
- truecommons
- truecommons-parent
- truezip
- uddi4j
- wise
- wsil4j

Thanks,
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

On Tuesday, 20 September 2016 at 11:44, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:39:20AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > > - gnome-web-photo
> > >   Requires porting to a newer version of WebKit:
> > >   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375837
> > >   I don't think the maintainer (chpe) is still maintaining it upstream
> > 
> > It is just Vincent now because chpe removed himself in commit
> > d738f13028a3512f6f7650dbc91c524b23dc25c8. :) Since Vincent
> > moved on to other projects in 2012, and the last real code commit
> > was in early 2011, I think it is safe to call it dead.
> > 
> > > - xchat-gnome
> > >   I started using Polari for IRC
> > 
> > I think we should drop xchat-gnome since hexchat is a worthy
> > replacement.
> 
> UI-wise, hexchat is horrible.

What's so horrible about it?

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Re: Orphaning packages

[Bastien Nocera]

- Original Message -
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:39:20AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > - gnome-web-photo
> >   Requires porting to a newer version of WebKit:
> >   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375837
> >   I don't think the maintainer (chpe) is still maintaining it upstream
> 
> It is just Vincent now because chpe removed himself in commit
> d738f13028a3512f6f7650dbc91c524b23dc25c8. :) Since Vincent
> moved on to other projects in 2012, and the last real code commit
> was in early 2011, I think it is safe to call it dead.
> 
> > - xchat-gnome
> >   I started using Polari for IRC
> 
> I think we should drop xchat-gnome since hexchat is a worthy
> replacement.

UI-wise, hexchat is horrible. But as I said, I've moved to Polari so
I know the UI to be reasonable :)
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Re: Orphaning packages

[jenslody]

Am 16.09.2016 07:11, schrieb Dan Horák:

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:26:47 +0200
Jens Lody  wrote:


Am Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:39:20 -0400 (EDT)
schrieb Bastien Nocera :
> - gnome-dvb-daemon
>   Is maintained, upstream. Unfortunately, I don't use DVB-T at all
> anymore, but the latest versions should nicely integrate with GNOME
> Videos, by providing a channels list through grilo.
>
I would like to take this, but I have one question about the
versioning. The actual 0.2.90  version is broken anyway and needs some
patches(backports to work, at least on 24. If I remember correctly,
it's the same on 23.
The current git revision (with the grilo-plugin) is internally bumped
to 0.2.91, but not official released.
Whart would be the best way for the versioning ?
A 0.2.90 post-release with checkout date and probably git-hash and
increase release-number or a 0.2.91 pre-release (also with date and
git-hash) ?


I think the pre-release scheme is correct here


Dan


Thank you !

Taken.

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Re: Orphaning packages

[Debarshi Ray]

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:39:20AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> - gnome-web-photo
>   Requires porting to a newer version of WebKit:
>   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375837
>   I don't think the maintainer (chpe) is still maintaining it upstream

It is just Vincent now because chpe removed himself in commit
d738f13028a3512f6f7650dbc91c524b23dc25c8. :) Since Vincent
moved on to other projects in 2012, and the last real code commit
was in early 2011, I think it is safe to call it dead.

> - xchat-gnome
>   I started using Polari for IRC

I think we should drop xchat-gnome since hexchat is a worthy
replacement.

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Re: Orphaning packages

[Dan Horák]

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:26:47 +0200
Jens Lody  wrote:

> Am Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:39:20 -0400 (EDT)
> schrieb Bastien Nocera :
> > - gnome-dvb-daemon
> >   Is maintained, upstream. Unfortunately, I don't use DVB-T at all
> > anymore, but the latest versions should nicely integrate with GNOME
> > Videos, by providing a channels list through grilo.
> > 
> I would like to take this, but I have one question about the
> versioning. The actual 0.2.90  version is broken anyway and needs some
> patches(backports to work, at least on 24. If I remember correctly,
> it's the same on 23.
> The current git revision (with the grilo-plugin) is internally bumped
> to 0.2.91, but not official released.
> Whart would be the best way for the versioning ?
> A 0.2.90 post-release with checkout date and probably git-hash and
> increase release-number or a 0.2.91 pre-release (also with date and
> git-hash) ?

I think the pre-release scheme is correct here


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Re: Orphaning packages

[Jens Lody]

Am Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:39:20 -0400 (EDT)
schrieb Bastien Nocera :
> - gnome-dvb-daemon
>   Is maintained, upstream. Unfortunately, I don't use DVB-T at all
> anymore, but the latest versions should nicely integrate with GNOME
> Videos, by providing a channels list through grilo.
> 
I would like to take this, but I have one question about the versioning.
The actual 0.2.90  version is broken anyway and needs some
patches(backports to work, at least on 24. If I remember correctly,
it's the same on 23.
The current git revision (with the grilo-plugin) is internally bumped
to 0.2.91, but not official released.
Whart would be the best way for the versioning ?
A 0.2.90 post-release with checkout date and probably git-hash and
increase release-number or a 0.2.91 pre-release (also with date and
git-hash) ?

Jens


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Re: Orphaning packages

[Jon Ciesla]

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Bastien Nocera  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> - rhythmbox and libgpod
>   It's still maintained upstream, and the maintainer
>   is responsive. The iPod/Music syncing functionality doesn't work with
>   newer/supported versions of iOS. I'll carry on maintaining those packages
>   in RHEL for the foreseeable future. Hopefully soon replaced by GNOME
> Music
>   in the default Workstation installation.
>   There's also stable and nightly Flatpaks from GNOME
>
> libgpod taken, I need it for gtkpod.  Co-maintainers welcome.

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Orphaning packages

[Bastien Nocera]

Hey,

I've orphaned a number of packages in Fedora:
- vinagre
  Taken over by Felipe Borges, as he's working on migrating
  the remote connection functionality to Boxes

- gnome-web-photo
  Requires porting to a newer version of WebKit:
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375837
  I don't think the maintainer (chpe) is still maintaining it upstream

- rhythmbox and libgpod
  It's still maintained upstream, and the maintainer
  is responsive. The iPod/Music syncing functionality doesn't work with
  newer/supported versions of iOS. I'll carry on maintaining those packages
  in RHEL for the foreseeable future. Hopefully soon replaced by GNOME Music
  in the default Workstation installation.
  There's also stable and nightly Flatpaks from GNOME

- xcf-pixbuf-loader
  The upstream is gone (was on gitorious), though there is a mirror at:
  
http://www.geeqie.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=geeqie/xcf-pixbuf-loader.git;a=summary
  There's a few small crasher bugs. I do not know whether it still supports 
latest
  versions of the XCF format, as it's a format internal to the GIMP.

- gnome-dvb-daemon
  Is maintained, upstream. Unfortunately, I don't use DVB-T at all anymore, but 
the
  latest versions should nicely integrate with GNOME Videos, by providing a 
channels list
  through grilo.

- xchat-gnome
  I started using Polari for IRC

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Re: Orphaning packages

[Peter Lemenkov]

2016-08-30 15:08 GMT+02:00 Antonio Trande :
> On 08/30/2016 11:26 AM, Mario Ceresa wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I'm orphaning the following packages due to not enough time to be a
>> proper mantainer:
>>
>> * dcmtk (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/dcmtk/)
>> * gdcm (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/gdcm/)
>>
>> I'll still be around to help if needed, just can't be the main point of
>> contact.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Mario
>>
>
> These packages are maintained by other packagers; are they still active?

Yes. But as usual co-maintainers are very welcome.

Also one more thing to mention. Mario's packages contains a batch of
out-of-tree patches which better be proposed to upstream. Some of them
were some of them weren't yet. Any help in this particular area is
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Igor Gnatenko]

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Mario Ceresa  wrote:
> Hi Antonio,
> I think Igor took ownership yesterday after I orphaned them
Yes, I took them and added all ACLs for Mario. In week or two I will
go through all bugs and will comment them and update packages.
>
> Best,
> Mario
>
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 at 15:09 Antonio Trande  wrote:
>>
>> On 08/30/2016 11:26 AM, Mario Ceresa wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> > I'm orphaning the following packages due to not enough time to be a
>> > proper mantainer:
>> >
>> > * dcmtk (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/dcmtk/)
>> > * gdcm (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/gdcm/)
>> >
>> > I'll still be around to help if needed, just can't be the main point of
>> > contact.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Mario
>> >
>>
>> These packages are maintained by other packagers; are they still active?
>>
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Mario Ceresa]

Hi Antonio,
I think Igor took ownership yesterday after I orphaned them

Best,
Mario

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 at 15:09 Antonio Trande  wrote:

> On 08/30/2016 11:26 AM, Mario Ceresa wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I'm orphaning the following packages due to not enough time to be a
> > proper mantainer:
> >
> > * dcmtk (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/dcmtk/)
> > * gdcm (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/gdcm/)
> >
> > I'll still be around to help if needed, just can't be the main point of
> > contact.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Mario
> >
>
> These packages are maintained by other packagers; are they still active?
>
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Antonio Trande]

On 08/30/2016 11:26 AM, Mario Ceresa wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm orphaning the following packages due to not enough time to be a
> proper mantainer:
> 
> * dcmtk (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/dcmtk/)
> * gdcm (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/gdcm/)
> 
> I'll still be around to help if needed, just can't be the main point of
> contact.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mario
> 

These packages are maintained by other packagers; are they still active?

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Orphaning packages

[Mario Ceresa]

Dear all,
I'm orphaning the following packages due to not enough time to be a proper
mantainer:

* InsightToolkit (
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/InsightToolkit/)
* dcmtk (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/dcmtk/)
* gdcm (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/gdcm/)
* vxl (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/vxl/)
* CharLS (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/CharLS/)
* expatpp (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/expatpp/)
* octave-dicom (
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/octave-dicom/)
* rply (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/rply/)

I'll still be around to help if needed, just can't be the main point of
contact.

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Re: Orphaning packages

[Jon Ciesla]

On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Cosimo Cecchi 
wrote:

> I just orphaned the following packages:
>
> - abattis-cantarell-fonts (devel, F24, F23, F22, EPEL6)
> - anjuta (devel, F24, F23, F22)
>


Taken.


> - gnome-themes-standard (devel, F24, F23, F22)
> - gnome-weather (devel, F24, F23, F22)
>
> See https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/5229 for
> context.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: Orphaning packages

[Igor Gnatenko]

- Original Message -
> From: "Cosimo Cecchi" <cosimo.cec...@gmail.com>
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" 
> <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 11:02:36 PM
> Subject: Orphaning packages
> 
> I just orphaned the following packages:
> 
> - abattis-cantarell-fonts (devel, F24, F23, F22, EPEL6)
> - anjuta (devel, F24, F23, F22)
> - gnome-themes-standard (devel, F24, F23, F22)
Taken (devel, f24)
> - gnome-weather (devel, F24, F23, F22)
Taken (devel, f24)
> 
> See https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/5229 for context.
> 
> Thanks,
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Orphaning packages

[Cosimo Cecchi]

I just orphaned the following packages:

- abattis-cantarell-fonts (devel, F24, F23, F22, EPEL6)
- anjuta (devel, F24, F23, F22)
- gnome-themes-standard (devel, F24, F23, F22)
- gnome-weather (devel, F24, F23, F22)

See https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/5229 for context.

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Orphaning packages (i)

[Christopher Meng]

Hi folks,

I decide to orphan some packages I won't use anymore, here is the first part.

---
flickcurl (EPEL branches preserved, if anyone want to take, let me know)
python-couchdbkit
python-foolscap
python-zbase32
libtsm
redet
sitecopy
surf
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Re: Orphaning packages (i)

[Athmane Madjoudj]

Hi

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Christopher Meng  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I decide to orphan some packages I won't use anymore, here is the first
> part.
>
>

I've took:

python-couchdbkit
python-foolscap


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Orphaning Packages / Looking for Maintainers

[Sebastian Dziallas]

Hi, all.

I realize I should have done this a long time ago, but perhaps better 
now than never. I haven't been around in the Fedora community in a while 
and it looks like life will keep me busy for the foreseeable future. As 
a result, I'm looking for maintainers for the following packages in 
Fedora, most of which are Sugar related.


* gstreamer-plugins-espeak
* pybox2d
* python-elements
* python-oauth
* sugar-logos
* sugar-physics
* sugar-tamtam

There are more packages which currently have a co-maintainer, but I 
suspect it would make sense to transition ownership away from me. So if 
those of you (or someone else) wanted to pick those up, that would be 
great: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/sdz/


If you want to claim any of these, please let me know. I'll otherwise 
orphan them in about a day or two.


Cheers,

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Re: Orphaning Packages / Looking for Maintainers

[Nikos Roussos]

On 09/27/2014 07:13 PM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
 * python-oauth

I can take this




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Re: Orphaning Packages / Looking for Maintainers

[Sebastian Dziallas]

On 09/27/2014 05:13 PM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

* gstreamer-plugins-espeak
* pybox2d
* python-elements
* python-oauth
* sugar-logos
* sugar-physics
* sugar-tamtam


All gone. That was fast. Thanks!

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