[digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission protection
Dave, Using the WINMOR busy detector for Pactor sounds like a workable idea. The WINMOR busy detector hasn't yet been integrated into other WL2K Pactor Servers but it could be. The basic WINMOR TNC application (the virtual TNC) has the function but would need to be integrated into the Pactor driver for the SCS. When Vic gets back from vacation I'll talk to him about this and when we might be able to do that. 73, Rick Muething, KN6KB
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission protection
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Rick Muething rmueth...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Dave, Using the WINMOR busy detector for Pactor sounds like a workable idea. The WINMOR busy detector hasn’t yet been integrated into other WL2K Pactor Servers but it could be. The basic WINMOR TNC application (the virtual TNC) has the function but would need to be integrated into the Pactor driver for the SCS. When Vic gets back from vacation I’ll talk to him about this and when we might be able to do that. 73, Rick Muething, KN6KB That could be the development of the year. Andy K3UK http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and spots all in one (resize to suit)Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Who Is QRV on ALE
Overnight, I placed my rig on an 8-band scan using standard ALE (no soundings from me) . 11 stations captured at various times. [12:39:01][FRQ 07102000][SND][ ][TWS][N0PWZ ][AL0] BER 27 SN 05 [12:31:16][FRQ 03596000][SND][ ][TWS][KC2PUA ][AL0] BER 30 SN 08 [11:23:23][FRQ 10145500][SND][ ][TWS][VK5ABN ][AL0] BER 27 SN 04 [11:09:34][FRQ 03596000][SND][ ][TWS][WD8ARZ ][AL0] BER 30 SN 07 [[10:49:50][FRQ 03596000][SND][ ][TWS][N2CKH ][AL0] BER 29 SN 07 [10:35:22][FRQ 03596000][SND][ ][TWS][KB3JAJ ][AL0] BER 30 SN 07 [06:04:34][FRQ 03596000][SND][ ][TWS][KR4K ][AL0] BER 20 SN 06 [03:29:24][FRQ 03596000][SND][ ][TWS][KB3JAJ ][AL0] BER 27 SN 06 [02:35:26][FRQ 03596000][TO ][KJ4AYT ][TIS][K2MO ][AL0] BER 20 SN 04 [02:28:17][FRQ 07102000][SND][ ][TWS][KJ4AYT ][AL0] BER 24 SN 05 [02:07:44][FRQ 14109000][SND][ ][TWS][KI6TCB ][AL0] BER 30 SN 07 I heard the above at different times on different bands, this is just a list of the stations heard at least once. Interesting 30M opening to VK5-land. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Scanning on the 3's today.
I am scanning 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123, today. Anyone looking for a digital mode QSO is welcome . I am scanning in ALE 400 mode BUT if I hear another mode while scanning, I pause the scan and see who it is. Just had a nice Olivia 16/500 QSO (for an hour!) with W5ZIT who I detected on 14073 while scanning (with 3 kHZ filter, no narrow settings) . Also KB0QC in MFSK16 on 14074.5 . For those interested in multiband scanning , aside from actually programming your rig to do the scanning, several applications make it easy to do Commander Multipsk (using ALE and customized frequency settings ) PC-ALE (with ALE) Vary the settings long enough so that you can hear a station within your passband as the scan progresses. 2 seconds per channel is usually good enough and reduces the chance of missing someone while you are on another frequency. A 3 kHz filter setting will allow you to hear most of the none PSK31 traffic if you use 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123, . I did not use 7033 for European traffic. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Scanning on the 3's today.
Andy, Same problem with your scanning station as with Winlink scanning stations! I am unable to know what frequency to listen on to see if I hear you in QSO, so if I hear nothing, I call just for you, assuming you may hear me. If you do not respond, I do not know if propagation is not good, or you are tied up on another scanned frequency in QSO. Whereas, if you were NOT scanning, I could just try calling you on one of the listed frequencies. If I heard traffic on that frequency, it would either be you or someone else. In any event, if you are in QSO with someone, I will transmit for you over and over, taking up a frequency someone else could use, and never connect with you until you are done. I called for you in Olivia 16-500 on each of the listed frequencies from 12:30 to 12:39 when I began to write this. Each frequency was clear when I called, of course, but never heard any reply. Seems like YOU should just be calling CQ, or calling for me for a sked and I should be the one doing the scanning and finding you! That way, you are not automatic and can verify the frequency is clear before calling CQ. That gives me a chance to check each band to see if you are on. This way, I do not take up a frequency calling for you when you are unavailable because you are busy elsewhere. Does this make sense? 73 - Skip KH6TY Andy obrien wrote: I am scanning 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123, today. Anyone looking for a digital mode QSO is welcome . I am scanning in ALE 400 mode BUT if I hear another mode while scanning, I pause the scan and see who it is. Just had a nice Olivia 16/500 QSO (for an hour!) with W5ZIT who I detected on 14073 while scanning (with 3 kHZ filter, no narrow settings) . Also KB0QC in MFSK16 on 14074.5 . For those interested in multiband scanning , aside from actually programming your rig to do the scanning, several applications make it easy to do Commander Multipsk (using ALE and customized frequency settings ) PC-ALE (with ALE) Vary the settings long enough so that you can hear a station within your passband as the scan progresses. 2 seconds per channel is usually good enough and reduces the chance of missing someone while you are on another frequency. A 3 kHz filter setting will allow you to hear most of the none PSK31 traffic if you use 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123, . I did not use 7033 for European traffic. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Scanning on the 3's today.
Well , using ALE principles, I should have my scan passes timed so that anyone that calls me, I can hear. i.e. , a call time is of sufficient duration that a complete scan can be achieved . On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote: Andy, Same problem with your scanning station as with Winlink scanning stations! I am unable to know what frequency to listen on to see if I hear you in QSO, so if I hear nothing, I call just for you, assuming you may hear me. If you do not respond, I do not know if propagation is not good, or you are tied up on another scanned frequency in QSO. Whereas, if you were NOT scanning, I could just try calling you on one of the listed frequencies. If I heard traffic on that frequency, it would either be you or someone else. In any event, if you are in QSO with someone, I will transmit for you over and over, taking up a frequency someone else could use, and never connect with you until you are done. I called for you in Olivia 16-500 on each of the listed frequencies from 12:30 to 12:39 when I began to write this. Each frequency was clear when I called, of course, but never heard any reply. Seems like YOU should just be calling CQ, or calling for me for a sked and I should be the one doing the scanning and finding you! That way, you are not automatic and can verify the frequency is clear before calling CQ. That gives me a chance to check each band to see if you are on. This way, I do not take up a frequency calling for you when you are unavailable because you are busy elsewhere. Does this make sense? 73 - Skip KH6TY Andy obrien wrote: I am scanning 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123, today. Anyone looking for a digital mode QSO is welcome . I am scanning in ALE 400 mode BUT if I hear another mode while scanning, I pause the scan and see who it is. Just had a nice Olivia 16/500 QSO (for an hour!) with W5ZIT who I detected on 14073 while scanning (with 3 kHZ filter, no narrow settings) . Also KB0QC in MFSK16 on 14074.5 . For those interested in multiband scanning , aside from actually programming your rig to do the scanning, several applications make it easy to do Commander Multipsk (using ALE and customized frequency settings ) PC-ALE (with ALE) Vary the settings long enough so that you can hear a station within your passband as the scan progresses. 2 seconds per channel is usually good enough and reduces the chance of missing someone while you are on another frequency. A 3 kHz filter setting will allow you to hear most of the none PSK31 traffic if you use 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123, . I did not use 7033 for European traffic. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] List of RS ID figures updated with the Packet (+APRS) in BPSK31 modulation
Hello to all,
Just for information, here is the updated list of RS ID (addition of Packet in
PSK31).
73
Patrick
IF NUMBER=1 THEN MODE:='BPSK31' ELSE
IF NUMBER=2 THEN MODE:='BPSK63' ELSE
IF NUMBER=3 THEN MODE:='QPSK63' ELSE
IF NUMBER=4 THEN MODE:='BPSK125' ELSE
IF NUMBER=5 THEN MODE:='QPSK125' ELSE
IF NUMBER=7 THEN MODE:='PSKFEC31' ELSE
IF NUMBER=8 THEN MODE:='PSK10' ELSE
{MT63 parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: 500, 1000 (1000 Hz) or
2000 (2000 Hz),
parameter 2: LG (Long), ST (Short) or VST (Very short)
Example: MT63-1000-LG}
IF NUMBER=9 THEN MODE:='MT63-500-LG' ELSE
IF NUMBER=10 THEN MODE:='MT63-500-ST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=11 THEN MODE:='MT63-500-VST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=12 THEN MODE:='MT63-1000-LG' ELSE
IF NUMBER=13 THEN MODE:='MT63-1000-ST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=14 THEN MODE:='MT63-1000-VST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=15 THEN MODE:='MT63-2000-LG' ELSE
IF NUMBER=17 THEN MODE:='MT63-2000-ST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=18 THEN MODE:='MT63-2000-VST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=19 THEN MODE:='PSKAM10' ELSE
IF NUMBER=20 THEN MODE:='PSKAM31' ELSE
IF NUMBER=21 THEN MODE:='PSKAM50' ELSE
IF NUMBER=22 THEN MODE:='PSK63F' ELSE
IF NUMBER=23 THEN MODE:='PSK220F' ELSE
{CHIP 64 parameter 1 (parameter 1: 64 or 128), Example: CHIP-64}
IF NUMBER=24 THEN MODE:='CHIP-64' ELSE
IF NUMBER=25 THEN MODE:='CHIP-128' ELSE
IF NUMBER=26 THEN MODE:='CW' ELSE
{CCW parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: OOK or FSK,
parameter 2: 12 (12 wpm), 24 (24 wpm) or 48 (48 wpm)
Examples: CCW-OOK-12 or CCW-FSK-24}
IF NUMBER=27 THEN MODE:='CCW-OOK-12' ELSE
IF NUMBER=28 THEN MODE:='CCW-OOK-24' ELSE
IF NUMBER=29 THEN MODE:='CCW-OOK-48' ELSE
IF NUMBER=30 THEN MODE:='CCW-FSK-12' ELSE
IF NUMBER=31 THEN MODE:='CCW-FSK-24' ELSE
IF NUMBER=33 THEN MODE:='CCW-FSK-48' ELSE
{Pactor1 ARQ not RX/TX in Multipsk 4.1.1}
IF NUMBER=34 THEN MODE:='PACTOR1-FEC' ELSE
{PACKET parameter 1 (parameter 1: 300 (bauds) or 1200 (bauds)),Example:
PACKET-300}
IF NUMBER=35 THEN MODE:='PACKET-300' ELSE
IF NUMBER=36 THEN MODE:='PACKET-1200' ELSE
{ASCII parameter 1 (parameter 1: 7 (7 bits) or 8 (8 bits)), Example:
ASCII-7}
IF NUMBER=37 THEN MODE:='ASCII-7' ELSE
IF NUMBER=38 THEN MODE:='ASCII-8' ELSE
{RTTY parameter 1 (parameter 1: 45 (45 bauds), 50 (50 bauds), 75 (75
bauds)), Example: RTTY-45}
IF NUMBER=39 THEN MODE:='RTTY-45' ELSE
IF NUMBER=40 THEN MODE:='RTTY-50' ELSE
IF NUMBER=41 THEN MODE:='RTTY-75' ELSE
IF NUMBER=42 THEN MODE:='AMTOR FEC' ELSE
{THROB parameter 1 (parameter 1: 1 (1 baud), 2 (2 bauds) or 4 (4
bauds)), Example: THROB-2}
IF NUMBER=43 THEN MODE:='THROB-1' ELSE
IF NUMBER=44 THEN MODE:='THROB-2' ELSE
IF NUMBER=45 THEN MODE:='THROB-4' ELSE
{THROBX parameter 1 (parameter 1: 1 (1 baud) or 2 (2 bauds)), Example:
THROBX-2}
IF NUMBER=46 THEN MODE:='THROBX-1' ELSE
IF NUMBER=47 THEN MODE:='THROBX-2' ELSE
{CONTESTIA parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: 4 (4 tones), 8 (8
tones), 16 (16 tones), 32 (32 tones), parameter 2: 250 (B=250 Hz), 500
(B=500 Hz) or 1000 (B=1000 Hz))...same parameters as OLIVIA
Examples: CONTESTIA-32-1000 or CONTESTIA-8-500
Note: the following are the main Contestia modes:
CONTESTIA-4-250, CONTESTIA-4-500, CONTESTIA-8-250, CONTESTIA-8-500,
CONTESTIA-16-500, CONTESTIA-16-1000, CONTESTIA-32-1000}
IF NUMBER=49 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-8-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=50 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-16-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=51 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-32-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=52 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-8-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=53 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-16-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=54 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-4-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=55 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-4-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=56 THEN MODE:='VOICE' ELSE
IF NUMBER=57 THEN MODE:='MFSK16' ELSE
IF NUMBER=60 THEN MODE:='MFSK8' ELSE
{RTTYM parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: 4 (4 tones), 8 (8 tones),
16 (16 tones), 32 (32 tones), parameter 2: 250 (B=250 Hz), 500 (B=500
Hz) or 1000 (B=1000 Hz))...same parameters as OLIVIA
Examples: RTTYM-32-1000 or RTTYM-8-500
Note: the following are the main RTTYM modes: RTTYM-4-250, RTTYM-4-500,
RTTYM-8-250, RTTYM-8-500, RTTYM-16-500, RTTYM-16-1000, RTTYM-32-1000}
IF NUMBER=61 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-8-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=62 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-16-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=63 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-32-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=65 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-8-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=66 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-16-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=67 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-4-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=68 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-4-250' ELSE
{OLIVIA parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: 4 (4 tones), 8 (8 tones),
16 (16 tones), 32 (32 tones), parameter 2: 250 (B=250 Hz), 500 (B=500
Hz) or 1000 (B=1000 Hz))
Examples: OLIVIA-32-1000 or OLIVIA-8-500
Note: the following are the main Olivia modes: OLIVIA-4-250, OLIVIA-4-500,
OLIVIA-8-250, OLIVIA-8-500, OLIVIA-16-500, OLIVIA-16-1000, OLIVIA-32-1000}
IF NUMBER=69 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-8-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=70 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-16-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=71 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-32-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=72 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-8-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=73 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-16-1000' ELSE
IF
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission protection
AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Rick Muething Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:11 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: 'Vic Poor' Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission protection Dave, Using the WINMOR busy detector for Pactor sounds like a workable idea. The WINMOR busy detector hasn't yet been integrated into other WL2K Pactor Servers but it could be. The basic WINMOR TNC application (the virtual TNC) has the function but would need to be integrated into the Pactor driver for the SCS. When Vic gets back from vacation I'll talk to him about this and when we might be able to do that. Rick and Vick, that would be a huge positive step. If there is any way I can help with this, please let me know. 73, Dave, AA6YQ .
Re: [digitalradio] Scanning on the 3's today.
Sure, you may, if propagation is favorable, and ONLY if you are not in an extended QSO with anyone. Meanwhile, I would just be transmitting into cyberspace! Let's set up a schedule at a specific time and band, have a short QSO, and then you scan right afterward and see if you pick me up. 73 - Skip KH6TY Andy obrien wrote: Well , using ALE principles, I should have my scan passes timed so that anyone that calls me, I can hear. i.e. , a call time is of sufficient duration that a complete scan can be achieved . On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net mailto:kh...@comcast.net wrote: Andy, Same problem with your scanning station as with Winlink scanning stations! I am unable to know what frequency to listen on to see if I hear you in QSO, so if I hear nothing, I call just for you, assuming you may hear me. If you do not respond, I do not know if propagation is not good, or you are tied up on another scanned frequency in QSO. Whereas, if you were NOT scanning, I could just try calling you on one of the listed frequencies. If I heard traffic on that frequency, it would either be you or someone else. In any event, if you are in QSO with someone, I will transmit for you over and over, taking up a frequency someone else could use, and never connect with you until you are done. I called for you in Olivia 16-500 on each of the listed frequencies from 12:30 to 12:39 when I began to write this. Each frequency was clear when I called, of course, but never heard any reply. Seems like YOU should just be calling CQ, or calling for me for a sked and I should be the one doing the scanning and finding you! That way, you are not automatic and can verify the frequency is clear before calling CQ. That gives me a chance to check each band to see if you are on. This way, I do not take up a frequency calling for you when you are unavailable because you are busy elsewhere. Does this make sense? 73 - Skip KH6TY Andy obrien wrote: I am scanning 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123, today. Anyone looking for a digital mode QSO is welcome . I am scanning in ALE 400 mode BUT if I hear another mode while scanning, I pause the scan and see who it is. Just had a nice Olivia 16/500 QSO (for an hour!) with W5ZIT who I detected on 14073 while scanning (with 3 kHZ filter, no narrow settings) . Also KB0QC in MFSK16 on 14074.5 . For those interested in multiband scanning , aside from actually programming your rig to do the scanning, several applications make it easy to do Commander Multipsk (using ALE and customized frequency settings ) PC-ALE (with ALE) Vary the settings long enough so that you can hear a station within your passband as the scan progresses. 2 seconds per channel is usually good enough and reduces the chance of missing someone while you are on another frequency. A 3 kHz filter setting will allow you to hear most of the none PSK31 traffic if you use 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123, . I did not use 7033 for European traffic. Andy K3UK
