Re: [digitalradio] Digital Mode tests this evening - FLDIGI

2010-04-17 Thread Tony

Hello Skip,

On 4/16/2010 4:24 AM, KH6TY wrote:


Hi Tony,

The aircraft reflections are usually recognizable.


They certainly are - especially at UHF.

You can hear the pulsations in the background noise change in rate as 
the airplane flies around and sometimes even see the frequency shift 
on the waterfall,


SBSpectrum (Peter Martinez) can reveal the inaudible Doppler shifts as 
well. I suspect the weaker, underlying Doppler you can't hear can cause 
interference with certain modes.


 Since Contestia and Olivia keep printing after the transmission has 
ceased, I suspect that the interleaving and redundancy is carrying 
enough data over the peaks and valleys that we hear to produce perfect 
print, but I am no theorist on this, for sure!



Seems like a reasonable analogy Skip.

It would be interesting to see these effects Skip. Feel free to send a 
few screen-shots.


Thanks,

Tony -K2MO




   



Tony wrote:


FWIW, PSK125R does not survive the Doppler disturbances on UHF. 
Olivia or Contestia does. Therefore, the mode we have found works 
best under the severe conditions of multipath, Doppler shift, 
Doppler spread, and very weak signals is Contestia 16-500 at 30 wpm. 
the minimum S/N is -12 dB, which is essential for weak signal UHF 
and VHF digital operation as every dB of S/N we can get is important 
for weak signal work.


73 - Skip KH6TY
   


Skip,

Thanks for the info. The path simulator results seem to agree with 
your observations on the high bands. I bet you have a fair share of 
problems with aircraft Doppler? I've noticed multiple 
reflections from multiple aircraft while monitoring VHF beacons. 
Spectrum analysis reveals how great those Doppler shifts can be; the 
mixing of 2 or 3 multipath signals can play havoc with throughput. .


While it's not quite the same, we didn't get a chance to test on HF 
today. Andy tried his best to accomodate (always there for us Andy), 
but conditions weren't good between us on 80 meters. Tomorrows 
another day.


Thanks again.

Tony -K2MO






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Re: [digitalradio] Youtube Video of JT65-HF

2010-04-17 Thread Jon Maguire

Hi Frank,

It's supposed to be at

http://w6cqz-hf-wsjt.googlecode.com/files//setupJT65/-/HF1051/./zip

but isn't found.

73... Jon W1MNK
/
On 4/15/2010 8:16 PM, Frank MacDonell wrote:


Andy - What is the website to download JT65-HF? Tnx.

Frank MacDonell
KD8FIP

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM, obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com 
mailto:k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:


While I am still a fan of JT65A as part of the WSJT program, I
also use JT65A in Multipsk and also in JT65-HF by W4CQZ. JT65-HF
is my favourite, works very well and is VERY easy to figure out. I
just put a quick video of it up on Youtube at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM9Ai_bHr0o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM9Ai_bHr0o

This is without sound because I am testing camstudio software
thanks to a tip from K2MO, still have not sussed the audio settings.

Andy K3UK




--
Frank KD8FIP




Re: [digitalradio] Youtube Video of JT65-HF

2010-04-17 Thread Andy obrien
The software is still in beta testing and usually available via that link
but has been taken down for a little while , the author is trying to sort
out some international export regulations.

Andy

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jon Maguire w1...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:



 Hi Frank,

 It's supposed to be at

 http://w6cqz-hf-wsjt.googlecode.com/files/*setupJT65*-*HF1051*.*zip

 but isn't found.

 73... Jon W1MNK
 *

 On 4/15/2010 8:16 PM, Frank MacDonell wrote:



 Andy - What is the website to download JT65-HF? Tnx.
 Frank MacDonell
 KD8FIP

 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM, obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:



 While I am still a fan of JT65A as part of the WSJT program, I also use
 JT65A in Multipsk and also in JT65-HF by W4CQZ. JT65-HF is my favourite,
 works very well and is VERY easy to figure out. I just put a quick video of
 it up on Youtube at
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM9Ai_bHr0o

 This is without sound because I am testing camstudio software thanks to a
 tip from K2MO, still have not sussed the audio settings.

 Andy K3UK




 --
 Frank KD8FIP





Re: [digitalradio] Youtube Video of JT65-HF

2010-04-17 Thread Jon Maguire

Andy,

That's fine. I'll keep checking for it. CU on FB

73... Jon W1MNK

On 4/17/2010 4:37 PM, Andy obrien wrote:


The software is still in beta testing and usually available via that 
link but has been taken down for a little while , the author is trying 
to sort out some international export regulations.


Andy

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jon Maguire w1...@tampabay.rr.com 
mailto:w1...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:


Hi Frank,

It's supposed to be at

http://w6cqz-hf-wsjt.googlecode.com/files/
http://w6cqz-hf-wsjt.googlecode.com/files//setupJT65/-/HF1051/./zip

but isn't found.

73... Jon W1MNK
/


On 4/15/2010 8:16 PM, Frank MacDonell wrote:


Andy - What is the website to download JT65-HF? Tnx.

Frank MacDonell
KD8FIP

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM, obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com
mailto:k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:

While I am still a fan of JT65A as part of the WSJT program,
I also use JT65A in Multipsk and also in JT65-HF by W4CQZ.
JT65-HF is my favourite, works very well and is VERY easy to
figure out. I just put a quick video of it up on Youtube at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM9Ai_bHr0o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM9Ai_bHr0o

This is without sound because I am testing camstudio software
thanks to a tip from K2MO, still have not sussed the audio
settings.

Andy K3UK




-- 
Frank KD8FIP







[digitalradio] Sparse activity in TARA Skirmish

2010-04-17 Thread kb2hsh
After a few hours on and off operating the TARA Skirmish, it appears as though 
there aren't too many interested in this contest.

Hopefully, there will be more activity today.  Interestingly, I have made more 
Q's using PSK125 than 31.  

73 de John KB2HSH 



Re: [digitalradio] Sparse activity in TARA Skirmish

2010-04-17 Thread Andy obrien
I think the nasty broad signals and the AGC capturing effects of strong PSK
signals are slowing reducing the amount of people who find BPSK31 a useful
contest mode.

Andy K3UK


On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 8:27 AM, kb2hsh kb2...@amsat.org wrote:



 After a few hours on and off operating the TARA Skirmish, it appears as
 though there aren't too many interested in this contest.

 Hopefully, there will be more activity today. Interestingly, I have made
 more Q's using PSK125 than 31.

 73 de John KB2HSH