[digitalradio] Re: Network 105 and Multipsk
George, I'm glad to hear that your enjoying the extra time being semi-retired and congratulations on the new Icom rig. downloaded multi psk on my xp machine and I have been working rtty and psk no interest in VHF packet but I would like to try HF packet appreciate your help Tony Multipsk runs fine on packet. It's a bit more involved, but it's not difficult to setup. If you're anxious to get going, you can give Network-105 a try on 14105 LSB. I'm sending you screen shot of Multipsk with the HF packet functions highlighted. This should help you get started. The circled items are pretty much self-explanatory. I understand the situation with your email account so I've uploaded the image to a server: http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/52485416/file.html (click the image to enlarge) Once you get setup, you may wish to monitor 105 for a while to pick out the stronger signals. Make sure your rig is in LSB and that the mark / space tones are 1600 / 1800. You can fine tune the signal in the waterfall as needed. Something to consider George is that a solid connection is best to maintain good throughput: Try to avoid long-haul connects if signals are marginal. Network coverage is excellent so you shouldn't have any trouble finding a station within single-hop range. Once you connect, the menu will look something like this: [KAM-XL-1.0-HM$] 451320 BYTES AVAILABLE IN 141 BLOCKS THERE ARE 60 MESSAGES NUMBERED 2-206 Welcome to Pensacola Packet Station AB4KR ENTER COMMAND: B,J,K,L,R,S, or Help Using AB4KR's connect as an example: B - prompts the system to disconnect J - lists other stations heard by AB4KR K - kills messages that you've sent, ie, K 3 means remove message number 3. L - is used to list messages; shows PBBS messages stored in AB4KR's mailbox. R - is used to read a specific message; the command R 3 will allow you to read message #3. S - lets you send and store a message in AB4KR's mailbox. To send a message, use command S + the call sign of the person you wish to send the message to. The system will prompt you to enter a subject for the message being sent. Once you've finished typing the message, type /EX; this will cue the system to store your message. You can always type HELP if your not sure. Lets get together one night on the local repeater George. We can always arrange something where you can connect to me on HF and I'll talk you through on 2 meters. I run a Kam Plus which is basically the same TNC that the folks use on Net-105. A little practice goes a long way. Tony -K2MO
[digitalradio] IMPORTANT!!!! A CHANGE TO THE TIMES OF THE FELD HELL HAMVENTION SPRINT
It was just pointed out the Hamvention ends an hour BEFORE the original end of the second session of our Sprint, so we are moving both sessions up by two hours. THE FELD HELL HAMVENTION SPRINT WILL NOW BE HELD DURING THESE 2 TWO-HOUR SESSIONS: 1400Z - 1600Z AND 1800Z-2000Z Work one, work both, but you will submit your score from only one session at http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dGsxekJQNnJRaXZXT25IaE1ienlhYlE6MA For more details on the Sprint, visit the club website at http://sites.google.com/site/feldhellclub/Home/jansprint
Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal
On Tuesday 11 May 2010 05:12:07 you wrote: From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 Time: 21:18:20 I will probably suggest that they authorize PS31, MFSK16 and Winmor 500 if they are going to get mode specific. Andy K3UK Andy Does the FCC *really* have to specify all the permissible modes? Surely all that's important is to permit CW, SSB and narrow-band data (say, max 500 Hz) of *any* flavor that is permitted in Part97. Restricting data to just two or three modes is very short-sighted. If these modes become outdated, or ground-breaking new modes appear on the scene, you will have to keep going back to FCC to get the license conditions changed. To start off, I am not against any particular mode and only have just enough HF experience to enjoy the bands and current modes and understand the limits of most. From what I am seeing so far in this thread of emails is that the ARRL(?) is proposing to have ANOTHER avenue for so-called EMCOMM communications. Is this for long-haul or local as in State, Regional, or Country application? Currently there are three different operating systems as I will call them that can and should be used on the HF bands that already authorize them: 1) Winlink 2) PSKMail 3) unattended Packet stations be it Pactor# or 300baud AX25 or APRS Can it be 'justified' to 'clog up' a new band with allowing ANY digital mode, and I am also including digitized voice into this, just to have it be there? Why not use what is already staged and developed and on the bands that already have the allocations? I personally don't see any reason to 'clog up' any more frequency allocations just to have something sitting there. Use what is already in place and leave some spectrum alone for a change. We need to manage what we have better than we have. Consider doing like was done with the WARC bands and contesting. Adding modes to a new band to me is a WASTE of precious spectrum. GIve it ten years at least before even proposing a change to a new band. Before anyone says I am anti-EMCOMM. I do particapate in my local and State EMCOMMs when I can and enjoy helping out. I just don't see Amatuer Radio as the ultimate Swiss Army knife either. There are other under utilized avenues for getting a message from point A to Point B during any event. You just need to know how to utilize ALL of them properly. James W8ISS
RE: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal
You have repeatedly used the term, Clog Up . Have you listened to 60M at all? I rarely hear ANY ham traffic on any of the 5 channels whenever I look. Given the light usage already in place, I do not see an issue with adding digital modes. Ed K7AAT = Can it be 'justified' to 'clog up' a new band with allowing ANY digital mode, and I am also including digitized voice into this, just to have it be there? Why not use what is already staged and developed and on the bands that already have the allocations? I personally don't see any reason to 'clog up' any more frequency allocations just to have something sitting there
[digitalradio] Apologies --- Network 105 / Multipsk
All, Re: [digitalradio] Network 105 and Multipsk Sorry about my last post - it wasn't intended for the reflector. Tony -K2MO
[digitalradio] Network 105 / Multipsk
Hello to all, About this net, I received an intyeresting mail from Sholto: 73 Patrick *** I have a little explanation for the HF packet network. I hope it helps:- First see the attached map. It shows most of the important nodes on Network 105. The parameters for HF are: MARK: 14103.42 KHz SPACE: 14103.22 KHz HBAUD: 300 PACLEN: 60 FRACK: 5 MAXFRAME: 1 SSID's used are:- Absent: Direct QSO -1: Mail drop -2: Gateway digipeater -7: Node -10: Winlink 2000 RMS The nodes are used to hop around the network instead of digipeating which is inefficient. ACK frames are handled by node-node connections rather than stations themselves. For instance. If I want to talk to Burt, VE1AMA I could first connect to W0TX-7 in Colorado. When connected I would see this:- ###CONNECTED TO NODE W0TX-7(W0TX) CHANNEL A Denver Radio Club 145.0514.105 (www.w0tx.org) ENTER COMMAND: B,C,J,N,X, or Help ? The commands on this node mean: B - BYE C - CONNECT TO ANOTHER STATION J - SHOW THE HEARD LIST (FROM W0TX) X - CONNECT TO ANOTHER STATION ON SECONDARY PORT (OFTEN VHF) Now I might be able to reach VE1AMA-7 from this node but perhaps not... so I will connect to another node first K9VSO-7 so I type c k9vso-7 What I see is this: ###LINK MADE ###CONNECTED TO NODE K9VSO-7(K9VSO) CHANNEL A KB9SOZ Monroe Center, Adams Co., Wi Sysop: Jim K9VSO ENTER COMMAND: B,C,J,N,X, or Help ? so now I type c ve1ama-7 and what I see is: ###LINK MADE [TNOS-3.01a1-BFHIMW$] I have now made it to VE1AMA-7 which is a TNOS node and BBS. I could do this with reduced power because I am relying on the other nodes to make the connection. As long as I could get into a node close to me then I can reach the world literally because VE1AMA-7 (and some other nodes) have AMPRNet / telnet links to Europe, Australia, Asia etc. From the VE1AMA-7 node I can type a command ports which means show me a listing of your ports Available ports: alw : alw : internet link - wa7v-8 itt : itt : internet link - i6qpl-7 hou : hou : internet link - vdagw noh : noh : internet link - k8ee har : HAR : internet link - ve2har-7 con : con : internet link - ve3con pma : pma : internet link - va3pma-7 mos : mos : internet link - ka0mos-7 ca : ca : amprnet link - kd6mtu oha : oha : internet link - k8khw gat : gat : internet link - ve2uqh-6 pkt : pkt : internet link - ve2pkt-4 nsb : nsb : internet link - ve1fyi-7 ppr : ppr : internet link - ve1ppr-7 zda : zda : internet link - ve3zda-7 uhf : uhf : UHF BackBONE hf : hf : * NETWORK 105 * vhf : vhf : 2m LAN Local Network Patrick, you can see there is a port called HF. If you were to telnet directly to telnet://ve1ama.ampr.org/ and log in with your callsign then you could use Burt's HF port just the same as if you had connected by RF. So to connect to K9VSO-7 you would type c hf k9vso-7 and now you would be on 20m HF in the USA!. Here is another example. There is a node called AURORA which I can reach first via HF and then VHF through W0TX-7. I use the command X to mean connect to a station on a VHF port. My comments appear in [] c w0tx-7 [ first I connect to W0TX-7 in Colorado via HF] :*** CONNECTED to W0TX-7 ###CONNECTED TO NODE W0TX-7(W0TX) CHANNEL B Denver Radio Club 145.0514.105 (www.w0tx.org) ENTER COMMAND: B,C,J,N,X, or Help ? x aurora [connect to AURORA via W0TX-7's VHF port] ###LINK MADE Welcome to KB8DM's Packet Switch. Type ? for a list of available commands. n AURORA:KB8DM-5} Nodes: ASCVI:VA3CVI-2 AURBBS:KB8DM AURCHT:KB8DM-12 AURNOD:KB8DM-13 BBS:N9LYA BBSCVI:VA3CVI-1 BBSJOA:N4JOA-1 BBSMPF:VE1MPF BBSUIL:VE3UIL-3 BPQ:GM8BPQ-2 BPQBBS:G8BPQ BPQCHT:G8BPQ-4 BULLHD:9Y4PJ-7 CANBBS:K2CAN-4 CANCHT:K2CAN-5 CHAT:VE9MPF-2 CHATPJ:9Y4PJ-13 CHTMPF:VE9MPF-11 CO105:KB0MQQ-7 DABBBS:N4ZKF-4 DABDXC:N4ZKF-2 DABFLA:N4ZKF-5 DEVBBS:GB7COW-1 DEVCHT:GB7COW-11 DVRCO:N4ATA-7 DX:GB7RDX DX:K9BBS-5 DXAR:N9PMO-6 DXC:VE9SC DXCC:N9PMO-4 DXZKF:N4ZKF FBB:K9BBS FGRDX:K2CAN-2 FGRLKS:K2CAN-3 HAMMER:KC8GKF ILDIA:N9ZZK-5 IN105:N9LYA-7 INCHAT:K9BBS-14 JOABBS:N4JOA JOABPQ:N4JOA-3 JOACHT:N4JOA-11 LDIBBS:GB7LDI MIMUSK:KC8GKF-2 MNBPQ:N5IN-14 MNBPQ1:N5IN-13 MNDX:N5IN MNDX1:N5IN-1 MNDX2:N5IN-2 MNQBBS:N5IN-3 MNQCHT:N5IN-6 MOBRA:KB0WSA-6 MPFMTN:VE9MPF-7 NDEVON:GB7COW-5 PJBBS:9Y4PJ PJBBS2:9Y4PJ-2 PMOBBS:N9PMO-1 PMOCHT:N9PMO-11 RMS:N9PMO-10 RMS:K9BBS-10 RMS:VE9SC-10 SFALLS:VE3UIL-7 SFSBBS:VE3UIL-1 SFSCHT:VE3UIL-9 SFSDX:VE3UIL-5 SFSRMS:VE3UIL-10 SINC:N7ZEF-1 SWAR:G3LDI WIBBS:N9PMO WIRAC:N9PMO-2 WSABBS:KB0WSA-4 WSARMS:KB0WSA-5 WYO:N7ZEF-4 [now I try a UK node via AMPRNet] c ldibbs AURORA:KB8DM-5} Connected to LDIBBS:GB7LDI Greetings! This is the G3LDI/SWAR Gateway: Type BBS to access GB7LDI. Type DX to access GB7RDX Cluster. +++ Type NARC when in the BBS to see the Club Programme +++ SWAR:G3LDI} BBS DX CONNECT BYE INFO NODES ROUTES PORTS USERS MHEARD [FBB-7.01b-ABFHMRX$] GB7LDI BBS, QTHJOO2ON. Hello Sholto, you are now on channel 1. There are 977 active messages, 31894 is last message and
[digitalradio] List of RS ID figures updated with 4 Contestia modes
Hello to all,
Just for information, here is the updated list of RS ID (addition of 4
Contestia modes for UHF and emergency communications).
73
Patrick
IF NUMBER=1 THEN MODE:='BPSK31' ELSE
IF NUMBER=2 THEN MODE:='BPSK63' ELSE
IF NUMBER=3 THEN MODE:='QPSK63' ELSE
IF NUMBER=4 THEN MODE:='BPSK125' ELSE
IF NUMBER=5 THEN MODE:='QPSK125' ELSE
IF NUMBER=7 THEN MODE:='PSKFEC31' ELSE
IF NUMBER=8 THEN MODE:='PSK10' ELSE
{MT63 parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: 500, 1000 (1000 Hz) or
2000 (2000 Hz),
parameter 2: LG (Long), ST (Short) or VST (Very short)
Example: MT63-1000-LG}
IF NUMBER=9 THEN MODE:='MT63-500-LG' ELSE
IF NUMBER=10 THEN MODE:='MT63-500-ST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=11 THEN MODE:='MT63-500-VST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=12 THEN MODE:='MT63-1000-LG' ELSE
IF NUMBER=13 THEN MODE:='MT63-1000-ST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=14 THEN MODE:='MT63-1000-VST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=15 THEN MODE:='MT63-2000-LG' ELSE
IF NUMBER=17 THEN MODE:='MT63-2000-ST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=18 THEN MODE:='MT63-2000-VST' ELSE
IF NUMBER=19 THEN MODE:='PSKAM10' ELSE
IF NUMBER=20 THEN MODE:='PSKAM31' ELSE
IF NUMBER=21 THEN MODE:='PSKAM50' ELSE
IF NUMBER=22 THEN MODE:='PSK63F' ELSE
IF NUMBER=23 THEN MODE:='PSK220F' ELSE
{CHIP 64 parameter 1 (parameter 1: 64 or 128), Example: CHIP-64}
IF NUMBER=24 THEN MODE:='CHIP-64' ELSE
IF NUMBER=25 THEN MODE:='CHIP-128' ELSE
IF NUMBER=26 THEN MODE:='CW' ELSE
{CCW parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: OOK or FSK,
parameter 2: 12 (12 wpm), 24 (24 wpm) or 48 (48 wpm)
Examples: CCW-OOK-12 or CCW-FSK-24}
IF NUMBER=27 THEN MODE:='CCW-OOK-12' ELSE
IF NUMBER=28 THEN MODE:='CCW-OOK-24' ELSE
IF NUMBER=29 THEN MODE:='CCW-OOK-48' ELSE
IF NUMBER=30 THEN MODE:='CCW-FSK-12' ELSE
IF NUMBER=31 THEN MODE:='CCW-FSK-24' ELSE
IF NUMBER=33 THEN MODE:='CCW-FSK-48' ELSE
{Pactor1 ARQ not RX/TX in Multipsk 4.1.1}
IF NUMBER=34 THEN MODE:='PACTOR1-FEC' ELSE
{PACKET parameter 1 (parameter 1: 300 (bauds) or 1200 (bauds)),Example:
PACKET-300}
IF NUMBER=35 THEN MODE:='PACKET-300' ELSE
IF NUMBER=36 THEN MODE:='PACKET-1200' ELSE
{ASCII parameter 1 (parameter 1: 7 (7 bits) or 8 (8 bits)), Example:
ASCII-7}
IF NUMBER=37 THEN MODE:='ASCII-7' ELSE
IF NUMBER=38 THEN MODE:='ASCII-8' ELSE
{RTTY parameter 1 (parameter 1: 45 (45 bauds), 50 (50 bauds), 75 (75
bauds)), Example: RTTY-45}
IF NUMBER=39 THEN MODE:='RTTY-45' ELSE
IF NUMBER=40 THEN MODE:='RTTY-50' ELSE
IF NUMBER=41 THEN MODE:='RTTY-75' ELSE
IF NUMBER=42 THEN MODE:='AMTOR FEC' ELSE
{THROB parameter 1 (parameter 1: 1 (1 baud), 2 (2 bauds) or 4 (4
bauds)), Example: THROB-2}
IF NUMBER=43 THEN MODE:='THROB-1' ELSE
IF NUMBER=44 THEN MODE:='THROB-2' ELSE
IF NUMBER=45 THEN MODE:='THROB-4' ELSE
{THROBX parameter 1 (parameter 1: 1 (1 baud) or 2 (2 bauds)), Example:
THROBX-2}
IF NUMBER=46 THEN MODE:='THROBX-1' ELSE
IF NUMBER=47 THEN MODE:='THROBX-2' ELSE
{CONTESTIA parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: 4 (4 tones), 8 (8
tones), 16 (16 tones), 32 (32 tones), parameter 2: 250 (B=250 Hz), 500
(B=500 Hz) or 1000 (B=1000 Hz))...same parameters as OLIVIA
Examples: CONTESTIA-32-1000 or CONTESTIA-8-500
Note: the following are the main Contestia modes:
CONTESTIA-4-250, CONTESTIA-4-500, CONTESTIA-8-250, CONTESTIA-8-500,
CONTESTIA-16-500, CONTESTIA-16-1000, CONTESTIA-32-1000}
IF NUMBER=49 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-8-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=50 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-16-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=51 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-32-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=52 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-8-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=53 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-16-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=54 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-4-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=55 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-4-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=56 THEN MODE:='VOICE' ELSE
IF NUMBER=57 THEN MODE:='MFSK16' ELSE
IF NUMBER=60 THEN MODE:='MFSK8' ELSE
{RTTYM parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: 4 (4 tones), 8 (8 tones),
16 (16 tones), 32 (32 tones), parameter 2: 250 (B=250 Hz), 500 (B=500
Hz) or 1000 (B=1000 Hz))...same parameters as OLIVIA
Examples: RTTYM-32-1000 or RTTYM-8-500
Note: the following are the main RTTYM modes: RTTYM-4-250, RTTYM-4-500,
RTTYM-8-250, RTTYM-8-500, RTTYM-16-500, RTTYM-16-1000, RTTYM-32-1000}
IF NUMBER=61 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-8-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=62 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-16-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=63 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-32-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=65 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-8-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=66 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-16-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=67 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-4-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=68 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-4-250' ELSE
{OLIVIA parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: 4 (4 tones), 8 (8 tones),
16 (16 tones), 32 (32 tones), parameter 2: 250 (B=250 Hz), 500 (B=500
Hz) or 1000 (B=1000 Hz))
Examples: OLIVIA-32-1000 or OLIVIA-8-500
Note: the following are the main Olivia modes: OLIVIA-4-250, OLIVIA-4-500,
OLIVIA-8-250, OLIVIA-8-500, OLIVIA-16-500, OLIVIA-16-1000, OLIVIA-32-1000}
IF NUMBER=69 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-8-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=70 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-16-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=71 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-32-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=72 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-8-500' ELSE
IF
Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal
James French writes: Can it be 'justified' to 'clog up' a new band with allowing ANY digital mode, and I am also including digitized voice into this, just to have it be there? Why not use what is already staged and developed and on the bands that already have the allocations? The reason for allowing digital modes on 60 is the same as the reason for allocating channels on 60 to hams in the first place: sometimes two stations are too close to work on 40 due to F-layer skip, and too distant to work on 80 due to D-layer absorption, while 60 will permit effective communication. This is equally true for any mode. W.r.t. EMCOMM, if a served agency needs hams for backup record communication using digital modes (whether email or radiograms), we don't want to be unable to serve that agency when propagation fails on both 80 and 40 meters while the phone lines are down, if 60m would work. Nor should we be reduced to reading radiograms over voice radio on 60m if a data mode would be both faster and more reliable. While much EMCOMM traffic is tactical rather than formal, some of it is not: EMCOMM hams should be prepared for both, and the regulations should not prevent us from doing both as effectively as possible. -- 73 de kw6h, ex-ae6vw, Chris
[digitalradio] QST article by K2MO on ALE 400
Good work Tony, nice to see your QST article on ALE 400. If any of our members have just read the article and are looking to try, I will be active tonight on the usual ALE 400 channels. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] QST article by K2MO on ALE 400
On 5/13/2010 7:40 PM, Andy obrien wrote: Good work Tony, nice to see your QST article on ALE 400. If any of our members have just read the article and are looking to try, I will be active tonight on the usual ALE 400 channels. Andy K3UK Thanks Andy. Tony -K2MO __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5111 (20100513) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: [digitalradio] Network 105 / Multipsk
SINC:N7ZEF-1 SWAR:G3LDI WIBBS:N9PMO WIRAC:N9PMO-2 WSABBS:KB0WSA-4 WSARMS:KB0WSA-5 WYO:N7ZEF-4 [now I try a UK node via AMPRNet] c ldibbs AURORA:KB8DM-5} Connected to LDIBBS:GB7LDI Greetings! This is the G3LDI/SWAR Gateway: Type BBS to access GB7LDI. Type DX to access GB7RDX Cluster. +++ Type NARC when in the BBS to see the Club Programme +++ SWAR:G3LDI} BBS DX CONNECT BYE INFO NODES ROUTES PORTS USERS MHEARD [FBB-7.01b-ABFHMRX$] GB7LDI BBS, QTHJOO2ON. Hello Sholto, you are now on channel 1. There are 977 active messages, 31894 is last message and 31850 is the last you have listed. Assigned channels: Ch. 1 (BPQ) : K7TMG3/10 18:05 ** TYPE ASSIST FOR A LIST OF IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE HELP FILES ** (0) GB7LDI BBS (H for help) etcetc It is not easy to understand at first but it is a massive network and a lot of fun. I have had some nice QSOs with hams from Russia, Europe and South America I could not have heard on HF directly. 73 Sholto -- - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net mailto:DXDX%40optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:32 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Apologies --- Network 105 / Multipsk All, Re: [digitalradio] Network 105 and Multipsk Sorry about my last post - it wasn't intended for the reflector. Tony -K2MO http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and spots all in one (resize to suit)Yahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5111 (20100513) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
