[digitalradio] Re: ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints
I would suggest that this makes ROS illegal in ANY jurisdiction that requires its ham operators to maintain complete control over all aspects of their station operations. de Dave, NF2G
AW: [digitalradio] Re: ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints
Autospot can now be switched of . so operator HAS control over it (in some kind) So you can use it as it is . or just switch it off Greetings Sigi
[digitalradio] Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints
//What a charming guy.. la5vna On 11.07.2010 01:05, Laurie, VK3AMA wrote: from his website http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/ros-and-cluster/ Jose says... ROS uses a system that send reports to the DX Cluster automatically. This is useful to know who are listen you and the system is done so as not to saturate the cluster (only send some spot). If you are not agree with this function that help to the communication, don’t use ROS software. Interpret that as you want. de Laurie, VK3AMA Yahoo! Groups Links http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit) Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints
So it's official. ROS really does mean Run Other Software. :) Julian, G4ILO --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Laurie, VK3AMA group...@... wrote: If you are not agree with this function that help to the communication, don't use ROS software. Interpret that as you want.
[digitalradio] Prevent ROS from sending spots
I don't care if Mr. ROS will be angry on me, but here is another way of blocking this back-door software. You can use a sandbox and run ROS in a totally isolated environment . Here is a great software made by Ronen Tzur: http://www.sandboxie.com/ Sandboxie is free and easy to use, but remember to block out Internet access like this: -From the menu choose: Sandbox/Defaultbox/Restriction/ Internet Access and choose Block all Programs . A nice thing with Sandboxie is the terminate function . When ROS thinks it has taken control over your computer , the only thing you have to do is to terminate all programs in the sandbox. Then ROS is gone and your system is clean. LA5VNA Steinar On 11.07.2010 01:54, Siegfried Jackstien wrote: Hi All, I have used ROS for a while now and use the following tips to improve my chances of a QSO: - Turn off cat control. The program allows you to select any mode if it can't determine the frequency you are on. - Use a different rig control program. I use HRD as it enables me to control the rig much better than omnirig and I can link in the logbook as well. - If conditions are such that you can use 8 or 16 2250Hz, then you can probably communicate using a number of other modes. My location suffers from a fair amount of QRM so having the filters wide open for the 2250 modes is close to a waste of time. - For the hard to decode signals, 4/500 seems to be king. Being in ZL, the only 'neighbours' are VK's so anything else is a long way off. - Definitely use the filtering on the rig (if available) on 4/500. My experimentation has shown that filters vs no filters is a no brainer in poor conditions. I have an Icom IC-7000 so I can tailor the filter response to suit ROS 4/500. - Small frequency drifts will drop sync very quickly. I have tried to change the RX frequency in slow 1 Hz steps once sync has occurred and every time I lose sync. - The in-built S/N message is too long for 4/500. I am now starting to abbreviate to -11/-18 where the first is signal and the second is margin. - Keep up to date with the programs. Jose tends to churn out regular releases 73's Gary ZL3GH And another one from me: If you do not want that ros sends spot to a cluster just ad a free firewall to your pc and forbid the adif exe to connect to the net Software runs as you have no internet access like being on a fieldday . so the software runs fine without the autospotfunction As the email sending is done from the ros software itself you should allow that if you wanna send the emails to respond to a received emailadress If you just wanna use ros without autospot AND without emailsending you can switch the emailfunction in the software to off (click on I have no internet access) Surely jose will be angry on me for that tip BUT that seems to be the only solution till he does delete that autospotting ! ! ! I hope that he does not reinvent the mad house (people know what I mean) and puts my call in it for that tip He should better ask us hams what we need and not do what he thinks we need Dg9bfc Sigi
Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints
BTW guys, if you have the technical skill to do so, I'd recommend setting up a virtual machine to test any questionable material out in. Virtualbox is one free VM, qemu is another. Virtualbox is a lot easier to transfer files into. You can set aside a file for a virtual hard drive, install a different OS or another copy of the same one you're running now on it and have everything sandboxed in. I have a few Linux and Windows virtual machines set up on my computer expressly for this purpose. (One Windows XP virtual machine is exclusively for backwards compatibility support. I have a very nice, expensive HP scanner with an automatic document feeder on it that HP has told me they never intend to release Windows 7 drivers for. Virtualbox has support for USB devices. I have the drivers installed in a Windows XP virtual machine. Scanner still works perfectly on XP!) Of course you need licenses. I just happen to have the good fortune to have a few old trash systems I got for cheap with the XP license stickers still attached. I'm not going to go all tin-foil hat over this ROS guys' motives but I will say that I don't think we should trust that he's motivated by goodwill. I'm not accusing, only stating common sense. We're not alone http://www.slate.com/id/2259417. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:07 AM, af6it af...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Why is it we're still even discussing this? The mode is questionable, the quirks are many, the value is dubious, the author a non-ham with a BIG attitude, and he controls our computers. (Not mine, glad I never got around to downloading) Why should we be his pawns and feed his ego? Best thing we could do is simple end the debate, change the subject, and allow ROS to die its deserved death by neglect. It didn't have to go that way, but it is what it became by choice of the one who engineered it. Laurie several others critiques seem quite valid. So why the ongoing debate? Let it end here now! Just my cent worth. Stu AF6IT --now SK on the subject --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Laurie, VK3AMA group...@... wrote: With this action (or inaction) from Mr ROS and considering all of his past actions/comments it becomes clear (to me) that he has an agenda and Hams are being used as beta-testers to help fulfil his ultimate goal. He has shown several times an unwillingness to embrace Ham Spirit and Ham Operating Standards. His Agenda? I suspect it is commercial in nature. My thoughts. de Laurie, VK3AMA
Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
I'm not quite sure what's going on here. Are you attacking me? I was merely stating that I see no cause for alarm and that I did not think there was anything nefarious going on. I'm a ham radio operator, of course figuring out how things work excites me. That's the whole point. To which little project are you referring to? I'm not sure I follow you. 73s James Didn't read many comic books as a kid did you? On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:58 AM, rein...@ix.netcom.com wrote: extremely wicked; nefarious schemes; a villainous plot; a villainous band of thieves I had to use Google to learn that expression. Not using it much in daily conversations. What are you trying to get to James? Why is it that trying to figure out how systems work excites you? Once I am through with this little project you might understand or perhaps not why I am doing this. 73 Rein W6SZ I had to use Google to learn that expression. -Original Message- From: James Hall hall.jam...@gmail.com hall.jamesr%40gmail.com Sent: Jul 8, 2010 4:00 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC Looks like this is a DX Cluster server available on the Internet running a software package called DXSpider. http://wiki.dxcluster.org/index.php/Main_Page Doesn't seem to be nefarious at all to me. Telnet in, give your callsign and it'll start giving you info. I have no clue how to read this but there it is. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.nosaanes%40broadpark.no wrote: Hi Rain You have absolutely right . ROS are sending data from your PC to the cluster. Try to type the IP address 90.225.73.203:8000 into your browser and you get this: login: GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: 90.225.73.203:8000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nb-NO; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Language: nb,no;q=0.8,nn;q=0.6,en-us;q=0.4,en;q=0.2 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 115 Connection: keep-alive Sorry GET / HTTP/1.1 is an invalid callsign - Then try to type c:telnet 90.225.73.203 8000 , then you will see that this is TELNET and that explains the funny call sings . Whe people is bande in this software whey are using a fake call sign . This fake call sign is the sent to the cluster when people is in RX mode. I hope this is understandable . LA5VNA Steinar On 08.07.2010 20:53, Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Rein After reading your mail about ROS and the HamSpots , I have done some testing. I have monitored the activity of the latest ROS v4.5.7 in RX mode. I have been using Process Explorer from Sysinternals (microsoft) .With The Process Explorer you have the possibility to see the network activity in real time . What I fount out was that the ADIFdata2 module in ROS was trying to connect to the address: 90.225.73.203, 217.31.161.71,8 or 217.31.161.34.50 on port 8000 and sending data from my computer. LA5VNA Steinar On 08.07.2010 05:20, Rein A wrote: Thank you, Laurei: Where Do The Spots Come From? 08-Jul-2010 14:45utc There has been much internet speculation that HamSpots gets the ROS spots directly from the ROS Software. This is INCORRECT. ROS spots are retrieved from the DX Cluster ONLY. This site has no relationship with the ROS software or its developer. HamSpots maintains a private dedicated Cluster Node and processes all incoming spots to that node to determine the mode being used (ROS, PSK, RTTY, SSTV, HELL, etc.) to display correctly on the individual Mode Pages. HamSpots also takes direct feeds from the PSKReporter Network (thanks to N1DQ) and the JT65 Reverse Beacon Network (thanks to W6CQZ). 73 Rein, W6SZ
[digitalradio] Re: VHF Contesting
Thanks to all for your comments, suggestions. Yes, even you Dan... but you need to step back a bit and consider all of the aspects of our hobby. And why would I want to settle for repeater hopping with an HT when I have a perfectly good FT897 that runs 20w on SSB from the backpack portable? Hiking up to the tops of mountains in 3 states and activating 6 different grid squares is my goal for next weekend. Taking the contest logs, analyzing them and reporting the results not only to the contest managers, but the local ARES groups has always helped us prepare and set-up relay stations and portable repeaters when needed. Its nice to know that spot you think would cover good for an emergency is actually a noise ridden location that makes it inoperative or is shadowed into the area you need to cover for that emergency before it happens, I like to think it helps plan the appropriate response ahead of time. Do I get frustrated with the contesters on 20m at times? I have to admit that sometimes I do, but at the same time, I also realize that whether I submit a log for the particular contest or not, they bring out people from all over the world and you hear places that you would never ordinarily hear because hams all over the world set aside some time for that contest to operate, just as I try to set aside this weekend in July to operate this contest. Whether I submit a log to the contest manager or not, its in my log. I try to work in a bit of a rag chew here and there in every contest i listen to, sometimes even the hard-core contesters enjoy a break in the action to relax and talk about their progress, but they all get a card, all get a confirmation on LoTW and a note thanking them for the contest contact and welcoming them to strike up a conversation anytime they hear me. The spirit of competition is in us all, I'm of the opinion that its genetically embedded in all of us. If we can combine that natural tendency with a hobby we all enjoy, so much the better for us and our well-being. Again, thank you all for your comments, and I'm glad my question got something else going in the threads to inspire some thought.. 73 Greg N1KPW --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, GregCT n1...@... wrote: Hello and Good morning to all, Just looking for a little advise and guidance here. Next weekend is the CQ WW VHF Contest, .
[digitalradio] Uninstalled ROS
Following the discovery that ROS has been secretly sending fake reports to DX clusters I have removed ROS from my PC. Its a pity to have to take this action but the software cannot be trusted and there is no way telling what other hidden activities it may be carrying out. I urge other hams to remove this program if they whish to maintain the security of their PC. 73's Derek G3OFA
[digitalradio] Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] Pirate behavior
Ok Skip I typed that into google point taken good luck with that one ! cannot stations apply for experimental status / investigation into enhanced emergency com's etc ? as you've lost one of the established `ss' modes as well..things are going backwards ? G ..
[digitalradio] Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] Pirate behavior
Ok Skip, Yes bit of a difficult situation , catch 22 , but progress is progres .. Well there's a lot of it about over here .. the MF modes work very well on HF as well and are 98 hz wide, there where going to be a new set of narrow modes based on the HF/MF systems , However. checking the ros download site , it looks like it game over ? G ..
Re: [digitalradio] Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] Pirate behavior
While there have been many coments about ROS and the nature of the software and what it does on your PC, Mine is for those who worry what might be lingering on their hard drives now I recommend for anyone who is worried about creepie crawlies in their HD, to download Malwarebytes, http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam-download.php Install the software (this is the free version, but the Pro version is $25 US and a one time fee.The pro version is pro-active and blocks virtually all malware from infection. The free version only removes after you manually scan the PC) Update the software and run a full scan. Secondly, Download CCleaner http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/slim/downloadfile to clean your registry of any little pieces of software left over. Run the registry scan by clicking analyze and then clean three times to ensure the entire registry is squeaky clean. There is an option to backup what you are cleaning. I'm a professional IT guy that makes a living of cleaning viruses and malware, and these are two of the best free apps out there. Update your software. Scan often.and backup, backup, backup 73 de Mike N7NMS From: graham787 g0...@hotmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, July 11, 2010 10:27:53 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] Pirate behavior Ok Skip, Yes bit of a difficult situation , catch 22 , but progress is progres .. Well there's a lot of it about over here .. the MF modes work very well on HF as well and are 98 hz wide, there where going to be a new set of narrow modes based on the HF/MF systems , However. checking the ros download site , it looks like it game over ? G ..
[digitalradio] Re: Re : testing confirms ROS,,,,,,,,,,,
Well Mel Lets Just hope Spain wins the world cup G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, raf3151019 gzero...@... wrote: Well, would you believe it ! So what happens now ? Mel G0GQK
Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
Hello James Hall, Why not using your call here? But that's OK. I was not attacking you nor anybody else. It is not part of my amateur radio experience or fun. You were attacking me or? Thick skin here. I was with the xyl to a concert yesterday and not behind this computer. Over the last couple of months, I have been trying to understand why I can not use the ROS software like many others outside the US. It seems I have not enough brains. +++ There is no agenda here, pro digital mode xx, anti digital mode ROS. ++ I believe scaring a nice person, suggesting him to ask the FCC about ROS, was part of that anti ROS agenda! I still do not understand the issue. In that process I tried over and over to get the author of that program to apologize to the amateurs he did hurt, write a paper about ROS with the US regulations in mind, inform the appropriate people in the FCC, Again apologize for what he did or give an explanation. Who to contact in the FCC, I think I could help him with that perhaps. In that process I have been lectured attacked for being on this reflector or the other one and I made the mistake at times to engage. defend, explain myself. I hope you and others here, believe that. I hope you James Hall reads this. If you are a technical person and interested seriously in legality issues of ROS. I welcome you here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosmodemusa/ Not very popular just 18 subscribers ( almost 4000 here ) 73 Rein W6SZ http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/ -Original Message- From: James Hall hall.jam...@gmail.com Sent: Jul 9, 2010 11:09 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC I'm not quite sure what's going on here. Are you attacking me? I was merely stating that I see no cause for alarm and that I did not think there was anything nefarious going on. I'm a ham radio operator, of course figuring out how things work excites me. That's the whole point. To which little project are you referring to? I'm not sure I follow you. 73s James Didn't read many comic books as a kid did you? On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:58 AM, rein...@ix.netcom.com wrote: extremely wicked; nefarious schemes; a villainous plot; a villainous band of thieves I had to use Google to learn that expression. Not using it much in daily conversations. What are you trying to get to James? Why is it that trying to figure out how systems work excites you? Once I am through with this little project you might understand or perhaps not why I am doing this. 73 Rein W6SZ I had to use Google to learn that expression. -Original Message- From: James Hall hall.jam...@gmail.com hall.jamesr%40gmail.com Sent: Jul 8, 2010 4:00 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC Looks like this is a DX Cluster server available on the Internet running a software package called DXSpider. http://wiki.dxcluster.org/index.php/Main_Page Doesn't seem to be nefarious at all to me. Telnet in, give your callsign and it'll start giving you info. I have no clue how to read this but there it is. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.nosaanes%40broadpark.no wrote: Hi Rain You have absolutely right . ROS are sending data from your PC to the cluster. Try to type the IP address 90.225.73.203:8000 into your browser and you get this: login: GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: 90.225.73.203:8000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nb-NO; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Language: nb,no;q=0.8,nn;q=0.6,en-us;q=0.4,en;q=0.2 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 115 Connection: keep-alive Sorry GET / HTTP/1.1 is an invalid callsign - Then try to type c:telnet 90.225.73.203 8000 , then you will see that this is TELNET and that explains the funny call sings . Whe people is bande in this software whey are using a fake call sign . This fake call sign is the sent to the cluster when people is in RX mode. I hope this is understandable . LA5VNA Steinar On 08.07.2010 20:53, Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Rein After reading your mail about ROS and the HamSpots , I have done some testing. I have monitored the activity of the latest ROS v4.5.7 in RX mode. I have been using Process Explorer from Sysinternals (microsoft) .With The Process Explorer you have the possibility to see the network activity in real time . What I fount out was that the ADIFdata2 module in ROS was trying to connect to the address: 90.225.73.203, 217.31.161.71,8 or 217.31.161.34.50 on port 8000 and
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Re : testing confirms ROS,,,,,,,,,,,
G.. you are a really funny joker S On 11.07.2010 16:59, graham787 wrote: Well Mel Lets Just hope Spain wins the world cup G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, raf3151019 gzero...@... wrote: Well, would you believe it ! So what happens now ? Mel G0GQK
[digitalradio] Another fake US call
From QRZ.com: The search for WK6UR produced no results. From Hamspots: Jul11 13:17 +4h WK6UR United States, 14103.00 20 ROS test SM0RUX-6 IK5PWQ Every valid US licensee is on QRZ.com / FCC pages listed. 73 Rein W6SZ
[digitalradio] Aother US fake call ( station )
Perhaps some body with the right tracking capabilities can research the path of this message. There has been no propagation over the last couple of hours between SM6 and California. It looks to me there are more questions here than just blaming the ROS software, Though I can be wrong as I often am. 73 Rein W6SZ
[digitalradio] Where are our innovators?
We clearly need to encourage innovation in Amateur Radio. Many potential innovators may be people working in the fields of Software or Communications who are not currently Radio Amateurs. The question is what can we do to encourage people with expertise in these areas to join the Amateur Radio community ? I'd be interested in the thoughts of those on this list. While reading the article below I was stuck by the fact that an Amateur Radio Innovation Competition had only received one entry. This perhaps indicates that Amateur Radio innovators are in short supply at the moment! From: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/july2010/innovation_in_ar.htm The South African Amateur Radio Development Trust has thus far received one entry in the Innovation in Amateur Radio Competition from an Amateur in the UK. Radio amateurs and technologists are invited to submit projects that will innovate amateur radio whether it is software, amateur radio and the Internet, the development of compact HF antennas for flat and complex dwellers or innovation in Emergency Communications. 73 Trevor M5AKA
Re: [digitalradio] Aother US fake call ( station )
Hi Rein I think we have enough to assume that there is something fishy with this guy and his software. I admit that odd characters like Mr. Ros is fascinating, and it has been exiting to investigate his back door software, but I will leave it for now until his next release. Then we will see what new Trojans he has hidden in to it ;) la5vna Steinar On 11.07.2010 20:23, Rein A wrote: Perhaps some body with the right tracking capabilities can research the path of this message. There has been no propagation over the last couple of hours between SM6 and California. It looks to me there are more questions here than just blaming the ROS software, Though I can be wrong as I often am. 73 Rein W6SZ
[digitalradio] Posted on ROSMODEM home page
ROS 1.0 (the last)http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/07/11/ros-1-0-the-last/ 11 July, 2010 by José Alberto Nieto Ros I’ve been reading too many derogatory comments towards me in Digital Group and ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP so I understand that it is not worth further evolve this software. So, ROS 1.0 is the last version. 73, Jose Alberto *(Comments in this blog have been disabled)* -- Dave K3DCW www.k3dcw.net Real radio bounces off of the sky
[digitalradio] Re: Where are our innovators?
We clearly need to encourage innovation in Amateur Radio Trev, have you just tuned in ? G . --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Trevor . m5...@... wrote: We clearly need to encourage innovation in Amateur Radio. Many potential innovators may be people working in the fields of Software or Communications who are not currently Radio Amateurs. The question is what can we do to encourage people with expertise in these areas to join the Amateur Radio community ? I'd be interested in the thoughts of those on this list. While reading the article below I was stuck by the fact that an Amateur Radio Innovation Competition had only received one entry. This perhaps indicates that Amateur Radio innovators are in short supply at the moment! From: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/july2010/innovation_in_ar.htm The South African Amateur Radio Development Trust has thus far received one entry in the Innovation in Amateur Radio Competition from an Amateur in the UK. Radio amateurs and technologists are invited to submit projects that will innovate amateur radio whether it is software, amateur radio and the Internet, the development of compact HF antennas for flat and complex dwellers or innovation in Emergency Communications. 73 Trevor M5AKA
Re: [digitalradio] Posted on ROSMODEM home page
So, ROS 1.0 is the last version. The ROSMODEM web page also claims a EA8TL to VK2CBL QSO with a -3 dB S/N (New record in distance: 18660 km), but PSK31 can copy down to -11 dB S/N and Olivia down to -15dB S/N in a fraction of the bandwidth of ROS. For the same typing speed as ROS, or PSK31, Contestia 250/4 will work down to -9 dB S/N, even over the polar paths. In other words, any of these modes could have been used for the 18600 km path, if propagation was like it was when the record ROS long distance contact was made. This means that PSK31, Contestia, or Olivia could also have easily completed the 18600 km QSO with a 599 report. Now that it has been found to possibly be dangerous to keep ROS on your computer, I encourage everyone to try Contestia 250/4 instead. It is very robust, and uses only 1/10th the bandwidth of that ROS QSO, leaving much more space for others to make QSO's. Let's all support Jaak's (ES1HJ) experiment and encourage others to use Contestia 250/4. If you are in QSO on PSK31, and are using Multipsk, DM780, or Fldigi, and the other station is also, you can use RSID to switch the other station to Contestia 250/4 and compare the results. It will be something you will have fun doing, and something interesting to discuss afterward. However, it would probably be considerate to PSK31 operators to move together just above the high end of the PSK31 activity. Please visit http://contestia.blogspot.com/ for more information. Thanks. 73, Skip KH6TY ._,___
Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] Re: [digitalradio] Aother US fake call ( station )
Dear Steinar, Thanks. [ I noticed the message not to repeat things. } I agree with all your research, observations, and largely your conclusions. Indeed the overall thread through all of this is Jose's character/behavior. It creates a big problem for me to defend him, really. Still want to believe he is probably a smart person, never wanting to admit failures, not even wanting to communicate or reach out to people that try to understand him. Really have no idea how old he is. Older people sometimes get wiser, not smarter. I have had dealings with software engineers in my work and am not good in interacting with them. They often feel superior, it works as a red flag like playing police man. Best is to leave them in their cubicles! Above informing others what and how he is doing it. I see what he is doing as writing an efficient program, advanced, might tell his friends,if he has any, how he ads features to his programming etc etc. Unfortunately he does not know the area he is working in ( amateur radio and its history ) He will not listen to advice, I can go on and on. A situation hard to work with for me at least. I have been told indirectly by the same UK engineer that the fact that Jose has no call, I should not use my call!!! It is as much nonsense as Jose is telling us. Having no license does nobody prevent knowing about amateur radio IMHO It might be impossible to get or hold a job as a software engineer for Jose, who knows. Must be very difficult for him to work in a group, under a manager, participate in meetings with colleagues, discuss programming and the tasks with other programmers. I observe here that ROS traffic outside the US has come to a virtual stop. Perhaps the soccer business? I do not know and will, see tomorrow. ( using WEBSDR's ) In a way sorry to have started this phase of the ROS circus. My interest is US related only. And the interest in that subject is ZERO here. ROS was written off right after the ARRL announcement and few wanted to question the reasons behind it. As said NO interest. won't dwell on particular reasons for that ( private ones ) Time will tell. Who knows. May be I will write a book about it and ask ARRL to publish is as The ROS Modem story I wished you and I could talk over the phone and we could discuss are slightly different visions. I am getting tired of this as there seems to be no support for this on these reflector, I know there are members here who agree with more or less what I am trying to do. They mostly hide in the silently observing group, so be it. I am not a psycho analyst etc. Most members are really not interested in ROS or its back ground. I will try other ways. I always enjoy and read your observations Steinar and respect them, was impressed with your accomplishments in the early days of HF WSJT. 73 Rein W6SZ http://www.nitehawk.com/w6sz/top_sz.html -Original Message- From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no Sent: Jul 11, 2010 3:38 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, * ROSDIGITALMODEMGROU rosdigitalmodemgr...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] Re: [digitalradio] Aother US fake call ( station ) Hi Rein I think we have enough to assume that there is something fishy with this guy and his software. I admit that odd characters like Mr. Ros is fascinating, and it has been exiting to investigate his back door software, but I will leave it for now until his next release. Then we will see what new Trojans he has hidden in to it ;) la5vna Steinar On 11.07.2010 20:23, Rein A wrote: Perhaps some body with the right tracking capabilities can research the path of this message. There has been no propagation over the last couple of hours between SM6 and California. It looks to me there are more questions here than just blaming the ROS software, Though I can be wrong as I often am. 73 Rein W6SZ Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] VHF Contesting
Greg, You might want to consider using the WSJT modes for the contest. They work very well with scatter mode propagation, i.e., meteor scatter, ionospheric scatter and can fill the void when other propagation modes are not available. The new ISCAT mode decodes well into the noise and is very effective at times when signals are too weak for SSB or CW. The JT6M and FSK441 modes are used primarily for meteor burst communications - FSK441 is the faster of the two modes and works well on 2 meters where the pings only last a fraction of a second. The calling frequencies are: 50260.0 and 144.140. Check out the links below and good luck in the contest. WSJT - http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjt.html Pingjockey - http://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalk Tony -K2MO On 7/10/2010 7:38 AM, GregCT wrote: Hello and Good morning to all, Just looking for a little advise and guidance here. Next weekend is the CQ WW VHF Contest, I'm looking forward to setting out and playing in the contest and I'm thinking of attempting some digital contacts along with the usual SSB to up the score a bit. I've been having alot of fun with PSK31 mostly on HF with a spattering of other modes mixed in but PSK being the most prevelant. I think I would most likely see some PSK activity on 6m, but don't really know what to expect or look for as far as modes on the 2m side of things. Would someone operate PSK on that band or one of the other modes? I'm running HRD with DM780. My personal best score in the contest was in 2006 when I earned 1st place Rover for the New England Division with 8142 points. Due to work and family commitments, I was not able to enter again until last year, which also earned me 1st place New England again. I'm hoping that by adding the weak signal digital modes to the mix that I may Defend my title in this year's contest but also beat my personal best score and possible make it into the mix of the competition at the National level. My hopes are high, but i'm not sure if the effort of lugging the laptop along and keeping it powered up will be worth the result.. Any thoughts, ideas, comments that can you can send my way are appreciated, both 'for' and 'against'... and Thank you in advance for all that have any input/help advice to contribute 73 Greg N1KPW __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5267 (20100710) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
RE: [digitalradio] Posted on ROSMODEM home page
No me parece que tengamos que pagar justo por pecadores L Gracias por todo Jose 73 Francesco YV4GJN De: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de Dave Wright Enviado el: domingo, 11 de julio de 2010 03:47 p.m. Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Asunto: [digitalradio] Posted on ROSMODEM home page ROS 1.0 (the http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/07/11/ros-1-0-the-last/ last) 11 July, 2010 by José Alberto Nieto Ros Ive been reading too many derogatory comments towards me in Digital Group and ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP so I understand that it is not worth further evolve this software. So, ROS 1.0 is the last version. 73, Jose Alberto (Comments in this blog have been disabled) -- Dave K3DCW www.k3dcw.net Real radio bounces off of the sky
[digitalradio] ROS modem Yahoo Group
CLOSING GROUP TOMORROW EVE. IF YOU NEED TO COPY ANYTHING, GET ER DONE ! DAVID/WD4KPD
Re: [digitalradio] Where are our innovators? Here in this group.
Just within this group we have Patrick F6CTE who has innovated enough to bring us RS ID, ALE 400 and other special modes Skip Teller KH6TY who has innovated all his life and lately has brought us NBEMS (with others) plus recent build-it-yourself digital mode interfaces. Simon Brown HB9DRV who just received an award at Dayton for his innovations (and he has more to come) Rick Muething KN6KB who , along with collaborators, has designed an advanced HF email system that works (and is free) . Dave Freese - W1HKJ and the Fldigi team whose latest innovations include error correcting methods with FEMA required forms. Rein Couperus PA0R et al with innovations that allow CD ROM bootable emcomm system plus PSKmail Joe Taylor K1JT with new evolving EME modes Dave Bernstein AA6YQ who continues to innovate enough to improve MMTTY, propagation predicting, and advance logging methods. Steve N2CKH who innovates continually focusing on new rig functions for ALE (and working on new ALE software) Bonnie Crystal KQ6XA, et al with ham radio to SMS capability via ALE. Chris Moulding, G4HYG for inexpensive SDR Pete Goodmann, NI9N also for for inexpensive SDR Vojtech OK1IAK with more and more innovations for ham applications on a PDA , like Pocketdigi Andy K3UK On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM, J. Moen j...@jwmoen.com wrote: I think there's quite a lot of innovation going on in several areas of ham radio -- QRP (hardware design, in particular), digital (mostly software in various areas, including D-Star) and software defined radio. In fact, I think you could say that even though digital ham radio is still in its infancy, this is nearly a golden age of creative new work. It certainly is an exciting time to be a ham. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: Trevor . To: Digital Radio Group Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:33 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Where are our innovators? We clearly need to encourage innovation in Amateur Radio. Many potential innovators may be people working in the fields of Software or Communications who are not currently Radio Amateurs. The question is what can we do to encourage people with expertise in these areas to join the Amateur Radio community ? I'd be interested in the thoughts of those on this list. While reading the article below I was stuck by the fact that an Amateur Radio Innovation Competition had only received one entry. This perhaps indicates that Amateur Radio innovators are in short supply at the moment! From: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/july2010/innovation_in_ar.htm The South African Amateur Radio Development Trust has thus far received one entry in the Innovation in Amateur Radio Competition from an Amateur in the UK. Radio amateurs and technologists are invited to submit projects that will innovate amateur radio whether it is software, amateur radio and the Internet, the development of compact HF antennas for flat and complex dwellers or innovation in Emergency Communications. 73 Trevor M5AKA
[digitalradio] Yahoo Ros Modem zgroup to stay alive!
Hi all, David, who got this group going and has served us all well during some pretty difficult times, has decided it is time to move on. So that those interested in ROS can continue to exchange ideas and support each other he has agreed that the group should continue. To this end David has transferred ownership to me. I shall try to do as well as he has in keeping it running. All I ask is that we be positive in the sense that the purpose of the group is to support each other in our use of ROS and exploration of data communications of this type. 73 Howard VK4BS
