[digitalradio] Scanning on the 3's today.

2010-04-11 Thread Andy obrien
I am scanning 3583 ,7073,  10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123,
today.  Anyone looking for a digital mode QSO is welcome .  I am
scanning in ALE 400 mode BUT if I hear another mode while scanning, I
pause the scan and see who it is.  Just had a nice Olivia 16/500 QSO
(for an hour!) with W5ZIT who I detected on 14073 while scanning (with
3 kHZ filter, no narrow settings) .  Also KB0QC in MFSK16 on 14074.5 .

For those interested in multiband  scanning , aside from actually
programming your rig to do the scanning,  several  applications make
it easy to do

Commander
Multipsk (using ALE and customized frequency settings )
PC-ALE (with ALE)

Vary the settings long enough so that you can hear a station within
your passband as the scan progresses.  2 seconds per channel  is
usually good enough and reduces the chance of missing someone while
you are on another frequency.


A 3 kHz filter setting will allow you to hear most of the none PSK31
traffic if you use 3583 ,7073,  10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923,
28123,  .  I did not use 7033 for European traffic.
Andy K3UK


Re: [digitalradio] Scanning on the 3's today.

2010-04-11 Thread KH6TY

Andy,

Same problem with your scanning station as with Winlink scanning stations!

I am unable to know what frequency to listen on to see if I hear you in 
QSO, so if I hear nothing, I call just for you, assuming you may hear 
me. If you do not respond, I do not know if propagation is not good, or 
you are tied up on another scanned frequency in QSO. Whereas, if you 
were NOT scanning, I could just try calling you on one of the listed 
frequencies. If I heard traffic on that frequency, it would either be 
you or someone else. In any event, if you are in QSO with someone, I 
will transmit for you over and over, taking up a frequency someone else 
could use, and never connect with you until you are done.


I called for you in Olivia 16-500 on each of the listed frequencies from 
12:30 to 12:39 when I began to write this. Each frequency was clear when 
I called, of course, but never heard any reply.


Seems like YOU should just be calling CQ, or calling for me for a sked 
and I should be the one doing the scanning and finding you! That way, 
you are not automatic and can verify the frequency is clear before 
calling CQ. That gives me a chance to check each band to see if you are 
on. This way, I do not take up a frequency calling for you when you are 
unavailable because you are busy elsewhere.


Does this make sense?

73 - Skip KH6TY




Andy obrien wrote:
 


I am scanning 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123,
today. Anyone looking for a digital mode QSO is welcome . I am
scanning in ALE 400 mode BUT if I hear another mode while scanning, I
pause the scan and see who it is. Just had a nice Olivia 16/500 QSO
(for an hour!) with W5ZIT who I detected on 14073 while scanning (with
3 kHZ filter, no narrow settings) . Also KB0QC in MFSK16 on 14074.5 .

For those interested in multiband scanning , aside from actually
programming your rig to do the scanning, several applications make
it easy to do

Commander
Multipsk (using ALE and customized frequency settings )
PC-ALE (with ALE)

Vary the settings long enough so that you can hear a station within
your passband as the scan progresses. 2 seconds per channel is
usually good enough and reduces the chance of missing someone while
you are on another frequency.

A 3 kHz filter setting will allow you to hear most of the none PSK31
traffic if you use 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923,
28123, . I did not use 7033 for European traffic.
Andy K3UK




Re: [digitalradio] Scanning on the 3's today.

2010-04-11 Thread Andy obrien
Well , using ALE principles, I should have my scan passes timed so that
anyone that calls me, I can hear.  i.e. , a call time is of sufficient
duration that a complete scan can be achieved .

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote:



 Andy,

 Same problem with your scanning station as with Winlink scanning stations!

 I am unable to know what frequency to listen on to see if I hear you in
 QSO, so if I hear nothing, I call just for you, assuming you may hear me. If
 you do not respond, I do not know if propagation is not good, or you are
 tied up on another scanned frequency in QSO. Whereas, if you were NOT
 scanning, I could just try calling you on one of the listed frequencies. If
 I heard traffic on that frequency, it would either be you or someone else.
 In any event, if you are in QSO with someone, I will transmit for you over
 and over, taking up a frequency someone else could use, and never connect
 with you until you are done.

 I called for you in Olivia 16-500 on each of the listed frequencies from
 12:30 to 12:39 when I began to write this. Each frequency was clear when I
 called, of course, but never heard any reply.

 Seems like YOU should just be calling CQ, or calling for me for a sked and
 I should be the one doing the scanning and finding you! That way, you are
 not automatic and can verify the frequency is clear before calling CQ. That
 gives me a chance to check each band to see if you are on. This way, I do
 not take up a frequency calling for you when you are unavailable because you
 are busy elsewhere.

 Does this make sense?

 73 - Skip KH6TY




 Andy obrien wrote:



 I am scanning 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123,
 today. Anyone looking for a digital mode QSO is welcome . I am
 scanning in ALE 400 mode BUT if I hear another mode while scanning, I
 pause the scan and see who it is. Just had a nice Olivia 16/500 QSO
 (for an hour!) with W5ZIT who I detected on 14073 while scanning (with
 3 kHZ filter, no narrow settings) . Also KB0QC in MFSK16 on 14074.5 .

 For those interested in multiband scanning , aside from actually
 programming your rig to do the scanning, several applications make
 it easy to do

 Commander
 Multipsk (using ALE and customized frequency settings )
 PC-ALE (with ALE)

 Vary the settings long enough so that you can hear a station within
 your passband as the scan progresses. 2 seconds per channel is
 usually good enough and reduces the chance of missing someone while
 you are on another frequency.

 A 3 kHz filter setting will allow you to hear most of the none PSK31
 traffic if you use 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923,
 28123, . I did not use 7033 for European traffic.
 Andy K3UK

  



Re: [digitalradio] Scanning on the 3's today.

2010-04-11 Thread KH6TY
Sure, you may, if propagation is favorable, and ONLY if you are not in 
an extended QSO with anyone. Meanwhile, I would just be transmitting 
into cyberspace!


Let's set up a schedule at a specific time and band, have a short QSO, 
and then you scan right afterward and see if you pick me up.


73 - Skip KH6TY




Andy obrien wrote:
 

Well , using ALE principles, I should have my scan passes timed so 
that anyone that calls me, I can hear.  i.e. , a call time is of 
sufficient duration that a complete scan can be achieved . 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net 
mailto:kh...@comcast.net wrote:


 


Andy,

Same problem with your scanning station as with Winlink scanning
stations!

I am unable to know what frequency to listen on to see if I hear
you in QSO, so if I hear nothing, I call just for you, assuming
you may hear me. If you do not respond, I do not know if
propagation is not good, or you are tied up on another scanned
frequency in QSO. Whereas, if you were NOT scanning, I could just
try calling you on one of the listed frequencies. If I heard
traffic on that frequency, it would either be you or someone else.
In any event, if you are in QSO with someone, I will transmit for
you over and over, taking up a frequency someone else could use,
and never connect with you until you are done.

I called for you in Olivia 16-500 on each of the listed
frequencies from 12:30 to 12:39 when I began to write this. Each
frequency was clear when I called, of course, but never heard any
reply.

Seems like YOU should just be calling CQ, or calling for me for a
sked and I should be the one doing the scanning and finding you!
That way, you are not automatic and can verify the frequency is
clear before calling CQ. That gives me a chance to check each band
to see if you are on. This way, I do not take up a frequency
calling for you when you are unavailable because you are busy
elsewhere.

Does this make sense?

73 - Skip KH6TY






Andy obrien wrote:
 


I am scanning 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123,
today. Anyone looking for a digital mode QSO is welcome . I am
scanning in ALE 400 mode BUT if I hear another mode while scanning, I
pause the scan and see who it is. Just had a nice Olivia 16/500 QSO
(for an hour!) with W5ZIT who I detected on 14073 while scanning
(with
3 kHZ filter, no narrow settings) . Also KB0QC in MFSK16 on 14074.5 .

For those interested in multiband scanning , aside from actually
programming your rig to do the scanning, several applications make
it easy to do

Commander
Multipsk (using ALE and customized frequency settings )
PC-ALE (with ALE)

Vary the settings long enough so that you can hear a station within
your passband as the scan progresses. 2 seconds per channel is
usually good enough and reduces the chance of missing someone while
you are on another frequency.

A 3 kHz filter setting will allow you to hear most of the none PSK31
traffic if you use 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923,
28123, . I did not use 7033 for European traffic.
Andy K3UK