Re: restrict gnome desktop user.

2008-10-25 Thread en0f
joeb wrote:
 How do it configure gnome to restrict users to their home directory?
 I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other users?

Dont know about gnome per se but you can use chroot/jails to restrict
users to see only stuffs you want them to see for any environment. Just
build the chroot and copy over the gnome-specific binaries to its
chrooted-equivalent (copy or link /usr/bin/gnome-panel to
/home/chrooted/johndoe/usr/bin/gnome-panel). I do not know of any tools
that does this automatically and also I do not know how gdm will work out.

e.g -
Normal
/home/johndoe/
 |
 |___ .bashrc
 |___ .sig

chrooted
/home/chroot/johndoe/
|
|__ bin/
|__ usr/


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Re: duplicate a drive

2008-10-25 Thread Matthew Seaman

RW wrote:

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:19:23 -0600 (MDT)
Warren Block [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK



The best way is to reinstall the OS on the new disk, then move the user
data over. This is highly recommended if you have been tracking -STABLE
for more than one release, or have updated a release instead of
installing a new one.


Highly recommended seems a very strange thing for the FAQ to be
saying. It's implying that FreeBSD base-system upgrades are a
bit flaky. It even goes on Should you decide not to do a fresh
install, as if to say you have been warned.

Unless my experience is abnormal, we seem to be publishing our own FUD.


When does a valid assessment of the difficulty of a certain course of 
action turn into an unjustified attempt to spread Fear, Uncertainty and 
Doubt?   This is not FUD because it is absolutely true.  You will get
better results by making a new install on your new hard drive and 
merging over your data.  Aside from anything else, the recommended 
partitioning has changed significantly over the years, and if you try 
and install 7.x into a disk layout originally designed for 4.x you will be a very unhappy bunny indeed[1].  Not to mention such things as the 
change from UFS1 to UFS2.


Base system upgrades /across major version numbers/ are difficult.  
Unless you have guru-like capabilities, a fanatical level of interest

in the OS internals and a great deal of luck, then it is entirely
likely that you will run into problems you will be unable to solve.
The 6.x to 7.x upgrade is really the first one that I've felt happy to 
do by re-compiling the system in-situ: even so, getting all the 
installed software correctly recompiled and linked against the new 7.x 
shlibs requires a deal of care to make work correctly.


Cheers,

Matthew

[1] Of course, if you'ld adopted the 'one big partition' layout which 
I've been known to advocate here and there, this wouldn't be a problem.


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the age old 3D hardware question

2008-10-25 Thread xorquewasp
Hello.

I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in
64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options
for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite minimal,
I'm not running any games.

As far as I can tell, only onboard Intel graphics and some ATI cards can
provide acceleration without blobs. Is this really the case?

I'm currently looking at the cheapest ATI cards as it seems that nobody
makes a motherboard with the Intel onboard graphics that's compatible
with Xeon CPUs. Am I going to be disappointed?

Thanks,
xw.

Please CC: me as I'm not subscribed.
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Re: the age old 3D hardware question

2008-10-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in
64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options
for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite minimal,
I'm not running any games.


you actually need 3D accelerator or just fast 2D card?

if second - buy for 50$ (or get for free) used computer, lowest end 
pentium will suffice, plug good PCI graphics in it, and make an X 
terminal to connect to your high-speed computer.


there is one more adventage of it - you may connect more than one :)
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Re: the age old 3D hardware question

2008-10-25 Thread xorquewasp
On 20081025 10:18:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in
 64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options
 for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite minimal,
 I'm not running any games.

 you actually need 3D accelerator or just fast 2D card?

 if second - buy for 50$ (or get for free) used computer, lowest end 
 pentium will suffice, plug good PCI graphics in it, and make an X terminal 
 to connect to your high-speed computer.

 there is one more adventage of it - you may connect more than one :)

Unfortunately, yeah, I do need 3D acceleration. I'm not running any games
but I am doing some OpenGL development (should've said that in the first
place, really).
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Re: the age old 3D hardware question

2008-10-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar

afaik openGL always requires local display


On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 20081025 10:18:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in
64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options
for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite minimal,
I'm not running any games.


you actually need 3D accelerator or just fast 2D card?

if second - buy for 50$ (or get for free) used computer, lowest end
pentium will suffice, plug good PCI graphics in it, and make an X terminal
to connect to your high-speed computer.

there is one more adventage of it - you may connect more than one :)


Unfortunately, yeah, I do need 3D acceleration. I'm not running any games
but I am doing some OpenGL development (should've said that in the first
place, really).
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Re: the age old 3D hardware question

2008-10-25 Thread Bruce Cran





On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 20081025 10:18:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in
64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options
for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite 
minimal,

I'm not running any games.


you actually need 3D accelerator or just fast 2D card?

if second - buy for 50$ (or get for free) used computer, lowest end
pentium will suffice, plug good PCI graphics in it, and make an X 
terminal

to connect to your high-speed computer.

there is one more adventage of it - you may connect more than one :)


Unfortunately, yeah, I do need 3D acceleration. I'm not running any 
games

but I am doing some OpenGL development (should've said that in the first
place, really).

Wojciech Puchar wrote:

afaik openGL always requires local display


I would guess the development and testing will be done on the same 
machine.  


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RE: restrict gnome desktop user.

2008-10-25 Thread joeb


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of en0f
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG
Subject: Re: restrict gnome desktop user.

joeb wrote:
 How do it configure gnome to restrict users to their home directory?
 I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other users?

Dont know about gnome per se but you can use chroot/jails to restrict
users to see only stuffs you want them to see for any environment. Just
build the chroot and copy over the gnome-specific binaries to its
chrooted-equivalent (copy or link /usr/bin/gnome-panel to
/home/chrooted/johndoe/usr/bin/gnome-panel). I do not know of any tools
that does this automatically and also I do not know how gdm will work out.

e.g -
Normal
/home/johndoe/
 |
 |___ .bashrc
 |___ .sig

chrooted
/home/chroot/johndoe/
|
|__ bin/
|__ usr/


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WOW this sure seems to be over kill putting each user in a jail.
There must be some other way at the user id level or from gnome it self to
do this.

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Re: the age old 3D hardware question

2008-10-25 Thread xorquewasp
On 20081025 11:48:02, Bruce Cran wrote:

 I would guess the development and testing will be done on the same machine. 
  
 -- 
 Bruce

If that was a question, then yeah, you're correct.

It seems that I can actually get open acceleration using the r500 series
of ATI cards (the X1950 is the most powerful card supported by Xorg DRI,
apparently).

These cards go for about $20 now...

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Re: the age old 3D hardware question

2008-10-25 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 08:48:58AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in
 64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options
 for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite minimal,
 I'm not running any games.
 
 As far as I can tell, only onboard Intel graphics and some ATI cards can
 provide acceleration without blobs. Is this really the case?

Yes. Intel should work with a recent driver and drm components in the
kernel.

Recent ATI cards (R600) work in 2D only. 3D support for R5XX ATI chips should
work in the X driver, but you might need recent patches from Robert Noland
for the DRM component in the kernel. 3D support for R600 based cards is
waiting on specs to be provided by ATI.
 
Check out http://www.phoronix.com/ for news about display drivers etc.

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Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries?

2008-10-25 Thread Alexander Sack
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 24 October 2008 23:20:59 Peter Jeremy wrote:
 this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit program. it
 can't work

 rtld shouldn't attempt to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit programs.

 The same problem happens with the Linux run time linker - it merrily tries to
 link FreeBSD libraries to Linux binaries with predictable results..

 One trick I use for that is to put a symlink in /compat/linux in the place the
 problematic FreeBSD library is..

 That said it would be really nice if it ignored incompatible libraries :)

Yea.  Also you go tot realize that if it didn't pick up /usr/lib32
shared objects then /lib would be searched as a last resort I believe
since its the default path.  As a result, things again would have just
worked.

Is this a bug or not in FreeBSD's rtld?

-aps
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Gimp-help not working after portupgrade

2008-10-25 Thread Mike Clarke

After upgrading to Gimp 2.6.1 (on 6.4-RC1) I can't access
the Gimp help files.

I have the following gimp* ports installed:
gimp-2.6.1,2The meta-port for The Gimp
gimp-app-2.6.1_1,1  A GNU Image Manipulation Program
gimp-gutenprint-5.1.7_1 GutenPrint Printer Driver
gimp-help-2.4.1 GIMP user's manual

The error message I got was:

---
The GIMP user manual is not installed on your computer.
---

gimp-help-2.4.1 worked OK with 2.4 but perhaps it's not compatible with 
2.6. (I see from www.gimp.org that work is in progress on updating the 
user manual for GIMP 2.6) so I thought I'd switch over to the online 
help but then I got the following error message:

---
Could not open 'http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-help.xml' for reading:
Operation not supported

Perhaps you are missing GIO backends and need to install GVFS?
---

I have gio-fam-backend-2.16.5 and gvfs-0.2.5 installed.

This isn't restricted to just the online help, gimp won't load any file 
via http.

I asked about the http problem in comp.graphics.apps.gimp but didn't get 
any response. Google searches haven't unearthed anything about this so 
I was wondering if it might be a problem related to the FreeBSD port 
rather than gimp itself?

-- 
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Re: root | su

2008-10-25 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Friday 24 October 2008 23:59, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
 [Jeremy Chadwick said]
  You're trying to solve a social (possibly personal?) problem with
  technology.  Simply put, this is a bad idea.

 Yep, I think that is .true.

  I would highly recommend you either talk to the idiot and explain to
  him why what he's doing is improper or foolish, or simply pull his root
  access entirely.  If this is a work-related incident, talk to your boss
  about it if at all possible (but see below).  If you call the shots,
  simply yank their access.

 The idiot is the boss himself and acts like an unguided missile.
 Just investigating before I give him a wake-up call. And that is exactly
 what I will do...

  Food for thought.  Cheers!

 Love it, thanks for sharing (everyone)!

I'm coming to this discussion a bit late, and in general it's true that you 
can't limit root's ability to read files, execute programs, fiddle with 
settings etc. What you can do, which has limited usefulness but might fit 
your specific case, is temporarily prevent root from using su to log in as 
another user without knowing their password.

If you comment out (or remove entirely, which may slow down the other user 
even more, if they're unfamiliar with pam) the line

authsufficient  pam_rootok.so   no_warn

in /etc/pam.d/su, root has to meet the same requirements as any other user  
before using su.

Of course there's nothing to stop someone with root access from editing this 
file, but now the problem user has to actively subvert a measure that's been 
taken by another sysadmin - which may provide a better starting-point for a 
conversation about what they're up to.

Jonathan
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FireBird SQL port is not up to date

2008-10-25 Thread DSA - JCR
Hi all

I don't know if this is the rigth list to say, but I have found that the
por for the Firebird SQL server and client is not up to date.

in the ports the version is 2.0.3_2

in FirebirdSQl.org the last version 2.1.1 and also testing 2.5

I work with Firebird SQL Server and under FreeBSD (of course!!!) and also
there is many tools that work with like PHP, QT,...

Please, let me know if there will be an update for it.

Thanks in advance

Sincerely

Juan Coruña
Desarrollo de Software Atlantico





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Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries?

2008-10-25 Thread Alexander Kabaev
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:49:19 -0400
Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Is this a bug or not in FreeBSD's rtld?
 
 -aps

It is not. In case it was not clear before, I maintain that you _ask_
rtld for wrong behaviour and you get back what you asked for, down to
the letter. 'Tasting' libraries just because someone somewhere want to
screw up their configuration does not seem right to me at all.

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How to restore a lost root password...

2008-10-25 Thread DSA - JCR
Hi all

I have lost the neuron where I stored the root password of an installation ;D

I have seen a How to about this but I have a problem, i set the console
to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the how to i get a message
to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode.

Is there a way to restore/modify it, or not?

Some ideas?


Thanks in advance

Juan Coruña
Desarrollo de Software Atlantico



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Re: How to restore a lost root password...

2008-10-25 Thread Matthew Seaman

DSA - JCR wrote:

Hi all

I have lost the neuron where I stored the root password of an installation ;D

I have seen a How to about this but I have a problem, i set the console
to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the how to i get a message
to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode.

Is there a way to restore/modify it, or not?

Some ideas?


You can try booting from installation media into 'fixit' mode or live
filesystem.  Once there, you can mount your HDD read-write; edit 
/etc/master.password to remove the crypted password string from the
line for the root account; run 'cap_mkdb ./master.passwd'; reboot back to 
your normal system and then log in as root (no password) and 
/immediately/ set another root password.


This time, don't forget your root password.  If you struggle to memorise
it, then *write it down* on its own, on a blank sheet of paper.  Don't 
add any really obvious text like this is the root password for my 
server -- after all, we don't want to make it too easy for anyone trying 
to break in do we?  Seal that paper in an envelope and keep it in a safe 
place.  But not so safe that you forget where you put it...


Cheers,

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Re: How to restore a lost root password...

2008-10-25 Thread Matthew Seaman

Matthew Seaman wrote:

DSA - JCR wrote:

Hi all

I have lost the neuron where I stored the root password of an 
installation ;D


I have seen a How to about this but I have a problem, i set the console
to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the how to i get a message
to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode.

Is there a way to restore/modify it, or not?

Some ideas?


You can try booting from installation media into 'fixit' mode or live
filesystem.  Once there, you can mount your HDD read-write; edit 
/etc/master.password to remove the crypted password string from the

line for the root account; run 'cap_mkdb ./master.passwd'; reboot back


Ooops. Make that:  'pwd_mkdb ./master.passwd'

to your normal system and then log in as root (no password) and 
/immediately/ set another root password.


This time, don't forget your root password.  If you struggle to memorise
it, then *write it down* on its own, on a blank sheet of paper.  Don't 
add any really obvious text like this is the root password for my 
server -- after all, we don't want to make it too easy for anyone 
trying to break in do we?  Seal that paper in an envelope and keep it in 
a safe place.  But not so safe that you forget where you put it...


Cheers,

Matthew



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Re: How to restore a lost root password...

2008-10-25 Thread Matthew Seaman

Matthew Seaman wrote:

Matthew Seaman wrote:

DSA - JCR wrote:

Hi all

I have lost the neuron where I stored the root password of an 
installation ;D


I have seen a How to about this but I have a problem, i set the 
console
to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the how to i get a 
message

to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode.

Is there a way to restore/modify it, or not?

Some ideas?


You can try booting from installation media into 'fixit' mode or live
filesystem.  Once there, you can mount your HDD read-write; edit 
/etc/master.password to remove the crypted password string from the

line for the root account; run 'cap_mkdb ./master.passwd'; reboot back


Ooops. Make that:  'pwd_mkdb ./master.passwd'



Double ooops. make that: 'pwd_mkdb -d . ./master.passwd'

to your normal system and then log in as root (no password) and 
/immediately/ set another root password.


This time, don't forget your root password.  If you struggle to memorise
it, then *write it down* on its own, on a blank sheet of paper.  Don't 
add any really obvious text like this is the root password for my 
server -- after all, we don't want to make it too easy for anyone 
trying to break in do we?  Seal that paper in an envelope and keep it 
in a safe place.  But not so safe that you forget where you put it...


Cheers,

Matthew



Matthew



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Re: Gimp-help not working after portupgrade

2008-10-25 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Mike Clarke wrote:


gimp-help-2.4.1 worked OK with 2.4 but perhaps it's not compatible with
2.6. (I see from www.gimp.org that work is in progress on updating the
user manual for GIMP 2.6) so I thought I'd switch over to the online
help but then I got the following error message:

---
Could not open 'http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-help.xml' for reading:
Operation not supported

Perhaps you are missing GIO backends and need to install GVFS?
---

I have gio-fam-backend-2.16.5 and gvfs-0.2.5 installed.


With the same ports but also py25-gimp-app-2.6.1, it works here.  Gimp 
settings:


  User Manual: Use the online version
  Help browser to use: Web browser
  Web browser to use: firefox3 %s


This isn't restricted to just the online help, gimp won't load any file
via http.


Hadn't tried opening an image URL before, but that seems to work here as 
well.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: mpd - lcp protocol rejects

2008-10-25 Thread Ian Smith
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:08:13 +0300 CK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I'm running mpd 4.4 on 6.3-STABLE #4. Connecting with mpd to my ISP's 
  VPN server running poptop. Everything is ok for some time, and then all 
  of a sudden mpd starts throwing weird protocol rejects to log file and 
  vpn connection stops working.
  
  mpd.conf:

I can't answer your question, but I'm pretty sure that if you posted 
your nicely detailed message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] especially if 
cc'd to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you'll most likely get an informed response.

cheers, Ian
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re: DHCP server

2008-10-25 Thread bofh42
On Friday 24 October 2008, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm not sure if this is an issue with my dhcp server or the
client,
 but since I seem to get troubles with two different clients,
I'm
 thinking it might be the server:


 I've got a FreeBSD 7.0-p4 machine running
isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.5_2
 serving my home network. When my Linux (Archlinux) client
request
 a lease, this happens:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ dhcpcd -n eth0
 eth0: dhcpcd 4.0.2 starting
 eth0: broadcasting for a lease
 eth0: offered 10.0.0.176 from 10.0.1.1 `mirrorball'
 eth0: checking 10.0.0.176 is available on attached networks


Are you sure you are using the correct command to start the DHCP
client?

I'm not familiar with Archlinux, but on Debian linux the command
you 
need is dhclient.  On the other hand, dhcpd starts the dhcp
*server*


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Re: Gimp-help not working after portupgrade

2008-10-25 Thread Jan Henrik Sylvester

Mike wrote:
 After upgrading to Gimp 2.6.1 (on 6.4-RC1) I can't access
 the Gimp help files.

graphics/gimp-app misses a dependency:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2008-October/020978.html

Install www/webkit-gtk2 and rebuild graphics/gimp-app.

Please, report back if that solves the problem with gimp-help. If it 
does that might be an argument to add the dependency to gimp-app.


(The pkg-plist of graphics/gimp-app must be fixed one way or the other.)

Cheers,
Jan Henrik
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Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries?

2008-10-25 Thread Alexander Sack
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Alexander Kabaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:49:19 -0400
 Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Is this a bug or not in FreeBSD's rtld?

 -aps

 It is not. In case it was not clear before, I maintain that you _ask_
 rtld for wrong behaviour and you get back what you asked for, down to
 the letter. 'Tasting' libraries just because someone somewhere want to
 screw up their configuration does not seem right to me at all.

I maintain that rtld should not load 32-bit libraries for a 64-bit
binary. That is WRONG anyway you look at it.  And again, if it checked
the arch type and skipped libutil.so.5 in /usr/lib32 it would fall
back to checking /lib and things would work.  Moreover, if /usr/lib
had major number links just like /usr/lib32 has, this would again have
worked without issue.

I believe this will be fixed on the other side of the fence (not
setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include /usr/lib32 to begin wtih) but
still, my point still stands.

-aps
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Re: disappearing mouse pointer

2008-10-25 Thread Robert
Five days and no responses, so maybe more information. On this computer
I have on board GeForce 6100.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:5:0:class=0x03 card=0x81bf1043
chip=0x024210de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp'
device = 'GeForce 6100'
class  = display
subclass   = VGA

I have the same exact release and ports running on a different computer
equipped with a GeForce 6800 XT in an AGP slot without a problem. The
big difference is that other computer is running i386. It is using nv
driver without any problems.

Can anyone point me in the right direction. Feel free to tell me where
to go. :-)

Thanks
Robert

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:38:39 -0700
Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greetings FreeBSD
 
 When running XFCE4 I will lose the mouse pointer at times. This will
 only happen when I have the driver set to nv in xorg.conf. The mouse
 will still work as I can see where it is when I pass over icons and
 watch them highlight. If I can stop on an icon, I can click and it
 works.
 
 If I drop out of the XFCE4 using ctl-alt-backspace, the mouse pointer
 appears and all is well. If I restart the XFCE4, there is no pointer.
 If I change the driver to vesa and restart then I have a pointer
 again. The only way I have found to regain the pointer using nv is
 to reboot.
 
 All ports are up to date and I am running amd64 RELENG_7 as of last
 Saturday.
 
 uname -a
 FreeBSD asus64.shasta204.local 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE
 #1: Sat Oct 18 13:31:00 PDT 2008
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
 
 If I should have posted to a different list please let me know. I have
 also attached my xorg.conf.
 
 TIA
 
 Robert
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Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries?

2008-10-25 Thread Alexander Kabaev
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:10:53 -0400
Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Alexander Kabaev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:49:19 -0400
  Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Is this a bug or not in FreeBSD's rtld?
 
  -aps
 
  It is not. In case it was not clear before, I maintain that you
  _ask_ rtld for wrong behaviour and you get back what you asked for,
  down to the letter. 'Tasting' libraries just because someone
  somewhere want to screw up their configuration does not seem right
  to me at all.
 
 I maintain that rtld should not load 32-bit libraries for a 64-bit
 binary. That is WRONG anyway you look at it.  And again, if it checked
 the arch type and skipped libutil.so.5 in /usr/lib32 it would fall
 back to checking /lib and things would work.  Moreover, if /usr/lib
 had major number links just like /usr/lib32 has, this would again have
 worked without issue.
 
 I believe this will be fixed on the other side of the fence (not
 setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include /usr/lib32 to begin wtih) but
 still, my point still stands.
 
 -aps

It doesn't. Stop feeding 32 bit libraries and it won't try to load them.
It is as simple as that. For complex scenarious we do provide LD_32_
family of environment variables and if you refuse using them and insist
on sticking with clearly broken configuration, it your problem, not
rtld's.

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Re: Gimp-help not working after portupgrade

2008-10-25 Thread Mike Clarke
On Saturday 25 October 2008, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote:

 graphics/gimp-app misses a dependency:

 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2008-October/020978.
html

 Install www/webkit-gtk2 and rebuild graphics/gimp-app.

 Please, report back if that solves the problem with gimp-help. If it
 does that might be an argument to add the dependency to gimp-app.

I tried that but still had exactly the same problem.

I also reinstalled gimp, gimp-app and gimp-help after installing 
webkit-gtk2 but still no change.

curlew:/home/mike% pkg_info -Ix gimp webkit-gtk2
gimp-2.6.1,2The meta-port for The Gimp
gimp-app-2.6.1_1,1  A GNU Image Manipulation Program
gimp-gutenprint-5.1.7_1 GutenPrint Printer Driver
gimp-help-2.4.1 GIMP user's manual
webkit-gtk2-0.0.30549_1 An opensource browser engine

Gimp is firmly of the opinion that gimp-help isn't installed, the help 
tab of the preferences dialog has a message saying The user manual is 
not installed locally.

-- 
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The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-10-05 - 2008-10-25

2008-10-25 Thread Dan Langille
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical 
examples and how-to guides.  This message is posted weekly
to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people
know what's available on the website.  Before you post a question
here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list 
archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists 
and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. 

These are the articles posted during this period:

5-Oct : Removing dead mailing lists from Mailman
 Mailing lists can outlive their usefulness 
 http://freebsddiary.org/mailman-removing-dead-lists.php?2


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sudo multiple commands at once without shell script

2008-10-25 Thread Kelly Jones
How do I run multiple sudo commands at once? This fails because the
semicolon ends the whole sudo command:

 sudo whoami; whoami
root
user

This confuses tcsh:

monica:~ sudo ( whoami ; whoami )
Badly placed ()'s.

I could obviously write a shell script or something or do:

 sudo whoami; sudo whoami

but is there a better way?

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Re: sudo multiple commands at once without shell script

2008-10-25 Thread perryh
 How do I run multiple sudo commands at once? This fails
 because the semicolon ends the whole sudo command:

  sudo whoami; whoami
 root
 user

 This confuses tcsh:

 monica:~ sudo ( whoami ; whoami )
 Badly placed ()'s.

Supposing sudo spawns a shell, something like

  ~ sudo whoami \; whoami

or

  ~ sudo whoami; whoami

should work.  If not, maybe try explicitly running a shell:

  ~ sudo sh -c whoami; whoami
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Re: sudo multiple commands at once without shell script

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Marchand

This works for me:

sudo sh -c whoami;whoami



On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:11 PM, Kelly Jones wrote:


How do I run multiple sudo commands at once? This fails because the
semicolon ends the whole sudo command:


sudo whoami; whoami

root
user

This confuses tcsh:

monica:~ sudo ( whoami ; whoami )
Badly placed ()'s.

I could obviously write a shell script or something or do:


sudo whoami; sudo whoami


but is there a better way?

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to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to
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`mail'

2008-10-25 Thread Charles Darwin

Hi all,

I need some help to get mail working on my mac:
$ system_profiler SPSoftwareDataType |grep Version
 System Version: Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F33)
 Kernel Version: Darwin 9.5.0

I would like to be able to send mail's within my own network as well  
as over the Internet. Here part of my /var/log/mail.log while I was  
trying to send a test message using mail and/or postfix:


Oct 21 08:13:42 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
4A7521F61D7: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=303, nrcpt=1 (queue  
active)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/pickup[324]:  
080FD1FEF3F: uid=501 from=pm
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/cleanup[326]:  
080FD1FEF3F: message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
6E22817FC75: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=304, nrcpt=1 (queue  
active)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
B56C21F61F4: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=303, nrcpt=1 (queue  
active)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
93F9917FEFC: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=304, nrcpt=1 (queue  
active)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
080FD1FEF3F: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED],  
size=359, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
B3BB917FE7F: from=, size=2238, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
B807617FE80: from=, size=2232, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
BAA7F17FE82: from=, size=2236, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
BE481172602: from=, size=2046, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
C4FE417FC0D: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=305, nrcpt=1 (queue  
active)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/error[331]:  
080FD1FEF3F: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=0.63,  
delays=0.46/0.11/0/0.06, dsn=5.1.3, status=bounced (bad address syntax)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/cleanup[326]:  
59B1D1FEF41: message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
59B1D1FEF41: from=, size=2305, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/bounce[335]:  
080FD1FEF3F: sender non-delivery notification: 59B1D1FEF41
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
080FD1FEF3F: removed
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/local[339]:  
59B1D1FEF41: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],  
relay=local, delay=0.05, delays=0/0.05/0/0, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent  
(delivered to mailbox)
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/local[339]:  
warning: service not found: biff/udp
Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
59B1D1FEF41: removed
Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[334]: connect  
to bas2-montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation  
timed out (port 25)
Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[333]: connect  
to bas2-montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation  
timed out (port 25)
Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[334]:  
B3BB917FE7F: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],  
relay=none, delay=247947, delays=247916/0.09/30/0, dsn=4.4.1,  
status=deferred (connect to bas2- 
montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out)
Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[333]:  
B807617FE80: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],  
relay=none, delay=247947, delays=247917/0.02/30/0, dsn=4.4.1,  
status=deferred (connect to bas2- 
montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out)
Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[336]: connect  
to bas2-montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation  
timed out (port 25)
Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[337]: connect  
to bas2-montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation  
timed out (port 25)
Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[336]:  
BAA7F17FE82: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],  
relay=none, delay=247947, delays=247917/0.06/30/0, dsn=4.4.1,  
status=deferred (connect to bas2- 
montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out)
Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[337]:  
BE481172602: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],  
relay=none, delay=605971, delays=605941/0.06/30/0, dsn=4.4.1,  
status=deferred (connect to bas2- 
montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out)
Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]:  
BE481172602: from=, status=expired, returned to sender
Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[328]: connect  
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.27]: Operation timed out (port  
25)
Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[329]: connect  
to 

RE: How to restore a lost root password...

2008-10-25 Thread FBSD1
Go to www.a1poweruser.com and read section 13.7 Forgot Root password

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:56 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: How to restore a lost root password...

Hi all

I have lost the neuron where I stored the root password of an installation
;D

I have seen a How to about this but I have a problem, i set the console
to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the how to i get a message
to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode.

Is there a way to restore/modify it, or not?

Some ideas?


Thanks in advance

Juan Coruña
Desarrollo de Software Atlantico



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restrict FreeBSD users to their home directory

2008-10-25 Thread FBSD1
How do it configure FreeBSD to restrict users to their home directory?
I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other users?


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