Re: File system
You know what, dont worry about it. Thanks for the help all! You have been very helpful. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bobby, The VM is in my lab environemnt. I have many flavours of Windows, Linux and FreeBSD. FreeBSD is my firewall running PF. I have rebooted my entire environment hundreds of times, and non of my Windows or Linux VMs will complain or boot into a repair/single user mode. The background to this problem is because the FreeBSD root filesystem (UFS) is not journaled and for some reason I cannot set my root partition to be UFS+SoftUpdates. Well I'd say that's clearly not the problem since so many of us don't have your issues. SU is disabled on / for a reason. I highly doubt you actually want to enable this, but you can if you adjust the FS when it isn't mounted eg boot from fixit cd. At any rate, we are in the year 2010, most modern operating systems and databases and able to survive an unclean shutdown without booting into single user mode and file system/data corruption. FreeBSD has defaulted to background checking on SU FS's for the better part of 10 years. What version are you running? What data corruption did you have and what does databases have to do with it? Also DB's that are unexpectly killed can have consistency problems regardless of what FS it writes to and OS happens to be running it. I love FreeBSD, and have been a user since 2.x User as in you saw it running a couple times? So on to your actual issue instead of all the bs, what does your /etc/rc.conf say? Specifically, what is the boot failing on? If you really want the disk/partition/slice journaled, you can do so with gjournal or ZFS offers an even better copy-on-write system. If the install is only running a fw, the zfs is probably overkill though. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: File system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/05/2010 06:16:13, Adam Vande More wrote: The background to this problem is because the FreeBSD root filesystem (UFS) is not journaled and for some reason I cannot set my root partition to be UFS+SoftUpdates. Well I'd say that's clearly not the problem since so many of us don't have your issues. SU is disabled on / for a reason. I highly doubt you actually want to enable this, but you can if you adjust the FS when it isn't mounted eg boot from fixit cd. Softupdates is not normally enabled on the root, not because enabling SU there is a bad thing, but because the root is expected to be pretty much read-only. Thus there's no real point to having it. Historically, SU was disabled due to a bug where large writes to a filesystem (such as 'make installworld') could temporarily take up a lot of extra space, and given the usual propensity of root filesystems[*] to be too small in any case, that was killing people's ability to update. That bug was, however, fixed long ago so there's no particular reason not to have SU on the root nowadays. To turn on softupdates on the root, you need to *reboot* to single user mode, or else boot from a livecd. You can easily turn on softupdates on root from sysinstall at install time. You can implement journalling using gjournal -- just not from sysinstall. Or you can use ZFS which effectively has journalling and other filesystem goodness built-in. Search the wiki at http://wiki.freebsd.org/ for instructions. Cheers, Matthew [*] At the risk of sounding like a broken record -- using one big UFS filesystem for all of /, /usr, /var works really well, and gets rid of this sort of updating headache for ever. The question is moot for ZFS - -- you'ld allocate all the disk space from the same pool, but the devices you create are resizable, so you can divide it up as much s you like and set different flags on different locations without penalty. - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvmXUAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyN9gCgh3SP6L5sYrCb4Zb9Xjcghy0p UKQAn2fOap7e1hLZwdR+kusF4EG4CHjb =j50x -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: File system
On Sunday 09 May 2010 04:18:12 Ansar Mohammed wrote: The background to this problem is because the FreeBSD root filesystem (UFS) is not journaled and for some reason I cannot set my root partition to be UFS+SoftUpdates. At any rate, we are in the year 2010, most modern operating systems and databases and able to survive an unclean shutdown without booting into single user mode and file system/data corruption. Even with SoftUpdates and journaling you'll find UFS doesn't cope well with unclean shutdowns: to test it, a couple of weeks ago I started a rm -rf /usr/obj/* and pressed the reset button - upon startup I got dumped into single-user mode with a softupdates inconsistency. I've not tried the same test but I think ZFS is much better at recovering from this sort of problem since it was designed from the start to be very resilient. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: magic cmd[s]??
On Sunday 09 May 2010 03:54:43 Gary Kline wrote: for some reason, i am having trouble burning 80-release. i did get the oc-bsd dvd d/loaded And burned ... and my '05 thinkpad recognized the dvd and installed. i have failed several times to d/l the 8.0-R torrent. the checksums are valid. but usinng k3b only 50% of the task is burned. is there some magic command or procedure that i'm missing in burning the iso file from my torrent dir to the dvd? also, how do i erase the several dvd discs that i would like to reuse? there are dvd-rw. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html has a good explanation of how to write and erase DVDs. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
VirtualBox: no network
Hi, I'm running VirtualBox 3.1.6 on FreeBSD 8.0 amd64. I loaded the vboxdrv module on boot and started the vboxnet service. Then I set up an Ubuntu 10.04 amd64 guest and configured one bridged network interface. But I can't get an IP address from my DHCP server. When I check with tcpdump on all hosts, the traffic goes out from the Ubuntu guest over the FreeBSD host and arrives at my DHCP server. The replies come in on the host system but are then somehow not forwarded to the guest. I never see incoming traffic on the guest system. I tested this with the stock FreeBSD kernel and with both types bridged and NAT networking. There is no firewall on the host system. Any ideas? Thanks, Anselm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: File system
Thank you Bruce and Matthew, for your very informed and insightful comments. I read online that this may be fixed in FreeBSD 9 with jeff's UFS Journaling patch. Have you guys tried this yet? http://jeffr-tech.livejournal.com/ On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On Sunday 09 May 2010 04:18:12 Ansar Mohammed wrote: The background to this problem is because the FreeBSD root filesystem (UFS) is not journaled and for some reason I cannot set my root partition to be UFS+SoftUpdates. At any rate, we are in the year 2010, most modern operating systems and databases and able to survive an unclean shutdown without booting into single user mode and file system/data corruption. Even with SoftUpdates and journaling you'll find UFS doesn't cope well with unclean shutdowns: to test it, a couple of weeks ago I started a rm -rf /usr/obj/* and pressed the reset button - upon startup I got dumped into single-user mode with a softupdates inconsistency. I've not tried the same test but I think ZFS is much better at recovering from this sort of problem since it was designed from the start to be very resilient. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small computer to run a GUI?
Andrew Gould wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Liontaur liont...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: Sounds like you want a netbook. -- Adam Vande More I was more thinking of something without a monitor, keyboard or mouse. I want to put it in a cupboard and not worry about it. With a netbook i'd probably have to leave it open (or else it would go into suspend mode or heat up or...). I was just hoping for something Soekris size but with a VGA output. Mark Have you taken a look at the fit-PC2? Since it can run Linux, the odds are it can run FreeBSD as well. You might want to ask the creators. http://www.fit-pc.com/web/ Andrew Nice but doesn't have a VGA port (but does have HDMI) http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2-specifications/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small computer to run a GUI?
Liontaur wrote: Hi folks, I'm looking for a small (and relatively inexpensive) computer to run a GUI, I don't much care if it's KDE or Gnome or one of the others. Just so that I can browse the Internet using Firefox (unfortunately I may need to look at some flash). So they need to be able to run FreeBSD (obviously), a GUI, have a Cat5 port (10/100 is fine), and PS/2s for mouse and keyboard. USB is a bonus but not necessary. I remember seeing some kind of small terminals at the local library but I can't remember now who made them I think it was Weis or Weir or something like that but a google brings up nothing. I was hoping to either boot them over a network or using a CF card or something with a small footprint as well. I went checking out Soekris but couldn't really see if they offer a GUI, the models I looked at didn't have a VGA port though. I was hoping for something about 9 inches square and three inches thick, or smaller. Thanks folks! Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org http://www.very-pc.co.uk/?section=home-pcs look nice but maybe not cheap enough. I haven't tried one myself. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: File system
On Sunday 09 May 2010 12:54:59 Ansar Mohammed wrote: Thank you Bruce and Matthew, for your very informed and insightful comments. I read online that this may be fixed in FreeBSD 9 with jeff's UFS Journaling patch. Have you guys tried this yet? http://jeffr-tech.livejournal.com/ My test where I pressed the reset button was with SU+J: since the journaling is built upon SoftUpdates it does nothing to improve reliability, but simply exists to remove the need to run fsck on boot. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small computer to run a GUI?
per...@pluto.rain.com writes: Sounds a bit like a ShivaPlug. Or something almost identical. Thanks. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small computer to run a GUI?
-- From: Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:03 AM To: Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small computer to run a GUI? Andrew Gould wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Liontaur liont...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: Sounds like you want a netbook. -- Adam Vande More I was more thinking of something without a monitor, keyboard or mouse. I want to put it in a cupboard and not worry about it. With a netbook i'd probably have to leave it open (or else it would go into suspend mode or heat up or...). I was just hoping for something Soekris size but with a VGA output. Mark Have you taken a look at the fit-PC2? Since it can run Linux, the odds are it can run FreeBSD as well. You might want to ask the creators. http://www.fit-pc.com/web/ Andrew Nice but doesn't have a VGA port (but does have HDMI) http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2-specifications/ you mean like the adapter they sell? http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/accessories/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small computer to run a GUI?
Sean Cavanaugh wrote: -- From: Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:03 AM To: Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small computer to run a GUI? Andrew Gould wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Liontaur liont...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: Sounds like you want a netbook. -- Adam Vande More I was more thinking of something without a monitor, keyboard or mouse. I want to put it in a cupboard and not worry about it. With a netbook i'd probably have to leave it open (or else it would go into suspend mode or heat up or...). I was just hoping for something Soekris size but with a VGA output. Mark Have you taken a look at the fit-PC2? Since it can run Linux, the odds are it can run FreeBSD as well. You might want to ask the creators. http://www.fit-pc.com/web/ Andrew Nice but doesn't have a VGA port (but does have HDMI) http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2-specifications/ you mean like the adapter they sell? http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/accessories/ Ah ha didn't see that, in fact several useful looking items on the same page. Oh, available soon for the vga adapter... :) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSDstats website displaying data incorrectly
On Thu, 6 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Why does this page show PCBSD has count of 387 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os= And this page shows PCBSD has count of 1307 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os=PC-BSD Why is this? I would think both should show the same value, or you better add explanation to the web page why the count is different. This was a database setup problem, and I've updated the code to pull out of the proper database. if anyone notices any other discrepancies please let me know. Thanks, Bobby___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [#24488139] Re: Small computer to run a GUI?
Is anyone else getting these automated replies? I have been getting them while including Sean Cavanagh, Andrew Gould and liontaur in replies on the above subject. If the person who is responsible for these automated replies is reading this please could you adjust your list subscription address to prevent them, they are really annoying. Thanks Chris Sean Cavanaugh wrote: Hello, This is an automated response to inform you that your question has been entered into our system, and will be reviewed shortly. Your ticket has been submitted into the General Support department. We will respond to you as soon as possible. == Please keep this information, and use it when refering to your ticket: Ticket subject: Re: Small computer to run a GUI? Ticket number: 24488139 Ticket link: https://secure.mpcustomer.com/ticket.php?ticket=24488139 Ticket body: Sean Cavanaugh wrote: -- From: Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:03 AM To: Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small computer to run a GUI? Andrew Gould wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Liontaur liont...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: Sounds like you want a netbook. -- Adam Vande More I was more thinking of something without a monitor, keyboard or mouse. I want to put it in a cupboard and not worry about it. With a netbook i'd probably have to leave it open (or else it would go into suspend mode or heat up or...). I was just hoping for something Soekris size but with a VGA output. Mark Have you taken a look at the fit-PC2? Since it can run Linux, the odds are it can run FreeBSD as well. You might want to ask the creators. http://www.fit-pc.com/web/ Andrew Nice but doesn't have a VGA port (but does have HDMI) http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2-specifications/ you mean like the adapter they sell? http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/accessories/ Ah ha didn't see that, in fact several useful looking items on the same page. Oh, available soon for the vga adapter... :) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org == ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [#24488139] Re: Small computer to run a GUI?
On 2010-05-09 19:15, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Is anyone else getting these automated replies? I have been getting them while including Sean Cavanagh, Andrew Gould and liontaur in replies on the above subject. I got one yeserday on another topic. I have no idea from whom. /Leslie If the person who is responsible for these automated replies is reading this please could you adjust your list subscription address to prevent them, they are really annoying. Thanks Chris Sean Cavanaugh wrote: Hello, This is an automated response to inform you that your question has been entered into our system, and will be reviewed shortly. Your ticket has been submitted into the General Support department. We will respond to you as soon as possible. == Please keep this information, and use it when refering to your ticket: Ticket subject: Re: Small computer to run a GUI? Ticket number: 24488139 Ticket link: https://secure.mpcustomer.com/ticket.php?ticket=24488139 Ticket body: Sean Cavanaugh wrote: -- From: Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:03 AM To: Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small computer to run a GUI? Andrew Gould wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Liontaur liont...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: Sounds like you want a netbook. -- Adam Vande More I was more thinking of something without a monitor, keyboard or mouse. I want to put it in a cupboard and not worry about it. With a netbook i'd probably have to leave it open (or else it would go into suspend mode or heat up or...). I was just hoping for something Soekris size but with a VGA output. Mark Have you taken a look at the fit-PC2? Since it can run Linux, the odds are it can run FreeBSD as well. You might want to ask the creators. http://www.fit-pc.com/web/ Andrew Nice but doesn't have a VGA port (but does have HDMI) http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2-specifications/ you mean like the adapter they sell? http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/accessories/ Ah ha didn't see that, in fact several useful looking items on the same page. Oh, available soon for the vga adapter... :) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org == ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Addition to BSDstats
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 02:56:49PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Maybe some sort of 'Server Running *BSD' icon / link from web sites to bsdstats.org would help too ... Not all BSD Unix systems are servers. This email was composed in Mutt+Vim on FreeBSD 7.2 on a ThinkPad R52. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpJdYyEn7zLl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: magic cmd[s]??
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 10:47:31AM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: On Sunday 09 May 2010 03:54:43 Gary Kline wrote: for some reason, i am having trouble burning 80-release. i did get the oc-bsd dvd d/loaded And burned ... and my '05 thinkpad recognized the dvd and installed. i have failed several times to d/l the 8.0-R torrent. the checksums are valid. but usinng k3b only 50% of the task is burned. is there some magic command or procedure that i'm missing in burning the iso file from my torrent dir to the dvd? also, how do i erase the several dvd discs that i would like to reuse? there are dvd-rw. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html has a good explanation of how to write and erase DVDs. Gk. more than i needed to know! it isn't 'erase'; rather 'blank'; moreover, it seems that i can just overwrite the dvd+rw. my thinkpad optical device =is=, surprisingly, good. my old 5.3 install CD works, so if i torrent either the boot or the 8.0-'all' data, i should have something that boots and also has all of 8.0-R. [[anybody know if i'm right/wrong/just-hoping?]] i found the cvsup stuff on pc-bsd, and it looks very much like my 7.3 files and directories here. has anybody tried to install 8.0-release FreeBSD on top of pc-bsd? [in other words: will it work, or am i likely to see smoke coming from my boat-anchor?] -- Bruce Cran -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [#24488139] Re: Small computer to run a GUI?
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 07:35:06PM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: On 2010-05-09 19:15, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Is anyone else getting these automated replies? I have been getting them while including Sean Cavanagh, Andrew Gould and liontaur in replies on the above subject. I got one yeserday on another topic. I have no idea from whom. /Leslie likewise; i saw an earlier post of mine tagged with a #ticket, from supp...@. strange... . gary If the person who is responsible for these automated replies is reading this please could you adjust your list subscription address to prevent them, they are really annoying. Thanks Chris Sean Cavanaugh wrote: Hello, This is an automated response to inform you that your question has been entered into our system, and will be reviewed shortly. Your ticket has been submitted into the General Support department. We will respond to you as soon as possible. == Please keep this information, and use it when refering to your ticket: Ticket subject: Re: Small computer to run a GUI? Ticket number: 24488139 Ticket link: https://secure.mpcustomer.com/ticket.php?ticket=24488139 Ticket body: Sean Cavanaugh wrote: -- From: Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:03 AM To: Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small computer to run a GUI? Andrew Gould wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Liontaur liont...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: Sounds like you want a netbook. -- Adam Vande More I was more thinking of something without a monitor, keyboard or mouse. I want to put it in a cupboard and not worry about it. With a netbook i'd probably have to leave it open (or else it would go into suspend mode or heat up or...). I was just hoping for something Soekris size but with a VGA output. Mark Have you taken a look at the fit-PC2? Since it can run Linux, the odds are it can run FreeBSD as well. You might want to ask the creators. http://www.fit-pc.com/web/ Andrew Nice but doesn't have a VGA port (but does have HDMI) http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2-specifications/ you mean like the adapter they sell? http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/accessories/ Ah ha didn't see that, in fact several useful looking items on the same page. Oh, available soon for the vga adapter... :) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org == ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
a clue....
guys, me-thinks siomebody is messing with us. i append something i just got from mpcustomer.com. 'host' and 'whois' don't tell very much:: tao# host 208.43.146.75 75.146.43.208.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer secure.mpcustomer.com. tao# whois !$ whois 208.43.146.75 SoftLayer Technologies Inc. SOFTLAYER-4-6 (NET-208-43-0-0-1) 208.43.0.0 - 208.43.255.255 Hosting Services Inc. NET-208-43-146-64 (NET-208-43-146-64-1) 208.43.146.64 - 208.43.146.95 # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2010-05-08 20:00 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Return-Path: br...@cran.org.uk Received: from secure.mpcustomer.com (secure.mpcustomer.com [208.43.146.75]) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o49IEFAV057633 for kl...@thought.org; Sun, 9 May 2010 11:14:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from br...@cran.org.uk) Received: by secure.mpcustomer.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 0E9B22781AF; Sun, 9 May 2010 13:14:15 -0500 (CDT) To: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org Subject: [#24488295] Re: magic cmd[s]?? Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 13:14:15 -0500 From: Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk Reply-To: supp...@mpcustomer.com Message-ID: 67eac0cc7ff8d25c79c2f86922bbe...@secure.mpcustomer.com X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer (phpmailer.sourceforge.net) [version 2.0.4] X-Uberinst: uber_phase-support X-Mailer: Ubersmith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=3.6 tests=BAYES_00, GUARANTEED_100_PERCENT,J_CHICKENPOX_32 autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on ethic.thought.org Content-Length: 2397 Lines: 62 Hello, This is an automated response to inform you that your question has been entered into our system, and will be reviewed shortly. Your ticket has been submitted into the General Support department. We will respond to you as soon as possible. == Please keep this information, and use it when refering to your ticket: Ticket subject: Re: magic cmd[s]?? Ticket number: 24488295 Ticket link: https://secure.mpcustomer.com/ticket.php?ticket=24488295 Ticket body: On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 10:47:31AM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: On Sunday 09 May 2010 03:54:43 Gary Kline wrote: for some reason, i am having trouble burning 80-release. i did get the oc-bsd dvd d/loaded And burned ... and my '05 thinkpad recognized the dvd and installed. i have failed several times to d/l the 8.0-R torrent. the checksums are valid. but usinng k3b only 50% of the task is burned. is there some magic command or procedure that i'm missing in burning the iso file from my torrent dir to the dvd? also, how do i erase the several dvd discs that i would like to reuse? there are dvd-rw. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html has a good explanation of how to write and erase DVDs. Gk. more than i needed to know! it isn't 'erase'; rather 'blank'; moreover, it seems that i can just overwrite the dvd+rw. my thinkpad optical device =is=, surprisingly, good. my old 5.3 install CD works, so if i torrent either the boot or the 8.0-'all' data, i should have something that boots and also has all of 8.0-R. [[anybody know if i'm right/wrong/just-hoping?]] i found the cvsup stuff on pc-bsd, and it looks very much like my 7.3 files and directories here. has anybody tried to install 8.0-release FreeBSD on top of pc-bsd? [in other words: will it work, or am i likely to see smoke coming from my boat-anchor?] -- Bruce Cran -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org == ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a clue....
On Sunday 09 May 2010 19:40:33 Gary Kline wrote: guys, me-thinks siomebody is messing with us. i append something i just got from mpcustomer.com. 'host' and 'whois' don't tell very much:: I talked to someone in tech support through http://status.midphase.com/ who runs mpcustomer.com and he says he's tried to unsubscribe from the list without success (also tried via the web interface): the confirmation email never comes. I guess someone will need to remove them from the list manually. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Why TB forgets attachment application choices?
This happened many times: .pps attachment comes in, I double click, I choose an app (openoffice). Checkbox Do this automatically for files like this is gray. Next time .pps comes in the whole process happens again. Is this a bug in TB? Or is this the bug in port patches? Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Addition to BSDstats
On Sun, 9 May 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 02:56:49PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Maybe some sort of 'Server Running *BSD' icon / link from web sites to bsdstats.org would help too ... Not all BSD Unix systems are servers. True, but, then again, few desktops users probably run web servers to display such an icon on :) But, that said, we're looking at something like either 'Member of' or 'Contributor to' instead ... Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scra...@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappySkype: hub.orgICQ:7615664MSN:scra...@hub.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Live Filesystem (Fixit Console) and NFS FreeBSD8
Hi all, I had a routine disk change that we required today, thought it would take me 2 hours, took close to 8. I am sure there is something I did'nt read, or do, if anyone can help me understand I would appreciate it. I have several machines connected to a NFS share on a local network. When I put the new disk in the machine, booted it up with FreeBSD(8) Live CD, went to the Fixit Console, I was unable to get the machine to connect to the Netowrk File Share. All other machines were still connected and functioning. I brought up the Clinet interface with: ifconfig em1 inet 192.168.0.5/24 and was able to ping the NFS server with no problems. I was also able to SSH to the NFS server no problems. The NFS server is set to allow all hosts in the 192.168.0.0/24 network. Here is the command line I was using on the client: mount 192.168.0.4:/mnt /enterprise The error I got was: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Program not registered I tried everything I could think of to get it to work, adding nfs_client_enable=YES to a rc.conf I created in etc/, tried nfsiod -n 4 ... all that. I tried starting rpcbind etc etc. Again, any help would be appreciated, -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
phys vs real vs user (avail) memory?
Hello, I was wondering about the memory indications displayed at boot time. For example: # dmesg| grep memory real memory = 51539607552 (49152 MB) avail memory = 49663688704 (47362 MB) The real memory is the size of the RAM modules in this computer (48 Gb). What's avail memory? The memory left after loading the kernel and its data structures? # sysctl -a | grep -i hw.[a-z]*mem hw.physmem: 51469168640 hw.usermem: 48338657280 hw.realmem: 53418655744 How come physmem be lower and realmem be higher than real memory? As an exercise, i've been unable to malloc more than 38 Gb of memory, despite having at least 43 Gb free at the time: # sysctl -a | egrep vm.stats.vm.v_(free_count|inactive_count|cache_count|page_size) vm.stats.vm.v_cache_count: 19 vm.stats.vm.v_inactive_count: 2113 vm.stats.vm.v_free_count: 11414720 vm.stats.vm.v_page_size: 4096 # sysctl kern.maxdsiz kern.maxdsiz: 51539607552 # mdconfig -a -t malloc -o reserve -s 38g md0 # mdconfig -d -u 0 # mdconfig -a -t malloc -o reserve -s 39g mdconfig: ioctl(/dev/mdctl): Cannot allocate memory Just for the sake of curiosity, any idea about why? Best regards, Hubert -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/phys-vs-real-vs-user-%28avail%29-memory--tp28505453p28505453.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: File system
P From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sat May 8 21:04:45 2010 Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 21:36:17 -0400 From: Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: File system Hello All, I have a FreeBSD VM running. Whenever I reboot the VM without a clean shutdown it boots into single user mode and I have to run fsck. When I run fsck, the file system clearly has issues. Is there any way to have FreeBSD run on a better file system that wont crap out on me everytime I do and unclean shutdown? This is a DDT problem -- as in Don't Do That. The -correct- fix is to 'change your expectations' -- and change your behavior. *DO* a clean shutdown _before_ repooting the VM. solves all your self-induced(!!) problems. Unix-type operating systems are intended for use by people who -know- what they are doing. As such, it makes little effort to protect admins from _their_own_ mistakes. Unix, and by derivation FreeBSD, _will_ *WILLINGLY* give you enough rope to hang yourself, if you ask for it. This is one of the _strengths_ of Unix -- it does *NOT* restrict you to what 'someone else' thinks is reasonable. Corollary: more 'smarts' are required on the part of the admin, _because_ you do not have the 'restricted choices' of someone else's criteria. You can either Do things the _right_ way, as described in the 'fine manual', which it is _necessary_ to read, or you can persist in risky/wrong/stupid behaviors, and 'hope for' less-than-catatstrophic results from that 'bad behavior'. *YOUR* choice. That said, If you intend to persist in doing things the 'wrong way', ther are some things you can try, to ameliorate the problems you're having: 1) You can try running with all disks restricted to 'synchronous' operations; This =will= keep the filesystem 'clean' _almost_ all the time, and your BAD IDEA(TM) arbitrary reboots will find only minimal (if any) fsck issues. You _will_ pay a *tremendous* price in system performance for using this option, however. 2) You could try using a 'journaling' filesystem, *BUT* you'd have to build/ implement it yourself. Journaling filesystems are deliberately _not_ provided with FreeBSD, due to security issues/implications with them. _You_ will have to decide if the security risks in *your* envrionment are worth the (limited) benefits. 3) you can switch to an OS _intended_ for use by the ill-informed; where the provider makes all the decisions for you, and allows only what they think is reasonable. BUT, such an OS isn't going to look like Unix, nor feel like it, nor act like it. Again, _YOUR_ choice. To quote from one of the Indiana Jones movies: choose wisely. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [#24488400] Why TB forgets attachment application choices?
supp...@midphase.com wrote: Hello, I'm unsure of what you are referring to as TB. Are you referring to a Dedicated server, by chance? (You have reached Shared Hosting support. We are not familiar with the Dedicated systems.) I didn't contact any midphase and don't know what that refers to, and why modphase replies. TB =ThunderBird. I wrote to ge...@freebsd.org and CC to freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org. Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [#24488400] Why TB forgets attachment application choices?
Hello, I'm unsure of what you are referring to as TB. Are you referring to a Dedicated server, by chance? (You have reached Shared Hosting support. We are not familiar with the Dedicated systems.) Also: You are contacting us from an unauthorized email address. In order to verify that you are an authorized user and provide you with sensitive information or management for this account, we’ll need your Client ID and any of the following information from you that is on file with midPhase. 1. The last 4 digits of your credit card and the expiration on your credit card. 2. A copy of your welcome email can also suffice to verify you. 3. An email from the authorized email contact on your account. If you are unable to provide any of this information, you can either call us at 1-866-643-7427 or internationally at 1-435-787-7101 from the phone # on file, or you can just open a new ticket from the email address we have on file for you. We look forward to hearing from you soon. Thank you. -- Best regards, Breanne “Cari” Carlson Technical Support Representative Hosting Services - How was your experience with this ticket? Please let us know by completing the following survey: https://secure.mpcustomer.com/order/phpQ/fillsurvey.php?sid=2id=24488400 For answers to common questions please check our knowledgebase at midphasehelp.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [#24488400] Why TB forgets attachment application choices?
Hello Yuri, Someone looks to be forwarding an address from the mailing list to our queue. We are currently working to track down what address is being used so we can take steps to stop it. -- Best regards, Brandon Scriver Technical Support Representative Hosting Services Inc. - How was your experience with this ticket? Please let us know by completing the following survey: https://secure.mpcustomer.com/order/phpQ/fillsurvey.php?sid=2id=24488400 For answers to common questions please check our knowledgebase at midphasehelp.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [#24488400] Why TB forgets attachment application choices?
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 03:10:08PM -0700, Yuri wrote: supp...@midphase.com wrote: Hello, I'm unsure of what you are referring to as TB. Are you referring to a Dedicated server, by chance? (You have reached Shared Hosting support. We are not familiar with the Dedicated systems.) I didn't contact any midphase and don't know what that refers to, and why modphase replies. TB =ThunderBird. I wrote to ge...@freebsd.org and CC to freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org. Yuri hi people, first, thanks to bruce cran for calling midphase.com from the uk and getting involved. i was ready to fire off some ugly email their way about this fmess-up since i was the first poster #ticketed. i do not appreciate this kind of prank anymore than anyone else onlist. this may be yet-another-kiddie-scriptor who has found more holes in php-ware. ...i trust than when he is found:: show no mercy, take no prisoners. gary (***) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Live Filesystem (Fixit Console) and NFS FreeBSD8
Robert, Maybe I should rephrase the question: What would the correct procedure be to connect a machine to an NFS share on another machine (local network, hardware already connected) with NFS using the FreeBSD(8) Live CD (Fixit Console)? -Grant - Original Message - From: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com To: gp...@thenetnow.com Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Live Filesystem (Fixit Console) and NFS FreeBSD8 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sun May 9 15:49:35 2010 From: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 16:49:17 -0400 Subject: Live Filesystem (Fixit Console) and NFS FreeBSD8 Hi all, I had a routine disk change that we required today, thought it would take me 2 hours, took close to 8. I am sure there is something I did'nt read, or do, if anyone can help me understand I would appreciate it. I have several machines connected to a NFS share on a local network. When I put the new disk in the machine, booted it up with FreeBSD(8) Live CD, went to the Fixit Console, I was unable to get the machine to connect to the Netowrk File Share. All other machines were still connected and functioning. I brought up the Clinet interface with: ifconfig em1 inet 192.168.0.5/24 and was able to ping the NFS server with no problems. I was also able to SSH to the NFS server no problems. The NFS server is set to allow all hosts in the 192.168.0.0/24 network. Here is the command line I was using on the client: mount 192.168.0.4:/mnt /enterprise The error I got was: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Program not registered I tried everything I could think of to get it to work, adding nfs_client_enable=YES to a rc.conf I created in etc/, tried nfsiod -n 4 ... all that. I tried starting rpcbind etc etc. Again, any help would be appreciated, you need the portmapper running you need 'nfsd' and you need 'nfsiod' AND you need NIS (the 'yp*' stuff) running. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
port pkg-plist
In a port I am creating I have some files that are not in the /usr/local directory tree. There in /var/log /var/db. What is the correct format of the statement in ports pkg-plist file to have these files deleted when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port pkg-plist
Yuri Pankov wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:46:09AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: In a port I am creating I have some files that are not in the /usr/local directory tree. There in /var/log /var/db. What is the correct format of the statement in ports pkg-plist file to have these files deleted when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command. @cwd /var db/dbfile log/logfile HTH, Yuri Thanks that worked. Have another question. During the install of the port it adds a enable=YES statement to /etc/rc.conf. It there some pre-canned way to auto remove that statement when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port pkg-plist
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:46:09AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: In a port I am creating I have some files that are not in the /usr/local directory tree. There in /var/log /var/db. What is the correct format of the statement in ports pkg-plist file to have these files deleted when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command. @cwd /var db/dbfile log/logfile HTH, Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port pkg-plist
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:19:35AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: Yuri Pankov wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:46:09AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: In a port I am creating I have some files that are not in the /usr/local directory tree. There in /var/log /var/db. What is the correct format of the statement in ports pkg-plist file to have these files deleted when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command. @cwd /var db/dbfile log/logfile HTH, Yuri Thanks that worked. Have another question. During the install of the port it adds a enable=YES statement to /etc/rc.conf. It there some pre-canned way to auto remove that statement when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command? You shouldn't directly modify rc.conf to enable some service, put instructions on how to enable it in pkg-message instead. Having said that, check @unexec command, which is run on package deinstallation. Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port pkg-plist
Yuri Pankov wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:19:35AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: Yuri Pankov wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:46:09AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: In a port I am creating I have some files that are not in the /usr/local directory tree. There in /var/log /var/db. What is the correct format of the statement in ports pkg-plist file to have these files deleted when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command. @cwd /var db/dbfile log/logfile HTH, Yuri Thanks that worked. Have another question. During the install of the port it adds a enable=YES statement to /etc/rc.conf. It there some pre-canned way to auto remove that statement when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command? You shouldn't directly modify rc.conf to enable some service, put instructions on how to enable it in pkg-message instead. Having said that, check @unexec command, which is run on package deinstallation. Yuri Where do I find doc on this @unexec command? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSDstats website displaying data incorrectly
Bobby Walker wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Why does this page show PCBSD has count of 387 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os= And this page shows PCBSD has count of 1307 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os=PC-BSD Why is this? I would think both should show the same value, or you better add explanation to the web page why the count is different. This was a database setup problem, and I've updated the code to pull out of the proper database. if anyone notices any other discrepancies please let me know. Thanks, Bobby___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Why does http://www.bsdstats.org/ and http://bsdstats.hub.org/bt/home.html?os=FreeBSD still show different counts if you fixed this problem? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port pkg-plist
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:32:26AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: Yuri Pankov wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:19:35AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: Yuri Pankov wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:46:09AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: In a port I am creating I have some files that are not in the /usr/local directory tree. There in /var/log /var/db. What is the correct format of the statement in ports pkg-plist file to have these files deleted when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command. @cwd /var db/dbfile log/logfile HTH, Yuri Thanks that worked. Have another question. During the install of the port it adds a enable=YES statement to /etc/rc.conf. It there some pre-canned way to auto remove that statement when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command? You shouldn't directly modify rc.conf to enable some service, put instructions on how to enable it in pkg-message instead. Having said that, check @unexec command, which is run on package deinstallation. Yuri Where do I find doc on this @unexec command? All these commands are documented in pkg_create(1). Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [#24488694] port pkg-plist
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Re: port pkg-plist
Yuri Pankov wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:32:26AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: Yuri Pankov wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:19:35AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: Yuri Pankov wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:46:09AM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: In a port I am creating I have some files that are not in the /usr/local directory tree. There in /var/log /var/db. What is the correct format of the statement in ports pkg-plist file to have these files deleted when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command. @cwd /var db/dbfile log/logfile HTH, Yuri Thanks that worked. Have another question. During the install of the port it adds a enable=YES statement to /etc/rc.conf. It there some pre-canned way to auto remove that statement when the port is deleted with pkg_delete command? You shouldn't directly modify rc.conf to enable some service, put instructions on how to enable it in pkg-message instead. Having said that, check @unexec command, which is run on package deinstallation. Yuri Where do I find doc on this @unexec command? All these commands are documented in pkg_create(1). Thanks I read that. It will launch what I want to do at deinstall time. But I still need code to parse through a config file looking for a match to the desired literal and then delete that line from the config file and save it. I dont know how to do that in a .sh script. I need a sample doing that using the @unexec command and then I will be able to tweak it to my needs. Can you help me out? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSDstats website displaying data incorrectly
On May 9, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Aiza wrote: Bobby Walker wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Why does this page show PCBSD has count of 387 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os= And this page shows PCBSD has count of 1307 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os=PC-BSD Why is this? I would think both should show the same value, or you better add explanation to the web page why the count is different. This was a database setup problem, and I've updated the code to pull out of the proper database. if anyone notices any other discrepancies please let me know. Thanks, Bobby___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Why does http://www.bsdstats.org/ and http://bsdstats.hub.org/bt/home.html?os=FreeBSD still show different counts if you fixed this problem? I made the correction on the development site and did not have any issues. In fact, I still don't have problems with it at all. On the live site, though, there's something amiss with the way the template system is interacting with the database. So, I'm trying to track down the problem. Here are my temporary hurdles, I'm still wading through the template system. The more familiar I get with the layout of that, the faster things seem to go. And I usually get an hour or so a day to work with it. But, I am plugging away at it. I'll post an update when I isolate the erroneous problems. Thanks for the heads up! -- Bobby ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
how to find literal in file and them delete that line
I want to search every line in the specified file for a literal and if found then delete that line from the file and save the file all from within a sh type of shell script. Does anyone have a example they would share with me? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to find literal in file and them delete that line
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: I want to search every line in the specified file for a literal and if found then delete that line from the file and save the file all from within a sh type of shell script. man(1) sed Regards Alberto Mijares ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to find literal in file and them delete that line
Alberto Mijares wrote: On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: I want to search every line in the specified file for a literal and if found then delete that line from the file and save the file all from within a sh type of shell script. man(1) sed Regards That makes no sense to me. need example ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to find literal in file and them delete that line
On Mon, 10 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Alberto Mijares wrote: On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: I want to search every line in the specified file for a literal and if found then delete that line from the file and save the file all from within a sh type of shell script. man(1) sed That makes no sense to me. need example What makes no sense? The sed(1) man page? Which section in particular is confusing? And please, explain the rationale for making your port automatically edit /etc/rc.conf. -- Sahil Tandon sa...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSDstats website displaying data incorrectly
Just to elaborate on the issue ... it looks like both of those pages are using different QUERIES to the database ... in the former, it is using a system view that I was able to update after we fixed the issue with country reporting, such that it doesn't show records older then that date ... the latter page is pulling the data via a different method (which Bobby is looking into) so that its actually pulling in older date (ie. a two months average vs just the past 10 days or so) ... Both are accurate, just different time periods ... On Sun, 9 May 2010, Bobby Walker wrote: On May 9, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Aiza wrote: Bobby Walker wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Why does this page show PCBSD has count of 387 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os= And this page shows PCBSD has count of 1307 http://www.bsdstats.org/bt/home.html?os=PC-BSD Why is this? I would think both should show the same value, or you better add explanation to the web page why the count is different. This was a database setup problem, and I've updated the code to pull out of the proper database. if anyone notices any other discrepancies please let me know. Thanks, Bobby___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Why does http://www.bsdstats.org/ and http://bsdstats.hub.org/bt/home.html?os=FreeBSD still show different counts if you fixed this problem? I made the correction on the development site and did not have any issues. In fact, I still don't have problems with it at all. On the live site, though, there's something amiss with the way the template system is interacting with the database. So, I'm trying to track down the problem. Here are my temporary hurdles, I'm still wading through the template system. The more familiar I get with the layout of that, the faster things seem to go. And I usually get an hour or so a day to work with it. But, I am plugging away at it. I'll post an update when I isolate the erroneous problems. Thanks for the heads up! -- Bobby ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scra...@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappySkype: hub.orgICQ:7615664MSN:scra...@hub.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to find literal in file and them delete that line
Sahil Tandon wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Alberto Mijares wrote: On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: I want to search every line in the specified file for a literal and if found then delete that line from the file and save the file all from within a sh type of shell script. man(1) sed That makes no sense to me. need example What makes no sense? The sed(1) man page? Which section in particular is confusing? And please, explain the rationale for making your port automatically edit /etc/rc.conf. editing /etc/rc.conf was just given as a example for the post. Yes the whole man sed reads like Greek. For a neophyte programmer I can not even begin to comprehend what its saying. That man page needs examples of use. You have forgotten that those man pages are for reference for people who all ready know how to use it. Its not intended for novices. So yes it's useless to me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to find literal in file and them delete that line
Alberto Mijares wrote: On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Fbsd1 fbsd1 at a1poweruser.com wrote: I want to search every line in the specified file for a literal and if found then delete that line from the file and save the file all from within a sh type of shell script. man(1) sed Regards That makes no sense to me. need example It would make sense if you read the sed(1) and re_format(7) manpages. They may be a pain at first, but they are used often and can make your life a lot easier. There are also a lot of tutorial on the web, with many useful examples, e.g.: http://sed.sourceforge.net/grabbag/ He is suggesting that, rather than using sh(1), you should use sed(1), which is typically used for this sort of task, and is also part of the base system, in some fashion like, for example: sed -e '/literal/d' file If you insist on doing this with sh(1), which will probably be less efficient, then you can cobble something together with a 'case' statement, or parameter expansion with substring processing. See the sh(1) manpage. I hope that you are not intending to use this for a FreeBSD Port in the context of your earlier message. As someone else has already told you, ports should _not_ be automatically editing configuration files like rc.conf. Instead they should just indicate what should be added by the user or administrator in a pkg-message. Although you are free to do whatever you want on your own system, if you submit a port that attempts to tamper with such files to FreeBSD Ports, it is likely that that part of your submission will be rejected. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to find literal in file and them delete that line
b. f. wrote: Alberto Mijares wrote: snip It would make sense if you read the sed(1) and re_format(7) manpages. They may be a pain at first, but they are used often and can make your life a lot easier. There are also a lot of tutorial on the web, with many useful examples, e.g.: http://sed.sourceforge.net/grabbag/ He is suggesting that, rather than using sh(1), you should use sed(1), which is typically used for this sort of task, and is also part of the base system, in some fashion like, for example: sed -e '/literal/d' file If you insist on doing this with sh(1), which will probably be less efficient, then you can cobble something together with a 'case' statement, or parameter expansion with substring processing. See the sh(1) manpage. I hope that you are not intending to use this for a FreeBSD Port in the context of your earlier message. As someone else has already told you, ports should _not_ be automatically editing configuration files like rc.conf. Instead they should just indicate what should be added by the user or administrator in a pkg-message. Although you are free to do whatever you want on your own system, if you submit a port that attempts to tamper with such files to FreeBSD Ports, it is likely that that part of your submission will be rejected. Thank you for your kind in-sight. Using sh was again just comments to help explain what I needed help with. A list reader replied offline with examples and now I have what I needed to proceed. Thanks to all who replied. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
