Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 08:38:59PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
 
 
 On Apr 2, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
 
  On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:29:23PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
  Get a Gmail account.
  
  
  i tried about a year ago: gdk98188; now i cannot get in.
  something is hosed ...
 
 
 They're free, make a new one.



pretty sure i tried but there was a yelp about my
kl...@thought.org address.  i'lll try again.  IIRC, after
messing around for 20 minutes i just quit.  


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Re: Port dependencies

2011-04-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 08:07:25PM -0700, Chris Telting wrote:
 
  seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was
  discussed recently.  the kernel is ours and number one in the
  world.  and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less
  just-work.  you can get the src =with= the pkg.
 
 
 How does debian get around all the make config options that we
 deal with?  Such as does such and such package pull in samba...  Or
 does debian just compile with every option more or less enabled?
 
 Chris
 

not sure about setting the options for a particular port, but i
think you can build it with various flags set when you pull down
the src.  at any rate, since most drives are HUGE these days,
enabling all/most options doesn't eat up that great a percent of
the disk.  and yeah, that's just my guess.

note that i've been using freebsd since '95 and linux since '05.




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Re: Unable to update dirmngr

2011-04-03 Thread Joseph Mingrone
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 15:41, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
 FreeBSD-8.2

 Several attempts to update the dirmngr port have failed.


Did you see the 20110328 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING for net/openldap24-client?
Try reconfiguring net/openldap24-client without the fetch option
selected, then reinstall the port  Next, uninstall then install
dirmngr dirmngr.  This worked for me.
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Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 03/04/2011 02:43, Polytropon wrote:

 I can only speak for myself regarding this suggestion, and
 I may also admit that I'm not fully happy with it. I would
 like to run my own mail server, but corrently I'm using
 the one for POP of the provider of my domain. I avoid
 SMTP as sending mail from my system (that runs a MTA)
 is considered NORMAL by me. Sadly, most others who suffer
 from spam do not think so, they reject messages coming from
 behind a dynamic IP, so I use my ISP's relay as smarthost
 for sending messages. This way, I can still use ANY mail
 client program I want - I get the messages using fetchmail
 and can then process them with any program, even in
 parallel. For sending, I can even | mail -s bla b...@foo.bar
 from the command line. It may not be optimal for all
 imaginable scenarios (e. g. reading mail from a different
 system, sending from a different location), but as I do
 not require them, it's no big deal.

Personally, I agree entirely with the idea of running your own mail
server -- so long as you have a sufficient level of competence, and I
think most of the people in this thread would be entirely capable.

Unfortunately that's not true of the majority of most ISP's clientele,
and bitter experience has led them to clamp down on SMTP-from-home in
various ways.  Some ISPs are friendly to more technically adept users --
mine is a case in point -- but these are few and far between.

Even so, you can still run your own servers.  You can get a minimally
spec'd machine (virtual or physical) at quite a reasonable price
nowadays.  Polytropon -- given your location, have you checked out
hetzner.de?  They've got some good deals, and they support using FreeBSD
too.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Unable to update dirmngr

2011-04-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 03/04/2011 07:24, Joseph Mingrone wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 15:41, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
 FreeBSD-8.2

 Several attempts to update the dirmngr port have failed.

 
 Did you see the 20110328 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING for 
 net/openldap24-client?
 Try reconfiguring net/openldap24-client without the fetch option
 selected, then reinstall the port  Next, uninstall then install
 dirmngr dirmngr.  This worked for me.

Even better, the latest update to the openldap24-client ports means that
it should all just work.  Update your ports and try again.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Port dependencies

2011-04-03 Thread Romain Garbage
2011/4/3 Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org:

        seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was
        discussed recently.  the kernel is ours and number one in the
        world.  and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less
        just-work.  you can get the src =with= the pkg.


 How does debian get around all the make config options that we deal with?
  Such as does such and such package pull in samba...  Or does debian just
 compile with every option more or less enabled?

Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists of GNU userland using the
GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's kernel, coupled with the regular
Debian package set. from http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/

So it seems they basically use their own packages and not the ports.

Romain
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Re: graphical representation of `du`

2011-04-03 Thread David Demelier

On 02/04/2011 19:30, Chris Rees wrote:

On 2 April 2011 18:22, Chris Reesutis...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 2 April 2011 18:07, Mike Jeaysmike.je...@rogers.com  wrote:

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:15:04 +0100
Chris Reesutis...@gmail.com  wrote:


du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' |
awk '{print($2 [$1]);}' | sed -e 's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,'



I confess to being impressed...



Yeah, but perhaps I should have used sed instead of the second awk;
fewer processes:

du -h | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' | sed
-e 's,^[^1-9]*\([^___CTRL-V+TAB__]*\)CTRL-V+TAB_*\(.*\)$,\2
\[\1\],;s,[^-][^/]*/,--,g;s,^,|,'

That does exactly the same --  where I've put CTRL-V+TAB__ you
have to type Ctrl-V, then a literal [::tab::] key; BSD sed doesn't do
\t.

Chris



Final version:

http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/graphical_du.sh

Maybe I should port it...



Thanks! This rocks! :-)


Chris
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Could not find /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk

2011-04-03 Thread Paul Chany

Hi,

I have just installed FreeBSD release 8.2 using
FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
and want to install sudo.

I did the following:

# whereis sudo
# cd /usr/ports/security/sudo
# make install clean

but get error messages:

 .. Could not find /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk

What can I do to solve this problem?

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Re: Could not find /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk

2011-04-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 03/04/2011 11:05, Paul Chany wrote:
 I have just installed FreeBSD release 8.2 using
 FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
 and want to install sudo.
 
 I did the following:
 
 # whereis sudo
 # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo
 # make install clean
 
 but get error messages:
 
  .. Could not find /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
 
 What can I do to solve this problem?

You don't have a good copy of /usr/ports installed.  Not sure what went
wrong there, since you've clearly got parts of it.

There are a number of ways of rectifying that, but I recommend just
running the following:

   # portsnap fetch extract

Then you should be able to build sudo and any other ports you want.

See:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html

for the full story on getting and maintaining a current copy of the
ports tree.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Port dependencies

2011-04-03 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Chris Telting
christopher...@telting.org wrote:


 How does debian get around all the make config options that we deal with?
  Such as does such and such package pull in samba...  Or does debian just
 compile with every option more or less enabled?


Yes, and no. One debian source package may create 1 or more binary
packages. For instance, Debian has at least two sudo packages (sudo
and sudo-ldap) -but only one source package. Take a look here:
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/sudo
(Also, Debian/Ubuntu also create -dev packages for headers and
development libraries, which FreeBSD ports does not (THANK GOD!))


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Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem

2011-04-03 Thread Paul Chany

Hi,

I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network problem.

Whenever I try to run command
# portsnap fetch extract

the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :(

The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN
that has a gateway/router.

What can I do to solve this problem?

--
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Paul

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Re: Port dependencies

2011-04-03 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 2-4-2011 19:03, Randal L. Schwartz schreef:

That's one of the first things I do with a fresh system that will be
only a server:

   echo WITHOUT_X11=yes  /etc/make.conf

And then *never* use packages.  Only ports


Are the quotes neccessary?
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console based sound control

2011-04-03 Thread Alokat

Hi,

I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss.

Does someone know one?

Regards,
alokat
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Re: Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem

2011-04-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 03/04/2011 14:45, Paul Chany wrote:
 I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network problem.
 
 Whenever I try to run command
 # portsnap fetch extract
 
 the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :(
 
 The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN
 that has a gateway/router.
 
 What can I do to solve this problem?

You need to diagnose why your fetch is bombing out.  Start by checking
over your own equipment and try to eliminate that as a source of
problems.  Make sure all your cabling is in good condition and that all
network plugs are correctly seated.  Check for packet errors:

   # netstat -i

Anything non-zero in the Ierrs or Oerrs columns is a cause for concern,
especially if the error counters are going up over time.  If your
gateway/router has the capability, check for the same sort of errors there.

Having eliminated your own kit as a source of problems, try looking for
network problems between the portsnap servers and you.  mtr(8) is good
for this purpose, but (of course) catch22: to install it, you'ld need a
working ports tree... mtr will show up packet loss on intermediate
network links, and various sorts of routing problems.  If these are
present, then you need to contact your ISP who should be able to sort
things out on your behalf.

Finally, one thing that can screw up portsnap is a poorly implemented
transparent HTTP proxy.  My advice: *don't use ISPs that force you to
use transparent proxying*.  However, if this is what you are lumbered
with, then there is a simple work-around: use csup(1) instead of
portsnap(8).  csup doesn't run over HTTP, so it can't be mangled by
broken proxies.

Now, if you need help with any of this, you can certainly post here, but
for best results you'll need to supply a lot more detail about exactly
what it was you did and exactly what the result was.  Cut'n'paste from
the terminal is good, or use script(1) to save a transcript of a
terminal session.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: console based sound control

2011-04-03 Thread Bill Tillman
I use audacity but that is a sound editor and may not be what you're looking 
for.




From: Alokat mail...@alokat.org
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 9:59:57 AM
Subject: console based sound control

Hi,

I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss.

Does someone know one?

Regards,
alokat
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Re: console based sound control

2011-04-03 Thread Bruce Cran

On 03/04/2011 14:59, Alokat wrote:


I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss.

Does someone know one?


Have you tried mixer(8)?
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mixerapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+8.2-RELEASEformat=html

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Re: console based sound control

2011-04-03 Thread Alokat

On 04/03/11 16:31, Bruce Cran wrote:

On 03/04/2011 14:59, Alokat wrote:


I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss.

Does someone know one?


Have you tried mixer(8)?
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mixerapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+8.2-RELEASEformat=html 




Thanks works fine ...
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Re: Port dependencies

2011-04-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 05:07:54PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org wrote:
  
   One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell.
 
  I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1]. Anyone
  who has spent hours struggling with rpm ... would never dare to
  even think of such terms when using the Ports Collection.
 
 Dependency purgatory?

I'd say it's something more like dependency real-world.  Purgatory
would be Ubuntu, where installing something with Synaptic doesn't require
you to track all the (recursive) dependencies yourself, but uninstalling
Evolution can break the whole system because of the insanely inclusive
dependency policies for packages.

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Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 03:43:59AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 
 For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail stored on the
 server, so you can access it by any IMAP capable client you want, and
 you could even install a web mail client (e. g. roundcube) to bind to
 that IMAP inter- face. In my opinion, this is way better than the
 POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing.

Why Roundcube?  From what I've seen, it doesn't handle quote indentation
and marking properly.

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DNS Administrator - Kenya

2011-04-03 Thread Kenneth Parit
Hello,

I look forward to becoming the DNS Administrator for my country Kenya.

It is impossible to download FreeBSD 8.2 from any of the mirror sites
due to disconnections.

Since I am contactable any day/time of the year and skilled in DNS
setup, kindly email me the latest stable FreeBSD to be installed on
Mac Pro (Model 1,1). The following specs:

- Dual-Core Intel Xeon
- Processor speed 2 GHz - 4 core (2 processors)
- L2 Cache (per processor) - 4MB
- Memory - 1GB
- Bus Speed - 1.33 GHz
- Boot ROM Version - MP11.005C.B04
- SMC Version - 1.7f6
- Serial Number - CK6350U0UPZ
- Intel - ESB2 AHCI
- Speed - 3.0 Gigabit
- Capacity - 150 GB
- DNS Server address 41.212.3.2, 212.165.130.9

Please keep in mind that FreeBSD is alittle overwhelming though my
passion in learning is equally high. Include all installation and
configuration information required.

Many thanks.

Kind regards

Kenneth Parit
+254 752 776675
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Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Bruce Cran

On 02/04/2011 21:54, David Chanters wrote:


You could have just sent yourself an email.  But yes, here you are.


I was going to suggest Gary should have used the freebsd-test mailing 
list but then I realised it's been broken since May last year.


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Re: Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem

2011-04-03 Thread Paul Chany

2011-04-03 16:19 keltezéssel, Matthew Seaman írta:

On 03/04/2011 14:45, Paul Chany wrote:
   

I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network problem.

Whenever I try to run command
# portsnap fetch extract

the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :(

The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN
that has a gateway/router.

What can I do to solve this problem?
 

You need to diagnose why your fetch is bombing out.  Start by checking
over your own equipment and try to eliminate that as a source of
problems.  Make sure all your cabling is in good condition and that all
network plugs are correctly seated.  Check for packet errors:

# netstat -i

   
All my cabling is in good condition and all network plugs are correctly 
seated.


I attached the output of '# netstat -i' command in netstat.log file.
One can see there are 26 Oerrs in the file.

Informations of my home LAN are:
domain: excito
gateway: 192.168.10.1
name server: 192.168.10.1
netmask: 255.255.255.0

Any advices will be appreciated!

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Re: Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem

2011-04-03 Thread Paul Chany

2011-04-03 18:35 keltezéssel, Paul Chany írta:

2011-04-03 16:19 keltezéssel, Matthew Seaman írta:

On 03/04/2011 14:45, Paul Chany wrote:
I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network 
problem.


Whenever I try to run command
# portsnap fetch extract

the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :(

The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN
that has a gateway/router.

What can I do to solve this problem?

You need to diagnose why your fetch is bombing out.  Start by checking
over your own equipment and try to eliminate that as a source of
problems.  Make sure all your cabling is in good condition and that all
network plugs are correctly seated.  Check for packet errors:

# netstat -i

All my cabling is in good condition and all network plugs are 
correctly seated.


I attached the output of '# netstat -i' command in netstat.log file.


Well, it seems that one can't to send mail with attached file onto list, 
right?

Here is the output of netstat -i:
NameMtu Network   Address  Ipkts Ierrs Idrop
Opkts Oerrs  Coll
plip0  1500 Link#1   0 0 0
0 0 0
lo0   16384 Link#2   0 0 0
0 0 0
lo0   16384 fe80:2::1 fe80:2::10 - -
0 - -
lo0   16384 localhost ::1  0 - -
0 - -
lo0   16384 your-net  localhost0 - -
0 - -
ue01500 Link#3  00:00:e8:00:11:f172968 0 0
4867126 0
ue01500 192.168.10.0  cspetoile.localdo72934 - -
48682 - -


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Re: DNS Administrator - Kenya

2011-04-03 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 06:57:27PM +0300, Kenneth Parit wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I look forward to becoming the DNS Administrator for my country Kenya.
 
 It is impossible to download FreeBSD 8.2 from any of the mirror sites
 due to disconnections.
 
 Since I am contactable any day/time of the year and skilled in DNS
 setup, kindly email me the latest stable FreeBSD to be installed on
 Mac Pro (Model 1,1). The following specs:

why don't you buy a cd set from the FreeBSD Mall and have it posted to you, 
then you will be supporting the project as well as putting those DNS skills to 
good use.
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Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Chris Rees
On 3 Apr 2011 17:32, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:

 On 02/04/2011 21:54, David Chanters wrote:

 You could have just sent yourself an email.  But yes, here you are.


 I was going to suggest Gary should have used the freebsd-test mailing list
but then I realised it's been broken since May last year.

Hah, ironic or what???

Chris.
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Re: Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem

2011-04-03 Thread Paul Chany

2011-04-03 16:19 keltezéssel, Matthew Seaman írta:

On 03/04/2011 14:45, Paul Chany wrote:
   

I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network problem.

Whenever I try to run command
# portsnap fetch extract

the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :(

The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN
that has a gateway/router.

What can I do to solve this problem?
 

You need to diagnose why your fetch is bombing out.  Start by checking
over your own equipment and try to eliminate that as a source of
problems.  Make sure all your cabling is in good condition and that all
network plugs are correctly seated.  Check for packet errors:

# netstat -i

Anything non-zero in the Ierrs or Oerrs columns is a cause for concern,
especially if the error counters are going up over time.  If your
gateway/router has the capability, check for the same sort of errors there.
   

On my gateway/router the output of 'netstat -i' command is_

Kernel Interface table
Iface   MTU Met   RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVRTX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP 
TX-OVR Flg
eth0   1500 0   7914770  0  0  0  3427615  0  0  
0 BRU
eth1   1500 0   3369182  0  0  0  5234370  0  0  
0 ABMRU
lo16436 0  1193  0  0  0 1193  0  0  
0 LRU


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Re: console based sound control

2011-04-03 Thread David Demelier

On 03/04/2011 15:59, Alokat wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss.

Does someone know one?

Regards,
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try them :

audio/aumix   Audio mixer for X11, terminal, or command line
audio/umixAdvanced tool for adjusting soundcard mixers, 
replacement for aumix


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Re: DNS Administrator - Kenya

2011-04-03 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 18:57, Kenneth Parit kennethpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I look forward to becoming the DNS Administrator for my country Kenya.

 It is impossible to download FreeBSD 8.2 from any of the mirror sites
 due to disconnections.

 Since I am contactable any day/time of the year and skilled in DNS
 setup, kindly email me the latest stable FreeBSD to be installed on
 Mac Pro (Model 1,1). The following specs:

 - Dual-Core Intel Xeon
 - Processor speed 2 GHz - 4 core (2 processors)
 - L2 Cache (per processor) - 4MB
 - Memory - 1GB
 - Bus Speed - 1.33 GHz
 - Boot ROM Version - MP11.005C.B04
 - SMC Version - 1.7f6
 - Serial Number - CK6350U0UPZ
 - Intel - ESB2 AHCI
 - Speed - 3.0 Gigabit
 - Capacity - 150 GB
 - DNS Server address 41.212.3.2, 212.165.130.9

 Please keep in mind that FreeBSD is alittle overwhelming though my passion
 in learning is equally high. Include all installation and configuration
 information required.

 Many thanks.

 Kind regards

 Kenneth Parit
 +254 752 776675



Hello Parit,

Please contact me on any of the two numbers appearing in my signature text.
You will get FreeBSD 8.2 DVD from me. You can find me at Wilson Airport,
If you find FreeBSD a little overwhelming, I am a phone call (or even an
e-mail away) if you need help.


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Re: Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem

2011-04-03 Thread Paul Chany

2011-04-03 16:19 keltezéssel, Matthew Seaman írta:

On 03/04/2011 14:45, Paul Chany wrote:
   

I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network problem.

Whenever I try to run command
# portsnap fetch extract

the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :(

The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN
that has a gateway/router.

What can I do to solve this problem?
 

You need to diagnose why your fetch is bombing out.  Start by checking
over your own equipment and try to eliminate that as a source of
problems.  Make sure all your cabling is in good condition and that all
network plugs are correctly seated.  Check for packet errors:

# netstat -i
   

Well, maybe this does not cause the solution but:

I change in /etc/portsnap.conf the server from:
SERVERNAME=portsnap.FreeBSD.org

to a portsnap mirror:

SERVERNAME=portsnap1.FreeBSD.org

and after that I can fetch ports.

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Kaffeine anomaly

2011-04-03 Thread Steven Friedrich
I like kaffeine's playlist, but how do the Artist, Album, and track fields get 
populated or edited?

I'm asking on FreeBSD because it may be via File Manager and extended 
attributes.
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Re[2]: graphical representation of `du`

2011-04-03 Thread Австин Ким
Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:01:24 +0200 письмо от David Demelier 
demelier.da...@gmail.com:

 On 02/04/2011 19:30, Chris Rees wrote:
  On 2 April 2011 18:22, Chris Reesutis...@gmail.com  wrote:
  On 2 April 2011 18:07, Mike Jeaysmike.je...@rogers.com  wrote:
  On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:15:04 +0100
  Chris Reesutis...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' |
  awk '{print($2 [$1]);}' | sed -e 's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,'
 
 
  I confess to being impressed...
 
 
  Yeah, but perhaps I should have used sed instead of the second awk;
  fewer processes:
 
  du -h | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' | sed
  -e 's,^[^1-9]*\([^___CTRL-V+TAB__]*\)CTRL-V+TAB_*\(.*\)$,\2
  \[\1\],;s,[^-][^/]*/,--,g;s,^,|,'
 
  That does exactly the same --  where I've put CTRL-V+TAB__ you
  have to type Ctrl-V, then a literal [::tab::] key; BSD sed doesn't do
  \t.
 
  Chris
 
 
  Final version:
 
  http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/graphical_du.sh
 
  Maybe I should port it...
 
 
 Thanks! This rocks! :-)
 
  Chris
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What a fun thread :)

Here's my two cents, written as an sh(1) function that you can tack on to the 
end of your .profile or .shrc:
(Caveats:  I'm writing this on a Mac OS X machine, not on a FreeBSD machine, at 
the moment, but hopefully this'll still work.  
Also, the following will mess up if you have directories whose names begin with 
|.)

# dg:  `du--graphical'
# Usage:  dg [dir ...]
# Based on script by Chris Rees
# 1459 Sunday, 3 April 2011

dg ( ) {
  du -h $@ |
awk '{FS=\t; print $2\t[$1]}' |
sort |
sed -e 's:[^/]*/:| :g' -e 's:\(^\(| \)*\)| \([^|].*\):\1+-\3:'
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Re: Re[2]: graphical representation of `du`

2011-04-03 Thread Chris Rees
On 3 April 2011 20:26, Австин Ким avs...@mail.ru wrote:
 Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:01:24 +0200 письмо от David Demelier 
 demelier.da...@gmail.com:

 On 02/04/2011 19:30, Chris Rees wrote:
  On 2 April 2011 18:22, Chris Reesutis...@gmail.com  wrote:
  On 2 April 2011 18:07, Mike Jeaysmike.je...@rogers.com  wrote:
  On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:15:04 +0100
  Chris Reesutis...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' |
  awk '{print($2 [$1]);}' | sed -e 's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,'
 
 
  I confess to being impressed...
 
 
  Yeah, but perhaps I should have used sed instead of the second awk;
  fewer processes:
 
  du -h | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--] }' | sed
  -e 's,^[^1-9]*\([^___CTRL-V+TAB__]*\)CTRL-V+TAB_*\(.*\)$,\2
  \[\1\],;s,[^-][^/]*/,--,g;s,^,|,'
 
  That does exactly the same --  where I've put CTRL-V+TAB__ you
  have to type Ctrl-V, then a literal [::tab::] key; BSD sed doesn't do
  \t.
 
  Chris
 
 
  Final version:
 
  http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/graphical_du.sh
 
  Maybe I should port it...
 

 Thanks! This rocks! :-)


 What a fun thread :)

 Here's my two cents, written as an sh(1) function that you can tack on to the 
 end of your .profile or .shrc:
 (Caveats:  I'm writing this on a Mac OS X machine, not on a FreeBSD machine, 
 at the moment, but hopefully this'll still work.
 Also, the following will mess up if you have directories whose names begin 
 with |.)

 # dg:  `du--graphical'
 # Usage:  dg [dir ...]
 # Based on script by Chris Rees
 # 1459 Sunday, 3 April 2011

 dg ( ) {
  du -h $@ |
    awk '{FS=\t; print $2\t[$1]}' |
    sort |
    sed -e 's:[^/]*/:| :g' -e 's:\(^\(| \)*\)| \([^|].*\):\1+-\3:'
  return
  }

I used the awk a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j=0;) print a[j--]  etc to
reverse the order, rather than alphabetise it because it's quicker:

$ du -h . | time sort /dev/null 2time
$ cat time
8.17 real 0.03 user 0.00 sys
$ du -h . | time awk '{a[i++]=$2} END { for (j=i-1; j=0;) print
a[j--] }' /dev/null 2time2
$ cat time2
7.77 real 0.14 user 0.00 sys

YMMV of course!

Chris
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Re: DNS Administrator - Kenya

2011-04-03 Thread krad
On 3 April 2011 18:10, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 18:57, Kenneth Parit kennethpa...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hello,
 
  I look forward to becoming the DNS Administrator for my country Kenya.
 
  It is impossible to download FreeBSD 8.2 from any of the mirror sites
  due to disconnections.
 
  Since I am contactable any day/time of the year and skilled in DNS
  setup, kindly email me the latest stable FreeBSD to be installed on
  Mac Pro (Model 1,1). The following specs:
 
  - Dual-Core Intel Xeon
  - Processor speed 2 GHz - 4 core (2 processors)
  - L2 Cache (per processor) - 4MB
  - Memory - 1GB
  - Bus Speed - 1.33 GHz
  - Boot ROM Version - MP11.005C.B04
  - SMC Version - 1.7f6
  - Serial Number - CK6350U0UPZ
  - Intel - ESB2 AHCI
  - Speed - 3.0 Gigabit
  - Capacity - 150 GB
  - DNS Server address 41.212.3.2, 212.165.130.9
 
  Please keep in mind that FreeBSD is alittle overwhelming though my
 passion
  in learning is equally high. Include all installation and configuration
  information required.
 
  Many thanks.
 
  Kind regards
 
  Kenneth Parit
  +254 752 776675
 


 Hello Parit,

 Please contact me on any of the two numbers appearing in my signature text.
 You will get FreeBSD 8.2 DVD from me. You can find me at Wilson Airport,
 If you find FreeBSD a little overwhelming, I am a phone call (or even an
 e-mail away) if you need help.


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 +254733744121/+254722743223
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Last Stacker patent expires May 14th

2011-04-03 Thread Brett Glass

Everyone:

The last of the Stac data compression patents, granted in 1991, 
expires on May 14th of this year. For a long time, all 
implementations of PPP for FreeBSD have had stubs for the Stac 
compression methods (in particular, MPPC; see, for example, 
/sys/netgraph/mppc.c) and there's now absolutely no reason for them 
to do so anymore. (Linux, in fact, has jumped the gun and has 
compression code available.) Shall we start coding?


--Brett Glass

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Re: Port dependencies

2011-04-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:35:08AM +0200, Romain Garbage wrote:
 2011/4/3 Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org:
 
         seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was
         discussed recently.  the kernel is ours and number one in the
         world.  and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less
         just-work.  you can get the src =with= the pkg.
 
 
  How does debian get around all the make config options that we deal with?
   Such as does such and such package pull in samba...  Or does debian just
  compile with every option more or less enabled?
 
 Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists of GNU userland using the
 GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's kernel, coupled with the regular
 Debian package set. from http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/
 
 So it seems they basically use their own packages and not the ports.
 
 Romain



Well, so then  _this_ is ho w thei r stuff works together.  It
is all from the deb packages.

gary

Ps:  i'm glad i quit porting our libc to  the gnu world back in
199[?]. 
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Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Al Plant

Bruce Cran wrote:

On 02/04/2011 21:54, David Chanters wrote:


You could have just sent yourself an email.  But yes, here you are.


I was going to suggest Gary should have used the freebsd-test mailing 
list but then I realised it's been broken since May last year.



##3

Aloha Bruce,

Recently I've sent tests to a couple of our subscribers that I know 
personally since the tests never came back. Thanks for the heads up as 
to why.


Any chance of getting it fixed?


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Re: console based sound control

2011-04-03 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:59:57 +0200, Alokat mail...@alokat.org wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss.

With sound control, you mean a mixer program, correct?
FreeBSD brings its own system program for that - see
man mixer for details. There's also a port that provides
a curses-based graphical mixer, the port brings both
a mixer for console and one for X, but sadly I can't
remember its name...


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Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 03:43:59AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
  
  For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail stored on the
  server, so you can access it by any IMAP capable client you want, and
  you could even install a web mail client (e. g. roundcube) to bind to
  that IMAP inter- face. In my opinion, this is way better than the
  POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing.
 
 Why Roundcube?  From what I've seen, it doesn't handle quote indentation
 and marking properly.

Why not? :-) From my limited testing, I found it suitable
for most of my I don't care customers who do not use
indentation or quoting properly. But the advantage of
IMAP (e. g. cyrus-imap, courier-imap) is that you can
use ANY client program, therefore any web-based mailer
you want. There are several others available, such as
sqwebmail or openwebmail with different features...

RoudCube was just the first solution that came to my
mind, I didn't want to say that it's the only solution
that does exist.


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Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 01:37:50AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
  On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 03:43:59AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
   
   For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail stored on
   the server, so you can access it by any IMAP capable client you
   want, and you could even install a web mail client (e. g.
   roundcube) to bind to that IMAP inter- face. In my opinion, this is
   way better than the POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing.
  
  Why Roundcube?  From what I've seen, it doesn't handle quote
  indentation and marking properly.
 
 Why not? :-)

Please tell me why you would want to inflict this kind of behavior on
others:

  
   For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail
stored on
   the server, so you can access it by any IMAP capable client you
   want, and you could even install a web mail client (e. g.
   roundcube) to bind to that IMAP inter- face. In my opinion,
this is
   way better than the POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing.

I've seen Roundcube do this crap.  It does *not* make me happy when
trying to skim through emails quickly -- and it can be bad when reading
more closely, too.

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Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:15:48 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 I've seen Roundcube do this crap.  It does *not* make me happy when
 trying to skim through emails quickly -- and it can be bad when reading
 more closely, too.

You're fully correct, it may not be the best solution for
power users. In this case, an IMAP-capable *local* client
program would be much better. With local caching, you can
also improve speed. And even programs with good keyboard
support are possible, even programs for use in text mode
do exist (a welcome solution for blind users).

Sadly, my dear customers wanted web mail, and they insisted
on RoundCube, so they got it. They're slow in thinkind and
reading, slower in typing, so the program speed is still
too fast for them. That's all the magic behind the story. :-)



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Re: am i back up....???

2011-04-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:33:53AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:15:48 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
 wrote:
  I've seen Roundcube do this crap.  It does *not* make me happy when
  trying to skim through emails quickly -- and it can be bad when
  reading more closely, too.
 
 You're fully correct, it may not be the best solution for power users.

My point is more that it's not the best solution for people whose emails
might ever be read by power users, or anyone else who, y'know, reads
email discussions.



 In this case, an IMAP-capable *local* client program would be much
 better. With local caching, you can also improve speed. And even
 programs with good keyboard support are possible, even programs for use
 in text mode do exist (a welcome solution for blind users).

. . . like Mutt.  Yeah, I know it.


 
 Sadly, my dear customers wanted web mail, and they insisted on
 RoundCube, so they got it. They're slow in thinkind and reading, slower
 in typing, so the program speed is still too fast for them. That's all
 the magic behind the story. :-)

Well . . . I guess if someone demands a crappy program, you either give
it to them or effectively convince them to get it from someone else.  I
just don't really think it's a great idea to bring up software that makes
communication difficult without being prompted for it when giving
suggestions for how people should do things.

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Re: DNS Administrator - Kenya

2011-04-03 Thread Nerius Landys
 alternatively try one of the torrents, it should survive disconnections far
 better than ftp etc

Yes, try the torrents.  I don't seed them for nothing.  This is
probably one of the best ways to get FreeBSD.

Here they are: http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/
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Re: nfs error: No route to host when starting apache ...

2011-04-03 Thread Rick Macklem
 On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Rick Macklem wrote:
 
  Since rpc.lockd and rpc.statd expect to be able to do IP broadcast
  (same goes for rpcbind), I suspect that might be a problem w.r.t.
  jails, although I know nothing about how jails work?
 
  Oh, and you can use the nolock mount option to avoid use of
  rpc.lockd and rpc.statd.
 
 based on the mount_nfs man page, as well as trying it just in case,
 this
 option no longer appears to be availalble in the 7.x nfs code ... :(
 
Oops, sorry. The option is called nolockd.

rick
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Re: tuning a system for a single user

2011-04-03 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa

On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Eitan Adler wrote:


When I look for tuning guides online, or reading tuning(7) I find a
lot of guides for tuning a system for multiple users or for specific
purposes (web servers, file servers, etc)

I am looking for specific tunables that might make the experience of
using FreeBSD better. I found the sysctl kern.maxusers but I'm unsure
how things affects things.  Can I reduce the amount of time, memory,
etc the kernel spends enforcing quota, scheduling, etc?

I don't have anything particular in mind - just want to get a general
set of tunables I might be interested in.

Since you have nothing particular in mind:
Did you have a look at
# man tuning
Might be a good starting point.

Greetings

Uli.




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Re: Port dependencies

2011-04-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Dick == Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl writes:

Dick Are the quotes neccessary?

No.

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Hitting kern.openfile ~= kern.maxfiles

2011-04-03 Thread Murray Taylor
Hi all,

I am getting sporadic Xorg / KDE lockups or 
process crashes. It seems to be related to hitting the 
kern.maxfiles value.
What I am seeing looks like a lot of unclosed file descriptors that are
clogging
the system badly. 

FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009

Xorg 7.5

KDE 3.5.10_7

Firefox 3.6.8,1

I use Kmail to access my dovecot server on another box.

Symptoms include messages like unable to cd into
/home/me/stuff/next_level
Or unable to access a shared lib. If I close konqerer or kamail or
firefox,
Then it sometimes comes good, other wise the best solution is to logout
of 
KDE / Xorg and (re)startx again.

At the command prompt, without Xorg / KDE running I usually see and 
kern.openfiles value of about 350, It will jump up to about 900 or more
on
the startx which also launches KDE, that up to arounf 1, 11000 with 
Kmail, konqerer and firefox running. It will sometime hover there for
days,
Then go up and cause freezes, nonstarts etc . Other times it will go up
Within a hour or so

I've looked at tuning(7) and currently kern.maxfiles is set to 24000.

I have hald and dbus running for xorg

Any udeas ?


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