Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:26:50 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
 
  3) the directories were moved at reboot by journal recovery,
  fsck or something else
 
 I think it's *extremely* unlikely that fsck was involved, because
 it just doesn't do things like that. 

The point is: fsck moving directories looks different. In
case inodes get de-connected (their reference entries on
level n-1 are gone, their data on level n is still present),
fsck will access the lost+found/ directory in the corresponding
partition's root directory (or create it, if not present) and
write _new_ directory entries with the inode as their name,
because that's the only naming information possible (as the
original names on n-1 aren't accessible anymore). So those
directories will have names like #177628676/ and they _can_
contain subtrees full of data, _including_ names from levels
n+1 and onward. Files also are named #4767667892 and their
names can _maybe_ identified from their content (the file
command is helpful, and if they are textfiles containing
a CVS or other revision control system data tag, it's possible
to find out what they've been in their previous life).

However, as it has been explained, fsck will _not_ do so
unless being _allowed explicitely_ to do that kind of
MODIFICATION to the file system. Flags like -yf can do
that, but they are _not_ the default. This is due to the
fact that _any_ critical modification of file systems
requires the _responsible administrator_ to give permission.



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portupgrade -cfa status while executing

2012-04-29 Thread dgmm
When running portupgrade -cfa, is there any way to find out where it's up to 
and/ot what is still in the queue to be re-built?


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Re: portupgrade -cfa status while executing

2012-04-29 Thread dgmm
On Sunday 29 April 2012, dgmm wrote:
 When running portupgrade -cfa, is there any way to find out where it's up
 to and/ot what is still in the queue to be re-built?

Oops.  It was obvious really.

ls /var/db/pkg -htU

...is good enough for my needs.

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Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:26:50 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:

  3) the directories were moved at reboot by journal recovery,
  fsck or something else

 I think it's *extremely* unlikely that fsck was involved, because
 it just doesn't do things like that.

 The point is: fsck moving directories looks different. In
 case inodes get de-connected (their reference entries on
 level n-1 are gone, their data on level n is still present),
 fsck will access the lost+found/ directory in the corresponding
 partition's root directory (or create it, if not present) and
 write _new_ directory entries with the inode as their name,
 because that's the only naming information possible (as the
 original names on n-1 aren't accessible anymore). So those
 directories will have names like #177628676/ and they _can_
 contain subtrees full of data, _including_ names from levels
 n+1 and onward. Files also are named #4767667892 and their
 names can _maybe_ identified from their content (the file
 command is helpful, and if they are textfiles containing
 a CVS or other revision control system data tag, it's possible
 to find out what they've been in their previous life).

 However, as it has been explained, fsck will _not_ do so
 unless being _allowed explicitely_ to do that kind of
 MODIFICATION to the file system. Flags like -yf can do
 that, but they are _not_ the default. This is due to the
 fact that _any_ critical modification of file systems
 requires the _responsible administrator_ to give permission.


OK, so fsck couldn't have done this. Besides fsck reported the fs as
clean so I have to conclude as others have commented that it must have
been a mv

I've been looking at the logs very carefully and trying to make sense
of this. There is a possibility that it could have been an attack
because we enabled ftp.proxy so that some clients could upload stuff
to their jails using ftp. So I was initially wrong in my assessment
because on this particular server we are running a service outside of
jails and it's this ftp.proxy that was suppose to be a temporary
solution but I guess we never got around to fixing this.

The ftp.proxy is started via inetd like so:
ftpstream tcp  nowait nobody /usr/local/sbin/ftp.proxy ftp.proxy -e

And there was a log of a couple of ftp connections the same day this
happened, the ONLY 3 messages before the reboot at about 6 pm and they
were NOT from any of our customers. Here are the log entries:

Apr 27 05:54:37 nune ftp.proxy[2726]: connected to client:
host-46-50-183-5.bbcustomer.zsttk.net, interface= 207.158.52.74:21
Apr 27 05:54:37 nune ftp.proxy[2726]: info: monitor mode: off, ccp: unset
Apr 27 05:54:38 nune ftp.proxy[2726]: -ERR: missing hostname
Apr 27 18:55:42 nune syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel

OK. So let's suppose ftp.proxy is the culprit is there any way the
could have done the mv by cracking ftp and ftp.proxy ??

I have of course disabled the ftp and I am now thinking that another
possibility or combination by also using the ftp proxy on the
http-proxy jail, that is, the jail that swallowed the other jails. The
http-proxy jails was also running apache ftp proxy.

So the question now becomes: could a break in ftp.proxy coupled with
Apache ftp proxy have caused the http-proxy jails to have swallowed
all the other jails into it's configuration directory??

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bsdpan-* ports, portmanager, and @comment ORIGIN:

2012-04-29 Thread Daniel Staal


I'm working on developing some stuff in Perl on my box, which works fairly 
well unless I go to update my system.  Anytime I do, I get the following 
error from portmanager:


`rCreateInstalledDbVerifyContentsFile 0.4.1_9 error: @comment ORIGIN: not 
found in /var/db/pkg/bsdpan-$MODULE_NAME`


Where $MODULE_NAME is one of the modules I've installed via CPAN, instead 
of using the FreeBSD ports system.  It will advise me to delete the package 
and then try manually reinstalling it - which works, *if* I install the 
Ports version.  Then running portmanager again will just pick the next 
module from the list, and go on, until I've uninstalled everything I 
installed via CPAN and installed it from Ports.


Which would be fine, if annoying, if everything actually was available in 
Ports.  But it's not: I'm using several modules that aren't available from 
Ports, and of course the modules I'm *developing* aren't available from 
Ports.


So, is there any way to *avoid* getting that error?  Some way where I can 
actually use the ports system to keep my stuff up to date?  (Even if it 
doesn't include the manually-installed software?)  Or do I just have to 
avoid anything Perl-related from the Ports system and install everything 
manually?  (Or - likely at that point - find a different OS to work on. 
It'd be less hassle to switch OSes than to try to make sure *nothing* using 
Perl is installed from the Ports.)


Daniel T. Staal

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Re: bsdpan-* ports, portmanager, and @comment ORIGIN:

2012-04-29 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:25:39 -0400
Daniel Staal articulated:

{SNIP}

Which would be fine, if annoying, if everything actually was available
in Ports.  But it's not: I'm using several modules that aren't
available from Ports, and of course the modules I'm *developing*
aren't available from Ports.

Which specific modules are not available? In the past I had to port a
few Perl modules into FreeBSD or else install them via CPAN as you have
done. If it is a simple module, I can show you how to do it or make a
port for it myself. Also, you should be aware that many modules are
available in the ports system, but not under the correct CPAN name.
Don't ask why; I did once and got so much BS that I just abandoned the
question.

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Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread jb
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:

 ... 
 And there was a log of a couple of ftp connections the same day this
 happened, the ONLY 3 messages before the reboot at about 6 pm and they
 were NOT from any of our customers. Here are the log entries:
 
 Apr 27 05:54:37 nune ftp.proxy[2726]: connected to client:
 host-46-50-183-5.bbcustomer.zsttk.net, interface= 207.158.52.74:21
 Apr 27 05:54:37 nune ftp.proxy[2726]: info: monitor mode: off, ccp: unset
 Apr 27 05:54:38 nune ftp.proxy[2726]: -ERR: missing hostname
 Apr 27 18:55:42 nune syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
 ...

What you should do right now is to get some recent general or security cd/dvd
with chkrootkit and rkhunter and run them from that external read-only media.  
I would also suggest that you look over config files of all packages involved.
jb


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Re: bsdpan-* ports, portmanager, and @comment ORIGIN:

2012-04-29 Thread Daniel Staal

--As of April 29, 2012 12:46:52 PM -0400, Jerry is alleged to have said:


Which would be fine, if annoying, if everything actually was available
in Ports.  But it's not: I'm using several modules that aren't
available from Ports, and of course the modules I'm *developing*
aren't available from Ports.


Which specific modules are not available? In the past I had to port a
few Perl modules into FreeBSD or else install them via CPAN as you have
done. If it is a simple module, I can show you how to do it or make a
port for it myself. Also, you should be aware that many modules are
available in the ports system, but not under the correct CPAN name.
Don't ask why; I did once and got so much BS that I just abandoned the
question.


--As for the rest, it is mine.

I'm still in early development, so the list is likely to grow as the 
project moves along.  The main one that's causing me trouble at the moment 
is CGI::Application::Plugin::CompressGzip, although I've noticed that 
several others of the CGI::Application set that look interesting and useful 
aren't in the ports system.  And, of course, there is the modules I'm 
developing for this project.


Making ports for each one feels like a band-aid though: It's a 'solution' 
that's just going to grow in complexity and scope the longer it goes on, 
and isn't really fixing anything other than the individual symptoms.  A 
real solution to me would either be a way to get @comment ORIGIN: to 
automatically populate in the bsdpan-* (CPAN) module install process, or a 
way to get portmanager to ignore modules installed via that process.


Daniel T. Staal

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Re: bsdpan-* ports, portmanager, and @comment ORIGIN:

2012-04-29 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:23:23 -0400
Daniel Staal articulated:

--As of April 29, 2012 12:46:52 PM -0400, Jerry is alleged to have
said:

 Which would be fine, if annoying, if everything actually was
 available in Ports.  But it's not: I'm using several modules that
 aren't available from Ports, and of course the modules I'm
 *developing* aren't available from Ports.

 Which specific modules are not available? In the past I had to port a
 few Perl modules into FreeBSD or else install them via CPAN as you
 have done. If it is a simple module, I can show you how to do it or
 make a port for it myself. Also, you should be aware that many
 modules are available in the ports system, but not under the correct
 CPAN name. Don't ask why; I did once and got so much BS that I just
 abandoned the question.

--As for the rest, it is mine.

I'm still in early development, so the list is likely to grow as the 
project moves along.  The main one that's causing me trouble at the
moment is CGI::Application::Plugin::CompressGzip, although I've
noticed that several others of the CGI::Application set that look
interesting and useful aren't in the ports system.  And, of course,
there is the modules I'm developing for this project.

Making ports for each one feels like a band-aid though: It's a
'solution' that's just going to grow in complexity and scope the
longer it goes on, and isn't really fixing anything other than the
individual symptoms.  A real solution to me would either be a way to
get @comment ORIGIN: to automatically populate in the bsdpan-*
(CPAN) module install process, or a way to get portmanager to ignore
modules installed via that process.

UNTESTED: In the /usr/local/etc/portmanager/pm-020.conf file, add the
specific port(s) you are trying to bypass. 

EXAMPLE:

IGNORE|www/tidy|

Again, this is untested, but I have used it for other ports that I
needed to skip.

I will have a look at the CPAN module:
CGI::Application::Plugin::CompressGzip later today or tomorrow and see
if I can make a port of it for you.

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Re: bsdpan-* ports, portmanager, and @comment ORIGIN:

2012-04-29 Thread Daniel Staal

--As of April 29, 2012 1:36:55 PM -0400, Jerry is alleged to have said:


UNTESTED: In the /usr/local/etc/portmanager/pm-020.conf file, add the
specific port(s) you are trying to bypass.

EXAMPLE:

IGNORE|www/tidy|

Again, this is untested, but I have used it for other ports that I
needed to skip.


--As for the rest, it is mine.

Yes, that works for *ports.*  Unfortunatly, it doesn't appear to work for 
non-ports that are installed but show up in the ports system.  (The 
bsdpan-* stuff.)  (Note: The error I quoted earlier is the very first thing 
that shows up when I run portmanager - it then goes on to collect installed 
port data, and notes but skips a couple that I had already put in to be 
ignored.  The error I'm having appears to occur before that step - and 
interferes with the proper collection of installed port data.)


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Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:15 PM, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:

 ...
 And there was a log of a couple of ftp connections the same day this
 happened, the ONLY 3 messages before the reboot at about 6 pm and they
 were NOT from any of our customers. Here are the log entries:

 Apr 27 05:54:37 nune ftp.proxy[2726]: connected to client:
 host-46-50-183-5.bbcustomer.zsttk.net, interface= 207.158.52.74:21
 Apr 27 05:54:37 nune ftp.proxy[2726]: info: monitor mode: off, ccp: unset
 Apr 27 05:54:38 nune ftp.proxy[2726]: -ERR: missing hostname
 Apr 27 18:55:42 nune syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
 ...

 What you should do right now is to get some recent general or security cd/dvd
 with chkrootkit and rkhunter and run them from that external read-only media.
 I would also suggest that you look over config files of all packages involved.
 jb


Thanks! Will do, but I don't know of any FreeBSD and/or derived
distros for security. Or can I use any Linux security distro? I
remember reading about some trouble of Linux chkrootkit on FBSD

Thanks,

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Re: bsdpan-* ports, portmanager, and @comment ORIGIN:

2012-04-29 Thread Daniel Staal

--As of April 29, 2012 1:36:55 PM -0400, Jerry is alleged to have said:


I will have a look at the CPAN module:
CGI::Application::Plugin::CompressGzip later today or tomorrow and see
if I can make a port of it for you.


--As for the rest, it is mine.

Sorry, I should have put this in the other email...

While I'd thank you for the consideration and effort, I'd consider this 
time poorly spent: CGI::Application::Plugin::CompressGzip is not the 
problem, it's just the current showstopper symptom.  The problem is the 
bsdpan system, which tries to integrate CPAN with the ports system.  It 
needs to either:


A.  Work.
or
B.  Get out of the way.

If you want to spend time on this, please rather than create a band-aid, 
see if you can find the root problem in wherever the bsdpan system is, and 
submit a patch upstream (to whomever is in charge of that) to fix it.  (Or 
remove it.)  It might take a bit longer, but instead of fixing it for *me* 
*this week,* you'd fix it for *everyone* for quite a bit longer.


I'm hoping someone on this list knows some of where that might be, or might 
even be the person to talk to in order to get it fixed.


Daniel T. Staal

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Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread jb
Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:

 ... 
  What you should do right now is to get some recent general or security 
  cd/dvd
  with chkrootkit and rkhunter and run them from that external read-only 
  media.
  I would also suggest that you look over config files of all packages 
  involved.
  jb
 
 
 Thanks! Will do, but I don't know of any FreeBSD and/or derived
 distros for security. Or can I use any Linux security distro? I
 remember reading about some trouble of Linux chkrootkit on FBSD

It looks like you have only one choice with prebuilt rkhunter package only:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/announce.html  

dvd1
This contains everything necessary to install the base FreeBSD operating system,
a collection of pre-built packages aimed at getting a graphical workstation up
and running. It also supports booting into a livefs based rescue mode. This
should be all you need if you can burn and use DVD-sized media.

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/packages/security/
rkhunter-1.3.8_1.tbz04/18/1218:56:00

With regard to verification of config  files - you said you got backups (those
pre-incident would be best) and you have the incident-time files, so do a diff
on dirs (in particular /etc and /usr/local/etc) 

jb


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Re: bsdpan-* ports, portmanager, and @comment ORIGIN:

2012-04-29 Thread RW
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:25:39 -0400
Daniel Staal wrote:


 So, is there any way to *avoid* getting that error?  Some way where I
 can actually use the ports system to keep my stuff up to date?  (Even
 if it doesn't include the manually-installed software?)
 

It think you should be able to prevent the package entries by setting 
DISABLE_BSDPAN in the environment.
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Re: bsdpan-* ports, portmanager, and @comment ORIGIN:

2012-04-29 Thread Daniel Staal

--As of April 29, 2012 8:11:19 PM +0100, RW is alleged to have said:


So, is there any way to *avoid* getting that error?  Some way where I
can actually use the ports system to keep my stuff up to date?  (Even
if it doesn't include the manually-installed software?)



It think you should be able to prevent the package entries by setting
DISABLE_BSDPAN in the environment.


--As for the rest, it is mine.

Semi-successful: It appears to work for `cpanp` installed modules, but not 
`cpan` installed modules.  And for some reason, p5-CPANPLUS won't install 
correctly (no errors, it just doesn't actually install the client), so 
`cpanp` is a `cpan` installed module...  (And yes, this is after 
reinstalling them.)


So it looks like it's getting me partway there, but not all the way.

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-29 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 08:01:13AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:36:13 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 06:00:51PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
   On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:33:29 -0700 David Brodbeck articulated:
   
   Again, this is one of the reasons credit scoring is becoming so
   popular -- it's an almost automatic way to narrow down the pile.
   Another method in common use right now is to throw out applications
   from anyone who's currently unemployed, and only look at ones who
   already have a position and are looking to change jobs.
   
   I have been told by several people in HR that the trend to give
   preference to those all ready working as opposed to the unemployed is
   based on the philosophy that if no one else will hire them, then why
   should we. While we could argue whether that logic is flawed, it is
   never-the-less presently in use. However, it doesn't really pertain to
   entry level openings. With the glut of individuals entering the job
   market, for an applicant to not be proficient in the skills being
   advertised for by the prospective employer is just a waste of time. If
   the employer is looking for skill A and B, crying to him/her that
   you have skill C is just a waste of both your times.
  
  It *does* pertain to entry level positions, because (from what I have
  seen) most entry level positions come with an experience requirement of
  at least two years.
 
 But then this would invalidate ENTRY level. How exactly is
 an applicant supposed to get a job from that entry level pool
 when he doesn't have previous experience because he simply wants
 to ENTER that field of profession?

Yes -- that is *exactly* the question that comes up.  These are not jobs
that are entry level in terms of requirements, even if they are entry
level in terms of pay and actual skill required to do the job to a
reasonable level of competence.  Consider examples like first-level call
center jobs that require a college degree and a couple years expericence,
as pretty much the canonical example.

In some cases, these jobs may simple be advertised this way so hiring
managers can use the lack of qualified applicants to help justify
offshoring jobs.  In other cases, this is just an example of how HR best
practices have gotten ridiculously out of control, where everybody tries
to copy what everyone else is doing because if everyone else is doing it
you can't get in trouble for doing the same thing.  The end result, of
course, is that you only get people with experience who nobody else wants
to hire or people who lie well -- but on paper it looks like you went to
great lengths to hire the right person, and thus you (hopefully) can't
be blamed for hiring turkeys.


 
  You speak as though you think they're correctly identifying the skills
  they actually need from their employees.  A big part of this entire
  discussion has been about the fact that many responsible parties in the
  hiring process are utterly without capacity for correctly identifying the
  skills they actually need to optimally fill the open positions.
 
 Correct, at least that's my experience. To give you _few_ examples
 which are more the norm than exceptions:
 
 good MS standart knowledge
 (Yavoll mein Hare Heiny Standart-Leader von Sowercrowd!)
 
 programming knowledge in established programming languages, e. g. OS2
 (cc hello.os2, and it's OS/2 with slash)
 
 modern Microsoft operating systems (Windows 98 and XP)
 (yes, _very_ modern and current; hey, it's more than 10 years old!)
 
 extended basic knowledge
 (so what, basic or extended?)
 
 autonomous team-oriented working
 (maybe as a one man team!)
 
 It's funny when you encounter job offers by recruiters and HR
 services who _fail_ to properly spell our native language, but
 think they are in a positition to place _you_ (as a professional)
 into a good job! Okay, it's NOT funny. It's also not funny if you
 have to explain to such a senior consultant permanent placement
 how to open a PDF file containing your application documents, and
 it's even worse when they try to trick you to do their work, e. g.
 enter all your data again into their (!) HR database.
 
 As I said, the problem of the unclear expression _what_ skills
 actually are needed can make it hard to properly apply for a job.
 This problem isn't only present for written application, it's also
 there if you get invited to an interview and the guy across the
 table is simply asking the wrong questions, or unable to understand
 your answers.

I think a far worse problem than the failure to understand what skills
are needed is the failure to understand things like

1. what skills can be learned easily in a very short period of time so
that focus on other necessary skills already existing can be employed in
selecting candidates

2. why disqualifying candidates for stupidities that have nothing to do
with their skills and other actually suitable qualities for the job is
counterproductive

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First character typed lost

2012-04-29 Thread Warren Block
On a Gateway ML6732 notebook, FreeBSD 9-stable is working great.  Video 
works (i915), sound works, the only thing that isn't quite right is that 
the first character typed after the FreeBSD kernel loads is lost. After 
that, it works normally.  This makes entering a passphrase more 
challenging.


Any suggestions on what to check?  ACPI? atkbd hints?

Currently it's running 9-stable, but did the same thing with 8.x.  Of 
course it works normally for the BIOS and boot menu, FreeBSD loader 
menu, Windows, and Xubuntu.


The system is not terribly old, a Pentium Dual T2390, and this is with a 
GENERIC kernel.


sysctl shows

  dev.atkbdc.0.%desc: Keyboard controller (i8042)
  dev.atkbdc.0.%driver: atkbdc
  dev.atkbdc.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.PS2K
  dev.atkbdc.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=PNP0303 _UID=0
  dev.atkbdc.0.%parent: acpi0
  dev.atkbd.0.%desc: AT Keyboard
  dev.atkbd.0.%driver: atkbd
  dev.atkbd.0.%parent: atkbdc0

dmesg shows

  atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
  atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
  kbd0 at atkbd0
  atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]

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Re: First character typed lost

2012-04-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 On a Gateway ML6732 notebook, FreeBSD 9-stable is working great.  Video
 works (i915), sound works, the only thing that isn't quite right is that
 the first character typed after the FreeBSD kernel loads is lost. After
 that, it works normally.  This makes entering a passphrase more challenging.

 Any suggestions on what to check?  ACPI? atkbd hints?

 Currently it's running 9-stable, but did the same thing with 8.x.  Of
 course it works normally for the BIOS and boot menu, FreeBSD loader menu,
 Windows, and Xubuntu.

 The system is not terribly old, a Pentium Dual T2390, and this is with a
 GENERIC kernel.

 sysctl shows

  dev.atkbdc.0.%desc: Keyboard controller (i8042)
  dev.atkbdc.0.%driver: atkbdc
  dev.atkbdc.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.PS2K
  dev.atkbdc.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=PNP0303 _UID=0
  dev.atkbdc.0.%parent: acpi0
  dev.atkbd.0.%desc: AT Keyboard
  dev.atkbd.0.%driver: atkbd
  dev.atkbd.0.%parent: atkbdc0

 dmesg shows

  atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
  atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
  kbd0 at atkbd0
  atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]


Sometimes ps/2 devices are actually USB ones so I might try fiddling with
BIOS USB settings eg legacy mode to see that makes a difference.  Maybe try
suggesting a different IRQ in device.hints?  Just fishing.

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Re: First character typed lost

2012-04-29 Thread Lars Eighner

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Warren Block wrote:

On a Gateway ML6732 notebook, FreeBSD 9-stable is working great.  Video works 
(i915), sound works, the only thing that isn't quite right is that the first 
character typed after the FreeBSD kernel loads is lost. After that, it works 
normally.  This makes entering a passphrase more challenging.


These are total shots in the dark:

1. It is entirely normal (and generally thought desirable) for the
screensaver to swallow the first character when it is running -- see if this
is worth further investigation by changing screensavers or disabling it
altogether.

2. check /etc/issue to see if there is a trailing ANSI sequence that might
eat a character.

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http://www.larseighner.com/index.html
8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266

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Re: First character typed lost

2012-04-29 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Adam Vande More wrote:



On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
  On a Gateway ML6732 notebook, FreeBSD 9-stable is working great.  Video 
works (i915), sound works, the only thing that isn't quite right is that the 
first character typed
  after the FreeBSD kernel loads is lost. After that, it works normally.  
This makes entering a passphrase more challenging.

...


Sometimes ps/2 devices are actually USB ones so I might try fiddling with BIOS 
USB settings eg legacy mode to see that makes a difference.  Maybe try 
suggesting a different IRQ in
device.hints?  Just fishing.


It does have a Legacy USB Support setting, and turning that off... fixed 
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Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Monday 30 April 2012 02:02:41 jb wrote:
 Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:
 
  ... 
   What you should do right now is to get some recent general or security 
   cd/dvd
   with chkrootkit and rkhunter and run them from that external read-only 
   media.
   I would also suggest that you look over config files of all packages 
   involved.
   jb
  
  
  Thanks! Will do, but I don't know of any FreeBSD and/or derived
  distros for security. Or can I use any Linux security distro? I
  remember reading about some trouble of Linux chkrootkit on FBSD
 
 It looks like you have only one choice with prebuilt rkhunter package only:
 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/announce.html  
 
 dvd1
 This contains everything necessary to install the base FreeBSD operating 
 system,
 a collection of pre-built packages aimed at getting a graphical workstation up
 and running. It also supports booting into a livefs based rescue mode. This
 should be all you need if you can burn and use DVD-sized media.
 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/packages/security/
 rkhunter-1.3.8_1.tbz  04/18/1218:56:00
 
 With regard to verification of config  files - you said you got backups (those
 pre-incident would be best) and you have the incident-time files, so do a diff
 on dirs (in particular /etc and /usr/local/etc) 
 
I would burn the backup of these files to an optical disk, start the system and 
do a diff as the first step. The system can be started from an USB drive (take 
the 9.0 installation image) or DVD.

Of course, rkhunter can be started in the second step.

Erich
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Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-29 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Erich Dollansky
er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Monday 30 April 2012 02:02:41 jb wrote:
 Alejandro Imass ait at p2ee.org writes:

  ...
   What you should do right now is to get some recent general or security 
   cd/dvd
   with chkrootkit and rkhunter and run them from that external read-only 
   media.
   I would also suggest that you look over config files of all packages
   involved.
   jb
  
 
  Thanks! Will do, but I don't know of any FreeBSD and/or derived
  distros for security. Or can I use any Linux security distro? I
  remember reading about some trouble of Linux chkrootkit on FBSD

 It looks like you have only one choice with prebuilt rkhunter package only:
 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/announce.html

 dvd1
 This contains everything necessary to install the base FreeBSD operating 
 system,
 a collection of pre-built packages aimed at getting a graphical workstation 
 up
 and running. It also supports booting into a livefs based rescue mode. This
 should be all you need if you can burn and use DVD-sized media.

 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/packages/security/
 rkhunter-1.3.8_1.tbz          04/18/12        18:56:00

 With regard to verification of config  files - you said you got backups 
 (those
 pre-incident would be best) and you have the incident-time files, so do a 
 diff
 on dirs (in particular /etc and /usr/local/etc)

 I would burn the backup of these files to an optical disk, start the system 
 and do a diff as the first step. The system can be started from an USB drive 
 (take the 9.0 installation image) or DVD.

 Of course, rkhunter can be started in the second step.

ran both, found nothing

Back to theory on how the http-proxy jail 'swallowed' all the other
jails including the basejail. I noticed that jail had a not so old bug
in 2010 FBSD 8.0 which

quote
The jail(8) utility does not change the current working directory while
imprisoning.  The current working directory can be accessed by its
descendants.
/quote

Reference: http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-10:04.jail.asc

Given that EzJail uses a single basejail and links/mounts stuff in the
child jails it would seem plausible (regression?) that somehow any
jail could access other jails' files, or that _maybe_ in an event of
crash the nullsfs mounts confuse the system somehow when fsck restores
or the journal is recovered.

Whatever the cause, it actually happened and I have already ruled out
just about anything. It doesn't seem to have been an attack, it surely
wasn't me, and EzJail author agrees it was not the EzJail scripts. So
maybe nullfs and journaling, or crash + nullfs + journaling, could
cause something like this to happen? Maybe journal has some confusion
on restoring the nullfs view of the directories or something after bad
crash like this one??
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firefox is marked as broken?

2012-04-29 Thread Jong-Beom Kim
I have installed FreeBSD 9.0 last night and so far, so good except firefox
installation.

it simply doesn't build with this message.

# make install clean
===  firefox-12.0,1 is marked as broken: does not build.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.

is it just me or is firefox really broken currently?

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Re: First character typed lost

2012-04-29 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Lars Eighner wrote:


On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Warren Block wrote:

On a Gateway ML6732 notebook, FreeBSD 9-stable is working great.  Video 
works (i915), sound works, the only thing that isn't quite right is that 
the first character typed after the FreeBSD kernel loads is lost. After 
that, it works normally.  This makes entering a passphrase more 
challenging.


These are total shots in the dark:

1. It is entirely normal (and generally thought desirable) for the
screensaver to swallow the first character when it is running -- see if this
is worth further investigation by changing screensavers or disabling it
altogether.

2. check /etc/issue to see if there is a trailing ANSI sequence that might
eat a character.


Interesting suggestions.  Turning off legacy USB support in the BIOS as 
suggested by Adam seems to have fixed it.

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firefox is marked as broken?

2012-04-29 Thread Robert Huff

Jong-Beom Kim writes:

  I have installed FreeBSD 9.0 last night and so far, so good except firefox
  installation.
  
  it simply doesn't build with this message.
  
  # make install clean
  ===  firefox-12.0,1 is marked as broken: does not build.
  *** Error code 1
  
  Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
  
  is it just me or is firefox really broken currently?

Works for me on

FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Mar 11 08:20:02 EDT 2012  amd64 

I would have built it within a day or two of the port being
released.

Respectfully,


Robert Huff

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Re: firefox is marked as broken?

2012-04-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar

*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.

is it just me or is firefox really broken currently?

or maybe it finally got market as such ;)

As well as many other browsers.

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Re: firefox is marked as broken?

2012-04-29 Thread Beat Gätzi
On Apr 30, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Jong-Beom Kim wrote:
 I have installed FreeBSD 9.0 last night and so far, so good except firefox
 installation.
 
 it simply doesn't build with this message.
 
 # make install clean
 ===  firefox-12.0,1 is marked as broken: does not build.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
 
 is it just me or is firefox really broken currently?

The PGO option is currently marked broken. Please run make config and
deselect PGO.

HTH,
Beat
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