Re: automating menu options in ports (and other ports build questions)

2012-05-25 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 24 May 2012 23:55:17 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
  5. It looks like the options which show up using sysinstall are from the
  OPTIONS variable in the Makefile.
 
  Excuse me, where exactly do you see compile-time options in the
  sysinstall program? I know it can select and install packages,
  but PORTS?
 
 What I mean is the OPTIONS variable is what shows up when
make config
 is done (now that I understand it a little better)

The menu functionality is provided by the ncurses-based dialog
program and defined in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk line 5953 +/-
(version 1.692 here).



 Unfortunately, lots-o-computers but only one screen :-(

I know this situation very well. One just _cannot_ be familiar
with all the many option names (that sometimes just sound like
logorrhea) and that make _no_ sense unless you know what they
mean. There are names where the meaning can be concluded, and
so the question Do I need it? can be answered; sadly that's
not always the case, especially when dealing with modern
software and their partially ridiculous naming habits.



  Or is this a documentation project in the offing?
 
  I would welcome a kind of text file that lists all the strange
  names with a short description of what they are and what you
  need them for, being more informative than the short one liners
  in the options dialog.
 
 Can someone point me at the code that puts up the menu?

See /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk as mentioned above.

The dialog program also offers some examples which belong
to the base system, see /usr/share/examples/dialog, and of
course see man dialog.



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Re: automating menu options in ports (and other ports build questions)

2012-05-25 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 24 May 2012 23:56:02 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 Is there a way to find out what options a package is built with?

I don't think so. A package is just an archive containing
truncated subtrees such as bin/, lib/ or man/ of the
compiled programs, ready for install into the /usr/local
directory. It also contains data files such as +COMMENT,
+CONTENTS, +DESC and +MTREE_DIRS.

However, if you have installed from a port, the options
you have set will be stored in /var/db/ports/name/options.
I haven't tested yet if a package that _has_ adjustable
options (which obviously have already been adjusted) would
create such a directory and file, but I assume it does not,
as it seems obvious that those are handled by the port
building mechanisms (which aren't in use when you pkg_add
something).



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FreeBSD and Diablo III (partial solved)

2012-05-25 Thread David Naylor
Hi All,

The following instructions allows one to play Diablo III under either i386 or 
amd64 FreeBSD 9.  Unfortunately actually installing the game does not work due 
to problems with Agent.exe however once installed (from a Windows instance) 
the game runs well, with 48 hours reported as error free.  

Special thanks to alphachi for solving and testing the below procedure.  

Instructions:
 1) Install the wine-fbsd64-diablo3[1] package from mediafire[2] (tested using 
1.5.4).  
 2) Choose a directory to have the diablo 3 wine prefix (`export 
DIABLO=$HOME/diablo3` or `setenv DIABLO $HOME/diablo3`)
 3) Install VC++ 2008 Redistribution (`env WINEPREFIX=$DIABLO sh winetricks 
vcrun2008`)[3]
 4) Copy an INSTALLED version of diablo 3 to the wine prefix (hint: use 
VirtualBox to install the game)
 5) Start the game with `env WINEPREFIX=$DIABLO wine Diablo\ III.exe -launch` 
[4]

Regards,

[1]
 MD5 (wine-1.4.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-diablo3-1.4,1.tbz) = 
9d327d7cc384cce7317e7c70245b9427
 MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-diablo3-1.5.4,1.txz) = 
250d424f14fa9670396addaaaed8c43e
[2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64
[3] http://winetricks.org/winetricks
[4] Below is a sample .desktop file for launching diablo 3.  Please expand 
$DIABLO and fix the Path entry
file name=Diablo III.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Comment=Please replace $DIABLO with a full expanded path and fix Path entry
Exec=env WINEPREFIX=$DIABLO wine Diablo III.exe -launch
Name=Diablo III
Path=$DIABLO/drive_c/path/to/diablo
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=false
TerminalOptions=
Type=Application
/file


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Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

I'm searching for a cloud software :-)

More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )

Anyone could help ?
Thank you

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:

 Hello

 I'm searching for a cloud software :-)

 More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
 a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
 from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
 ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )

 Anyone could help ?
 Thank you



I do NOT know whether the following pages may be useful for you or not :

http://www.xtreemos.org/
http://www.xtreemfs.org/
http://code.google.com/p/xtreemfs/
http://code.google.com/p/xtreemfs/
http://xtreemos-user.wiki.irisa.fr/tiki-index.php?page=Installation+tutorial
https://gforge.inria.fr/scm/?group_id=411
https://gforge.inria.fr/scm/viewvc.php/?root=xtreemos


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_software
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cloud_computing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cloud_platforms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_software_for_cloud_computing


Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Hello
 
 I'm searching for a cloud software :-)
 
 More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
 a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
 from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
 ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )

Cloud-ware for any  all devices  protocols inc. proprietary ? 

- In London (Soho, tourist trap area) one used to be able buy cans labelled
  Scotch Mist, nice tartan painting outside, the can was light.
- Computer salesmen have offered vapourware for decades, (then
  rushed back to their engineers  said: We've sold it, now design it!)
- A recent advert bore the slogan Would you trust your data to a cloud ?
  with a small cloud in a dry desert.

 Anyone could help ?
 Thank you

I suggest first specify, then implement. As that's work,
here's a global index of BSD consultants wvailable to work:
http://berklix.com/consultants/

Cheers,
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 25/05/2012 10:11, Frank Bonnet wrote:
 a kind of private cloud

Uh... Isn't 'private' essentially the antithesis of 'cloud'?  Unless you
have quite a lot of hardware to play with.

I believe what you are looking for is what we old codgers would describe
as a Web Site...

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Dennis Glatting
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 10:11 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Hello
 
 I'm searching for a cloud software :-)
 
 More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
 a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
 from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
 ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )
 

There is a couple of cheap ways of doing this. First, download the free
version of VMWare ESXi and partition your hardware. Another is to
install VirtualBox, a Type-2 HyperVisor.

Depending on what you consider a cloud, take a look at Hadoop. Hadoop
isn't partitioning hardware but Hadoop and the applications that run on
top of Hadoop can give you an interesting view of these technologies and
how they can be applied to cloudy data.

As for how to get data into/out-of the cloud, let me know how that
works. :)




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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Frank Bonnet

On 05/25/2012 12:10 PM, Dennis Glatting wrote:

On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 10:11 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:

Hello

I'm searching for a cloud software :-)

More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )


There is a couple of cheap ways of doing this. First, download the free
version of VMWare ESXi and partition your hardware. Another is to
install VirtualBox, a Type-2 HyperVisor.

Depending on what you consider a cloud, take a look at Hadoop. Hadoop
isn't partitioning hardware but Hadoop and the applications that run on
top of Hadoop can give you an interesting view of these technologies and
how they can be applied to cloudy data.

As for how to get data into/out-of the cloud, let me know how that
works. :)






Hi Dennis

Thank you for that info !
gonna investigate the hadoop way.


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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Frank Staals
Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr writes:

 Hello

 I'm searching for a cloud software :-)

 More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
 a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
 from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
 ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )

 Anyone could help ?
 Thank you

As others have also already hinted at, I think you should be more
specific about what you want your ``cloud software'' to do. Without that
you will get K answers suggesting some software system that try to solve
K completely different problems. My part in those K different answers:
maybe OwnCloud[1] does something what you would want? 

Good luck  Regards, 

[1] http://owncloud.org/

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Re: Extend Error Handling

2012-05-25 Thread Venkat Duvvuru
Folks - Any inputs on this?

for reference
http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/powerpc/eeh-pci-error-recovery.txt

/Venkat

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Venkat Duvvuru
venkatduvvuru...@gmail.comwrote:

 Linux has a feature called EEH (extended error handling) which is
 introduced to handle PCI errors gracefully.
 Is EEH supported in freebsd as well?
 I looked into the documentation of freebsd and briefly looked into the
 freebsd source tree as well but couldn't find anything like that.
 Please confirm.

 /Venkat

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 25 May 2012 12:59:19 +0200
Frank Staals articulated:

As others have also already hinted at, I think you should be more
specific about what you want your ``cloud software'' to do. Without
that you will get K answers suggesting some software system that try
to solve K completely different problems. My part in those K different
answers: maybe OwnCloud[1] does something what you would want? 

I fully concur with Matthew's assessment, Isn't 'private' essentially
the antithesis of 'cloud'? I would never invest a dime or a single bit
of data to a cloud venture. However, that is just my 2¢ on the matter.
In any case, good luck with your venture.

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar


I'm searching for a cloud software :-)


look at clouds.



More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )


if you first define what cloud is - then maybe i can help you.

Now cloud is just marketdroid term meaning 100 different things, often 
contradictory.


If for you cloud computing means using remote services, then all FreeBSD 
available software are cloud software - just log remotely to FreeBSD 
server, by text (telnet,ssh) or graphics (X11, vnc) which is what i 
actually do most of the time

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i think most people talking about cloud solutions have really CLOUDY 
idea of what they want.


Far too much marketing, far too little (if any) description of the needs.

On Fri, 25 May 2012, Matthew Seaman wrote:


On 25/05/2012 10:11, Frank Bonnet wrote:

a kind of private cloud


Uh... Isn't 'private' essentially the antithesis of 'cloud'?  Unless you
have quite a lot of hardware to play with.

I believe what you are looking for is what we old codgers would describe
as a Web Site...

Cheers,

Matthew

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question about milter software

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Does anyone know milter software (or maybe anything else) to add to 
sendmail that can rewrite outgoing mail and add HTML footer automatically?


Please do not tell me about how stupid HTML mail is at all - i know it, it 
is not my idea.


thanks
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar

the antithesis of 'cloud'? I would never invest a dime or a single bit
of data to a cloud venture.


how one can invest of something that isn't even defined clearly.
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Arthur Chance

On 05/25/12 14:16, Wojciech Puchar wrote:


I'm searching for a cloud software :-)


look at clouds.



More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate their personnal data
from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones and tablets ... etc )


if you first define what cloud is - then maybe i can help you.

Now cloud is just marketdroid term meaning 100 different things, often
contradictory.


With apologies to Joni Mitchell:

I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
From up and down, and still somehow,
It's cloud illusions I recall,
I really don't know clouds, at all.

Well, someone had to say it. :-) It summarises the marketing hype perfectly.

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar


With apologies to Joni Mitchell:

I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
From up and down, and still somehow,
It's cloud illusions I recall,
I really don't know clouds, at all.

Well, someone had to say it. :-) It summarises the marketing hype perfectly.


fashion is quite often deciding factor not just in clothes. Actually it 
works just the same in IT. What is funny with cloud computing (new 
fashion trend) is that isn't defined at all. most probably marketing 
people found out that it is not needed to define anything to make people 
buyANYTHING.

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Frank Bonnet

On 05/25/2012 04:04 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:


With apologies to Joni Mitchell:

I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
From up and down, and still somehow,
It's cloud illusions I recall,
I really don't know clouds, at all.

Well, someone had to say it. :-) It summarises the marketing hype 
perfectly.


fashion is quite often deciding factor not just in clothes. Actually 
it works just the same in IT. What is funny with cloud computing 
(new fashion trend) is that isn't defined at all. most probably 
marketing people found out that it is not needed to define anything to 
make people buyANYTHING. 


Well ... My goal was NOT to start a flame war around the cloud term ...

next time I'll choose better words :-)


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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Frank,

Am 2012-05-25 10:11:21, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
 Hello
 
 I'm searching for a cloud software :-)

LOL  :-P  :-D

 More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
 a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
 from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
 ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )

I do storage and database services since 1999  and  run  currently  more
then 400 servers in 6 locations.

When some years ago peoples startinfg talking about cloud computing  I
was puzzeling arround what they mean with it...

Realy, - I understood nothing.

What they have defined as Cloud Computing I have used already for more
then 10 years.

Or do they mean with cloud computing adding new interfaces to  a  huge
storage server with an office webinterface ?

What I am adding to my service is an access for smartphones and tablets.

Something like image galleries (private, groups, public, shared,  ACLs),
Video Interface (works  like  YouTube  or  even  private  streaming)  is
already since several years...

Yeah, what I am missing is a Web-Version of OpenOffice  or  LibreOffice,
which let users read, create and edit documents...  But there is already
work in progress.

So, what does Cloud Computing realy mean?

Something like a clustered hyperspeedy calculator?  Yes you can  get  if
from me.  The system use unused capacities of my 400 servers plus a self
made BladeServer with 256 CPUs (currently only 64 inserted because they
are quiet expensive)

 Anyone could help ?

Not realy  ;-)  becaue it depends, what you undertsnd under

Cloud Systems / Cloud Computing / Cloud Networking 

 Thank you

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Arthur Chance

On 05/25/12 15:12, Frank Bonnet wrote:

On 05/25/2012 04:04 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:


With apologies to Joni Mitchell:

I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
From up and down, and still somehow,
It's cloud illusions I recall,
I really don't know clouds, at all.

Well, someone had to say it. :-) It summarises the marketing hype
perfectly.


fashion is quite often deciding factor not just in clothes. Actually
it works just the same in IT. What is funny with cloud computing
(new fashion trend) is that isn't defined at all. most probably
marketing people found out that it is not needed to define anything to
make people buyANYTHING.


Well ... My goal was NOT to start a flame war around the cloud term ...


I wasn't flaming, just remarking on the fact that the meaning of cloud 
depends on the company that is trying to sell you cloud related products.



next time I'll choose better words :-)


A bit more specific would be useful.


we would like to offer to our students and professors
a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
from almost anywhere and with almost any devices


could be taken to mean anything from WebDAV/Dropbox functionality to 
Hadoop type processing or data mining. What sort of and how much 
manipulation is needed? If you answer that it would let us help you more.

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Frank Bonnet

On 05/25/2012 04:49 PM, Arthur Chance wrote:

On 05/25/12 15:12, Frank Bonnet wrote:

On 05/25/2012 04:04 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:


With apologies to Joni Mitchell:

I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
From up and down, and still somehow,
It's cloud illusions I recall,
I really don't know clouds, at all.

Well, someone had to say it. :-) It summarises the marketing hype
perfectly.


fashion is quite often deciding factor not just in clothes. Actually
it works just the same in IT. What is funny with cloud computing
(new fashion trend) is that isn't defined at all. most probably
marketing people found out that it is not needed to define anything to
make people buyANYTHING.


Well ... My goal was NOT to start a flame war around the cloud term 
...


I wasn't flaming, just remarking on the fact that the meaning of 
cloud depends on the company that is trying to sell you cloud 
related products.



next time I'll choose better words :-)


A bit more specific would be useful.


we would like to offer to our students and professors
a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
from almost anywhere and with almost any devices


could be taken to mean anything from WebDAV/Dropbox functionality to 
Hadoop type processing or data mining. What sort of and how much 
manipulation is needed? If you answer that it would let us help you 
more.



Well ... in short I need to let our users ( students + profs ) access 
and share their data ( living in their UNIX home directories )

The access must be easy and possible from as much devices as possible.
Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...)





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compatibility

2012-05-25 Thread Philippe Combier
Hello !
I have  a Samsung  portable with an Intel Atom cpu N450 . In 
http://www.freebsd.org/fr/where.html , you specify “versions  platform “ and I 
cannot  locate  the type of processor of  my Samsung .What choice do I do ? 
Thank you very much for the answer
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:

 On 05/25/2012 04:49 PM, Arthur Chance wrote:

 On 05/25/12 15:12, Frank Bonnet wrote:

 On 05/25/2012 04:04 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:


 With apologies to Joni Mitchell:

 I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
 From up and down, and still somehow,
 It's cloud illusions I recall,
 I really don't know clouds, at all.

 Well, someone had to say it. :-) It summarises the marketing hype
 perfectly.


 fashion is quite often deciding factor not just in clothes. Actually
 it works just the same in IT. What is funny with cloud computing
 (new fashion trend) is that isn't defined at all. most probably
 marketing people found out that it is not needed to define anything to
 make people buyANYTHING.


 Well ... My goal was NOT to start a flame war around the cloud term ...


 I wasn't flaming, just remarking on the fact that the meaning of cloud
 depends on the company that is trying to sell you cloud related products.

  next time I'll choose better words :-)


 A bit more specific would be useful.

  we would like to offer to our students and professors
 a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
 from almost anywhere and with almost any devices


 could be taken to mean anything from WebDAV/Dropbox functionality to
 Hadoop type processing or data mining. What sort of and how much
 manipulation is needed? If you answer that it would let us help you more.



 Well ... in short I need to let our users ( students + profs ) access and
 share their data ( living in their UNIX home directories )
 The access must be easy and possible from as much devices as possible.
 Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...)








http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-servers.html


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.html
30.3 Network File System (NFS)


Use NFS :
Define each computer as both Server to serve to other users(s) and
Client .to see the other server(s) .



If there are Windows computers , you may also use  SAMBA :

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-samba.html
30.9 File and Print Services for Microsoft® Windows® Clients (Samba)

Windows 7 may see NFS , but previous editions , personally I do NOT know
any possibility .

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/sonasic/sonas1ic/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.sonas.doc%2Fusgr_cnnctng_via_nfs_frm_wndws.html


Enabling the NFS client on a Windows 7 system:

   1. Select Control Panel.
   2. Select Programs.
   3. Select Programs and Features.
   4. Select Turn Windows Features on or off.
   5. Select Services for NFS.
   6. Select the check box Client for NFS and click OK.




Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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ghostscript build problem

2012-05-25 Thread Gary Aitken

My build of gnome2-lite failed building ghostscript.
Went to ports/ghostscript and did
  make clean
  make install
and I still get the same error.

After make install attempt,
  work/ghostscript-9.05/epag-3.09
exists and has files with original dates, except
  ert.c
  gdevpag.c
were freshly created.
however, there is no .o or executable.
In addition, the directory epag-3.09 has owner and group set to 1000,
which as nearly as I can tell are both non-existent owner and group on 
this system.


output of make -v install:

...
= SHA256 Checksum OK for ghostscript/ghostscript-9.05.tar.bz2.
= SHA256 Checksum OK for ghostscript/epag-3.09.tar.gz.
/usr/bin/tar -C /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05 -xzf 
/usr/ports/distfiles/ghostscript/epag-3.09.tar.gz
/bin/ln -s -f epag-3.09 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/epag
install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/files/epag.contrib.mak 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript

-9.05/base/epag.contrib.mak
...

===  Building for ghostscript9-9.05_3
/bin/ln -s -f 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/epag-3.09/gdevepag.c 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscrip

t-9.05/base
/bin/mkdir -p 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/contrib/epag
install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/epag-3.09/* 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/

ghostscript-9.05/contrib/epag
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/obj
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/bin
GNU Make 3.82
Built for amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0
...
cd /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/epag-3.09  
/usr/bin/env CFLAGS_STANDARD=-O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing
XCFLAGS= XLDFLAGS=-pthread  EXTRALIBS=-liconv 
SOC_LOADER=dxmainc.c FT_BRIDGE=1 SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES 
AUTOCONF=/usr/loc
al/bin/autoconf-2.69  AUTOCONF_DIR=/usr/local/share/autoconf-2.69 
AUTOHEADER=/usr/local/bin/autoheader-2.69  AUTOIFNAMES=/usr/local
/bin/ifnames-2.69  AUTOM4TE=/usr/local/bin/autom4te-2.69 
AUTORECONF=/usr/local/bin/autoreconf-2.69  AUTOSCAN=/usr/local/bin/autosca
n-2.69  AUTOUPDATE=/usr/local/bin/autoupdate-2.69  AUTOCONF_VERSION=2.69 
 PREFIX=/usr/local  LOCALBASE=/usr/local  MOTIFLIB=-L/usr/
local/lib -lXm -lXp LIBDIR=/usr/lib  CC=cc CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe 
-fno-strict-aliasing  CPP=cpp CPPFLAGS=-DUPD_SIGNAL=0 -I.  -I/
usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/lcms/include 
-I/usr/local/include/libpng  -I/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/g
hostscript-9.05/openjpeg/libopenjpeg 
-I/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/openjpeg 
-I/usr/local/include  LDFLAGS
= -L/usr/local/lib  CXX=c++ CXXFLAGS=-O2 -pipe 
-fno-strict-aliasing  MANPREFIX=/usr/local 
BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM=install  -s -
o root -g wheel -m 555  BSD_INSTALL_LIB=install  -s -o root -g wheel 
-m 444  BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT=install  -o root -g wheel -m 555
  BSD_INSTALL_DATA=install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 
BSD_INSTALL_MAN=install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 make -f Makefile
cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing  -c 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/epag-3.09/ert.c

cc -o ert ert.o
cd /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05   cc -O2 -pipe 
-fno-strict-aliasing -I./obj -I./soobj -I./base  -I./contrib
/pcl3/eprn -o bin/pcl3opts  contrib/pcl3/src/pcl3opts.c 
contrib/pcl3/src/pclscan.c  contrib/pcl3/eprn/mediasize.c contrib/pcl3/src/p

clsize.c
test: -eq: unexpected operator
In file included from contrib/pcl3/eprn/mediasize.c:26:
./base/std.h:23:18: error: arch.h: No such file or directory

*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9.


Anyone else have this problem or can suggest a fix?

Thanks,

Gary
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Somewhat OT: CVS Question

2012-05-25 Thread Tim Daneliuk

Forgive the OT nature of this, but FBSD tends to be a big CVS user, so I
am hoping someone has an answer for this.  Feel free to reply privately
if you do not wish to inflict your answer up on the whole list...

Is there a way to checkout a project from a CVS repo *into the current
directory*?   If I do this:

cvs co -d .  foo

Or this:

cvs co -d ./ foo

I get this:

cvs checkout: existing repository /usr/cvs/... does not match /usr/cvs/.../foo
cvs checkout: ignoring module waccess

Ideas?
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa

Hi!

On 25.05.2012 17:12, Frank Bonnet wrote:

On 05/25/2012 04:49 PM, Arthur Chance wrote:

On 05/25/12 15:12, Frank Bonnet wrote:

On 05/25/2012 04:04 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:


With apologies to Joni Mitchell:

I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
From up and down, and still somehow,
It's cloud illusions I recall,
I really don't know clouds, at all.

Well, someone had to say it. :-) It summarises the marketing hype
perfectly.


fashion is quite often deciding factor not just in clothes. Actually
it works just the same in IT. What is funny with cloud computing
(new fashion trend) is that isn't defined at all. most probably
marketing people found out that it is not needed to define anything to
make people buyANYTHING.


Well ... My goal was NOT to start a flame war around the cloud term
...


I wasn't flaming, just remarking on the fact that the meaning of
cloud depends on the company that is trying to sell you cloud
related products.


next time I'll choose better words :-)


A bit more specific would be useful.


we would like to offer to our students and professors
a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate their personnal data
from almost anywhere and with almost any devices


could be taken to mean anything from WebDAV/Dropbox functionality to
Hadoop type processing or data mining. What sort of and how much
manipulation is needed? If you answer that it would let us help you
more.



Well ... in short I need to let our users ( students + profs ) access
and share their data ( living in their UNIX home directories )
The access must be easy and possible from as much devices as possible.
Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...)


Well, this should reduce the cloud to an sftp-server or - if their stuff
isn't security sensitive to an ftp-server.

Greetings

Uli.





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portupgrade ... doesn't

2012-05-25 Thread Gary Aitken

Has to be something stupid:

347 /usr/ports#pkg_version -v | grep updating
p5-XML-Twig-3.39   needs updating (port has 3.40)

348 /usr/ports#portupgrade -Rv P5-XML-Twig
---  Session started at: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:03:54 -0600
[Exclude up-to-date packages  done]
** None has been installed or upgraded.
---  Session ended at: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:03:54 -0600 (consumed 00:00:00)

350 /usr/ports#pkg_info | grep p5-XML-Twig
p5-XML-Twig-3.39Process huge XML documents by chunks via a tree 
interface


hints?
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Re: compatibility

2012-05-25 Thread doug

On Fri, 25 May 2012, Philippe Combier wrote:


Hello !
I have  a Samsung  portable with an Intel Atom cpu N450 . In 
http://www.freebsd.org/fr/where.html , you specify ?versions  platform ? and I 
cannot  locate  the type of processor of  my Samsung .What choice do I do ?
Thank you very much for the answer



http://ark.intel.com/products/42503 = amd64
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Arthur Chance

On 05/25/12 16:12, Frank Bonnet wrote:
[big snip]

Well ... in short I need to let our users ( students + profs ) access
and share their data ( living in their UNIX home directories )
The access must be easy and possible from as much devices as possible.
Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...)


That's fine. OK, so you're after basic file system visibility 
everywhere. You should look at Mehmet Erol Sanliturk's reply as well, he 
gives useful links.


As he said in his post, NFS is the first place to start. It's available 
on FreeBSD, Linux, Mac OS, other Unix derived systems, and Windows 7. 
The one thing to be careful of is that it works best when you have all 
home directories on central servers and all access is on client 
machines. It is possible to cross mount NFS that machines act as both 
servers and clients but it has many problems and one server crashing can 
cause everything to lock up. (Been there, done that, cursed repeatedly.)


For earlier ( 7) Windows boxes, one possibility is running Samba on the 
Unix servers. This would seem most natural to a Windows user as they 
merely have to browse the network to find the shared file systems.


However, another possibility is running a WebDAV server that makes the 
home directories visible. Windows (= XP) can connect drive letters to 
WebDAV servers, and there are also Android and iPhone apps that can 
access WebDAV. This would let smartphone and tablet users get to the 
shared data, if that's useful. Please note that I use Android but not 
iOS, so any IOS suggestions are from a quick Google search, not 
experience. It also seems that you have to pay for the relevant iOS 
apps. Maybe an iPhone/iPad user can improve on this?


I hope this is of some help.

Possibly useful links:

The handbook chapter on network servers. This covers NFS, Samba and 
Apache which can be used for WebDAV.


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.html#NETWORK-SERVERS

Wikipedia on WebDAV. This links onwards to all sorts of related resources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV

An Android app that can access WebDAV (and much more besides). This is 
one I use, but please note that I haven't used it specifically for 
WebDAV. You may be able to find others but this is well rated. It's got 
free and paid for versions.


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xcxin.filexpert

A (paid for) iPhone WebDAV app. Apparently iWork for iOS can also handle 
WebDAV, but I know nothing about it or its suitability.


http://greenbytes.de/dav-e.html

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Wojciech Puchar on Friday, 25 May 2012:
 
 With apologies to Joni Mitchell:
 
 I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
 From up and down, and still somehow,
 It's cloud illusions I recall,
 I really don't know clouds, at all.
 
 Well, someone had to say it. :-) It summarises the marketing hype 
 perfectly.
 
 fashion is quite often deciding factor not just in clothes. Actually it 
 works just the same in IT. What is funny with cloud computing (new 
 fashion trend) is that isn't defined at all. most probably marketing 
 people found out that it is not needed to define anything to make people 
 buyANYTHING.

$ man -k cloud
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2012-05-25

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Re: Somewhat OT: CVS Question

2012-05-25 Thread Greg Larkin
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On 5/25/12 11:59 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
 Forgive the OT nature of this, but FBSD tends to be a big CVS user,
 so I am hoping someone has an answer for this.  Feel free to reply
 privately if you do not wish to inflict your answer up on the whole
 list...
 
 Is there a way to checkout a project from a CVS repo *into the
 current directory*?   If I do this:
 
 cvs co -d .  foo
 
 Or this:
 
 cvs co -d ./ foo
 
 I get this:
 
 cvs checkout: existing repository /usr/cvs/... does not match 
 /usr/cvs/.../foo cvs checkout: ignoring module waccess
 
 Ideas?

Hi Tim,

Yes, that's possible, and I do it with the ports tree on my
development machine when I only want to work on a small portion of the
tree, e.g.:

mkdir ~/FreeBSD
cd ~/FreeBSD
cvs co -l -d . ports
cd ports
cvs co -l -d . ports/www
cd www
cvs co -d . ports/www/zend-framework [or just zend-framework because
of the alias in CVSROOT/modules]

The error you're receiving makes me thing something is wrong with your
CVSROOT setting.  Can you show it, as well as the full command line?
The module waccess message doesn't make sense with the command line
you provided.

Thank you,
Greg
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Re: question about milter software

2012-05-25 Thread Patrick
I think you'll find Postfix to be much more modern and easy to work
with for that kind of message rewriting.

But what you're looking for is pretty complicated when you start
having to deal with multipart messages; the messages have to be
completely processed and separated into respective parts, and then
once the rich part is found, you've got to parse the HTML and insert
the footer into the right spot, and then recompile the message. And if
the message is plain text only, you can't insert HTML and have it be
displayed as such. In short, I doubt you'll have much success in doing
this well. It would be better to configure this in the email client
and lock that down somehow.

Patrick


On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
 Does anyone know milter software (or maybe anything else) to add to sendmail
 that can rewrite outgoing mail and add HTML footer automatically?

 Please do not tell me about how stupid HTML mail is at all - i know it, it
 is not my idea.

 thanks
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Ports-Related Commands Hanging After 9.0 Upgrade

2012-05-25 Thread Sam Jones
Hi all,

Forgive me if this is a repeat topic. I'd appreciate it if somebody
could point me to the answer.

I recently upgraded to 9.0 on my server, but since then a lot of
ports-related commands (portupgrade, pkg_version, portsnap, etc.) just
hang when I try to execute them. I'm not even really sure where to
begin troubleshooting. Has anybody else seen this behavior?

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 25 May 2012, Frank Bonnet wrote:


Well ... in short I need to let our users ( students + profs ) access and 
share their data ( living in their UNIX home directories )

The access must be easy and possible from as much devices as possible.
Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...)


Access is still a bit vague, but security/openvpn may be part of the 
answer: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source.html

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ports build and synchronization issues

2012-05-25 Thread Gary Aitken
I've had a number of failures attempting to build things,
but on several occasions builds have failed with what looks like may be 
threading / subprocess synchronization issues.  
I'm running 9.0-RELEASE on a 4-processor amd64 system w/ 16GB.

For example, an attempt to build openoffice-3 failed building package 
textproc/redland when a dependent package build couldn't find some doc pages. 
It was trying to build textproc/rasqal and looking for what I think was
the open-motif library and couldn't find it because 
the (open-motif?) install failed because of the doc pages issue.
Rerunning make install at the openoffice-3 level still failed at the same 
point.
Going to the dependent text package and doing a make install claimed the 
package was already installed.
make deinstall and make clean install solved the issue.

I'm a little fuzzy on the details because I don't have the build output,
and used two different windows, one to build and another to check status
using pkg_info, etc.
Backing up in the command history I have this, 
which resulted in a complete build:

cd openoffice-3
make original failure due to missing doc files
make -v install  repeated the same failure
cd ../../textproc/redlandattempt to build dependent pkg redland
make clean
make -v install  failed on dependent pkg rasqal
cd ../rasqal
make deinstall   begin of successful build of rasqal
make clean
make install
cd ../../textproc/redland 
make install begin of successful build of redland
cd ../../editors/openoffice-3
make install resume  successful build of openoffice-3

The original error seems like a synchronization problem 
between the subprocesses doing the builds.  
Is anyone else seeing this kind of behavior?

Gary
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re0 take 100% CPU

2012-05-25 Thread Eugen Konkov
How to look what re0 is doing?? And how to debug that?

last pid: 74164;  load averages: 17.97, 13.81, 14.40   
up 47+09:31:54  21:50:58
110 processes: 9 running, 87 sleeping, 14 waiting
CPU:  0.5% user,  0.0% nice,  1.6% system, 97.9% interrupt,  0.0% idle
Mem: 194M Active, 449M Inact, 204M Wired, 20K Cache, 112M Buf, 1143M Free
Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
   12 root -76- 0K   112K WAIT65.3H 100.00% {irq256: re0}
65795 root  390 13420K  5804K select  19:58  0.63% snmpd
 2664 root  360 14608K  6812K RUN 75:49  0.54% bgpd
0 root -760 0K80K -   31.6H  0.44% {dummynet}
 7758 bind  360 75268K 62880K RUN178:21  0.24% {named}
   12 root -44- 0K   112K WAIT29.4H  0.10% {swi4: clock}

# systat -v
2 usersLoad 13.61 12.24 13.96  May 24 21:49

Mem:KBREALVIRTUAL   VN PAGER   SWAP PAGER
Tot   Share  TotShareFree   in   out in   out
Act  2561006368   626872 8116 1171172  count
All  3539609500  279281226356  pages
Proc:Interrupts
  r   p   d   s   w   Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt  3 cow4404 total
 12  32  2207  106 4216 4404 3983   48 28 zfod  1 ata0 14
  ozfod  4119 hpet0 20
 4.1%Sys  93.4%Intr  2.6%User  0.0%Nice  0.0%Idle%ozfod   uhci0 ehci
|||||||||||   daefr   284 re0 256
==+++  7 prcfr
40 dtbuf   44 totfr
Namei Name-cache   Dir-cache111725 desvn  react
   Callshits   %hits   % 64097 numvn  pdwak
31773177 100 27926 frevn  pdpgs
  intrn
Disks   ad1   da0 pass0209000 wire
KB/t  14.85  0.00  0.00198616 act
tps   1 0 0459200 inact
MB/s   0.01  0.00  0.0020 cache
%busy 2 0 0   1169956 free

# vmstat -i
interrupt  total   rate
irq14: ata0  5946124  1
irq20: hpet0  3979660990971
irq23: uhci0 ehci085  0
irq256: re0   3847013663939
Total 7832620862   1912
# uptime
 9:44PM  up 47 days,  9:25, 2 users, load averages: 9.05, 14.17, 15.61

#bwm-ng -I re0
  bwm-ng v0.6 (probing every 0.500s), press 'h' for help
  input: getifaddrs type: rate
  - iface   Rx   TxTotal
  ==
  re0:  13.32 Mb/s   12.42 Mb/s   25.74 Mb/s
  --
total:  14.95 Mb/s   13.94 Mb/s   28.89 Mb/s
# vmstat -z
ITEM   SIZE  LIMIT USED FREE  REQ FAIL SLEEP

UMA Kegs:   128,  0,  92,  28,  92,   0,   0
UMA Zones:  224,  0,  92,  10,  92,   0,   0
UMA Slabs:  284,  0,1158,   4,   29780,   0,   0
UMA RCntSlabs:  544,  0, 919,   5, 919,   0,   0
UMA Hash:   128,  0,   2,  28,   3,   0,   0
16 Bucket:   76,  0,  36,  14,  36,   0,   0
32 Bucket:  140,  0,  43,  13,  44,   0,   0
64 Bucket:  268,  0,  59,  11,  67,  90,   0
128 Bucket: 524,  0, 895,   1,   27120, 585,   0
VM OBJECT:  136,  0,   37976, 130,40520105,   0,   0
MAP:140,  0,   7,  49,   7,   0,   0
KMAP ENTRY:  72,  57505,  32, 127,   79899,   0,   0
MAP ENTRY:   72,  0,2094,1192,100480394,   0,   0
DP fakepg:   72,  0,   0,   0,   0,   0,   0
SG fakepg:   72,  0,   0,   0,   0,   0,   0
mt_zone:   2060,  0, 268,  11, 268,   0,   0
16:  16,  0,5106, 375,251057215,   0,   0
32:  32,  0,   26924, 196,1931894354,   0,   0
64:  64,  0,6372, 413,172309547,   0,   0
128:128,  0,   23931,   41019,195195229,   0,   0
256:256,  0,2786, 289,2302309652,   0,   0
512:512,  0, 638,  58, 4189195,   0,   0
1024:

Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 May 2012 12:11:43 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote:
 On Fri, 25 May 2012, Frank Bonnet wrote:
 
  Well ... in short I need to let our users ( students + profs ) access and 
  share their data ( living in their UNIX home directories )
  The access must be easy and possible from as much devices as possible.
  Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...)
 
 Access is still a bit vague, but security/openvpn may be part of the 
 answer: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source.html

Some months ago, I read about an in-browser implementation of
VNC (if I remember correctly), but I didn't store the link.
Maybe that is an inspiration? Simple solution for simple people:
People love web browsers, and the web is everywhere. So why
deal with OS-specific access methods when all they need is
a web browser, which is a solution they'll prefer anyway?
There are also SSH clients written in Java or JavaScript.
Together with webmail, web-based collaboration services and
web-based storage concepts, why not add this to the mix?
I know, attack vector, security hole, slow, unhandy and
accessibility very limited to what the browser can do (both
on input and output), but isn't that what people believe in?
Don't disturb their circles, just give them what they pray for,
a cloud... a shiny foggy cloud... :-)



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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 May 2012 09:47:24 -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
 $ man -k cloud
 http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2012-05-25

Very nice, but please compare:
http://xkcd.com/908/

:-)


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Kernel Panic any help?

2012-05-25 Thread Jens Jahnke
Hi,

as a happy freebsd user since about 2 years I have experienced my first kernel 
panic and have no idea what to do.

My main machine crashed an hour ago and since then I can't get it to boot.

The panic message:

panic: ffs_clusteralloc: map mismatch
cpuid = 0
KDB: stack backtrace
#0 0x8063dcbe at kdb_backtrace+0x5e
#1 0x8060aed7 at panic+0x187
#2 0x8082c1df at ffs_clusteralloc+0x4cf
#3 0x80828448 at ffs_hashalloc+0x28
#4 0x80829a31 at ffs_reallocblks+0x421
#5 0x8068accf at cluster_write+0x4df
#6 0x8084a1cf at ffs_write+0x58f
#7 0x8097e6a2 at VOP_WRITE_APV+0xb2
#8 0x806a9f23 at vn_write+0x373
#9 0x8064dceb at dofilewrite+0x8b
#10 0x8064e000 at kern_writev+0x60
#11 0x8064e085 at write+0x55
#12 0x809000c4 at amd64_syscall+0x1f4
#13 0x808e8a6c at Xfast_syscall+0xfc

System setup:

FreeBSD 8.3, up to date
some file system ufs + soft updates
root fs ufs without soft updates
home encrypted via geli

Regards,

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Re: Kernel Panic any help?

2012-05-25 Thread John Levine
panic: ffs_clusteralloc: map mismatch

Something's fairly badly screwed up on your disk.  My advice would be
to boot from a CD or USB key and run fsck to try to repair it.

R's,
John
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removing /var/empty on a non-system disk

2012-05-25 Thread Gary Aitken
something I'm not seeing

I've got a disk previously used as a sys disk I'm trying to clean up.
What's the key to removing /var/empty?

280 /hd1/var#sysctl kern.securelevel
kern.securelevel: -1
281 /hd1/var#ls -l
total 4
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan  3 00:55 empty
282 /hd1/var#chflags noschg empty
283 /hd1/var#chmod 777 empty
chmod: empty: Operation not permitted
284 /hd1/var#rmdir empty
rmdir: empty: Operation not permitted
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Re: compatibility

2012-05-25 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Fri May 25 10:25:21 2012
 From: Philippe Combier phxant...@wanadoo.fr
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 17:22:52 +0200
 Cc: 
 Subject: compatibility

 Hello !
 I have  a Samsung  portable with an Intel Atom cpu N450 . In http://www
 .freebsd.org/fr/where.html , you specify a?oeversions  platform a?oe a
 nd I cannot locate  the type of processor of  my Samsung .What choice d
 o I do ? 

You can select from three choices:

1) Pick an O/S where your choice of hardware is supported.
2) Pick hardware that is supported by your choice of O/S.
3) 'Port' your O/S of choice to your choice of hardware yourself, or
   if you lack the skills to do it yourself, pay someone to do it for
   your.

The choice between 1 vs 2  depends on which is 'more important', the 
hardware, or the software.  3 describes what is necessary if you are
not willing to compromise on -either- hardware or software.  Being
'unable'/'unwilling' to compromise is expensive.   Your choice.


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Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk

2012-05-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 May 2012 14:04:50 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 something I'm not seeing
 
 I've got a disk previously used as a sys disk I'm trying to clean up.
 What's the key to removing /var/empty?
 
 280 /hd1/var#sysctl kern.securelevel
 kern.securelevel: -1
 281 /hd1/var#ls -l
 total 4
 dr-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan  3 00:55 empty
 282 /hd1/var#chflags noschg empty
 283 /hd1/var#chmod 777 empty
 chmod: empty: Operation not permitted
 284 /hd1/var#rmdir empty
 rmdir: empty: Operation not permitted

Interesting, I just tried this on my home system (FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE)
and it worked as intended. I did use the exact commands,
same securelevel.

Use the -o option for ls (ls -lo) to check on the effect
of chflags and chmod.

Without eexamining this behaviour in more detail, how about
this approach? Unmount the former system disk and newfs it?
That should solve the problem. :-)


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Re: question about milter software

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I think you'll find Postfix to be much more modern and easy to work
with for that kind of message rewriting.


you are actually wrong in that statement. In spite of hype that 
postscript started with, i am still using sendmail because it is actually 
easiest if you learn it.




But what you're looking for is pretty complicated when you start
having to deal with multipart messages; the messages have to be


this is unfortunately true, because i could quickly do myself a filter 
that would trivially append footer, but it will not work.


That's the reason of my question - IF such (quite complex) software is 
already written.

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Well ... My goal was NOT to start a flame war around the cloud term ...

you didn't. You just started a flame of requests to be more precise and go 
down from the clouds to earth.


So finally write down what you need, and we most probably can help you.

But... if you want to just sell some solution, make anything and just 
promote it enough calling it cloud computing and it would probably sell ;)

until this bubble (just like bubbles before) would crash
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Well ... in short I need to let our users ( students + profs ) access and 
share their data ( living in their UNIX home directories )

The access must be easy and possible from as much devices as possible.
Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...)


yes NOW IT IS CLEAR. Couldn't you start that way.

There are many solutions and it depends of what you need. On large scale 
maybe something like AFS? Or maybe far more trivial methods would be 
enough. It all depends.


fell free to mail me privately.
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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.html
30.3 Network File System (NFS)


Use NFS :
Define each computer as both Server to serve to other users(s) and
Client .to see the other server(s) .



If there are Windows computers , you may also use  SAMBA :

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-samba.html


all are great and heavily used be me but i think it may not fit on 
distributed environment with where network is far slower than 100Mbit/s 
inbetween.

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Derek Ragona

At 03:11 AM 5/25/2012, Frank Bonnet wrote:

Hello

I'm searching for a cloud software :-)

More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )

Anyone could help ?
Thank you



Take a look at OpenStack
http://openstack.org/

The latest release which is Essex, includes a web based dashboard.  This is 
OpenSource, and definitely a work in progress but the Essex release should 
provide most of the cloud functionality.


-Derek

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Re: question about milter software

2012-05-25 Thread Derek Ragona

At 08:21 AM 5/25/2012, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Does anyone know milter software (or maybe anything else) to add to 
sendmail that can rewrite outgoing mail and add HTML footer automatically?


Please do not tell me about how stupid HTML mail is at all - i know it, it 
is not my idea.


thanks



I have used milter with sendmail.  You can add an outgoing email footer. If 
you need more information, email me directly.


-Derek

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Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk

2012-05-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 25/05/2012 22:04, Gary Aitken wrote:
 I've got a disk previously used as a sys disk I'm trying to clean up.
 What's the key to removing /var/empty?

# chflags 0 /var/empty
# rm -rf /var/empty

is the usual idiom.

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar

The access must be easy and possible from as much devices as possible.
Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...)


Well, this should reduce the cloud to an sftp-server or - if their stuff
isn't security sensitive to an ftp-server.


depends on connectivity. If you just want to access small files sometimes 
then right.



or have high speed connections, then SAMBA and NFS is right tool.

if you want 1000 users to have their home directories always on their 
computers but with copy kept centrally, then it would be best to keep it 
locally and run rsync (for unix users) or syncback under windoze to just 
synchronize it every day after work.


If you need some shared directories but where one person changes data and 
other reads - then still that solution is great.



But if you don't have fast links, operate on directories shared between 
users where more than one have to write, then something more complex is 
needed.

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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar


As he said in his post, NFS is the first place to start. It's available on 
FreeBSD, Linux, Mac OS, other Unix derived systems, and Windows 7. The one 
thing to be careful of is that it works best when you have all home 
directories on central servers and all access is on client machines. It is


i would strongly recommend serving windows clients with windows protocol 
(samba), it is just simple and works great


For earlier ( 7) Windows boxes, one possibility is running Samba on the Unix 
servers. This would seem most natural to a Windows user as they merely have 
to browse the network to find the shared file systems.


With windows 7 samba still is far better.

And with NFS you will not be able to enforce security without making 
separate filesystem for each user.


However, another possibility is running a WebDAV server that makes the home 
directories visible. Windows (= XP) can connect drive letters to WebDAV 
servers, and there are also Android and iPhone apps that can access WebDAV.


if really someone needs HTTP based file access (IMHO stupid) because 
phones require this i would rather set it up parallel to SAMBA and/or NFS






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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...)


Access is still a bit vague, but security/openvpn may be part of the
answer: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source.html


for windows users i would recommend mpd - it provides VPN in windows 
standard, just use windows add connection, select VPN connection to 
work and go on.




Some months ago, I read about an in-browser implementation of
VNC (if I remember correctly), but I didn't store the link.
Maybe that is an inspiration? Simple solution for simple people:
People love web browsers, and the web is everywhere. So why
deal with OS-specific access methods when all they need is
a web browser, which is a solution they'll prefer anyway?
There are also SSH clients written in Java or JavaScript.


if you can make people use unix-only software, this is fine.

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Re: re0 take 100% CPU

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar

broken device or motherboard, or conflict. check if irq is not shared.

re0 are not great network cards but really not that bad. something is 
badly broken with hardware


On Fri, 25 May 2012, Eugen Konkov wrote:


How to look what re0 is doing?? And how to debug that?

last pid: 74164;  load averages: 17.97, 13.81, 14.40   
up 47+09:31:54  21:50:58
110 processes: 9 running, 87 sleeping, 14 waiting
CPU:  0.5% user,  0.0% nice,  1.6% system, 97.9% interrupt,  0.0% idle
Mem: 194M Active, 449M Inact, 204M Wired, 20K Cache, 112M Buf, 1143M Free
Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free

 PID USERNAME PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
  12 root -76- 0K   112K WAIT65.3H 100.00% {irq256: re0}
65795 root  390 13420K  5804K select  19:58  0.63% snmpd
2664 root  360 14608K  6812K RUN 75:49  0.54% bgpd
   0 root -760 0K80K -   31.6H  0.44% {dummynet}
7758 bind  360 75268K 62880K RUN178:21  0.24% {named}
  12 root -44- 0K   112K WAIT29.4H  0.10% {swi4: clock}

# systat -v
   2 usersLoad 13.61 12.24 13.96  May 24 21:49

Mem:KBREALVIRTUAL   VN PAGER   SWAP PAGER
   Tot   Share  TotShareFree   in   out in   out
Act  2561006368   626872 8116 1171172  count
All  3539609500  279281226356  pages
Proc:Interrupts
 r   p   d   s   w   Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt  3 cow4404 total
12  32  2207  106 4216 4404 3983   48 28 zfod  1 ata0 14
 ozfod  4119 hpet0 20
4.1%Sys  93.4%Intr  2.6%User  0.0%Nice  0.0%Idle%ozfod   uhci0 ehci
|||||||||||   daefr   284 re0 256
==+++  7 prcfr
   40 dtbuf   44 totfr
Namei Name-cache   Dir-cache111725 desvn  react
  Callshits   %hits   % 64097 numvn  pdwak
   31773177 100 27926 frevn  pdpgs
 intrn
Disks   ad1   da0 pass0209000 wire
KB/t  14.85  0.00  0.00198616 act
tps   1 0 0459200 inact
MB/s   0.01  0.00  0.0020 cache
%busy 2 0 0   1169956 free

# vmstat -i
interrupt  total   rate
irq14: ata0  5946124  1
irq20: hpet0  3979660990971
irq23: uhci0 ehci085  0
irq256: re0   3847013663939
Total 7832620862   1912
# uptime
9:44PM  up 47 days,  9:25, 2 users, load averages: 9.05, 14.17, 15.61

#bwm-ng -I re0
 bwm-ng v0.6 (probing every 0.500s), press 'h' for help
 input: getifaddrs type: rate
 - iface   Rx   TxTotal
 ==
 re0:  13.32 Mb/s   12.42 Mb/s   25.74 Mb/s
 --
   total:  14.95 Mb/s   13.94 Mb/s   28.89 Mb/s
# vmstat -z
ITEM   SIZE  LIMIT USED FREE  REQ FAIL SLEEP

UMA Kegs:   128,  0,  92,  28,  92,   0,   0
UMA Zones:  224,  0,  92,  10,  92,   0,   0
UMA Slabs:  284,  0,1158,   4,   29780,   0,   0
UMA RCntSlabs:  544,  0, 919,   5, 919,   0,   0
UMA Hash:   128,  0,   2,  28,   3,   0,   0
16 Bucket:   76,  0,  36,  14,  36,   0,   0
32 Bucket:  140,  0,  43,  13,  44,   0,   0
64 Bucket:  268,  0,  59,  11,  67,  90,   0
128 Bucket: 524,  0, 895,   1,   27120, 585,   0
VM OBJECT:  136,  0,   37976, 130,40520105,   0,   0
MAP:140,  0,   7,  49,   7,   0,   0
KMAP ENTRY:  72,  57505,  32, 127,   79899,   0,   0
MAP ENTRY:   72,  0,2094,1192,100480394,   0,   0
DP fakepg:   72,  0,   0,   0,   0,   0,   0
SG fakepg:   72,  0,   0,   0,   0,   0,   0
mt_zone:   2060,  0, 268,  11, 268,   0,   0
16:  16,  0,5106, 375,251057215,   0,   0
32:  32,  0,   26924, 196,1931894354,   0,   0
64:  64,  0,6372, 413,172309547,   0,   0
128:128,  0,   

Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar

chflags noschg is your friend.


On Fri, 25 May 2012, Gary Aitken wrote:


something I'm not seeing

I've got a disk previously used as a sys disk I'm trying to clean up.
What's the key to removing /var/empty?

280 /hd1/var#sysctl kern.securelevel
kern.securelevel: -1
281 /hd1/var#ls -l
total 4
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan  3 00:55 empty
282 /hd1/var#chflags noschg empty
283 /hd1/var#chmod 777 empty
chmod: empty: Operation not permitted
284 /hd1/var#rmdir empty
rmdir: empty: Operation not permitted
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Re: question about milter software

2012-05-25 Thread Patrick
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
 I think you'll find Postfix to be much more modern and easy to work
 with for that kind of message rewriting.


 you are actually wrong in that statement. In spite of hype that postscript
 started with, i am still using sendmail because it is actually easiest if
 you learn it.

I guess it's pretty subjective, which is how I should have originally
prefaced my statement. I used sendmail for a long time, and always
hated working with m4 or direct sendmail configuration files. For me,
Postfix is so much easier, but to each his own.

For your immediate need, I'd look at
http://www.ledge.co.za/software/disclaimermilter/ or MIMEDefang
(http://www.mimedefang.org/) which appears to be able to add
disclaimers.

Patrick
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Re: question about milter software

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I guess it's pretty subjective, which is how I should have originally
prefaced my statement. I used sendmail for a long time, and always
hated working with m4 or direct sendmail configuration files.


well i just used README file and sometimes google.


For me,
Postfix is so much easier, but to each his own.


it's mostly personal preferences. both are rather configurable, just 
different way.



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xorg crashes after ports-wide update, fontconfig the culprit?

2012-05-25 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
Having done a portmaster -a rendered my system virtually unusable, Xorg
kept crashing when opening claws-mail, firefox and thunderbird, opera
kept chrashing in a random fashion, too.

Quod googelet x11 crash site:freebsd.org and narrowing down the
results for to the last week, I found two references, i.e.,
1) http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?p=178234 and
2) http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?p=178014.

Having implemented 2) via portdowngrade to fontconfig-2.8.0_2,1 seems to
have solved the crashing issues for opera and claws, firefox and
thunderbird are waiting to be compiled. 

Has anyone observed similar issues, can anyone back my suspicion about
fontconfig or show me how to prove it and wouldn't a note on UPDATING be
in order?

Thanks for your comments, cheers and have a nice weekend,
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Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk

2012-05-25 Thread Gary Aitken
On 05/25/12 14:21, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 25 May 2012 14:04:50 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 something I'm not seeing

 I've got a disk previously used as a sys disk I'm trying to clean up.
 What's the key to removing /var/empty?

 280 /hd1/var#sysctl kern.securelevel
 kern.securelevel: -1
 281 /hd1/var#ls -l
 total 4
 dr-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan  3 00:55 empty
 282 /hd1/var#chflags noschg empty
 283 /hd1/var#chmod 777 empty
 chmod: empty: Operation not permitted
 284 /hd1/var#rmdir empty
 rmdir: empty: Operation not permitted
 
 Interesting, I just tried this on my home system (FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE)
 and it worked as intended. I did use the exact commands,
 same securelevel.
 
 Use the -o option for ls (ls -lo) to check on the effect
 of chflags and chmod.

Just found it, something I forgot about a long time ago...
I was running under su logged in as my normal user.
Had to back all the way out and log in as root.

 Without eexamining this behaviour in more detail, how about
 this approach? Unmount the former system disk and newfs it?
 That should solve the problem. :-)

Thought about that, but I wanted to understand what was going on.
Ignorance is never a good excuse. :-)

Gary
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Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk

2012-05-25 Thread Gary Aitken
On 05/25/12 14:38, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 chflags noschg is your friend.

Not in this case.
If you look at the commands attempted, that was already tried (line 282)
Topmost login had to be as root.
 
 On Fri, 25 May 2012, Gary Aitken wrote:
 
 something I'm not seeing

 I've got a disk previously used as a sys disk I'm trying to clean up.
 What's the key to removing /var/empty?

 280 /hd1/var#sysctl kern.securelevel
 kern.securelevel: -1
 281 /hd1/var#ls -l
 total 4
 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jan 3 00:55 empty
 282 /hd1/var#chflags noschg empty
 283 /hd1/var#chmod 777 empty
 chmod: empty: Operation not permitted
 284 /hd1/var#rmdir empty
 rmdir: empty: Operation not permitted


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Re: Ports-Related Commands Hanging After 9.0 Upgrade

2012-05-25 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
On Fri, 25 May 2012 13:33:29 -0400
Sam Jones samjones1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Forgive me if this is a repeat topic. I'd appreciate it if somebody
 could point me to the answer.
 
 I recently upgraded to 9.0 on my server, but since then a lot of
 ports-related commands (portupgrade, pkg_version, portsnap, etc.) just
 hang when I try to execute them. I'm not even really sure where to
 begin troubleshooting. Has anybody else seen this behavior?
 

Upgrading world leads to many system libs being updated, too. When ports
are dependant on these, a recompile of these ports might help.

If you need/want to be sure, sysutils/bsdadminscripts is supposed to
contain a script to check for broken shared libs system-wide and a
ldd(1) on the binary you are trying to run will spit out some libraries
you can the try to find(1).

Hope to have been of some help, cheers, Christopher
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Re: removing /var/empty on a non-system disk

2012-05-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:04:50 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 On 05/25/12 14:21, Polytropon wrote:
  On Fri, 25 May 2012 14:04:50 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
  something I'm not seeing
 
  I've got a disk previously used as a sys disk I'm trying to clean up.
  What's the key to removing /var/empty?
 
  280 /hd1/var#sysctl kern.securelevel
  kern.securelevel: -1
  281 /hd1/var#ls -l
  total 4
  dr-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan  3 00:55 empty
  282 /hd1/var#chflags noschg empty
  283 /hd1/var#chmod 777 empty
  chmod: empty: Operation not permitted
  284 /hd1/var#rmdir empty
  rmdir: empty: Operation not permitted
  
  Interesting, I just tried this on my home system (FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE)
  and it worked as intended. I did use the exact commands,
  same securelevel.
  
  Use the -o option for ls (ls -lo) to check on the effect
  of chflags and chmod.
 
 Just found it, something I forgot about a long time ago...
 I was running under su logged in as my normal user.
 Had to back all the way out and log in as root.

I should have mentioned that I did the (successful) test
logging in as root (real console login). If you use su -
or su root, the effect should be the same. You can always
check the success of your operation with the ls -lo command.



  Without eexamining this behaviour in more detail, how about
  this approach? Unmount the former system disk and newfs it?
  That should solve the problem. :-)
 
 Thought about that, but I wanted to understand what was going on.
 Ignorance is never a good excuse. :-)

True: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. :-)


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Re: Cloud software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Derek Ragona

At 06:15 AM 5/25/2012, Frank Bonnet wrote:

On 05/25/2012 12:10 PM, Dennis Glatting wrote:

On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 10:11 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:

Hello

I'm searching for a cloud software :-)

More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors
a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate  their personnal data
from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ...
( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones   and tablets ... etc )

There is a couple of cheap ways of doing this. First, download the free
version of VMWare ESXi and partition your hardware. Another is to
install VirtualBox, a Type-2 HyperVisor.

Depending on what you consider a cloud, take a look at Hadoop. Hadoop
isn't partitioning hardware but Hadoop and the applications that run on
top of Hadoop can give you an interesting view of these technologies and
how they can be applied to cloudy data.

As for how to get data into/out-of the cloud, let me know how that
works. :)





Hi Dennis

Thank you for that info !
gonna investigate the hadoop way.





I have built and managed a couple large hadoop clusters.  Contact me 
directly for more information.


-Derek

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why I am upset

2012-05-25 Thread ajtiM
Why I am upset but not just me?

I am running KDE 4.8 from January on my Linux computer. Now is almost June and 
we got KDE 4.8 on FreeBSD too. 5 months testing and it works? No. The modern 
OS for the desktop computer doesn;t works. O.K. OS works but installatoon of 5 
months testing of KDE doesn;t.
And help? Read /usr/ports/UOPDATING!! I red before I start inastallation but I 
am not sure if helpers did! Thank you for wasting my time.

Mitja

http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa
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Re: ports build and synchronization issues

2012-05-25 Thread Gary Aitken
This was the result of a conflict with building another port at the same time,
and is a known issue.
See:
  http://wiki.freebsd.org/IdeasPage#Parallelization_in_the_Ports_Collection

On 05/25/12 12:16, Gary Aitken wrote:
 I've had a number of failures attempting to build things,
 but on several occasions builds have failed with what looks like may be
 threading / subprocess synchronization issues.
 I'm running 9.0-RELEASE on a 4-processor amd64 system w/ 16GB.
 
 For example, an attempt to build openoffice-3 failed building package
 textproc/redland when a dependent package build couldn't find some doc pages.
 It was trying to build textproc/rasqal and looking for what I think was
 the open-motif library and couldn't find it because
 the (open-motif?) install failed because of the doc pages issue.
 Rerunning make install at the openoffice-3 level still failed at the same 
 point.
 Going to the dependent text package and doing a make install claimed the
 package was already installed.
 make deinstall and make clean install solved the issue.
 
 I'm a little fuzzy on the details because I don't have the build output,
 and used two different windows, one to build and another to check status
 using pkg_info, etc.
 Backing up in the command history I have this,
 which resulted in a complete build:
 
 cd openoffice-3
 make original failure due to missing doc files
 make -v install  repeated the same failure
 cd ../../textproc/redlandattempt to build dependent pkg redland
 make clean
 make -v install  failed on dependent pkg rasqal
 cd ../rasqal
 make deinstall   begin of successful build of rasqal
 make clean
 make install
 cd ../../textproc/redland
 make install begin of successful build of redland
 cd ../../editors/openoffice-3
 make install resume  successful build of openoffice-3
 
 The original error seems like a synchronization problem
 between the subprocesses doing the builds.
 Is anyone else seeing this kind of behavior?
 
 Gary
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