Re: Installing details
I am absolutely new to FreeBSD and would like a simple 'by the hand' explanation of how to install and use FreeBSD on a Pc. I tried to follow the info from its website but explanations seem too cryptic for me to understand properly. I'd like to try it on a empty partition of my hard drive, alternatively a memory stick/CD/DVD will also do. Appreciating any help. PS - I am a regular Windows user. so stick with it if you didn't read handbook and instalation manual which is NOT cryptic. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
Hi Ashkan, I think that XFS JFS are more mature filesystems than ZFS, but the feature set of ZFS i ahead in the future. For a NFS server first I'll go with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the differentiator. true. it is consistently slow. REALLY from what tale do you people get such a statements. Look at L2ARC and ZIL to improve ZFS speed. it's far better to just put manually heavily used things to SSD. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
i have 16tb storage. 8x2tb sata raided. i want to share it on network via nfs. which file system is better for it? thank you badly imprecise question. you may share any filesystem. Not sure what you want to achieve. No explanation of raided - this means nothing without precise description. If you ask what i do commonly then i would do 8 gmirror-based RAID1 volumes, and standard UFS filesystem on each with softupdates (or softupdates+journal). And move as much as possible software directly to machine. Never create another level of indirection (like NFS) when not needed. if you really HAVE to use NFS heavily i strongly recommend using unfsd from ports and patch if to AVOID constant fsync, and make sure UPS is installed. NFS protocol is terrible by design (not by implementation) resulting in all writes being done synchronously. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS bonnie puzzlement
are showing me. Read performance OTOH is strange, zpool and systat both reporting consistently an aggregated read speed of around 120MB/s during the block read tests (which seems a bit slow for the drives - and indeed systat reports the drives at less than 50% utilisation) but bonnie is only reporting 35MB/s, I see similar discrepancies with simple dd block reads to /dev/null, in which case my stopwatch agrees with dd. no it is not wrong. Do more tests (possibly your own doing heavy mixed workload) to understand well why you should not use this last word in filesystems. Discover it alone. I told already enough about it but it results in attacks from ZFS (and general new technology) fanatics. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
be well within patent law to apply for a patent. The patent office has never been very good at examining software patents, and I have made a lot of money helping companies document the prior art not cited in patents that are being asserted against them. good there are people that helps. Bad that there are patents at all. Not just in software. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
Wojciech Puchar writes: Bad that there are patents at all. Not just in software. Patents are - or should be - the means, not the end. The end is encourage people to create new stuff; the means of encouragement is to give them exclusive rights for a limited time. As long as the idea gets out there, we should be indifferent as to whether they make money. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:48:56 -0400 Robert Huff articulated: Wojciech Puchar writes: Bad that there are patents at all. Not just in software. Patents are - or should be - the means, not the end. The end is encourage people to create new stuff; the means of encouragement is to give them exclusive rights for a limited time. As long as the idea gets out there, we should be indifferent as to whether they make money. I agree up to the point about financial incentive. For myself, I like making money. I don't apologize for that. Most engineers, software / hardware designers also enjoy receiving a monetary reward for their hard work. Simple giving away our hard work, sweat and time to some socialist just because they feel they have the right to the hard work of others is repulsive. If a monetary reward were removed from the equation, we would probably still be using an abacus in the dark. While we certainly should be indifferent to the financial incentive and monetary reward someone receives; in all too many cases that is just not so. The socialists still feel they are entitled to something for nothing. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS bonnie puzzlement
On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 13:29:51 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: are showing me. Read performance OTOH is strange, zpool and systat both reporting consistently an aggregated read speed of around 120MB/s during the block read tests (which seems a bit slow for the drives - and indeed systat reports the drives at less than 50% utilisation) but bonnie is only reporting 35MB/s, I see similar discrepancies with simple dd block reads to /dev/null, in which case my stopwatch agrees with dd. no it is not wrong. Do more tests (possibly your own doing heavy mixed workload) to understand well why you should not use this last word in filesystems. First surprise, with only 4GB I had set primarycache=metadata, changing that to primarycache=all caused the systat, zpool iostat and bonnie figures all to agree - and made them all a bit better too. Lesson from this - don't bother setting primarycache=metadata. With that puzzle gone testing and tuning becomes more useful: Enabling prefetch made a huge difference to the per char sequential read, but didn't really change anything else. Indeed this test is now CPU limited in bonnie - that'll do. Rebooting with zfs.cache_flush_disable=1 made everything faster. Block writes and reads maxed out the discs at around 110MB/s and 200MB/s respectively - pretty close to the raw disc speed. Rewrite nearly doubled in speed too. Next stop NFS tuning. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins.|licences available see You lose and Bill collects. |http://www.sohara.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
Jerry writes: I agree up to the point about financial incentive. For myself, I like making money. I don't apologize for that. Most engineers, software / hardware designers also enjoy receiving a monetary reward for their hard work. Simple giving away our hard work, sweat and time to some socialist just because they feel they have the right to the hard work of others is repulsive. Would you call Jeff Bezos (CEO of Amazon) a socialist? Some years ago, he was giving an interview and was asked Jeff, Amazon has applied for a patent for the One-Click system. If Amazon had known before it started there was no chance of receiving a patent - would it have created One-Click anyway? [While I'm paraphasing, the essential content is preserved.] There was a long pause, during which you could tell Bezos understood _precisely_ what the real question was ... ... and (to his credit) answered Yes. The programmers got paid. Amazon gets paid in the form of more expedient processing and (presumably) more sales due to ease of check-out. Why, as a society, should we deny other innovators the ability to use that technology to develop - hopefully - even better stuff? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 03:46:53PM -0500, Marco Muskus wrote: Hi Ashkan, I think that XFS JFS are more mature filesystems than ZFS, but the feature set of ZFS i ahead in the future. For a NFS server first I'll go with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the differentiator. The idea that ZFS is faster than XFS is certainly a new one for me. Do you have some benchmarks for that? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: ZFS bonnie puzzlement
snip Discover it alone. I told already enough about it but it results in attacks from ZFS (and general new technology) fanatics. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If the rest of the world thought like you we would still be trying to invent the wheel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS bonnie puzzlement
First surprise, with only 4GB I had set primarycache=metadata, you mean 4 GIGABYTES of memory is ONLY? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
I think that XFS JFS are more mature filesystems than ZFS, but the feature set of ZFS i ahead in the future. For a NFS server first I'll go with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the differentiator. The idea that ZFS is faster than XFS is certainly a new one for me. Do is ZFS supposed to be faster at all? really - stick with FreeBSD UFS. it is really best. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: ZFS bonnie puzzlement
If the rest of the world thought like you we would still be trying to invent the wheel. ??? what wheel. UFS is already invented. For LONG time. And UFS+softupdates works great. much better than new trash ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 12:25:31 -0400 Robert Huff articulated: Jerry writes: I agree up to the point about financial incentive. For myself, I like making money. I don't apologize for that. Most engineers, software / hardware designers also enjoy receiving a monetary reward for their hard work. Simple giving away our hard work, sweat and time to some socialist just because they feel they have the right to the hard work of others is repulsive. Would you call Jeff Bezos (CEO of Amazon) a socialist? Some years ago, he was giving an interview and was asked Jeff, Amazon has applied for a patent for the One-Click system. If Amazon had known before it started there was no chance of receiving a patent - would it have created One-Click anyway? [While I'm paraphasing, the essential content is preserved.] There was a long pause, during which you could tell Bezos understood _precisely_ what the real question was ... ... and (to his credit) answered Yes. The programmers got paid. Amazon gets paid in the form of more expedient processing and (presumably) more sales due to ease of check-out. Why, as a society, should we deny other innovators the ability to use that technology to develop - hopefully - even better stuff? You are all over the board here. Nothing ever stops anyone from doing something for nothing. Hell, I have written some small software applications that I never expected to make a dime off. With that said, should I come up with some brilliant idea or killer software applications, I fully intend to protect my rights and make as much off of it as possible. I never stated than anyone should be denied the right to create or write basically whatever they so desire; however, if they are going to piggyback their work on another author or developer's works, then that individual deserves to receive compensation. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS bonnie puzzlement
On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 20:02:54 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: First surprise, with only 4GB I had set primarycache=metadata, you mean 4 GIGABYTES of memory is ONLY? At less than €30 - yes I think only is reasonable, I'd have bought more but 4GB is all the motherboard would take. I've paid more than that for a *KILOBYTE* of memory - admittedly that was a long time ago. One big part of the changing landscape in computer economics is that RAM and disc are *cheap*. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins.|licences available see You lose and Bill collects. |http://www.sohara.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Webpage screenshot
I'm searching for a simple way to create a screenshot from a web page, i. e. convert the rendered page into a PNG (or something similar) graphic format. This is intended to be used for usability and design visualization where different components of the web page can be colored using Gimp to show their structure by inking the different elements. The idea of taking a screenshot from the web browser may look sufficient at first, but it is problematic when the web page doesn't fit horizontally or vertically. This sometimes doesn't even work when using the browser in total fullscreen (which is 1400x1050 or 2800x1050 here). Using the browsers print to PS functionaliy also add pagination that is not desired, and continuous form printing export doesn't exist. How would you suggest to solve this task? CLI utilities are welcome - the less interaction, the better. It doesn't matter if the result is a 800x1 px image with 300 px white margin left and right. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Webpage screenshot
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: I'm searching for a simple way to create a screenshot from a web page, i. e. convert the rendered page into a PNG (or something similar) graphic format. This is intended to be used for usability and design visualization where different components of the web page can be colored using Gimp to show their structure by inking the different elements. The idea of taking a screenshot from the web browser may look sufficient at first, but it is problematic when the web page doesn't fit horizontally or vertically. This sometimes doesn't even work when using the browser in total fullscreen (which is 1400x1050 or 2800x1050 here). Using the browsers print to PS functionaliy also add pagination that is not desired, and continuous form printing export doesn't exist. How would you suggest to solve this task? CLI utilities are welcome - the less interaction, the better. It doesn't matter if the result is a 800x1 px image with 300 px white margin left and right. :-) If you're using Firefox, the Fireshot addin does exactly this kind of thing. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: I never stated than anyone should be denied the right to create or write basically whatever they so desire; however, if they are going to piggyback their work on another author or developer's works, then that individual deserves to receive compensation. The point here is that an INDIVIDUAL deserves compensation. Whether some mega corp with a huge portfolio of patents deserves the same is to be questioned. Especially considering that those huge mega corps use those patents to stomp all over the little (programmer) guy and destroy his little livelihood. That's what patents were initially designed to prevent: that some predatory industrial magnate would steal the idea of the little inventor to make a profit, without compensating the inventor for his ideas. Sadly, this principle (protecting the little inventors) has been turned upside-down due to the abysmal performance of the Patent Office examiners who rubber stamping just about every patent application with the words machinery for ... in it. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Webpage screenshot
On Sunday 05 August 2012 19:41:38 Polytropon wrote: The idea of taking a screenshot from the web browser may look sufficient at first, but it is problematic when the web page doesn't fit horizontally or vertically snip How would you suggest to solve this task? How about the Pixlr Grabber extension for Firefox. You can specify the entire page, an area defined with the mouse or just the visible area and save the result to a .PNG file or copy it to the clipboard to paste directly into the Gimp. -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Webpage screenshot
Hi all, On 05.08.2012 20:41, Polytropon wrote: [website to picture cli] google search comes up with http://code.google.com/p/wkhtmltopdf/ which also provides a download called wkhtmltoimage ... which in turn seems to be what you want. cheers, frank\ -- 43rd Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr fortune: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Webpage screenshot
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: I'm searching for a simple way to create a screenshot from a web page, i. e. convert the rendered page into a PNG (or something similar) graphic format. This is intended to be used for usability and design visualization where different components of the web page can be colored using Gimp to show their structure by inking the different elements. The idea of taking a screenshot from the web browser may look sufficient at first, but it is problematic when the web page doesn't fit horizontally or vertically. This sometimes doesn't even work when using the browser in total fullscreen (which is 1400x1050 or 2800x1050 here). Using the browsers print to PS functionaliy also add pagination that is not desired, and continuous form printing export doesn't exist. How would you suggest to solve this task? CLI utilities are welcome - the less interaction, the better. It doesn't matter if the result is a 800x1 px image with 300 px white margin left and right. :-) I'm still using xwd(1) to grab a window (using -frame to add the decoration of the window manager) here, and convert it then to .png with the Gimp. Of course, I take care of displaying just the interesting part of the web page that I need by scrolling to the interesting part. If you need a complete snapshot of the page, you may try this: open Firefox with some insane big -geometry settings, perhaps to a big virtual screen in X; and then grab that whole window with xwd(1). I didn't try that, but it may be enough. If your X server won't handle this big a screen, try with a nesting server like x11-servers/xorg-nestserver. Good luck! Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
El 05/08/12 06:22, Wojciech Puchar escribió: Hi Ashkan, I think that XFS JFS are more mature filesystems than ZFS, but the feature set of ZFS i ahead in the future. For a NFS server first I'll go with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the differentiator. true. it is consistently slow. REALLY from what tale do you people get such a statements. There is no tale, only a feature set: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zfs#Features Look at L2ARC and ZIL to improve ZFS speed. it's far better to just put manually heavily used things to SSD. Yes ! That's what actually ZFS do with SSD put the most used elements on it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
El 05/08/12 13:03, Wojciech Puchar escribió: I think that XFS JFS are more mature filesystems than ZFS, but the feature set of ZFS i ahead in the future. For a NFS server first I'll go with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the differentiator. The idea that ZFS is faster than XFS is certainly a new one for me. Do is ZFS supposed to be faster at all? really - stick with FreeBSD UFS. it is really best. Yes UFS is very good, but very hight IO ZFS is fastest if you use L2ARC/ZIL on SSD. There is no doubt in the benefits of SSD on the fileservers (SMB, NFS,etc.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
really - stick with FreeBSD UFS. it is really best. Yes UFS is very good, but very hight IO ZFS is fastest if you use L2ARC/ZIL on SSD. if... better just move heavy used things on SSD and rest on HDD. really it's fastest. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the differentiator. true. it is consistently slow. REALLY from what tale do you people get such a statements. There is no tale, only a feature set: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zfs#Features And everything everyone writes is always true. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:33:20 -0400 Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:48:56 -0400 Robert Huff articulated: [Snip] The socialists still feel they are entitled to something for nothing. Jerry; Forgive me for barging in like this but to me, what your sentence describes is just plain good old greedy people. Patents provided the perfect LEGAL way for these very people to make theirs, an idea that they didn't think of or had the gift/talent to create, as a quickie for profit. The result: Now the long patent arm reaches fruit, seeds and DNA. This means that I can't create a Graviola juice drink (local Brazilian fruit) because a Japanese guy patented the fruit !! How ridiculous did we allowed this to get? On a final note, if your sentence were to reflect a little better the idea of socialism (at least on paper), it should read: The socialists still feel that everybody is entitled to something for nothing. Unfortunately today, socialism, democracy, communism or liberalism are mere skins for hungry wolves. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
I think that XFS JFS are more mature filesystems than ZFS This is not up for discussion. but the feature set of ZFS i ahead in the future. Too many iPads, iPhones, etc? For a NFS server first I'll go with ZFS because the consistence in disk If not spelling, or grammar... and speed will gonna be the differentiator. A high-school education may well have been the differentiator, but that's not important right now. Journaling filesystems are not known for speed. EXT2 will probably outperform ZFS as far as NFS servers go. -- Speed Will Gonna Be The Differentiator ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
questions on the use of moused for Xorg
when you must use the parameter -z of moused? I had an Apple Mighty Mouse and I would like to use the track ball (the wheel part) The driver UMS detects the Z Axis and the Wheel [XYZW] ums0: Mitsumi Electric Apple Optical USB Mouse, class 0/0, rev 1.10/1.08, addr 4 on usbus1 ums0: 4 buttons and [XYZW] coordinates ID=0 When I run this command /usr/sbin/moused -f -d -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid moused reports movements in XYZ (dx dy dz) but not W (dz?), in Xorg the scroll (vertical) works OK (xev reports events for button 4 and 5), but no horizontal (xev doesn't report anything) When I run this command /usr/sbin/moused -f -d -z 4 5 6 7 -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid moused reports movements in XY (dx dy) but not ZW (dz), for Z now reports buttons 4 and 5 pressed, in Xorg the scroll (vertical) does not work (xev reports events for button 8 and 9), and no horizontal (xev doesn't report anything) Here is the mouse part of my x11-input.fdi file match key=info.capabilities contains=input.mouse merge key=input.x11_options.Protocol type=stringSysMouse/merge merge key=input.x11_options.Emulate3Buttons type=stringOff/merge merge key=input.x11_options.Buttons type=string8/merge /match But in Xorg.0.log I see conflicts with the configuration, the lines that begin with (**) Apple Optical USB Mouse:, where they come from? (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null) (II) config/hal: Adding input device Apple Optical USB Mouse (II) LoadModule: mouse (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.5.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 (**) Option Protocol SysMouse (**) Apple Optical USB Mouse: Device: /dev/sysmouse (**) Apple Optical USB Mouse: Protocol: SysMouse (**) Apple Optical USB Mouse: always reports core events (**) Option Device /dev/sysmouse (**) Option BaudRate 1200 (**) Option StopBits 2 (**) Option DataBits 8 (**) Option Parity None (**) Option Vmin 1 (**) Option Vtime 0 (**) Option FlowControl None (**) Option Buttons 8 (**) Option Emulate3Buttons Off (**) Apple Optical USB Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Apple Optical USB Mouse: Buttons: 12 (**) Apple Optical USB Mouse: Sensitivity: 1 (**) Apple Optical USB Mouse: BaudRate: 1200 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Apple Optical USB Mouse (type: MOUSE) (**) Apple Optical USB Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 (**) Apple Optical USB Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compare zfs xfs and jfs o
--As of August 5, 2012 10:29:16 AM -0600, Chad Perrin is alleged to have said: I think that XFS JFS are more mature filesystems than ZFS, but the feature set of ZFS i ahead in the future. For a NFS server first I'll go with ZFS because the consistence in disk and speed will gonna be the differentiator. The idea that ZFS is faster than XFS is certainly a new one for me. Do you have some benchmarks for that? --As for the rest, it is mine. Particularly in this use-case: From my reading ZFS has a performance hit when used as a base filesystem for NFS. (Largely because it insists on *actually following* the NFS spec, and not taking some shortcuts that are common elsewhere...) Not that I have tested that, even on my NFS server. (Which runs ZFS - there are other excellent reasons to use it, and speed isn't a major concern for that particular box.) Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
