Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports
Hi, I'm following the recipe at the end of man portmaster for deleting and reinstalling all my ports, which I have done many times in the past. This time, I am getting errors on the portmaster -Faf step involving deleted ports, and I'm not sure how to deal with this easily. What errors, exactly? Well, for example: portmaster -Faf it starts to fetch a bunch of files it finds a port which has been deleted, such as linux-base-fc4 and it says, linux-base-fc4 has been deleted. terminating terminating terminating etc. So, I am seeking expert advice here. Is there a way to automate this and keep myself out of trouble, or do I need to do a 'port-by-port' upgrade of each port? It should just work. Have you converted to pkgng? I dream of the day that the ports system will just work. I don't use binary packages, are you saying that pkgng will deal with this issue automatically? Thanks, Scott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: I'm following the recipe at the end of man portmaster for deleting and reinstalling all my ports, which I have done many times in the past. This time, I am getting errors on the portmaster -Faf step involving deleted ports, and I'm not sure how to deal with this easily. What errors, exactly? Well, for example: portmaster -Faf it starts to fetch a bunch of files it finds a port which has been deleted, such as linux-base-fc4 and it says, linux-base-fc4 has been deleted. terminating terminating terminating etc. That's correct. linux_base-fc4 is long gone (years), replaced by linux_base-f10. portmaster sees no way to upgrade that port, so evidently it quits. If you have ports that far out of date, the upgrade process is going to be long. Ports where the system does not know the replacement will have to be handled manually. So, I am seeking expert advice here. Is there a way to automate this and keep myself out of trouble, or do I need to do a 'port-by-port' upgrade of each port? It should just work. Have you converted to pkgng? I dream of the day that the ports system will just work. I don't use binary packages, are you saying that pkgng will deal with this issue automatically? No, the concern was that you might have already converted to pkgng but still used the old package tools. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports
On Mon, 14 oct 2013, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: What errors, exactly? Well, for example: portmaster -Faf it starts to fetch a bunch of files it finds a port which has been deleted, such as linux-base-fc4 and it says, linux-base-fc4 has been deleted. terminating terminating terminating etc. That's correct. linux_base-fc4 is long gone (years), replaced by linux_base-f10. portmaster sees no way to upgrade that port, so evidently it quits. I understand why portmaster quits that port. It does seem like a bit of over-kill to quit updating ALL ports because one is long gone. Seems like it could do the others. If you have ports that far out of date, the upgrade process is going to be long. Ports where the system does not know the replacement will have to be handled manually. Actually, the last time I updated my ports was when I installed 9.0, and I used the portmaster 'nuke all ports' method I was trying to day. Since then, several dozen ports of been 'deleted' or 'renamed', not just the linux_base-fc4. Seems in the case of ports which have been renamed or replaced, this could in fact be simply automated in most cases. Best, Scott -- s...@ssr.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Scott Ballantyne s...@ssr.com wrote: I understand why portmaster quits that port. Because it has no choice. It does seem like a bit of over-kill to quit updating ALL ports because one is long gone. Seems like it could do the others. So it should continue on and potentially build 1000's of ports with broken linking and dependencies? Portupgrade will do this if you tell it. Try it out and see what fun you can create. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: On Mon, 14 oct 2013, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: What errors, exactly? Well, for example: portmaster -Faf it starts to fetch a bunch of files it finds a port which has been deleted, such as linux-base-fc4 and it says, linux-base-fc4 has been deleted. terminating terminating terminating etc. That's correct. linux_base-fc4 is long gone (years), replaced by linux_base-f10. portmaster sees no way to upgrade that port, so evidently it quits. I understand why portmaster quits that port. It does seem like a bit of over-kill to quit updating ALL ports because one is long gone. Seems like it could do the others. Some of them. It could not update any ports that depend on missing ports, which conflicts with the -a meaning all. If you have ports that far out of date, the upgrade process is going to be long. Ports where the system does not know the replacement will have to be handled manually. Actually, the last time I updated my ports was when I installed 9.0, and I used the portmaster 'nuke all ports' method I was trying to day. Since then, several dozen ports of been 'deleted' or 'renamed', not just the linux_base-fc4. Seems in the case of ports which have been renamed or replaced, this could in fact be simply automated in most cases. I think it does handle renamed ports. Whether the ones it does not handle are due to missing functionality or because they are difficult or impossible to handle, don't know. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports
Adam Vande More wrote: It does seem like a bit of over-kill to quit updating ALL ports because one is long gone. Seems like it could do the others. So it should continue on and potentially build 1000's of ports with broken linking and dependencies? Portupgrade will do this if you tell it. Try it out and see what fun you can create. Not a single program on my system depended on that program being rebuilt. Portmaster should certainly refuse to rebuild anything that did, of course. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports
On Mon 14 Oct 2013 Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: On Mon, 14 oct 2013, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: Actually, the last time I updated my ports was when I installed 9.0, and I used the portmaster 'nuke all ports' method I was trying to day. Since then, several dozen ports of been 'deleted' or 'renamed', not just the linux_base-fc4. Seems in the case of ports which have been renamed or replaced, this could in fact be simply automated in most cases. I think it does handle renamed ports. Whether the ones it does not handle are due to missing functionality or because they are difficult or impossible to handle, don't know. Such was not my experience, Warren. And actually, a google search while I was trying to solve this turned up many reports of the same problem over the past years. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Scott Ballantyne s...@ssr.com wrote: Adam Vande More wrote: It does seem like a bit of over-kill to quit updating ALL ports because one is long gone. Seems like it could do the others. So it should continue on and potentially build 1000's of ports with broken linking and dependencies? Portupgrade will do this if you tell it. Try it out and see what fun you can create. Not a single program on my system depended on that program being rebuilt. And what about libs it may have left behind and other ports picking up faulty info? Then you build unsupported and faultly packages and complain to the list when something doesn't work. Just follow /usr/ports/UPDATING as advised instead of your shortcuts. Portmaster should certainly refuse to rebuild anything that did, of course. Exactly what it did. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: Hi, I'm following the recipe at the end of man portmaster for deleting and reinstalling all my ports, which I have done many times in the past. This time, I am getting errors on the portmaster -Faf step involving deleted ports, and I'm not sure how to deal with this easily. What errors, exactly? So, I am seeking expert advice here. Is there a way to automate this and keep myself out of trouble, or do I need to do a 'port-by-port' upgrade of each port? It should just work. Have you converted to pkgng? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
