[Gendergap] This weekend: Edit-a-thon under CPH:DOX
Hi all! Tomorrow there will be a feminist edit-a-thon as part of the Copenhagen International Documentary Festival. It is heavily inspired by the edit-a-thon that was arranged on March 8-9, and we expect to have a blast. Links: http://cphdox.dk/program/film/?id=3330 https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:We_Can_Edit-a-thon_K%C3%B8benhavn_7._november_2015 https://www.facebook.com/events/490818174411220/ The event will be primarily in Danish. Regards, Ole -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] We Can [Edit]! in Copenhagen
Yesterday and the day before yesterday, we had an event in Copenhagen. The event page is https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:We_can_edit-a-thon_K%C3%B8benhavn_2015, and the resulting articles (including a few expansions) are listed in the section Oprettede og opdaterede artikler. It was very cool. We should totally do it again. -Ole -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Danish seminar/editathon
Today, http://kvinfo.dk/om-kvinfo/skriv-ligestilling-ind-i-wikipedia happened, and results are on https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Skriv_ligestilling_ind_i_Wikipedia and blogged at http://astridmaria.dk/2014/10/skriv-ligestillingen-ind-i-wikipedia/ It was very good. -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Danish seminar/workshop/edit-a-thon
On October 4th, there will be a seminar at KVINFO (the Danish Centre for Gender, Equality and Ethnicity): http://kvinfo.dk/om-kvinfo/skriv-ligestilling-ind-i-wikipedia (title, translated: write equality into Wikipedia). Regards, Ole ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Minor explosion on dawiki
You never know with allergies - it could be a recent development :-) More seriously: I guess pink is given the connotations of cutesy, little-girl-donesn't-know-a-thing and such. -Ole On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: And here is Sanne wearing pink badges -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/7405752@N06/2513156755/in/photolist-4Q5zWT-4Q9PEs And here is Sanne standing directly next to some big arsed pink balloons -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/7405752@N06/2513983346/in/photolist-4Q9PEs I am guessing that she isn't the one with the problem with pink? If so, *facepalm* On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen o...@palnatoke.org wrote: Yesterday, stand up comedienne Sanne Søndergaard* ** noticed Wikipedia for kvinder***, dawiki's portal for women, and her reaction was WTF? The discussion on Facebook has had its ups and downs. One particular down is a lot of name-calling amongst the women in the discussion. It appears, however, that some people are allergic to pink, and that some people find the text condescending and patronising. The kerfluffle has caused quite a lot of views on the portal - on ordinary days, it has ~20-30 hits; yesterday 5159. * Oh, and at WikiWednesday the day after tomorrow, we'll probably talk about pinkness and stuff.** Regards, Ole *) http://solosanne.dk/ **) https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanne_S%C3%B8ndergaard ***) https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_for_kvinder ) https://www.facebook.com/SanneSonder/posts/609718455741119 *) http://stats.grok.se/da/latest90/Wikipedia:Wikipedia%20for%20kvinder **) https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiWednesday/2013#Oktober -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Minor explosion on dawiki
Oh yes, sladre is gossiping, and it is something done by airheads and women (stereotypically speaking). In other contexts, it also means telling on someone. On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: Sladre om de andre brugere Bwahahahahaha, if that's not reinforcing stereotypes, what is? :) For those of you too afraid to try it at home, Google Translate rendered this as Gossip about other editors. (Or something to that effect). Then again, does the Danish word Sladre have the negative connotations that both that translation and its apparent similarity to slander would suggest? We may be missing something here. Daniel Case __**_ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/gendergaphttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects
Wow. I copied the list to Danish Wikipedia (but didn't save - only preview), and *one* link turned blue there: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilde_Bajer Feel free to translate it. :) Ole On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dsp13/Redlinks/Women Not sure if anyone's seen that...but O_o Get to work! ;) Sar -- -- *Sarah Stierch* *Museumist, open culture advocate, and Wikimedian* *www.sarahstierch.com* ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Category:Nude portrayals of computer technology
http://toolserver.org/~magnus/glamorous.php?doit=Do+it!category=Nude+portrayals+of+computer+technologyshould answer George's question. It takes a while loading and it isn't worksafe - unless you can get away with thumbnails -Ole. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 1:10 AM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote: I'm at work and can't really get away with looking at the gallery images from here without trouble. However... Has anyone looked at them to see where (if anywhere) they are in use on projects? -george On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure EVula knew that Commoners wouldn't abide his deletion of their fap galleries. They've never liked it much before, and this gallery is even nerdy! Double whammy. The uploader freaked out with inspiring rapidity. The arguments given in a previous deletion review are instructive; only the most mechanical reading of the project scope policy, in the way most charitable to retaining pornographic collections, were even considered. The closer said, paraphrasing: Pornographic? Sure, don't care. Objectifies women? Sure, don't care. Not useful on another Wikimedia project? Sure, don't care. It was on Flickr, so they must have consented to publication on Commons, case closed. ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] How Collective Power can be abused on Wikimedia Projects
I would probably have begun with creating an article in Danish. We have one red link to [[Bjarne O. Henriksen]], and could probably have two more, and I guess he may border on notability on dawiki for his writing. I never heard of his music, but I won't blame him for that :) Regards, Ole On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: Hi all, yesterday I had that discussion on #wikimedia-en-help where I (= rindolf) tried to help someone (I think he was a guy, but it doesn't matter) with getting his article for review accepted: Helpmebot Hi Referenced99, welcome to the help channel for the English Wikipedia! Move the cursor to the input area at the bottom of the window, type your question and press Enter, and a helper should be around shortly to answer your questions. If your question is about a particular page please make sure your question includes the URL or name of the page in question. Referenced99 I need very detailed instructions about why this page keeps getting rejected because of 'unreliable sources' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bjarnmar/sandbox. Even the wiki page for sterling silver says at the top that some of its sources need to be verified - but it was still allowed to be a page, so? Hersfold just because some pages have issues doesn't mean we should allow them to spread Referenced99 And i have used sources such as Variety, and when they said it was not proven his music really existed i put the acutal link to where it is in different parts of the world and that's still not enough? Referenced99 But that's just it Hersfold - what are the issues with this page? i have even used some references that were accepted on other pages related to his work but they were rejected in this case? Hersfold I'm a bit occupied and don't really have time to look myself, but someone else may be around Hersfold !helper MJ94 ues? MJ94 yes? Referenced99 How is Danmarks Radio, the largest TV station in Denmark, an unreliable source when I link to his work and credits on their site? MJ94 Referenced99: one sec MJ94 Referenced99: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Rs Referenced99 Sorry to bother you Herford...have a nice Saturday MJ94 Referenced99: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Imdb#IMDb IMDB is generally not a reliable source. Referenced99 Yes, MJ94 I have seen that page and I still don't understand - and I only use IMDB as an Additional Link but every one of the links above it are genuine lnks to professional pages that have or reference his work? Referenced99 Politiken is one of the largest newspapers in the country, and I referenced them, Variety is known and used as a reference - I really don't understand the problem? Referenced99 The British Film Institute site is also used as as reference - so what is wrong? I am really trying to understand Referenced99 But could someone please look at the page and tell me what is wrong with the references I have now? Then I could better understand, it would be more specific, please? rindolf Referenced99: where is the page again? Referenced99 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bjarnmar/sandbox rindolf Referenced99: ah, well, it should be more a biography. Referenced99 Thank you, rindolf, I would appreciate your help. I have looked at the general guide but I still don't understand what is wrong with my references rindolf Referenced99: like other biography of living people. Referenced99 Just a moment, reading you... rindolf Referenced99: reading what? Referenced99 So what do I do differently i thought that was what I had done (I meant reading your reply) Referenced99 I never did this before... Referenced99 I thought this was a biography page... rindolf Referenced99: see for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Wall rindolf Well, that may not be a good one. rindolf Let's see. rindolf Referenced99: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Hathaway Referenced99 Ok, i see that page, my page also starts with his name and where he was born and goes on to his accomplishments - what am I missing? Referenced99 Looking at the hathaway page now... rindolf Referenced99: OK. rindolf Referenced99: your page reads too much like a resume. Referenced99 Yes, and except for the absence of a pic can you please tell me spefically what I need to do that I haven't already done? rindolf I mean a C.V. rindolf Referenced99: structure it more like a biography. rindolf Referenced99: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons Referenced99 well, in the earlier version it was more like the hathaway but it was criticized, so like they said i went to pages of some other composers and they had it more simply prominent works etc like i do now ... rindolf Referenced99: ah, this reminds me of
[Gendergap] Breast cancer vs. Gangnam Style
My friend Peter just tweeted* Den engelske wikipedia-artikel om Gangnam
Style er både længere og har over dobbelt så mange kilder som artiklen om
brystkræft. ('the English Wikipedia article on Gangnam style is longer and
has more than twice as many references as the article on breast cancer').
He's right ** ***. Will someone please make him wrong?
TIA,
Ole
*) https://twitter.com/peterbrodersen/status/282539324396953602
**) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangnam_Style
***) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_cancer
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Re: [Gendergap] Breast cancer vs. Gangnam Style
Thank you, Risker.
Measuring article length can be rather meaningless in a hyperlinked medium.
:-)
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
We have a saying on English Wikipedia: Other stuff exists[1], which
emphasizes that the importance or significance of one article should not be
judged by comparing it to another article. It is a logical fallacy that,
because one article is longer, or has more references, or better images,
etc., that another article is substandard.
In this case, the comparison of these two articles shows that the breast
cancer article is very well referenced for its subject using top quality
references; it is well written and covers every aspect of the subject in
depth. There are many daughter articles, as well.
The Gangnam Style article is loaded with templated charts illustrating
press reaction in dozens of countries, awards won, chart positions in just
about as many - all of which have a large number of references, as each
individual entry must be verifiable. It is not terribly well written, with
little differentiation between significant facts and trivia, and most of
the templated information should probably be broken out into daughter
articles.
Which is the better article? The breast cancer one, by far. Just because
it's not as long as another article that has far too much trivia in it,
doesn't mean it isn't the superior article.
Risker/Anne
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Other_stuff_exists
On 22 December 2012 12:46, Ole Palnatoke Andersen o...@palnatoke.orgwrote:
My friend Peter just tweeted* Den engelske wikipedia-artikel om Gangnam
Style er både længere og har over dobbelt så mange kilder som artiklen om
brystkræft. ('the English Wikipedia article on Gangnam style is longer and
has more than twice as many references as the article on breast cancer').
He's right ** ***. Will someone please make him wrong?
TIA,
Ole
*) https://twitter.com/peterbrodersen/status/282539324396953602
**) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangnam_Style
***) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_cancer
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[Gendergap] GirlsInTech Pick Their Top 100 Women In Tech In Europe
I know that inclusion in a list like this does not guarantee notability, but you might want to check how many of these women have articles on your wiki: http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/01/girlsintech-pick-their-top-100-women-in-tech-in-europe/ Regards, Ole -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Dell held their annual summit this week in Europe. They hired a moderator for the opening day named Mads Christensen who is a media personality that is described as very conservative and this also is regarding his views towards women. Excerpts from a blog by a woman who attended... When Christiane posted this on Twitter, Dell lost quite a bit of goodwill in the Danish Twittersphere. Regards, Ole -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] English Wiki convo about WHM
Oh... I scanned WHM as 'Wiki Hates Monuments'... oops. :) Ole Den 15/02/2012 17.54 skrev Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com: Hi everyone, Some conversation is taking place on the talk page for WikiWomen's History Month, you might find something of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiWomen%27s_History_Month Also, the main page has some new events offline and online added!!! I hope you'll feel inspired to take the lead in your town, city, or country and plan something. Anything I can do to help, let me know. Sarah -- *Sarah Stierch* *Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow* Support the sharing of free knowledge around the world: donate todayhttps://donate.wikimedia.org/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Disney Princesses fun..
which isn't really that funny. George Takei posted an excellent illustration of Disney Princesses on Facebook (you can also see the image at http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RmuZP-qViKM/TrYM8ZtFG-I/AFc/NO-hvW5Vvw8/s1600/disneyprincessparade.jpg until someone removes it).. I reposted it. If you know me on FB, feel free to re-repost it. -Ole -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Disney Princesses fun..
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Caroline - What do you mean in regards to being on gender-...@wikimedia.org? I guess Caroline meant that the post was off-topic. It was. Now all please go back to your regular business. -Ole -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] A translation request
I compiled a small article about FastCompany.com's Most Influential Women in Technology. Most or all of these women are notable, I guess - they are on the list for a reason... http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/FastCompany.com%27s_Most_Influential_Women_in_Technology - it is in Danish, but should be fairly readable. Regards, Ole -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: ... What really bothers me is the before image shows a woman within a normal range, yet we are presenting this as something in need of surgery. I'm concerned that young women could stumble on this and start to doubt themselves. Somewhat related: The most well-known Danish woman's self-awareness book, [[da:Kvinde, kend din krop]] was originally published in 1975, and has been revised several times since. This year, the group behind the book opened a photo booth in order to collect images of the diversity of female genitalia. Have a look at it at http://kvindekenddinkrop.dk/ - use your favourite translation service if you don't read Danish (no, there are no genitalia on the front page - the link 'BILLEDERNE' will take you there). Regards, Ole -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Hairdresser, hairstylist...barber?
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: I searched for hairdresser and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture. Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd... Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last pre-merger version (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresseroldid=238820338) over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject? Regards, Ole -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
