[Gendergap] Awareness of gender gap at Olympics

2012-07-30 Thread Risker
While this does not directly relate to the Wikimedia gender gap issues, I
thought many on this list would find the attached news article, which
appeared in The National Post (a Canadian Toronto/national newspaper) , to
be of interest.  Perhaps we can draw some lessons from it, in particular
the treatment of women/women's issues as less important than men/men's
issues.

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/07/29/london-2012-steps-toward-gender-equality-steps-backward-at-olympics/

Risker/Anne
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Re: [Gendergap] Awareness of gender gap at Olympics

2012-07-30 Thread Laura Hale
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

 While this does not directly relate to the Wikimedia gender gap issues, I
 thought many on this list would find the attached news article, which
 appeared in The National Post (a Canadian Toronto/national newspaper) , to
 be of interest.  Perhaps we can draw some lessons from it, in particular
 the treatment of women/women's issues as less important than men/men's
 issues.


 http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/07/29/london-2012-steps-toward-gender-equality-steps-backward-at-olympics/

 Risker/Anne



Regarding the bit about Australia's basketball team: My understanding from
talking to people inside Australia's basketball community of why the women
went economy plus instead of business class was an issue if priorities.
The Australian women spent the money on development and practicing and
playing together as a team.  They were in training camps two to three
months out.  Lauren Jackson did not play with her professional team in the
USA for the part of the season in order to dedicate herself better to the
chase for gold.

Did you hear any stories about how Patrick Mills left the NBA early in
order to spend more time training with the national team in order to try to
get gold?  No.  Of course not.  The men are not expected to win gold.  They
don't want to hold early training camps.  No one expects them to win even
medal.  The Australian question should be: Why are we even bothering to
send the men?   They should sit home.  The Australian media largely does
not care about them.

The bigger Australian gender stories are actually Michelle Jenneke's butt
jiggle, (which ironically, the USA paid more attention to then Australia)
and Leisel Jones fat story, which was a very deliberate story on the part
of the Australian media.  Media watch shows how this story was crafted:
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s3556770.htm/

That said, Wikipedia's main page has generally been dominated by female
Olympians instead of male Olympians on Did You Know.  If you want to submit
for DYK about women, I highly urge you to.  It is one of the best ways to
highlight topics that might otherwise get overlooked because of systematic
bias.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

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Re: [Gendergap] Awareness of gender gap at Olympics

2012-07-30 Thread Ryan Kaldari

On 7/30/12 2:14 PM, Laura Hale wrote:
Did you hear any stories about how Patrick Mills left the NBA early in 
order to spend more time training with the national team in order to 
try to get gold?  No.  Of course not. The men are not expected to win 
gold.  They don't want to hold early training camps.  No one expects 
them to win even medal.  The Australian question should be: Why are we 
even bothering to send the men?   They should sit home.  The 
Australian media largely does not care about them.


sarcasmOf course they have to send the men! They're the ones that 
really count. And why aren't the women wearing skirts like they're 
supposed to!/sarcasm


The bigger Australian gender stories are actually Michelle Jenneke's 
butt jiggle, (which ironically, the USA paid more attention to then 
Australia) and Leisel Jones fat story, which was a very deliberate 
story on the part of the Australian media. Media watch shows how this 
story was crafted: 
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s3556770.htm/


Reminds me of the U.S. obsession with the appearance of female 
politicians, e.g. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Michelle_Obama%27s_arms


That said, Wikipedia's main page has generally been dominated by 
female Olympians instead of male Olympians on Did You Know.  If you 
want to submit for DYK about women, I highly urge you to.  It is one 
of the best ways to highlight topics that might otherwise get 
overlooked because of systematic bias.


Thanks for the tip. I did a couple of female athlete articles recently, 
but forgot to DYK them :(


Ryan Kaldari

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