Re: [Gendergap] c*nt talk

2014-07-28 Thread Carol Moore dc
FYI. The C word discussion was prompted by the now closed WP:AN 
discussion mentioned previously.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Where_and_how_to_request_a_Civility_board

On 7/27/2014 7:51 PM, Kathleen McCook wrote:
These words do cause concern..this is an interesting essay on Bill 
Maher's use of the word...and the author ends by stating:
Someone as clever as Maher, who writes and talks for a living, also 
probably has other words in his vocabulary that he could use, if he 
needs to express his contempt for Sarah Palin---words that aren't 
inherently misogynistic, words that don't demean other women in the 
process of discussing a particular woman.

...
Just searching around found this interesting paper:
http://www.tpettijohn.net/academic/Livosky%20Pettijohn%20Capo%20%282011%29%20-%20Reducing%20Sexist%20Attitudes.pdf
PSYCHOLOGY AND EDUCATION -- AN INTERDISCIPLINARY JOURNAL
Reducing Sexist Attitudes as a Result of Completing an Undergraduate 
Psychology of Gender Course


Now what positive incentives can we offer to get some of these guys to 
take some sort of online course that they or we or someone could put 
together.  A really great barnstar??
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[Gendergap] c*nt talk

2014-07-27 Thread Kathleen McCook
These words do cause concern..this is an interesting essay on Bill Maher's
use of the word...and the author ends by stating:
Someone as clever as Maher, who writes and talks for a living, also
probably has other words in his vocabulary that he could use, if he needs
to express his contempt for Sarah Palin—words that aren't inherently
misogynistic, words that don't demean other women in the process of
discussing a particular woman.

I challenge him to use those words, and prove to us he's actually as smart
a guy as he thinks he is.

[more here]
Last week, I mentioned
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2011/03/observation_23.html that
Bill Maher had called Sarah Palin a dumb twat on his show. On the next
episode, he called
http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/26/maher-strikes-again-bachmann-and-palin-two-bimbos/
Palin
and Rep. Michele Bachmann bimbos. Then, Sunday night, during a comedy
show in Dallas, he reportedly
http://www.dallasvoice.com/maher-your-beautiful-theater-gonna-long-1070487.html
called
Sarah Palin a cunt, because there's just no other word for her.
​
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/542786/unacceptable%3A_sexist_bill_maher_calls_sarah_palin_the_c-word
​


On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Michael J. Lowrey orangem...@gmail.com
wrote:

 My British contacts insist that the term cunt as an insult is not
 sexist in usage or intent. Vulgar, but not sexist.


 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 4:02 PM, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote:
  One of my hurdles as an editor is incivility: a deficiency of it in
 others
  and, according to some of them, too much of it in me - or too much
  sensitivity. I started a discussion Where and how to request a Civility
  board
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Where_and_how_to_request_a_Civility_board
  and there seems to be some strong resistance to the idea.
 
  Disappointingly, but perhaps not surprisingly, the third person to reply
  dragged gender into it, with this comment:
 
  Besides, the easiest way to avoid being called a cunt is not to act
  like one.
 
  I would surely like some feedback - here and there - about this.
 
  Lightbreather
 
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