Re: A little incubator game

2023-04-04 Thread Justin Mclean
HI,

> I liked your original version better. This version never offers to make a 
> frickin’ release.

I changed it so that making a release was easier, it may be that you didn’t 
have many active contributors/committers because a company stopped contributing 
to your project? It will tell you this happens but not adjust the number of 
committers.

> There are too many options now which makes this version of incubation too 
> complex.

Thanks for the feedback I’ll see if I can simplify that or group them.

Kind Regards,
Justin



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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Uniffle(Incubating) 0.7.0

2023-04-04 Thread Felix Cheung
+1 binding

- incubating in name
- signature and hash fine
- DISCLAIMER is fine
- LICENSE and NOTICE are fine
- No unexpected binary files
- All source files have ASF headers


On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 9:24 PM Liu Xun  wrote:

> +1 (binding) from me,
>
> I have checked the following items:
> - Incubating in name
> - LICENSE and NOTICE are fine
> - DISCLAIMER-WIP exists
> - All links are valid
> - No unexpected binary files
> - All ASF files have ASF headers
> - Can compile from source
>   `mvn clean install`
>
> Best regards
> Xun Liu
>
> On 2023/03/30 02:59:51 Junfan Zhang wrote:
> > Hello IPMC, This is an official vote for the Apache
> > Uniffle(Incubating) 0.7.0 that we have been working toward.
> >
> > To learn more about Apache Uniffle(Incubating), please see:
> >
> > https://uniffle.apache.org
> >
> > The Apache Uniffle (incubating) community has voted and approved the
> release.
> >
> > Vote thread:
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/f9yko759l24y30l7n098tgk56sdt1d33
> >
> > Result thread:
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/yrnql56fnkl453jhvo0wsbvfn98y2zg8
> >
> > Release changes:
> > Compared to 0.6.1, the most important features are as follows
> > 1. Better support for spark AQE
> > 2. Optimization of a huge partition to improve stability of shuffle
> servers
> > 3. More bug fixes and usability improvements of K8S operator
> > 4. Add support of user quota management and more compression algorithms
> > 5. Add support for the spark data eviction mechanism of stage level
> > 6. Some improvement of stability and performance
> >
> > And the detailed changelog could be found in
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/compare/v0.6.1..v0.7.0-rc4
> >
> >
> > The release candidates:
> >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/uniffle/0.7.0-rc4/
> >
> > Git tag for the release:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/tree/v0.7.0-rc4
> >
> > Release Commit ID:
> >
> > 4ffee9eb1efa17e2faa66b72472dcd1613886cc1
> >
> > Keys to verify the Release Candidate:
> >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/uniffle/KEYS
> >
> > GPG user ID:
> >
> > Junfan Zhang
> >
> > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary numbers
> > of votes are reached.
> >
> > Please vote accordingly:
> >
> > [ ] +1 approve
> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> >
> > Checklist for reference:
> >
> > * Download links, checksums and PGP signatures are valid.
> > * Source code distributions have correct names matching the current
> release.
> > * Release files have the word incubating in their name.
> > * DISCLAIMER, LICENSE and NOTICE files are correct.
> > * All files have license headers if necessary.
> > * No unlicensed compiled archives bundled in source archive.
> > * The source tarball matches the git tag.
> >
> > More detail checklist please refer:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Incubator+Release+Checklist
> >
> > The following votes are carried over from the Uniffle dev mailing list:
> >
> > +1(binding)
> > roryqi,
> > Meng Duan,
> > Xianjin Ye
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Junfan Zhang
> >
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Re: A little incubator game

2023-04-04 Thread Dave Fisher
I liked your original version better. This version never offers to make a 
frickin’ release. That ought to always be explicitly available. There are too 
many options now which makes this version of incubation too complex.

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> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:48 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I made a few improvements (you many need to to a shift refresh to get the 
> latest changes).
> 
> Justin
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Re: A little incubator game

2023-04-04 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

I made a few improvements (you many need to to a shift refresh to get the 
latest changes).

Justin
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Re: A little incubator game

2023-04-04 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

Internally the game tracks:
- Interest in the project
- Company committer membership. You'll note the starting message is slightly 
different depending on the company contributor mix you have. Mentors will also 
give you advice around the diversity of your committer base (in terms of 
belonging to a single company).
- Active committers
- Active contributors
- Progress towards the next release
- Bugs in the code base
- Number of interested users

All of these have some impact.

Possible end states for the incubator game include:
- Having no users
- Having no active committers
- Retiring due to lack of interest in the project
- Graduation

To graduate, you'll need to add 3 committers and make 3 releases.

The committer journey game [1] is a little more complex internally.

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. http://committer-journey.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com


Re: A little incubator game

2023-04-04 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

> I could not figure out how to make a release…


In order to make a release you need to work on the code creating features or 
fixing bugs. The more active committers you have you less time it takes to make 
a release. Depending on how you start out, the better strategy may be to 
generate interest to attract new committers, vote them in, or even lower the 
commuter bar to make it easier to attract committers rather than just producing 
new code.

Kind Regards,
Justin
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Re: A little incubator game

2023-04-04 Thread Josh Fischer
I came across the same issue today, Craig

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 6:21 PM Craig Russell  wrote:

> I could not figure out how to make a release...
>
> Craig
>
> > On Apr 3, 2023, at 19:25, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> >
> > A hint: Working on the code may not attract contribitors as quickly as
> some
> > other activities.
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, 11:51 am Josh Fischer,  wrote:
> >
> >> I haven’t gone through the game in detail yet, but I think it’s an
> >> interesting approach to getting people to understand the ways of the
> Apache
> >> foundation and incubator.
> >>
> >> My favorite part of the game is when you keep clicking on “work on the
> >> code” and the months pass by with no releases or new committers.
> >>
> >> Good thinking and +1 to you, Justin.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 5:07 PM Justin Mclean 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> A work in progress, so there may be spelling errors and bugs. Just like
> >> in
> >>> real life, the game ends when you stop playing it but things can happen
> >> to
> >>> you along the way.
> >>>
> >>> http://incubator-game.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com
> >>>
> >>> Made using an open source engine https://twinery.org, the output is
> >>> compatible with the Apache license if anyone was wondering.
> >>>
> >>> Feedback welcome.
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>> Justin
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> >>
>
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Re: A little incubator game

2023-04-04 Thread Craig Russell
I could not figure out how to make a release...

Craig

> On Apr 3, 2023, at 19:25, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> A hint: Working on the code may not attract contribitors as quickly as some
> other activities.
> 
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, 11:51 am Josh Fischer,  wrote:
> 
>> I haven’t gone through the game in detail yet, but I think it’s an
>> interesting approach to getting people to understand the ways of the Apache
>> foundation and incubator.
>> 
>> My favorite part of the game is when you keep clicking on “work on the
>> code” and the months pass by with no releases or new committers.
>> 
>> Good thinking and +1 to you, Justin.
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 5:07 PM Justin Mclean 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> A work in progress, so there may be spelling errors and bugs. Just like
>> in
>>> real life, the game ends when you stop playing it but things can happen
>> to
>>> you along the way.
>>> 
>>> http://incubator-game.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com
>>> 
>>> Made using an open source engine https://twinery.org, the output is
>>> compatible with the Apache license if anyone was wondering.
>>> 
>>> Feedback welcome.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Justin
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Re: A little incubator game

2023-04-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
This is amazeballs!

Thanks,
Roman.

P.S. Also "You have been incubating for 2.9004 months." LOL!

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 5:26 AM Justin Mclean  wrote:
>
> A hint: Working on the code may not attract contribitors as quickly as some
> other activities.
>
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, 11:51 am Josh Fischer,  wrote:
>
> > I haven’t gone through the game in detail yet, but I think it’s an
> > interesting approach to getting people to understand the ways of the Apache
> > foundation and incubator.
> >
> > My favorite part of the game is when you keep clicking on “work on the
> > code” and the months pass by with no releases or new committers.
> >
> > Good thinking and +1 to you, Justin.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 5:07 PM Justin Mclean 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > A work in progress, so there may be spelling errors and bugs. Just like
> > in
> > > real life, the game ends when you stop playing it but things can happen
> > to
> > > you along the way.
> > >
> > > http://incubator-game.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com
> > >
> > > Made using an open source engine https://twinery.org, the output is
> > > compatible with the Apache license if anyone was wondering.
> > >
> > > Feedback welcome.
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > > Justin
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