Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I’d be happy to play with the CSS, but I don’t see a way to target that cell. 
All I get are the sheet and the entry cell.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 8:05 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> Font handling in Gtk on MacOS is weird: Pango only calculates the layout for 
> computing box sizes. The actual glyph selection and layout is handled by 
> Cairo, and I don't think it knows how to use CoreText's font substitution. 
> WebKitGtk complicates matters by requiring the FreeType2 Pango backend as 
> well and that does its own font substitution. Regardless, pango is finding 
> the emojis so the test passes. Cairo isn't putting a missing glyph glyph 
> there like I'd expect. I haven't yet figured out why not.
> 
> I can think of two avenues to try: Simply forcing have_glyphs to false on 
> MacOS would display the regular letters. Not as pretty but it's sure to work. 
> A bit more difficult and in need of testing would be to use CSS to set the 
> font family for the Association cell to Apple Color Emojis on MacOS.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread John Ralls
Font handling in Gtk on MacOS is weird: Pango only calculates the layout for 
computing box sizes. The actual glyph selection and layout is handled by Cairo, 
and I don't think it knows how to use CoreText's font substitution. WebKitGtk 
complicates matters by requiring the FreeType2 Pango backend as well and that 
does its own font substitution. Regardless, pango is finding the emojis so the 
test passes. Cairo isn't putting a missing glyph glyph there like I'd expect. I 
haven't yet figured out why not.

I can think of two avenues to try: Simply forcing have_glyphs to false on MacOS 
would display the regular letters. Not as pretty but it's sure to work. A bit 
more difficult and in need of testing would be to use CSS to set the font 
family for the Association cell to Apple Color Emojis on MacOS.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jun 24, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I forgot to report back that after looking over the entire unicode 
> table, I can’t find anything suitable as replacement glyphs. (at least not 
> without a specialized typeface, which GnuCash would have to package)
> 
> So on Mac at least, we lose the ability to see there is an attachment or 
> location association.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 12:03 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I tried pasting them into a Notes field, they take up space, but do not 
>> display.
>> 
>> I fired up the GTKInspector to see if I could find a clue —no dice. CSS has 
>> no effect, and it is near impossible to target anything besides the register 
>> sheet as a whole, or the entry field. (and one can’t edit the attachment 
>> cell to focus it) I even tried changing the font to Apple Color Emoji and it 
>> still didn’t display.
>> 
>> So this might be a GTK-Mac emoji issue. (I can’t paste any emojis in, same 
>> result) Or if others on Mac can use and see emoji, then something is wrong 
>> with my setup.
>> 
>> But this failure to display also means the fall-back can’t be seen. GnuCash 
>> thinks it doesn’t need to fall-back, and puts the glyph there, but it shows 
>> up as simply a space and is invisible.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 10:57 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I tested this on a couple of Linux boxes and also on Windows and had no 
>>> trouble so maybe it is a Mac issue. Unfortunately I do not presently have 
>>> one so I do not know, maybe John might have an idea, the only ideas I have 
>>> is to set different code points for a paperclip and links for Mac's, 
>>> disable it for Macs or maybe change the test.
>>> 
>>> Adrien do you have likely candidates for those?
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 16:28, Adrien Monteleone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Those glyphs only show up for me in Character Viewer as ‘Apple Color 
>>> Emoji’. (thus not part of any regular typeface) Not sure how to get that 
>>> included in GnuCash if it isn’t there by default. Certainly, I don’t want 
>>> to change my default font to all emojis.
>>> 
>>> But that doesn’t explain the lack of fall back ‘f’ and ‘w’.
>>> 
>>> I had a custom CSS file for colors and font sizes, so I pulled that and 
>>> still the fall backs are not there.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Adrien
>>> 
 On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 7:38 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:
 
 Adrien,
 That is a bot surprising, there is a test for the glyphs in the font and 
 if not present should default to 'f' and 'w', code points are..
 #define GLYPH_PAPERCLIP "\360\237\223\216" // Codepoint U+1F4CE
 #define GLYPH_LINK  "\360\237\224\227" // Codepoint U+1F517
 
 
 Regards,
 Bob
>> 
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Sorry, I forgot to report back that after looking over the entire unicode 
table, I can’t find anything suitable as replacement glyphs. (at least not 
without a specialized typeface, which GnuCash would have to package)

So on Mac at least, we lose the ability to see there is an attachment or 
location association.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 12:03 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I tried pasting them into a Notes field, they take up space, but do not 
> display.
> 
> I fired up the GTKInspector to see if I could find a clue —no dice. CSS has 
> no effect, and it is near impossible to target anything besides the register 
> sheet as a whole, or the entry field. (and one can’t edit the attachment cell 
> to focus it) I even tried changing the font to Apple Color Emoji and it still 
> didn’t display.
> 
> So this might be a GTK-Mac emoji issue. (I can’t paste any emojis in, same 
> result) Or if others on Mac can use and see emoji, then something is wrong 
> with my setup.
> 
> But this failure to display also means the fall-back can’t be seen. GnuCash 
> thinks it doesn’t need to fall-back, and puts the glyph there, but it shows 
> up as simply a space and is invisible.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 10:57 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I tested this on a couple of Linux boxes and also on Windows and had no 
>> trouble so maybe it is a Mac issue. Unfortunately I do not presently have 
>> one so I do not know, maybe John might have an idea, the only ideas I have 
>> is to set different code points for a paperclip and links for Mac's, disable 
>> it for Macs or maybe change the test.
>> 
>> Adrien do you have likely candidates for those?
>> 
>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 16:28, Adrien Monteleone 
>>  wrote:
>> Those glyphs only show up for me in Character Viewer as ‘Apple Color Emoji’. 
>> (thus not part of any regular typeface) Not sure how to get that included in 
>> GnuCash if it isn’t there by default. Certainly, I don’t want to change my 
>> default font to all emojis.
>> 
>> But that doesn’t explain the lack of fall back ‘f’ and ‘w’.
>> 
>> I had a custom CSS file for colors and font sizes, so I pulled that and 
>> still the fall backs are not there.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 7:38 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Adrien,
>>> That is a bot surprising, there is a test for the glyphs in the font and if 
>>> not present should default to 'f' and 'w', code points are..
>>> #define GLYPH_PAPERCLIP "\360\237\223\216" // Codepoint U+1F4CE
>>> #define GLYPH_LINK  "\360\237\224\227" // Codepoint U+1F517
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Bob
> 


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

2020-06-24 Thread David H
Now now, we have some of the best dialup systems in the world in the
outback, no Covid either. I'm starting to buy into this whole 5g / Covid
conspiracy theory after all :-). Elon Musk's Starlink satellite's will fix
everything anyway !!!

Cheers David H (Not quite in the outback)


On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 07:11, D. via gnucash-devel <
gnucash-devel@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Exactly!
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: Derek Atkins 
> Sent: Wed Jun 24 16:54:26 EDT 2020
> To: "D." 
> Cc: "Frank H. Ellenberger" , Dawid Wrobel
> via gnucash-devel 
> Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote
> gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.
>
> Also if you are in the outback without connectivity to read the wiki you
> are definitely not going to have the connectivity to grab quotes!  LOL.
> -derek
>
> On Wed, June 24, 2020 3:54 pm, D. via gnucash-devel wrote:
> > Further : the user case for a user to be actually unable to access the
> > internet to consult the wiki is I think rather extreme. Inconvenient,
> > perhaps; maddeningly slow, even. But actually unavailable?
> >
> > Personally, I'm not sure how many transactions I would generate in the
> > "outback," anyway. I'd just wait until I had some connectivity to do my
> > online accounting. Besides my laptops never have that much battery life
> to
> > them.
> >
> >
> >  Original Message 
> > From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
> > Sent: Wed Jun 24 12:18:19 EDT 2020
> > To: "D." 
> > Cc: gnucash-devel 
> > Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote
> > gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Am 24.06.20 um 14:01 schrieb D.:
> >> Yet another documentation appendix that would be more appropriately
> >> placed on the wiki...
> >
> > you are still walking in the wrong direction!
> >
> > If you are in the outback the wiki is not available or the access is
> > very expensive, but the docs are installed on
> > * Windows and Macos always,
> > * Linux details depend on the distribution and your choice. Usually if
> > you install gnucash, you get the recommendation to install gnucash-docs,
> > too.
> >
> > Frank
> >
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

2020-06-24 Thread D. via gnucash-devel
Exactly! 


 Original Message 
From: Derek Atkins 
Sent: Wed Jun 24 16:54:26 EDT 2020
To: "D." 
Cc: "Frank H. Ellenberger" , Dawid Wrobel via 
gnucash-devel 
Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + 
problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

Also if you are in the outback without connectivity to read the wiki you
are definitely not going to have the connectivity to grab quotes!  LOL.
-derek

On Wed, June 24, 2020 3:54 pm, D. via gnucash-devel wrote:
> Further : the user case for a user to be actually unable to access the
> internet to consult the wiki is I think rather extreme. Inconvenient,
> perhaps; maddeningly slow, even. But actually unavailable?
>
> Personally, I'm not sure how many transactions I would generate in the
> "outback," anyway. I'd just wait until I had some connectivity to do my
> online accounting. Besides my laptops never have that much battery life to
> them.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
> Sent: Wed Jun 24 12:18:19 EDT 2020
> To: "D." 
> Cc: gnucash-devel 
> Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote
> gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.
>
> David,
>
> Am 24.06.20 um 14:01 schrieb D.:
>> Yet another documentation appendix that would be more appropriately
>> placed on the wiki...
>
> you are still walking in the wrong direction!
>
> If you are in the outback the wiki is not available or the access is
> very expensive, but the docs are installed on
> * Windows and Macos always,
> * Linux details depend on the distribution and your choice. Usually if
> you install gnucash, you get the recommendation to install gnucash-docs,
> too.
>
> Frank
>
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

2020-06-24 Thread Derek Atkins
Also if you are in the outback without connectivity to read the wiki you
are definitely not going to have the connectivity to grab quotes!  LOL.
-derek

On Wed, June 24, 2020 3:54 pm, D. via gnucash-devel wrote:
> Further : the user case for a user to be actually unable to access the
> internet to consult the wiki is I think rather extreme. Inconvenient,
> perhaps; maddeningly slow, even. But actually unavailable?
>
> Personally, I'm not sure how many transactions I would generate in the
> "outback," anyway. I'd just wait until I had some connectivity to do my
> online accounting. Besides my laptops never have that much battery life to
> them.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
> Sent: Wed Jun 24 12:18:19 EDT 2020
> To: "D." 
> Cc: gnucash-devel 
> Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote
> gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.
>
> David,
>
> Am 24.06.20 um 14:01 schrieb D.:
>> Yet another documentation appendix that would be more appropriately
>> placed on the wiki...
>
> you are still walking in the wrong direction!
>
> If you are in the outback the wiki is not available or the access is
> very expensive, but the docs are installed on
> * Windows and Macos always,
> * Linux details depend on the distribution and your choice. Usually if
> you install gnucash, you get the recommendation to install gnucash-docs,
> too.
>
> Frank
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

2020-06-24 Thread D. via gnucash-devel
Further : the user case for a user to be actually unable to access the internet 
to consult the wiki is I think rather extreme. Inconvenient, perhaps; 
maddeningly slow, even. But actually unavailable? 

Personally, I'm not sure how many transactions I would generate in the 
"outback," anyway. I'd just wait until I had some connectivity to do my online 
accounting. Besides my laptops never have that much battery life to them. 


 Original Message 
From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
Sent: Wed Jun 24 12:18:19 EDT 2020
To: "D." 
Cc: gnucash-devel 
Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + 
problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

David,

Am 24.06.20 um 14:01 schrieb D.:
> Yet another documentation appendix that would be more appropriately placed on 
> the wiki...

you are still walking in the wrong direction!

If you are in the outback the wiki is not available or the access is
very expensive, but the docs are installed on
* Windows and Macos always,
* Linux details depend on the distribution and your choice. Usually if
you install gnucash, you get the recommendation to install gnucash-docs,
too.

Frank

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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

2020-06-24 Thread D. via gnucash-devel
Whatever. 


 Original Message 
From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
Sent: Wed Jun 24 12:18:19 EDT 2020
To: "D." 
Cc: gnucash-devel 
Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + 
problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

David,

Am 24.06.20 um 14:01 schrieb D.:
> Yet another documentation appendix that would be more appropriately placed on 
> the wiki...

you are still walking in the wrong direction!

If you are in the outback the wiki is not available or the access is
very expensive, but the docs are installed on
* Windows and Macos always,
* Linux details depend on the distribution and your choice. Usually if
you install gnucash, you get the recommendation to install gnucash-docs,
too.

Frank

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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I tried pasting them into a Notes field, they take up space, but do not display.

I fired up the GTKInspector to see if I could find a clue —no dice. CSS has no 
effect, and it is near impossible to target anything besides the register sheet 
as a whole, or the entry field. (and one can’t edit the attachment cell to 
focus it) I even tried changing the font to Apple Color Emoji and it still 
didn’t display.

So this might be a GTK-Mac emoji issue. (I can’t paste any emojis in, same 
result) Or if others on Mac can use and see emoji, then something is wrong with 
my setup.

But this failure to display also means the fall-back can’t be seen. GnuCash 
thinks it doesn’t need to fall-back, and puts the glyph there, but it shows up 
as simply a space and is invisible.

Regards,
Adrien


> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 10:57 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I tested this on a couple of Linux boxes and also on Windows and had no 
> trouble so maybe it is a Mac issue. Unfortunately I do not presently have one 
> so I do not know, maybe John might have an idea, the only ideas I have is to 
> set different code points for a paperclip and links for Mac's, disable it for 
> Macs or maybe change the test.
> 
> Adrien do you have likely candidates for those?
> 
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 16:28, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> Those glyphs only show up for me in Character Viewer as ‘Apple Color Emoji’. 
> (thus not part of any regular typeface) Not sure how to get that included in 
> GnuCash if it isn’t there by default. Certainly, I don’t want to change my 
> default font to all emojis.
> 
> But that doesn’t explain the lack of fall back ‘f’ and ‘w’.
> 
> I had a custom CSS file for colors and font sizes, so I pulled that and still 
> the fall backs are not there.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 7:38 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Adrien,
> > That is a bot surprising, there is a test for the glyphs in the font and if 
> > not present should default to 'f' and 'w', code points are..
> > #define GLYPH_PAPERCLIP "\360\237\223\216" // Codepoint U+1F4CE
> > #define GLYPH_LINK  "\360\237\224\227" // Codepoint U+1F517
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Bob


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

2020-06-24 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
David,

Am 24.06.20 um 14:01 schrieb D.:
> Yet another documentation appendix that would be more appropriately placed on 
> the wiki...

you are still walking in the wrong direction!

If you are in the outback the wiki is not available or the access is
very expensive, but the docs are installed on
* Windows and Macos always,
* Linux details depend on the distribution and your choice. Usually if
you install gnucash, you get the recommendation to install gnucash-docs,
too.

Frank
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Robert Fewell
I tested this on a couple of Linux boxes and also on Windows and had no
trouble so maybe it is a Mac issue. Unfortunately I do not presently have
one so I do not know, maybe John might have an idea, the only ideas I have
is to set different code points for a paperclip and links for Mac's,
disable it for Macs or maybe change the test.

Adrien do you have likely candidates for those?

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 16:28, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Those glyphs only show up for me in Character Viewer as ‘Apple Color
> Emoji’. (thus not part of any regular typeface) Not sure how to get that
> included in GnuCash if it isn’t there by default. Certainly, I don’t want
> to change my default font to all emojis.
>
> But that doesn’t explain the lack of fall back ‘f’ and ‘w’.
>
> I had a custom CSS file for colors and font sizes, so I pulled that and
> still the fall backs are not there.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 7:38 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Adrien,
> > That is a bot surprising, there is a test for the glyphs in the font and
> if not present should default to 'f' and 'w', code points are..
> > #define GLYPH_PAPERCLIP "\360\237\223\216" // Codepoint U+1F4CE
> > #define GLYPH_LINK  "\360\237\224\227" // Codepoint U+1F517
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob
>
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I found it to be trivial to expand the columns again from 0px. Though if you’ve 
collapsed multiple adjacent columns, you have to un-collapse them in reverse 
order.

I guess since the layout is shared, it makes sense there could be other issues 
if 0px were allowed.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 10:43 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> The kludge is not practical as there are some hidden columns at 0px as the 
> layout is shared between invoices and bills and one would not know on save 
> which columns should really be at 0px or changed to 1px.
> 
> I think the only real option is to not allow dragging columns to zero, not 
> really sure why it is at least this would also allow you to drag the column 
> width back should it be required.
> 
> Bob


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Robert Fewell
The kludge is not practical as there are some hidden columns at 0px as the
layout is shared between invoices and bills and one would not know on save
which columns should really be at 0px or changed to 1px.

I think the only real option is to not allow dragging columns to zero, not
really sure why it is at least this would also allow you to drag the column
width back should it be required.

Bob


On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 16:36, D. via gnucash-devel <
gnucash-devel@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Seems like this feature needs a few more kinks worked out. At the least,
> saving zero width column settings should be allowed. A kludge might be to
> programmatically reset a zero width column to 1px on save. I doubt most
> users would notice or object to the difference on screen.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: Adrien Monteleone 
> Sent: Wed Jun 24 11:01:31 EDT 2020
> To: gnucash-devel 
> Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released
>
> I guess that is what I managed to do. I'm interpreting ‘0px’ to mean the
> dividers merge/overlap so you only see a single-width divider. That it
> seems doesn’t get saved, but it is easier to accomplish dexterity-wise
> without having to carefully hit a fine-tuned target. (I’m using a touch
> pad, not sure if this is easier or harder with a mouse)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 9:56 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > It may be possible to save the column widths as 1px when the columns are
> dragged on screen to zero px.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob
> >
>
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread D. via gnucash-devel
Seems like this feature needs a few more kinks worked out. At the least, saving 
zero width column settings should be allowed. A kludge might be to 
programmatically reset a zero width column to 1px on save. I doubt most users 
would notice or object to the difference on screen. 


 Original Message 
From: Adrien Monteleone 
Sent: Wed Jun 24 11:01:31 EDT 2020
To: gnucash-devel 
Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

I guess that is what I managed to do. I'm interpreting ‘0px’ to mean the 
dividers merge/overlap so you only see a single-width divider. That it seems 
doesn’t get saved, but it is easier to accomplish dexterity-wise without having 
to carefully hit a fine-tuned target. (I’m using a touch pad, not sure if this 
is easier or harder with a mouse)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 9:56 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It may be possible to save the column widths as 1px when the columns are 
> dragged on screen to zero px.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob
> 


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Those glyphs only show up for me in Character Viewer as ‘Apple Color Emoji’. 
(thus not part of any regular typeface) Not sure how to get that included in 
GnuCash if it isn’t there by default. Certainly, I don’t want to change my 
default font to all emojis.

But that doesn’t explain the lack of fall back ‘f’ and ‘w’.

I had a custom CSS file for colors and font sizes, so I pulled that and still 
the fall backs are not there.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 7:38 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Adrien,
> That is a bot surprising, there is a test for the glyphs in the font and if 
> not present should default to 'f' and 'w', code points are..
> #define GLYPH_PAPERCLIP "\360\237\223\216" // Codepoint U+1F4CE
> #define GLYPH_LINK  "\360\237\224\227" // Codepoint U+1F517
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Bob


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I guess that is what I managed to do. I'm interpreting ‘0px’ to mean the 
dividers merge/overlap so you only see a single-width divider. That it seems 
doesn’t get saved, but it is easier to accomplish dexterity-wise without having 
to carefully hit a fine-tuned target. (I’m using a touch pad, not sure if this 
is easier or harder with a mouse)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 9:56 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It may be possible to save the column widths as 1px when the columns are 
> dragged on screen to zero px.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob
> 


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Robert Fewell
It may be possible to save the column widths as 1px when the columns are
dragged on screen to zero px.

Regards,
Bob

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 15:54, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Thanks, that was the ticket.
>
> I very carefully set them to 1px (column dividers still visible as a now
> thicker line) which is rather tricky.
>
> The layout was retained.
>
> Apparently, the columns that were getting reset on me had been reduced to
> zero.
>
> So I guess this is working as intended (or allowed by code restraints) but
> I can’t say it is intuitive and I suspect something in the wiki and
> documentation (if not already there, my apologies if it is) would be in
> order.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 9:46 AM, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >
> > Funny enough, they were 1 or 2px.
> >
> > In my re-test after using the reset option, I made sure to be careful to
> bring them to zero. Those widths weren’t retained at all.
> >
> > I’ll try again to carefully set them all to very small and see what
> happens.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 9:44 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think that is the problem, reduce those columns but make sure the
> columns are at least one pixel. I do not think they can be zero.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
>
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Bob,

Thanks, that was the ticket.

I very carefully set them to 1px (column dividers still visible as a now 
thicker line) which is rather tricky.

The layout was retained.

Apparently, the columns that were getting reset on me had been reduced to zero.

So I guess this is working as intended (or allowed by code restraints) but I 
can’t say it is intuitive and I suspect something in the wiki and documentation 
(if not already there, my apologies if it is) would be in order.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 9:46 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Funny enough, they were 1 or 2px.
> 
> In my re-test after using the reset option, I made sure to be careful to 
> bring them to zero. Those widths weren’t retained at all.
> 
> I’ll try again to carefully set them all to very small and see what happens.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 9:44 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think that is the problem, reduce those columns but make sure the columns 
>> are at least one pixel. I do not think they can be zero.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Funny enough, they were 1 or 2px.

In my re-test after using the reset option, I made sure to be careful to bring 
them to zero. Those widths weren’t retained at all.

I’ll try again to carefully set them all to very small and see what happens.

Regards,


> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 9:44 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I think that is the problem, reduce those columns but make sure the columns 
> are at least one pixel. I do not think they can be zero.
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 15:41, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> Thanks I’ll check for that glyph.
> 
> Concerning the layout, I used that option then opened other bills from a 
> Vendor Report, as well as the same bill.
> 
> I just changed them again and used the menu entry again, and this time did a 
> Find.
> 
> Now (check my reply to Geert) only ’Taxable?’ and ‘Billable?’ come back to 
> default sizes. (and stay that way regardless of how I pull up that or other 
> bills)
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 7:38 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Adrien,
> > That is a bot surprising, there is a test for the glyphs in the font and if 
> > not present should default to 'f' and 'w', code points are..
> > #define GLYPH_PAPERCLIP "\360\237\223\216" // Codepoint U+1F4CE
> > #define GLYPH_LINK  "\360\237\224\227" // Codepoint U+1F517
> > 
> > Regarding the second point, 
> > Once you set the columns for the vendor bill, I presume you then used the 
> > menu option "Windows->Use as Default for Vendor Documents" which should 
> > save the layout.
> > Closed the Bill, did a find for a bill and hopefully the layout is the same.
> > 
> > Note the 'Windows' option will probably move to 'View' for 4.0
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Bob
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 08:43, Adrien Monteleone 
> >  wrote:
> > Is there a trick to this?
> > 
> > I just set a layout on a Vendor bill, then clicked the menu entry.
> > 
> > I closed the bill and opened a different one from the same vendor. The 
> > layout was not the one I saved.
> > 
> > I then re-opened the original bill and it too did not return with the saved 
> > layout.
> > 
> > 3.906 on MacOS 10.15.5
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> > 
> > p.s. - better to keep the announcement thread title or change it per issue? 
> > (not sure of the protocol on this for testing releases)
> > 
> > > Add option to save Layout for Business items
> > > Add two menu items under windows, one to save an existing layout for 
> > > Invoices, Bills and Vouchers to their respective default layouts so the 
> > > user set column widths will be used. The second menu item will reset the 
> > > column widths to defaults and remove the default layout. Open Business 
> > > items will also save their column widths to the page section so these can 
> > > temporarily have different widths.


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I just decided to test using the ‘Reset’ option then re-opened some bills to 
test that it was indeed reset, then I reset my layout and made it default again.

Now, every subsequent bill I open is back to default column widths and my 
layout isn’t saved at all.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 7:36 AM, Geert Janssens 
>  wrote:
> 
> That should do it...
>  
> I just tested on my Fedora 31 box and after following your steps the new bill 
> opens with the new layout (I do run current master rather than 3.906 but I 
> don't think any changes were made in that area between these two).
>  
> What changes did you make exactly to the layout ?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Geert
>  
> Op woensdag 24 juni 2020 09:42:46 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> > Is there a trick to this?
> > 
> > I just set a layout on a Vendor bill, then clicked the menu entry.
> > 
> > I closed the bill and opened a different one from the same vendor. The
> > layout was not the one I saved.
> > 
> > I then re-opened the original bill and it too did not return with the saved
> > layout.
> > 
> > 3.906 on MacOS 10.15.5
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> > 
> > p.s. - better to keep the announcement thread title or change it per issue?
> > (not sure of the protocol on this for testing releases)
> > > Add option to save Layout for Business items
> > > Add two menu items under windows, one to save an existing layout for
> > > Invoices, Bills and Vouchers to their respective default layouts so the
> > > user set column widths will be used. The second menu item will reset the
> > > column widths to defaults and remove the default layout. Open Business
> > > items will also save their column widths to the page section so these can
> > > temporarily have different widths.


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Robert Fewell
I think that is the problem, reduce those columns but make sure the columns
are at least one pixel. I do not think they can be zero.

Bob

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 15:41, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Thanks I’ll check for that glyph.
>
> Concerning the layout, I used that option then opened other bills from a
> Vendor Report, as well as the same bill.
>
> I just changed them again and used the menu entry again, and this time did
> a Find.
>
> Now (check my reply to Geert) only ’Taxable?’ and ‘Billable?’ come back to
> default sizes. (and stay that way regardless of how I pull up that or other
> bills)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 7:38 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Adrien,
> > That is a bot surprising, there is a test for the glyphs in the font and
> if not present should default to 'f' and 'w', code points are..
> > #define GLYPH_PAPERCLIP "\360\237\223\216" // Codepoint U+1F4CE
> > #define GLYPH_LINK  "\360\237\224\227" // Codepoint U+1F517
> >
> > Regarding the second point,
> > Once you set the columns for the vendor bill, I presume you then used
> the menu option "Windows->Use as Default for Vendor Documents" which should
> save the layout.
> > Closed the Bill, did a find for a bill and hopefully the layout is the
> same.
> >
> > Note the 'Windows' option will probably move to 'View' for 4.0
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 08:43, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> > Is there a trick to this?
> >
> > I just set a layout on a Vendor bill, then clicked the menu entry.
> >
> > I closed the bill and opened a different one from the same vendor. The
> layout was not the one I saved.
> >
> > I then re-opened the original bill and it too did not return with the
> saved layout.
> >
> > 3.906 on MacOS 10.15.5
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > p.s. - better to keep the announcement thread title or change it per
> issue? (not sure of the protocol on this for testing releases)
> >
> > > Add option to save Layout for Business items
> > > Add two menu items under windows, one to save an existing layout for
> Invoices, Bills and Vouchers to their respective default layouts so the
> user set column widths will be used. The second menu item will reset the
> column widths to defaults and remove the default layout. Open Business
> items will also save their column widths to the page section so these can
> temporarily have different widths.
>
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Thanks I’ll check for that glyph.

Concerning the layout, I used that option then opened other bills from a Vendor 
Report, as well as the same bill.

I just changed them again and used the menu entry again, and this time did a 
Find.

Now (check my reply to Geert) only ’Taxable?’ and ‘Billable?’ come back to 
default sizes. (and stay that way regardless of how I pull up that or other 
bills)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 7:38 AM, Robert Fewell <14ubo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Adrien,
> That is a bot surprising, there is a test for the glyphs in the font and if 
> not present should default to 'f' and 'w', code points are..
> #define GLYPH_PAPERCLIP "\360\237\223\216" // Codepoint U+1F4CE
> #define GLYPH_LINK  "\360\237\224\227" // Codepoint U+1F517
> 
> Regarding the second point, 
> Once you set the columns for the vendor bill, I presume you then used the 
> menu option "Windows->Use as Default for Vendor Documents" which should save 
> the layout.
> Closed the Bill, did a find for a bill and hopefully the layout is the same.
> 
> Note the 'Windows' option will probably move to 'View' for 4.0
> 
> Regards,
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 08:43, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> Is there a trick to this?
> 
> I just set a layout on a Vendor bill, then clicked the menu entry.
> 
> I closed the bill and opened a different one from the same vendor. The layout 
> was not the one I saved.
> 
> I then re-opened the original bill and it too did not return with the saved 
> layout.
> 
> 3.906 on MacOS 10.15.5
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> p.s. - better to keep the announcement thread title or change it per issue? 
> (not sure of the protocol on this for testing releases)
> 
> > Add option to save Layout for Business items
> > Add two menu items under windows, one to save an existing layout for 
> > Invoices, Bills and Vouchers to their respective default layouts so the 
> > user set column widths will be used. The second menu item will reset the 
> > column widths to defaults and remove the default layout. Open Business 
> > items will also save their column widths to the page section so these can 
> > temporarily have different widths.


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I reduced ‘Invoiced?’, ‘Billable?' and all three tax columns to zero then 
expanded ‘Expense Account’ and snapped ‘Description’ to balance.

After re-opening, the three tax columns and ‘Billable?’ come back as default 
sizes and Description shrinks accordingly.

Is there a way to choose visible columns like on a printable invoice rather 
than shrinking them to 1px/zero manually?

Regards,
Adrien

 
> On Jun 24, 2020 w26d176, at 7:36 AM, Geert Janssens 
>  wrote:
> 
> That should do it...
>  
> I just tested on my Fedora 31 box and after following your steps the new bill 
> opens with the new layout (I do run current master rather than 3.906 but I 
> don't think any changes were made in that area between these two).
>  
> What changes did you make exactly to the layout ?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Geert
>  
> Op woensdag 24 juni 2020 09:42:46 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> > Is there a trick to this?
> > 
> > I just set a layout on a Vendor bill, then clicked the menu entry.
> > 
> > I closed the bill and opened a different one from the same vendor. The
> > layout was not the one I saved.
> > 
> > I then re-opened the original bill and it too did not return with the saved
> > layout.
> > 
> > 3.906 on MacOS 10.15.5
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> > 
> > p.s. - better to keep the announcement thread title or change it per issue?
> > (not sure of the protocol on this for testing releases)
> > > Add option to save Layout for Business items
> > > Add two menu items under windows, one to save an existing layout for
> > > Invoices, Bills and Vouchers to their respective default layouts so the
> > > user set column widths will be used. The second menu item will reset the
> > > column widths to defaults and remove the default layout. Open Business
> > > items will also save their column widths to the page section so these can
> > > temporarily have different widths.


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Robert Fewell
Adrien,
That is a bot surprising, there is a test for the glyphs in the font and if
not present should default to 'f' and 'w', code points are..
#define GLYPH_PAPERCLIP "\360\237\223\216" // Codepoint U+1F4CE
#define GLYPH_LINK  "\360\237\224\227" // Codepoint U+1F517

Regarding the second point,
Once you set the columns for the vendor bill, I presume you then used the
menu option "Windows->Use as Default for Vendor Documents" which should
save the layout.
Closed the Bill, did a find for a bill and hopefully the layout is the same.

Note the 'Windows' option will probably move to 'View' for 4.0

Regards,
Bob


On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 08:43, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Is there a trick to this?
>
> I just set a layout on a Vendor bill, then clicked the menu entry.
>
> I closed the bill and opened a different one from the same vendor. The
> layout was not the one I saved.
>
> I then re-opened the original bill and it too did not return with the
> saved layout.
>
> 3.906 on MacOS 10.15.5
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> p.s. - better to keep the announcement thread title or change it per
> issue? (not sure of the protocol on this for testing releases)
>
> > Add option to save Layout for Business items
> > Add two menu items under windows, one to save an existing layout for
> Invoices, Bills and Vouchers to their respective default layouts so the
> user set column widths will be used. The second menu item will reset the
> column widths to defaults and remove the default layout. Open Business
> items will also save their column widths to the page section so these can
> temporarily have different widths.
>
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Geert Janssens
That should do it...

I just tested on my Fedora 31 box and after following your steps the new bill 
opens with the new 
layout (I do run current master rather than 3.906 but I don't think any changes 
were made in 
that area between these two).

What changes did you make exactly to the layout ?

Regards,

Geert

Op woensdag 24 juni 2020 09:42:46 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> Is there a trick to this?
> 
> I just set a layout on a Vendor bill, then clicked the menu entry.
> 
> I closed the bill and opened a different one from the same vendor. The
> layout was not the one I saved.
> 
> I then re-opened the original bill and it too did not return with the saved
> layout.
> 
> 3.906 on MacOS 10.15.5
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> p.s. - better to keep the announcement thread title or change it per issue?
> (not sure of the protocol on this for testing releases)
> > Add option to save Layout for Business items
> > Add two menu items under windows, one to save an existing layout for
> > Invoices, Bills and Vouchers to their respective default layouts so the
> > user set column widths will be used. The second menu item will reset the
> > column widths to defaults and remove the default layout. Open Business
> > items will also save their column widths to the page section so these can
> > temporarily have different widths.
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

2020-06-24 Thread D. via gnucash-devel
Yet another documentation appendix that would be more appropriately placed on 
the wiki...


 Original Message 
From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
Sent: Wed Jun 24 05:25:57 EDT 2020
To: "uhopfer@gmail" 
Cc: gnucash-devel 
Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + 
problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.



Am 24.06.20 um 01:51 schrieb John Ralls:
> The 3 TIAA-CREF symbols are QCGLRX, QCSCIX, QCSCRX. TIAA-CREF does not return 
> any quote for these.
> 

Because TIAA-CREF uses it's own numbers from colum bogus:
https://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-help/fq-spec-tiaa.html

HTH
Frank
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

2020-06-24 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger



Am 24.06.20 um 01:51 schrieb John Ralls:
> The 3 TIAA-CREF symbols are QCGLRX, QCSCIX, QCSCRX. TIAA-CREF does not return 
> any quote for these.
> 

Because TIAA-CREF uses it's own numbers from colum bogus:
https://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-help/fq-spec-tiaa.html

HTH
Frank
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Is there a trick to this?

I just set a layout on a Vendor bill, then clicked the menu entry.

I closed the bill and opened a different one from the same vendor. The layout 
was not the one I saved.

I then re-opened the original bill and it too did not return with the saved 
layout.

3.906 on MacOS 10.15.5

Regards,
Adrien

p.s. - better to keep the announcement thread title or change it per issue? 
(not sure of the protocol on this for testing releases)

> Add option to save Layout for Business items
> Add two menu items under windows, one to save an existing layout for 
> Invoices, Bills and Vouchers to their respective default layouts so the user 
> set column widths will be used. The second menu item will reset the column 
> widths to defaults and remove the default layout. Open Business items will 
> also save their column widths to the page section so these can temporarily 
> have different widths.


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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] GnuCash 3.906 Released

2020-06-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Is there some documentation on the unicode point for this symbol?

I loaded 3.906, and the ‘f’ indicator went away and was replaced by nothing. 
(so I’m guess even the default font doesn’t have the symbol, which isn’t 
optimal.)

Regards,
Adrien

> 
> • A symbol is now displayed on transactions in the register when they have an 
> attachment and the selected font supports the symbol.


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