Re: gnucash wiki access

[pjlbyrne]

Thanks Frank you were right! All done now.
CP



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Re: gnucash wiki access

[Frank H. Ellenberger]

Hi,

Am 03.04.2018 um 18:50 schrieb pjlbyrne:
> Thanks for your reply John. I am happy to wait.
> CP

After a look in the rights management, I think you need to confirm your
email account again to get the edit right.

And yes, we should change it when the server admin is back.

After a week you should get the CreatePage right.

Regards
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Re: gnucash wiki access

[John Ralls]

David,

Thanks for saying, but only Derek can fix it and he's away.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:49 AM, David T.  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> The Captcha problem essentially freezes the wiki from the perspective of 
> adding or modifying links; contributors can’t (for example) fix erroneous 
> links like the one for OFX on the Glossary page that links to a 404. That’s a 
> problem that only grows worse.
> 
> David
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:36 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:12 AM, pjlbyrne  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I found a typo on the gnucash wiki so I attempted to register in order to
>>> fix it.
>>> 
>>> Firstly, the captcha box on the registration form appears to be broken. It
>>> refers to an 'obsolete version 1 captcha' and has a link to the newer
>>> version.
>>> 
>>> Secondly, I did get an account on the wiki but I don't seem to have
>>> permission to edit pages. How do I acquire this please?
>>> 
>>> Perhaps these 2 issues are related?
>> 
>> They're not. The captcha issue was raised a couple of weeks ago but Derek 
>> hasn't had a chance to fix it yet.
>> 
>> There's a one-week "cooling off period" between getting an account and it 
>> being authorized for editing. That was in place as an anti-spam measure 
>> before we required applying for an account and hasn't yet been removed.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
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Re: gnucash wiki access

[pjlbyrne]

Thanks for your reply John. I am happy to wait.
CP



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Re: gnucash wiki access

[David T. via gnucash-devel]

John,

The Captcha problem essentially freezes the wiki from the perspective of adding 
or modifying links; contributors can’t (for example) fix erroneous links like 
the one for OFX on the Glossary page that links to a 404. That’s a problem that 
only grows worse.

David

> On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:36 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:12 AM, pjlbyrne  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I found a typo on the gnucash wiki so I attempted to register in order to
>> fix it.
>> 
>> Firstly, the captcha box on the registration form appears to be broken. It
>> refers to an 'obsolete version 1 captcha' and has a link to the newer
>> version.
>> 
>> Secondly, I did get an account on the wiki but I don't seem to have
>> permission to edit pages. How do I acquire this please?
>> 
>> Perhaps these 2 issues are related?
> 
> They're not. The captcha issue was raised a couple of weeks ago but Derek 
> hasn't had a chance to fix it yet.
> 
> There's a one-week "cooling off period" between getting an account and it 
> being authorized for editing. That was in place as an anti-spam measure 
> before we required applying for an account and hasn't yet been removed.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
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Re: gnucash wiki access

[John Ralls]

> On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:12 AM, pjlbyrne  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I found a typo on the gnucash wiki so I attempted to register in order to
> fix it.
> 
> Firstly, the captcha box on the registration form appears to be broken. It
> refers to an 'obsolete version 1 captcha' and has a link to the newer
> version.
> 
> Secondly, I did get an account on the wiki but I don't seem to have
> permission to edit pages. How do I acquire this please?
> 
> Perhaps these 2 issues are related?

They're not. The captcha issue was raised a couple of weeks ago but Derek 
hasn't had a chance to fix it yet.

There's a one-week "cooling off period" between getting an account and it being 
authorized for editing. That was in place as an anti-spam measure before we 
required applying for an account and hasn't yet been removed.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: GnuCash wiki error on reCAPTCHA

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

I'm back from my holiday so can now work to debug this.
I don't see anything specific in the logs, so I think we'll have to work
on this in more "real time".
Let me know when you're available to work on this?

(I should note that I *DID* receive email from google about having to
upgrade our reCAPTCHA interface, which I have not (yet) done -- unclear
if this is related)

-derek

Tommy Trussell  writes:

> I'm trying to update the Ubuntu page at wiki.gnucash.org that I have
> updated in the past. It's been months since I've been logged in, so I just
> logged in anew.
>
> I made the change to the page, which includes a new URL, so I get the
> reCAPTCHA.
>
> When I enter the CAPTCHA text I get a blank page containing the error
>
> "Could not open socket"
>
> I have tried Firefox and Chromium, both with the same result.
>
> Various web searches imply the error is due to a network issue between the
> wiki server and the captcha server, but the problem has persisted for more
> than a half hour.
>
> Is the problem affecting other folks, too, or am I missing something?
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Re: GnuCash wiki error on reCAPTCHA

[Derek Atkins]

Unfortunately I'm away on holiday and don't have enough my laptop with me, 
so this will have to wait until January.  I suspect it's an IPv6 issue.


-derek
Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.



On December 22, 2017 1:14:08 PM Tommy Trussell  
wrote:



On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Geert Janssens 
wrote:


Op woensdag 20 december 2017 23:31:45 CET schreef Tommy Trussell:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Tommy Trussell <
tommy.truss...@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
> > I'm trying to update the Ubuntu page at wiki.gnucash.org that I have
> > updated in the past. It's been months since I've been logged in, so I
just
> > logged in anew.
> >
> > I made the change to the page, which includes a new URL, so I get the
> > reCAPTCHA.
> >
> > When I enter the CAPTCHA text I get a blank page containing the error
> >
> > "Could not open socket"
> >
> > I have tried Firefox and Chromium, both with the same result.
> >
> > Various web searches imply the error is due to a network issue between
the
> > wiki server and the captcha server, but the problem has persisted for
more
> > than a half hour.
> >
> > Is the problem affecting other folks, too, or am I missing something?
>
> I'm still trying to update, and 24 hours later am still getting the
"Could
> not open socket" message.
>
> I deleted the two obsolete releases of Ubuntu (didn't trigger CAPTCHA)
BUT
> I am still trying to add the information for Ubuntu 17.10.
>
> If someone with edit rights to the wiki could go to the page
>
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Ubuntu
>
> and paste the markup below at the correct spot (above 17.04) and let me
> know whether you get the same error.
>
>
> === Ubuntu 17.10 ("Artful Aardvark") ===
>
> GnuCash 2.6.17 is included in Ubuntu 17.10, released October 2017
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/gnome/gnucash
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I have added the section for you without problems. But I'm probably not a
good
reference as I have more rights in the wiki than most users...

Derek, can you help debug this ?

Tommy, perhaps this would be easier to test in an interactive session with
Derek on irc. His nick there is 'warlord'.

Geert



Geert, thank you for adding the URL!  I'm disappointed you didn't see the
bug, but glad to know it doesn't affect everyone.

I'm not in front of a screen reliably until next week; I will put on my
schedule to check back and see if I can get the error when Derek is
available to look at the server.
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Re: GnuCash wiki error on reCAPTCHA

[Tommy Trussell]

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Geert Janssens 
wrote:

> Op woensdag 20 december 2017 23:31:45 CET schreef Tommy Trussell:
> > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Tommy Trussell <
> tommy.truss...@gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > I'm trying to update the Ubuntu page at wiki.gnucash.org that I have
> > > updated in the past. It's been months since I've been logged in, so I
> just
> > > logged in anew.
> > >
> > > I made the change to the page, which includes a new URL, so I get the
> > > reCAPTCHA.
> > >
> > > When I enter the CAPTCHA text I get a blank page containing the error
> > >
> > > "Could not open socket"
> > >
> > > I have tried Firefox and Chromium, both with the same result.
> > >
> > > Various web searches imply the error is due to a network issue between
> the
> > > wiki server and the captcha server, but the problem has persisted for
> more
> > > than a half hour.
> > >
> > > Is the problem affecting other folks, too, or am I missing something?
> >
> > I'm still trying to update, and 24 hours later am still getting the
> "Could
> > not open socket" message.
> >
> > I deleted the two obsolete releases of Ubuntu (didn't trigger CAPTCHA)
> BUT
> > I am still trying to add the information for Ubuntu 17.10.
> >
> > If someone with edit rights to the wiki could go to the page
> >
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Ubuntu
> >
> > and paste the markup below at the correct spot (above 17.04) and let me
> > know whether you get the same error.
> >
> >
> > === Ubuntu 17.10 ("Artful Aardvark") ===
> >
> > GnuCash 2.6.17 is included in Ubuntu 17.10, released October 2017
> > http://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/gnome/gnucash
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>
> I have added the section for you without problems. But I'm probably not a
> good
> reference as I have more rights in the wiki than most users...
>
> Derek, can you help debug this ?
>
> Tommy, perhaps this would be easier to test in an interactive session with
> Derek on irc. His nick there is 'warlord'.
>
> Geert
>
>
Geert, thank you for adding the URL!  I'm disappointed you didn't see the
bug, but glad to know it doesn't affect everyone.

I'm not in front of a screen reliably until next week; I will put on my
schedule to check back and see if I can get the error when Derek is
available to look at the server.
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Re: GnuCash wiki error on reCAPTCHA

[Geert Janssens]

Op woensdag 20 december 2017 23:31:45 CET schreef Tommy Trussell:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Tommy Trussell 
> 
> wrote:
> > I'm trying to update the Ubuntu page at wiki.gnucash.org that I have
> > updated in the past. It's been months since I've been logged in, so I just
> > logged in anew.
> > 
> > I made the change to the page, which includes a new URL, so I get the
> > reCAPTCHA.
> > 
> > When I enter the CAPTCHA text I get a blank page containing the error
> > 
> > "Could not open socket"
> > 
> > I have tried Firefox and Chromium, both with the same result.
> > 
> > Various web searches imply the error is due to a network issue between the
> > wiki server and the captcha server, but the problem has persisted for more
> > than a half hour.
> > 
> > Is the problem affecting other folks, too, or am I missing something?
> 
> I'm still trying to update, and 24 hours later am still getting the "Could
> not open socket" message.
> 
> I deleted the two obsolete releases of Ubuntu (didn't trigger CAPTCHA) BUT
> I am still trying to add the information for Ubuntu 17.10.
> 
> If someone with edit rights to the wiki could go to the page
> 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Ubuntu
> 
> and paste the markup below at the correct spot (above 17.04) and let me
> know whether you get the same error.
> 
> 
> === Ubuntu 17.10 ("Artful Aardvark") ===
> 
> GnuCash 2.6.17 is included in Ubuntu 17.10, released October 2017
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/gnome/gnucash
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I have added the section for you without problems. But I'm probably not a good 
reference as I have more rights in the wiki than most users...

Derek, can you help debug this ?

Tommy, perhaps this would be easier to test in an interactive session with 
Derek on irc. His nick there is 'warlord'.

Geert

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Re: GnuCash wiki error on reCAPTCHA

[Tommy Trussell]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Tommy Trussell 
wrote:

> I'm trying to update the Ubuntu page at wiki.gnucash.org that I have
> updated in the past. It's been months since I've been logged in, so I just
> logged in anew.
>
> I made the change to the page, which includes a new URL, so I get the
> reCAPTCHA.
>
> When I enter the CAPTCHA text I get a blank page containing the error
>
> "Could not open socket"
>
> I have tried Firefox and Chromium, both with the same result.
>
> Various web searches imply the error is due to a network issue between the
> wiki server and the captcha server, but the problem has persisted for more
> than a half hour.
>
> Is the problem affecting other folks, too, or am I missing something?
>
>
I'm still trying to update, and 24 hours later am still getting the "Could
not open socket" message.

I deleted the two obsolete releases of Ubuntu (didn't trigger CAPTCHA) BUT
I am still trying to add the information for Ubuntu 17.10.

If someone with edit rights to the wiki could go to the page

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Ubuntu

and paste the markup below at the correct spot (above 17.04) and let me
know whether you get the same error.


=== Ubuntu 17.10 ("Artful Aardvark") ===

GnuCash 2.6.17 is included in Ubuntu 17.10, released October 2017
http://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/gnome/gnucash
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Re: Gnucash wiki

[John Ralls]

> On May 21, 2017, at 1:39 PM, doncram  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.  I am interested in helping develop the wiki, also.  I am new to 
> GnuCash but experienced in accounting and in editing in the English language 
> Wikipedia.  The categories and templates suggested sound sensible.  Like 
> Buddha Buck, I have just requested an account on the 
> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GnuCash  
> wiki.

And both of you are in.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: Gnucash wiki

[doncram]

Hi all.  I am interested in helping develop the wiki, also.  I am new to
GnuCash but experienced in accounting and in editing in the English
language Wikipedia.  The categories and templates suggested sound
sensible.  Like Buddha Buck, I have just requested an account on the
http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GnuCash wiki.

--Doncram

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:49 PM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:

>
> > On May 19, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Chris Good <chris.g...@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 18:52:27 +0500
> >> From: "David T." <sunfis...@yahoo.com>
> >> To: Geert Janssens <geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be>
> >> Cc: Buddha Buck <blaisepas...@gmail.com>, gnucash-devel@gnucash.org
> >> Subject: Re: Gnucash wiki
> >> Message-ID: <0f82a5f6-d023-4687-a2f4-d7c3a3c6c...@yahoo.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>
> > ...
> > The use of suggested categories & templates sounds good to me, if
> some-one
> > has the time to do it.
> >
> > FixMe may be a better category than CanSomeoneElseLookAtThisPlease.
> >
> > I'm not sure dropping pages is a good thing. While reducing noise when
> > searching is good, sometimes historical info is very useful to those
> without
> > a long GnuCash involvement.
> > What is considered an obsolete announcement - pre 2.4 or even older? A
> > consensus of obsolete would be helpful.
> >
> > Geert, are the README pages you refer to mostly the ones for various
> > versions of MacOSX? I've no idea what versions of OSX are considered
> > obsolete.
> >
> > I too have been confused by https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/
> Concept_of_Lots
> > but there is a lot of good info and many useful possible future
> > enhancements.
> > If others think it worthwhile, I'll add some comments to things that may
> be
> > useful but are apparently not currently implemented. I investigated
> anything
> > I was unsure about when I was documenting Lots for the Guide.
> >
> > I agree that information that is available elsewhere, can be linked to or
> > dropped from the wiki, while being very careful not to lose anything
> > possibly valuable.
> >
> > Ooo... - I found http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Eclipse while searching
> the
> > wiki for info re Templates. Maybe this will spur me to move to Eclipse
> which
> > I have been putting off due to not wanting to learn yet another IDE.
>
> Searching "announcement*" produces pages announcing 1.9.0 through 2.2.1  I
> think it would be safe to delete the lot of them, but I suppose we could
> attach a template that flags them as "ancient history".
>
> *readme* search indeed turns up the OSX Readme pages that aren't quite as
> old, the most recent being for 2.4.7, but I'd think removing them would be
> safe too.  The content is duplicated in a file in the respective disk
> images so the information will still be available to anyone who actually
> needs it.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
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Re: Gnucash wiki

[John Ralls]

> On May 19, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Chris Good <chris.g...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 18:52:27 +0500
>> From: "David T." <sunfis...@yahoo.com>
>> To: Geert Janssens <geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be>
>> Cc: Buddha Buck <blaisepas...@gmail.com>, gnucash-devel@gnucash.org
>> Subject: Re: Gnucash wiki
>> Message-ID: <0f82a5f6-d023-4687-a2f4-d7c3a3c6c...@yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
> ...
> The use of suggested categories & templates sounds good to me, if some-one
> has the time to do it.
> 
> FixMe may be a better category than CanSomeoneElseLookAtThisPlease.
> 
> I'm not sure dropping pages is a good thing. While reducing noise when
> searching is good, sometimes historical info is very useful to those without
> a long GnuCash involvement.
> What is considered an obsolete announcement - pre 2.4 or even older? A
> consensus of obsolete would be helpful.
> 
> Geert, are the README pages you refer to mostly the ones for various
> versions of MacOSX? I've no idea what versions of OSX are considered
> obsolete.
> 
> I too have been confused by https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Concept_of_Lots
> but there is a lot of good info and many useful possible future
> enhancements.
> If others think it worthwhile, I'll add some comments to things that may be
> useful but are apparently not currently implemented. I investigated anything
> I was unsure about when I was documenting Lots for the Guide.
> 
> I agree that information that is available elsewhere, can be linked to or
> dropped from the wiki, while being very careful not to lose anything
> possibly valuable.
> 
> Ooo... - I found http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Eclipse while searching the
> wiki for info re Templates. Maybe this will spur me to move to Eclipse which
> I have been putting off due to not wanting to learn yet another IDE.

Searching "announcement*" produces pages announcing 1.9.0 through 2.2.1  I 
think it would be safe to delete the lot of them, but I suppose we could attach 
a template that flags them as "ancient history".

*readme* search indeed turns up the OSX Readme pages that aren't quite as old, 
the most recent being for 2.4.7, but I'd think removing them would be safe too. 
 The content is duplicated in a file in the respective disk images so the 
information will still be available to anyone who actually needs it.

Regards,
John Ralls


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RE: Gnucash wiki

[Chris Good]

> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 18:52:27 +0500
> From: "David T." <sunfis...@yahoo.com>
> To: Geert Janssens <geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be>
> Cc: Buddha Buck <blaisepas...@gmail.com>, gnucash-devel@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: Gnucash wiki
> Message-ID: <0f82a5f6-d023-4687-a2f4-d7c3a3c6c...@yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
...
The use of suggested categories & templates sounds good to me, if some-one
has the time to do it.

FixMe may be a better category than CanSomeoneElseLookAtThisPlease.

I'm not sure dropping pages is a good thing. While reducing noise when
searching is good, sometimes historical info is very useful to those without
a long GnuCash involvement.
What is considered an obsolete announcement - pre 2.4 or even older? A
consensus of obsolete would be helpful.

Geert, are the README pages you refer to mostly the ones for various
versions of MacOSX? I've no idea what versions of OSX are considered
obsolete.

I too have been confused by https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Concept_of_Lots
but there is a lot of good info and many useful possible future
enhancements.
If others think it worthwhile, I'll add some comments to things that may be
useful but are apparently not currently implemented. I investigated anything
I was unsure about when I was documenting Lots for the Guide.

I agree that information that is available elsewhere, can be linked to or
dropped from the wiki, while being very careful not to lose anything
possibly valuable.
 
Ooo... - I found http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Eclipse while searching the
wiki for info re Templates. Maybe this will spur me to move to Eclipse which
I have been putting off due to not wanting to learn yet another IDE.

Regards, Chris Good


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Re: Gnucash wiki

[Buddha Buck]

I will set up some templates after I get a login to the wiki. I have just
filed a request.


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:52 AM David T.  wrote:

> Templates do sound like an improvement, although I would be concerned with
> some of these huge wiki pages (like the Documentation Update Instructions
> page) that the box will be at the top, and someone will link into the page
> such that the box wouldn’t show.
>
> If you set up the templates or explained how to set them up and implement
> them, I would consider helping out. Can’t guarantee anything.
>
> David
>
> > On May 19, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Geert Janssens 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Buddha,
> >
> > I didn't even know of the existence of templates. The ones you suggest
> are a
> > good start IMO.
> >
> > As for Wiki's containing everything, I only follow up to "that is not
> readily
> > available elsewhere". In the latter case I would prefer to be pointed at
> the
> > proper source (for example to the Guide, or another external reference).
> >
> > Let's see what others can still add...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geert
> >
> > On donderdag 18 mei 2017 20:12:52 CEST Buddha Buck wrote:
> >> I just went and looked at the Wiki, to get an idea of what the task is.
> >>
> >> I'm all for Wikis containing everything, as long as it is clearly
> >> identified and organized. Currently, I agree that the Wiki doesn't meet
> >> that standard. Even the front page is a "mixed bag" of content, and
> >> could/should be organized better. As you point out, figuring out the
> >> necessary organization is difficult.
> >>
> >> I think that for starters the creation of a few templates that can be
> >> dropped onto pages to help classify content and make it visible would
> help.
> >> For instance, create a Template:Historical template which (a) adds the
> >> article to the "Historical" category, and (b) displays a box at the top
> of
> >> the page saying that the content of the page applies to a past version
> of
> >> GnuCash and is not current documentation. Then Wiki editors can look at
> a
> >> page (on, say, using lots for managing stock transactions) and drop in
> the
> >> template so that future readers who stumble upon it can clearly see it's
> >> probably not what they are looking for.
> >>
> >> Based on the things you've noticed, I can suggest a few templates to
> make:
> >>
> >>   - Template:Historical
> >>   - Template:Version|vernum|endvernum  (for marking that a page is
> useful
> >>   for GnuCash between versions vernum and endvernum, both optional).
> >>   - Template:InDevelopment (for marking pages that refer to features
> that
> >>   are in development, but haven't been released)
> >>   - Template:Os|ostype (for marking pages with OS-specific information
> >>   - Template:MarkedForDeletion
> >>
> >> I can also see categories related to
> >>
> >>   - Category:HowTo
> >>   - Category:Development
> >>   - Category:Documentation
> >>   - Category:Announcement
> >>   - Category:Events
> >>   - Category:CanSomeoneElseLookAtThisPlease
> >>
> >> 221 content pages doesn't sound like a lot. I'd be willing to do some of
> >> the work to set up the templates and categories (once we nail down what
> we
> >> want) and start working through the pages and tagging them with
> categories
> >> and templates.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:25 PM Geert Janssens <
> geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> A recent thread on a page in our wiki on lots raised the potential
> pitfall
> >>> of
> >>> having draft pages in our wiki as rightfully pointed out by David T.
> >>>
> >>> I don't consider me a wiki maintainer really though I have contributed
> to
> >>> some
> >>> pages. This minor incident did get me thinking though. And I want to
> >>> discuss
> >>> the following question with a broader audience:
> >>>
> >>> What do we want our wiki to be ?
> >>>
> >>> A few statistics [0] for those interested in contributing to this
> >>> discussion:
> >>>
> >>> 1. The wiki currently has 221 real content pages [1] of varying quality
> >>> and
> >>> usefulness.
> >>> 2. In addition there are 310 additional related pages like redirects,
> talk
> >>> pages,...
> >>> 3. There are 12 admins, of which only a handful is still active as far
> as
> >>> I
> >>> know (and I didn't know *I* was one of them)
> >>> 4. Looking at the content pages list, I find about 53 pages are ancient
> >>> release announcements or readme files for obsolete gnucash versions.
> >>>
> >>> In its current form it's a mixed bag of all kinds of content
> >>> - pages attempting to guide contributors in helping out in different
> forms
> >>> - pages attempting to help users with common or less common issues
> >>> - reports of past events
> >>> - some of these pages are generic, others are platform dependent,...
> >>> - however most pages don't specify their intent clearly so in several
> >>> cases
> >>> it's difficult to judge whether the page is for what you are 

Re: Gnucash wiki

[David T. via gnucash-devel]

Templates do sound like an improvement, although I would be concerned with some 
of these huge wiki pages (like the Documentation Update Instructions page) that 
the box will be at the top, and someone will link into the page such that the 
box wouldn’t show.

If you set up the templates or explained how to set them up and implement them, 
I would consider helping out. Can’t guarantee anything.

David

> On May 19, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Geert Janssens  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Buddha,
> 
> I didn't even know of the existence of templates. The ones you suggest are a 
> good start IMO.
> 
> As for Wiki's containing everything, I only follow up to "that is not readily 
> available elsewhere". In the latter case I would prefer to be pointed at the 
> proper source (for example to the Guide, or another external reference).
> 
> Let's see what others can still add...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> On donderdag 18 mei 2017 20:12:52 CEST Buddha Buck wrote:
>> I just went and looked at the Wiki, to get an idea of what the task is.
>> 
>> I'm all for Wikis containing everything, as long as it is clearly
>> identified and organized. Currently, I agree that the Wiki doesn't meet
>> that standard. Even the front page is a "mixed bag" of content, and
>> could/should be organized better. As you point out, figuring out the
>> necessary organization is difficult.
>> 
>> I think that for starters the creation of a few templates that can be
>> dropped onto pages to help classify content and make it visible would help.
>> For instance, create a Template:Historical template which (a) adds the
>> article to the "Historical" category, and (b) displays a box at the top of
>> the page saying that the content of the page applies to a past version of
>> GnuCash and is not current documentation. Then Wiki editors can look at a
>> page (on, say, using lots for managing stock transactions) and drop in the
>> template so that future readers who stumble upon it can clearly see it's
>> probably not what they are looking for.
>> 
>> Based on the things you've noticed, I can suggest a few templates to make:
>> 
>>   - Template:Historical
>>   - Template:Version|vernum|endvernum  (for marking that a page is useful
>>   for GnuCash between versions vernum and endvernum, both optional).
>>   - Template:InDevelopment (for marking pages that refer to features that
>>   are in development, but haven't been released)
>>   - Template:Os|ostype (for marking pages with OS-specific information
>>   - Template:MarkedForDeletion
>> 
>> I can also see categories related to
>> 
>>   - Category:HowTo
>>   - Category:Development
>>   - Category:Documentation
>>   - Category:Announcement
>>   - Category:Events
>>   - Category:CanSomeoneElseLookAtThisPlease
>> 
>> 221 content pages doesn't sound like a lot. I'd be willing to do some of
>> the work to set up the templates and categories (once we nail down what we
>> want) and start working through the pages and tagging them with categories
>> and templates.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:25 PM Geert Janssens 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> A recent thread on a page in our wiki on lots raised the potential pitfall
>>> of
>>> having draft pages in our wiki as rightfully pointed out by David T.
>>> 
>>> I don't consider me a wiki maintainer really though I have contributed to
>>> some
>>> pages. This minor incident did get me thinking though. And I want to
>>> discuss
>>> the following question with a broader audience:
>>> 
>>> What do we want our wiki to be ?
>>> 
>>> A few statistics [0] for those interested in contributing to this
>>> discussion:
>>> 
>>> 1. The wiki currently has 221 real content pages [1] of varying quality
>>> and
>>> usefulness.
>>> 2. In addition there are 310 additional related pages like redirects, talk
>>> pages,...
>>> 3. There are 12 admins, of which only a handful is still active as far as
>>> I
>>> know (and I didn't know *I* was one of them)
>>> 4. Looking at the content pages list, I find about 53 pages are ancient
>>> release announcements or readme files for obsolete gnucash versions.
>>> 
>>> In its current form it's a mixed bag of all kinds of content
>>> - pages attempting to guide contributors in helping out in different forms
>>> - pages attempting to help users with common or less common issues
>>> - reports of past events
>>> - some of these pages are generic, others are platform dependent,...
>>> - however most pages don't specify their intent clearly so in several
>>> cases
>>> it's difficult to judge whether the page is for what you are looking for
>>> or
>>> not
>>> - some pages have current information, others are for historical interest
>>> only
>>> - ...
>>> 
>>> So what do we want to achieve with the wiki ?
>>> Do we manage to achieve it ?
>>> 
>>> I believe we would be beneficial find an answer to these questions so we
>>> can
>>> more clearly guide the content creation in the wiki.
>>> 
>>> From what I see the 

Re: Gnucash wiki

[Geert Janssens]

Hi Buddha,

I didn't even know of the existence of templates. The ones you suggest are a 
good start IMO.

As for Wiki's containing everything, I only follow up to "that is not readily 
available elsewhere". In the latter case I would prefer to be pointed at the 
proper source (for example to the Guide, or another external reference).

Let's see what others can still add...

Regards,

Geert

On donderdag 18 mei 2017 20:12:52 CEST Buddha Buck wrote:
> I just went and looked at the Wiki, to get an idea of what the task is.
> 
> I'm all for Wikis containing everything, as long as it is clearly
> identified and organized. Currently, I agree that the Wiki doesn't meet
> that standard. Even the front page is a "mixed bag" of content, and
> could/should be organized better. As you point out, figuring out the
> necessary organization is difficult.
> 
> I think that for starters the creation of a few templates that can be
> dropped onto pages to help classify content and make it visible would help.
> For instance, create a Template:Historical template which (a) adds the
> article to the "Historical" category, and (b) displays a box at the top of
> the page saying that the content of the page applies to a past version of
> GnuCash and is not current documentation. Then Wiki editors can look at a
> page (on, say, using lots for managing stock transactions) and drop in the
> template so that future readers who stumble upon it can clearly see it's
> probably not what they are looking for.
> 
> Based on the things you've noticed, I can suggest a few templates to make:
> 
>- Template:Historical
>- Template:Version|vernum|endvernum  (for marking that a page is useful
>for GnuCash between versions vernum and endvernum, both optional).
>- Template:InDevelopment (for marking pages that refer to features that
>are in development, but haven't been released)
>- Template:Os|ostype (for marking pages with OS-specific information
>- Template:MarkedForDeletion
> 
> I can also see categories related to
> 
>- Category:HowTo
>- Category:Development
>- Category:Documentation
>- Category:Announcement
>- Category:Events
>- Category:CanSomeoneElseLookAtThisPlease
> 
> 221 content pages doesn't sound like a lot. I'd be willing to do some of
> the work to set up the templates and categories (once we nail down what we
> want) and start working through the pages and tagging them with categories
> and templates.
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:25 PM Geert Janssens 
> 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > A recent thread on a page in our wiki on lots raised the potential pitfall
> > of
> > having draft pages in our wiki as rightfully pointed out by David T.
> > 
> > I don't consider me a wiki maintainer really though I have contributed to
> > some
> > pages. This minor incident did get me thinking though. And I want to
> > discuss
> > the following question with a broader audience:
> > 
> > What do we want our wiki to be ?
> > 
> > A few statistics [0] for those interested in contributing to this
> > discussion:
> > 
> > 1. The wiki currently has 221 real content pages [1] of varying quality
> > and
> > usefulness.
> > 2. In addition there are 310 additional related pages like redirects, talk
> > pages,...
> > 3. There are 12 admins, of which only a handful is still active as far as
> > I
> > know (and I didn't know *I* was one of them)
> > 4. Looking at the content pages list, I find about 53 pages are ancient
> > release announcements or readme files for obsolete gnucash versions.
> > 
> > In its current form it's a mixed bag of all kinds of content
> > - pages attempting to guide contributors in helping out in different forms
> > - pages attempting to help users with common or less common issues
> > - reports of past events
> > - some of these pages are generic, others are platform dependent,...
> > - however most pages don't specify their intent clearly so in several
> > cases
> > it's difficult to judge whether the page is for what you are looking for
> > or
> > not
> > - some pages have current information, others are for historical interest
> > only
> > - ...
> > 
> > So what do we want to achieve with the wiki ?
> > Do we manage to achieve it ?
> > 
> > I believe we would be beneficial find an answer to these questions so we
> > can
> > more clearly guide the content creation in the wiki.
> > 
> > From what I see the wiki is currently rather chaotic. I realize wikis
> > usually
> > are. However I think a wiki can be more. So a few first suggestions:
> > 
> > - At the very least the content that's there could do with some
> > structuring
> > (again a concept not native to wikis), for example by making better use of
> > well thought out categories.
> > 
> > - Depending on the answer to my first question, I would also propose to
> > drop
> > certain pages, to start with the obsolete announcements and README pages.
> > 
> > From there I'm very open to other suggestions 

Re: Gnucash wiki

[Buddha Buck]

I just went and looked at the Wiki, to get an idea of what the task is.

I'm all for Wikis containing everything, as long as it is clearly
identified and organized. Currently, I agree that the Wiki doesn't meet
that standard. Even the front page is a "mixed bag" of content, and
could/should be organized better. As you point out, figuring out the
necessary organization is difficult.

I think that for starters the creation of a few templates that can be
dropped onto pages to help classify content and make it visible would help.
For instance, create a Template:Historical template which (a) adds the
article to the "Historical" category, and (b) displays a box at the top of
the page saying that the content of the page applies to a past version of
GnuCash and is not current documentation. Then Wiki editors can look at a
page (on, say, using lots for managing stock transactions) and drop in the
template so that future readers who stumble upon it can clearly see it's
probably not what they are looking for.

Based on the things you've noticed, I can suggest a few templates to make:

   - Template:Historical
   - Template:Version|vernum|endvernum  (for marking that a page is useful
   for GnuCash between versions vernum and endvernum, both optional).
   - Template:InDevelopment (for marking pages that refer to features that
   are in development, but haven't been released)
   - Template:Os|ostype (for marking pages with OS-specific information
   - Template:MarkedForDeletion

I can also see categories related to

   - Category:HowTo
   - Category:Development
   - Category:Documentation
   - Category:Announcement
   - Category:Events
   - Category:CanSomeoneElseLookAtThisPlease

221 content pages doesn't sound like a lot. I'd be willing to do some of
the work to set up the templates and categories (once we nail down what we
want) and start working through the pages and tagging them with categories
and templates.


On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:25 PM Geert Janssens 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A recent thread on a page in our wiki on lots raised the potential pitfall
> of
> having draft pages in our wiki as rightfully pointed out by David T.
>
> I don't consider me a wiki maintainer really though I have contributed to
> some
> pages. This minor incident did get me thinking though. And I want to
> discuss
> the following question with a broader audience:
>
> What do we want our wiki to be ?
>
> A few statistics [0] for those interested in contributing to this
> discussion:
>
> 1. The wiki currently has 221 real content pages [1] of varying quality and
> usefulness.
> 2. In addition there are 310 additional related pages like redirects, talk
> pages,...
> 3. There are 12 admins, of which only a handful is still active as far as I
> know (and I didn't know *I* was one of them)
> 4. Looking at the content pages list, I find about 53 pages are ancient
> release announcements or readme files for obsolete gnucash versions.
>
> In its current form it's a mixed bag of all kinds of content
> - pages attempting to guide contributors in helping out in different forms
> - pages attempting to help users with common or less common issues
> - reports of past events
> - some of these pages are generic, others are platform dependent,...
> - however most pages don't specify their intent clearly so in several cases
> it's difficult to judge whether the page is for what you are looking for or
> not
> - some pages have current information, others are for historical interest
> only
> - ...
>
> So what do we want to achieve with the wiki ?
> Do we manage to achieve it ?
>
> I believe we would be beneficial find an answer to these questions so we
> can
> more clearly guide the content creation in the wiki.
>
> From what I see the wiki is currently rather chaotic. I realize wikis
> usually
> are. However I think a wiki can be more. So a few first suggestions:
>
> - At the very least the content that's there could do with some structuring
> (again a concept not native to wikis), for example by making better use of
> well thought out categories.
>
> - Depending on the answer to my first question, I would also propose to
> drop
> certain pages, to start with the obsolete announcements and README pages.
>
> From there I'm very open to other suggestions to improve it. Please join
> in!
>
> Regards,
>
> Geert
>
> [0] Gathered from here: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Special:Statistics
> [1] http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?
> title=Special:AllPages=1
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Re: Gnucash wiki

[Geert Janssens]

Oh, and probably important as well: while I am very interested in seeing 
improvements to the wiki, I am not in a position to actually bring the change 
about. I personally have enough to do as it is. So... if you care as well, 
please seriously consider stepping up and offer a helping hand. Chance are 
nothing will change otherwise :)

Thanks!

Geert

On donderdag 18 mei 2017 19:25:20 CEST Geert Janssens wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> A recent thread on a page in our wiki on lots raised the potential pitfall
> of having draft pages in our wiki as rightfully pointed out by David T.
> 
> I don't consider me a wiki maintainer really though I have contributed to
> some pages. This minor incident did get me thinking though. And I want to
> discuss the following question with a broader audience:
> 
> What do we want our wiki to be ?
> 
> A few statistics [0] for those interested in contributing to this
> discussion:
> 
> 1. The wiki currently has 221 real content pages [1] of varying quality and
> usefulness.
> 2. In addition there are 310 additional related pages like redirects, talk
> pages,...
> 3. There are 12 admins, of which only a handful is still active as far as I
> know (and I didn't know *I* was one of them)
> 4. Looking at the content pages list, I find about 53 pages are ancient
> release announcements or readme files for obsolete gnucash versions.
> 
> In its current form it's a mixed bag of all kinds of content
> - pages attempting to guide contributors in helping out in different forms
> - pages attempting to help users with common or less common issues
> - reports of past events
> - some of these pages are generic, others are platform dependent,...
> - however most pages don't specify their intent clearly so in several cases
> it's difficult to judge whether the page is for what you are looking for or
> not
> - some pages have current information, others are for historical interest
> only - ...
> 
> So what do we want to achieve with the wiki ?
> Do we manage to achieve it ?
> 
> I believe we would be beneficial find an answer to these questions so we can
> more clearly guide the content creation in the wiki.
> 
> From what I see the wiki is currently rather chaotic. I realize wikis
> usually are. However I think a wiki can be more. So a few first
> suggestions:
> 
> - At the very least the content that's there could do with some structuring
> (again a concept not native to wikis), for example by making better use of
> well thought out categories.
> 
> - Depending on the answer to my first question, I would also propose to drop
> certain pages, to start with the obsolete announcements and README pages.
> 
> From there I'm very open to other suggestions to improve it. Please join in!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> [0] Gathered from here: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Special:Statistics
> [1] http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?
> title=Special:AllPages=1
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Re: gnucash wiki - overall table of contents

[Christian Stimming]

Am Dienstag, 25. März 2014, 11:32:57 schrieb Alex Aycinena:
  A wiki it typically not hierarchical and meant to be a bunch of pages
  loosely linked together. Search is the main method to get around.

I can confirm this once more: Our wiki implementation, MediaWiki, is 
particularly bad in structuring the whole lot of pages that exist. Instead, 
the only useful way of navigating around is the search function, indeed.

There are other wiki implementations around, such as plone, which enfore a 
usable structure on the content, which enables things such as meaningful site 
maps and/or table of contents. But not with the MediaWiki that we're using - 
sorry.

Christian


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Re: gnucash wiki - overall table of contents

[Geert Janssens]

On Tuesday 25 March 2014 10:38:36 Alex Aycinena wrote:
 Whenever I have followed a link, say from an e-mail or something, to a
 specific topic in the gnucash wiki it works fine to get to the
 specific topic. When I go to the overall top page, while there are
 links to many sub-topics, there doesn't seem to be an over-all table
 of contents for the wiki. So if I want to go back to a topic I've
 seen before, I don't know how to get there (other than by using
 search) if it is not one of the topics on the overall page.
 
 Is there a way do see all available wiki pages that I don't know of
 for gnucash users? Can developers see this by looking somewhere, like
 at a directory structure, that users wouldn't be able to see?
 
 Thanks for feedback.
 
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A wiki it typically not hierarchical and meant to be a bunch of pages loosely 
linked together. 
Search is the main method to get around.

Having said that, there is a Special Pages link in the left-hand menu. That 
link will lead you 
to an overview of - well - special pages,  which are links to specific searches.

One of these links is the All pages link which will give you a complete 
overview of what's in 
the wiki.

You may find some of the other pages useful as well got get around.

Geert
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Re: gnucash wiki - overall table of contents

[Alex Aycinena]

Geert,


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Geert Janssens
janssens-ge...@telenet.bewrote:

  On Tuesday 25 March 2014 10:38:36 Alex Aycinena wrote:

  Whenever I have followed a link, say from an e-mail or something, to a

  specific topic in the gnucash wiki it works fine to get to the

  specific topic. When I go to the overall top page, while there are

  links to many sub-topics, there doesn't seem to be an over-all table

  of contents for the wiki. So if I want to go back to a topic I've

  seen before, I don't know how to get there (other than by using

  search) if it is not one of the topics on the overall page.

 

  Is there a way do see all available wiki pages that I don't know of

  for gnucash users? Can developers see this by looking somewhere, like

  at a directory structure, that users wouldn't be able to see?

 

  Thanks for feedback.

 

  Alex

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 A wiki it typically not hierarchical and meant to be a bunch of pages
 loosely linked together. Search is the main method to get around.



 Having said that, there is a Special Pages link in the left-hand menu.
 That link will lead you to an overview of - well - special pages, which are
 links to specific searches.



 One of these links is the All pages link which will give you a complete
 overview of what's in the wiki.



 You may find some of the other pages useful as well got get around.



 Geert

Thanks for the info - it is what I wanted.

Alex
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Re: GnuCash WIKI Restored from backup -- recent changes lost

[Geert Janssens]

On zondag 3 juli 2011, John Ralls wrote:
 Great, thanks. Fortunately I'd only done one successful edit this week and
 the history was still in my browser. Hope that's true of everyone else.
 
 Perhaps a deeper backup strategy is in order: Save one daily/week for a
 month, and one weekly/month for 3 months or something like that.
 
I unfortunately wrote a complete release manager's guide for the 
documentation...

How did you recover your change from your browser cache ? That would save me 
here.

Geert
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Re: GnuCash WIKI Restored from backup -- recent changes lost

[John Ralls]

On Jul 5, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:

 On zondag 3 juli 2011, John Ralls wrote:
 Great, thanks. Fortunately I'd only done one successful edit this week and
 the history was still in my browser. Hope that's true of everyone else.
 
 Perhaps a deeper backup strategy is in order: Save one daily/week for a
 month, and one weekly/month for 3 months or something like that.
 
 I unfortunately wrote a complete release manager's guide for the 
 documentation...
 
 How did you recover your change from your browser cache ? That would save me 
 here.

I still had the page open in which I'd done the edit, so a few presses of the 
back button brought it back. You could try switching your browser to 
offline mode and then load the page from history. If it's still in the cache 
you might luck out.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: GnuCash WIKI Restored from backup -- recent changes lost

[Geert Janssens]

On dinsdag 5 juli 2011, John Ralls wrote:
 On Jul 5, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:
  On zondag 3 juli 2011, John Ralls wrote:
  Great, thanks. Fortunately I'd only done one successful edit this week
  and the history was still in my browser. Hope that's true of everyone
  else.
  
  Perhaps a deeper backup strategy is in order: Save one daily/week for a
  month, and one weekly/month for 3 months or something like that.
  
  I unfortunately wrote a complete release manager's guide for the
  documentation...
  
  How did you recover your change from your browser cache ? That would save
  me here.
 
 I still had the page open in which I'd done the edit, so a few presses of
 the back button brought it back. You could try switching your browser to
 offline mode and then load the page from history. If it's still in the
 cache you might luck out.
 
 Regards,
 John Ralls
Sadly, that didn't work. :(

I'll have to redo that page, but I probably won't have the time to do so until 
August. Should I forget, I'll pick it up at the next documentation release.

Geert
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Re: GnuCash WIKI Restored from backup -- recent changes lost

[Cristian Marchi]

I opened that page to take a fast look when i read about it, but I can't 
open it again when offline...I'm sorry because Geert did a really good 
job. It's a shame that his efforts got lost.


BTW thanks for taking the time to write about the process.

Il 05/07/2011 16:38, Geert Janssens ha scritto:

On dinsdag 5 juli 2011, John Ralls wrote:

On Jul 5, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:

On zondag 3 juli 2011, John Ralls wrote:

Great, thanks. Fortunately I'd only done one successful edit this week
and the history was still in my browser. Hope that's true of everyone
else.

Perhaps a deeper backup strategy is in order: Save one daily/week for a
month, and one weekly/month for 3 months or something like that.

I unfortunately wrote a complete release manager's guide for the
documentation...

How did you recover your change from your browser cache ? That would save
me here.

I still had the page open in which I'd done the edit, so a few presses of
the back button brought it back. You could try switching your browser to
offline mode and then load the page from history. If it's still in the
cache you might luck out.

Regards,
John Ralls

Sadly, that didn't work. :(

I'll have to redo that page, but I probably won't have the time to do so until
August. Should I forget, I'll pick it up at the next documentation release.

Geert
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Re: GnuCash WIKI Restored from backup -- recent changes lost

[Derek Atkins]

Geert Janssens janssens-ge...@telenet.be writes:

 Sadly, that didn't work. :(

 I'll have to redo that page, but I probably won't have the time to do so 
 until 
 August. Should I forget, I'll pick it up at the next documentation release.

I'm very sorry, Geert.

In the future I will try harder to save the data or at least look at the
history and look at the changes before reverting to a backup.

 Geert

-derek

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Re: GnuCash WIKI Restored from backup -- recent changes lost

[John Ralls]

On Jul 2, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Derek Atkins wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Sat, July 2, 2011 3:31 pm, John Ralls wrote:
 
 On Jul 2, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Derek Atkins wrote:
 
 I'll fix it when I get home.
 
 
 OK.
 
 To add to your list, I'm trying to edit the OSX release notes at
 http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSX/2.4.6/Readme
 When I click on any of the edit links, I get
 A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the
 software. The last attempted database query was:
 (SQL query hidden)
 from within function Title::isDeletedQuick. Database returned error
 126: Incorrect key file for table './wiki/archive.MYI'; try to repair it
 (localhost).
 
 I can edit http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git without any problems.
 
 I'm afraid that MySQL ate itself!!  Most of the wiki database pages were
 bad, and the backups had been failing since June 28th.  I had to reload
 the database as of the backup made on June 27th.  I'm afraid that all
 changes that have been made to the wiki since Jun 27 03:22 US/EDT have
 been lost.  This includes new pages, changes to pages, new users, etc.
 
 I appologize for the inconvenience, but I couldn't fix the mysql databases
 no matter what magic mysql check and repair commands I tried.
 
 I'm sorry.
 
 HOWEVER, it should now be working correctly, so you shouldn't have any
 issues.  If you do, please let me know.
 
 Luckily we found this before we lost the last good backup!!  (Backups only
 stick around for a week).

Great, thanks. Fortunately I'd only done one successful edit this week and the 
history was still in my browser. Hope that's true of everyone else.

Perhaps a deeper backup strategy is in order: Save one daily/week for a month, 
and one weekly/month for 3 months or something like that.

Regards,
John Ralls
 
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Re: gnucash - wiki server offline

[John Ralls]

On Apr 5, 2011, at 12:53 AM, Benjamin Eckl wrote:

 Hey guys,
 I was browsing around gnucash websites and discovered, gnucash wiki website 
 brings up connection failed error.

Seems to be OK now.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: gnucash - wiki server offline

[Derek Atkins]

John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us writes:

 On Apr 5, 2011, at 12:53 AM, Benjamin Eckl wrote:

 Hey guys,
 I was browsing around gnucash websites and discovered, gnucash wiki website 
 brings up connection failed error.

 Seems to be OK now.

Yeah, we had a power outage overnight that lasted beyond the
capabilities of my UPSes.

 Regards,
 John Ralls

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Re: GNUCash wiki pages on gnomesupport

[David Neary]

Hi,

Christian Stimming wrote:
 So for us it would be fine if you move the content over to live.gnome.org. We 
 would just like to ask for some transistion period, maybe 2-4 weeks, during 
 which the old gnomesupport-wiki is still online (maybe in read-only state?), 
 so that we have some time to change the links in our own website and 
 documentation. Apart from that, you can just decide for yourself when and how 
 to do this step.

The current idea is to move the pages over one at a time, and if
the gnomesupport wiki allows it, add a pointer to the equivalent
live.gnome.org page, and set the gnomesupport page read-only.
That way, the old data stays on line, and contains a link to the
new.

Once all the pages on the gnomesupport wiki are read-only, stro
will decide how long the old wiki should stay online, but there
will definitely be a grace period.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: GNUCash wiki pages on gnomesupport

[Christian Stimming]

Hi Dave,

I and the GnuCash developers didn't know of the live.gnome.org wiki, so the 
gnomesupport one was the only one that we knew in the gnome community. For us 
it's just fine if you guys prefer to move one into the other. (IIRC the 
MoinMoin-wiki of live.gnome.org is also the more powerful wiki system, but 
that's rather an implementation detail.) 

So for us it would be fine if you move the content over to live.gnome.org. We 
would just like to ask for some transistion period, maybe 2-4 weeks, during 
which the old gnomesupport-wiki is still online (maybe in read-only state?), 
so that we have some time to change the links in our own website and 
documentation. Apart from that, you can just decide for yourself when and how 
to do this step.

Regards,

Christian


Am Sonntag, 30. Januar 2005 20:07 schrieb David Neary:
 Hi there,

 I have been talking to Claus Schwarm and stro over the past
 couple of days about whether we would be able to consolidate the
 two wikis for GNOME (gnomesupport and live.gnome.org) into one.
 It seems that you are one of the main projects actively using the
 gnomesupport wiki, so I wanted to get your opinions on this too.

 The idea is to work towards getting the user and developer sides
 of GNOME closer together, and reducing the number of points
 of entry into the GNOME community. We currently have loads of
 ways to communicate around GNOME, but because of the vast number
 of IRC channels, mailing lists, support forums and websites,
 requests for help can often get lost simply because the people
 best able to answer don't read the forum the request is posted
 on.

 One step in the right direction, and a relatively easy one to
 make, is to migrate the information off the gnomesupport wiki
 onto the live.gnome.org one (the other way would also work, but
 there appears to be slightly more information on l.g.o right now,
 and it is an official GNOME site, with standard stylesheets and
 the like, so going that way makes more sense to me).

 Would such a move cause problems for you and your project?

 Cheers,
 Dave.

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