Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items

[David T. via gnucash-user]

Honestly, the button could be removed altogether in my opinion. The close "X" 
on tabs is pretty standard in other apps, and has the benefit of being a direct 
action that most users understand intuitively. 

⁣David T. ​

On Apr 12, 2023, 1:07 AM, at 1:07 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
 wrote:
>I agree, the button could be more precise in its label.
>
>The tool tip in the status bar on hovering that button says, "close the
>
>currently active page".
>
>The functionality of that button and the entire toolbar (the UI really)
>
>is also covered in the Manual.
>
>I'd say this is a, "read the manual" sort of problem and GnuCash is 
>working as intended.
>
>Regards,
>Adrien
>
>On 4/11/23 4:12 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
>> The button in the toolbar should say "Close Tab", that would make it
>clearer.  In windows, the OP should get used to closing Gnucash with
>the "X" in the upper right corner.  As for the tabs, under
>Edit/Preferences/Windows and then the heading Tabs you can select to
>put a "Close Button" actually an "X" on each tab to close that tab.
>That way you don't have to memorize Crtl+W or Alt+F4, not that it is
>that difficult.
>
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Re: [GNC] Command line quotes still not fixed

[Bruce Schuck]

On 4/11/23 6:51 PM, David G. Pickett wrote:

Maybe patch the code to load a junk string in there 
"Enter_your_key_here" and suppress the warning?


I have been thinking about that. I haven't tested if bogus API keys are 
subject to the same limitations as the free keys, but I think it would 
lead to other issues when it works for some people earlier in the day, 
but after the 500 per day limit is reached then getting quotes or 
exchange rates fail. And that would be for other people, or those who it 
worked for earlier in the day.


On top of that, we humans can be quite lazy. If someone notices their 
AlphaVantage stock quotes or exchange rates work, they may not bother 
with getting their own real free API key.


Still, setting the dummy key if none is supplied may make it into F::Q 
v1.55 (may be pushed to CPAN next month).


- Bruce S.
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Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'm curious how separate windows for registers is advantageous over 
separate tabs. I routinely keep several registers open as well as 
reports - all in tabs, and can easily switch between them. I've never 
found a point where I'd like, or need, to see two tabs (and thus 
windows) simultaneously.


That's just a curiosity.

I can see that if you need, or prefer working with separate windows, 
however, there should be a way to get everything to re-open on a 
subsequent launch.


Regards,
Adrien

On 4/11/23 5:23 PM, Paul Kroitor wrote:

Perhaps the OP's issue is variation of a slightly different issue that I've
asked about in the past.

I have Gnucash set so the tabs are across the top, and reports open as
additional tabs in the main window. I can open and configure many reports
during a session, and these reports survive a close and re-open. Thus I
configure each set of books to have all my favourite reports and graphs
available immediately upon opening the file.

BUT I have my registers set to open in separate windows (so I can work in
more than one at a time). The upshot is that if I close all the register
windows first, and then the main window (the one with the Chart of Accounts,
reports, graphs, etc), it all works as intended.

However, if one of the register windows is still open somewhere -- hidden
behind another app, perhaps -- when I close the main window, everything is
catastrophically lost. Reopening the file opens only the straggling register
window and I have to
re-establish a Chart of Accounts tab, and then labouriously reconstruct all
the reports and graphs I like.

I've been meaning to code a warning upon close if the main window (the
window including the Chart of Accounts tab) is ever closed when other
floating windows are still open, as this presumably would never happen on
purpose -- perhaps I will get to it one of these months as it drives me
crazy.


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Re: [GNC] Command line quotes still not fixed

[David G. Pickett via gnucash-user]

Maybe patch the code to load a junk string in there "Enter_your_key_here" and 
suppress the warning?


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From: Bruce Schuck 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
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Sent: Mon, Apr 10, 2023 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: [GNC] Command line quotes still not fixed

On 10 Apr 2023 09:22:04 -0500R Losey wrote:

> You could always get a key (they are free) and have it set.

Sh, don't tell anyone but I stumbled on a bug with the 
authentication of the AlphaVantage API Key. Make one up!

Using "NOTAREALAPIKEY" as the key, I found that lookups work. I hit on 
this when testing updates to the AlphaVantage.pm module to see what is 
returned for invalid as well as blank/unset key.

curl 
'https://www.alphavantage.co/query?function=TIME_SERIES_INTRADAY=NXPI=5min=NOTAREALAPIKEY'

I sent AlphaVantage an email about this last year and never got a 
response, nor did the issue get fixed.

In related news, I am just about finished testing a new currency module 
for Finance::Quote that gets the data from Yahoo. No API key needed.

Along with this I am thinking about using an environment variable 
(FQ_CURRENCY) to allow users to choose their preferred currency exchange 
API. If not set a default will be used, currently AlphaVantage, but that 
may change to YahooJSON so users will not have to worry about setting 
both it and an AV API key. Feel free to discuss this at 
https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote/discussions/239.

- Bruce S.
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Re: [GNC] libboost problem compiling gnucash 5.0

[john]

> On Apr 11, 2023, at 6:52 AM, John Griessen  wrote:
> 
> any ideas how to fix this on ubuntu   22.04.2?
> 
> dpkg -l '*boost*'
> 
> ii  libboost-filesystem1.74-dev:amd64  1.74.0-14ubuntu3 amd64
> filesystem operations (portable paths, iteration over directories, etc) in C++
> ii  libboost-filesystem1.74.0:amd641.74.0-14ubuntu3 amd64
> filesystem operations (portable paths, iteration over directories, etc) in C++
> 
> dpkg -l '*guile*'
> ii  guile-2.22.2.7+1-6build2 amd64GNU extension language 
> and Scheme interpreter
> ii  guile-2.2-dev2.2.7+1-6build2 amd64Development files for 
> Guile 2.2
> un  guile-2.2-doc (no description 
> available)
> ii  guile-2.2-libs:amd64 2.2.7+1-6build2 amd64Core Guile libraries
> 
> 
> ==
> 
> 65%] Building C object 
> gnucash/register/register-gnome/CMakeFiles/gnc-register-gnome.dir/combocell-gnome.c.o
> [ 65%] Building C object 
> gnucash/import-export/csv-imp/CMakeFiles/gnc-csv-import.dir/assistant-csv-account-import.c.o
> /bin/guile: symbol lookup error: 
> /usr/local/src/gnucash-5.0-build/lib/libgnc-core-utils.so: undefined symbol: 
> _ZN5boost10filesystem4path9append_v3ERKS1_
> make[2]: *** [gnucash/report/CMakeFiles/scm-report-1.dir/build.make:89: 
> lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnucash/report/commodity-utilities.go]
>  Error 127
> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> [ 65%] Building CXX object 
> gnucash/import-export/csv-imp/CMakeFiles/gnc-csv-import.dir/assistant-csv-price-import.cpp.o
> /bin/guile: symbol lookup error: 
> /usr/local/src/gnucash-5.0-build/lib/libgnc-core-utils.so: undefined symbol: 
> _ZN5boost10filesystem4path9append_v3ERKS1_
> make[2]: *** [gnucash/report/CMakeFiles/scm-report-1.dir/build.make:94: 
> lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnucash/report/html-acct-table.go] 
> Error 127
> make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:8271: 
> gnucash/report/CMakeFiles/scm-report-1.dir/all] Error 2
> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs

You need to install libboost-program-options.1.74.0

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] New GnuCash file and importing Chart of Accounts

[Michael or Penny Novack]

5. Enter a transaction to make all the starting balances in the new file
match the ending balances from the old file, referring to the report you
saved in step 1.


Yes, you could use a single, massive transaction split on both the debit 
and credit side. Or you could use two massive transactions, one spit on 
the debit side and one on the credit side.


But there is nothing wrong with taking the easy way and entering one 
transaction for each account in the balance sheet (each account of type 
asset or liability). The other side of each of these would be an account 
under equity (you could give it a name like ":equity at start of year). 
. When you have entered transactions for every non-zero asset of 
liability account, the balance of this account should match the equity 
on the Balance Sheet you were working form.



Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] New GnuCash file and importing Chart of Accounts

[Stan Brown (using GC 2.6.19)]

On 2023-04-11 15:50, Jay Bouxsein wrote:

> I am running version 2.6.7.

Wow! That's older even than my version, 2.6.19.

> I have worked with my accountant to use GnuCash to assist him in
> preparing end of year tax returns and he has suggested that I open 
> new books at the beginning of each new year.
I don't know why your accountant recommended that, as it's extra work.
One alternative would be simply to make a copy of the file at year-end
and archive that copy. But that's not what you were asking about, so ...

> Basically I want to create a new GnuCash file for tax year 2023 and
> export into it the Chart of Accounts used by my 2022 GnuCash file.
> Not the data, just the Chart of Accounts.
1. In the old file, create a balance sheet report. You'll need it in
step 5, so print it or export it to HTML or something.

2. Click File » Export » Export Account Tree to CSV.

3. Click File » New File. You should see all tabs except Accounts
disappear, and that one will be empty.

4. Click File » Import » Import Accounts from CSV.

5. Enter a transaction to make all the starting balances in the new file
match the ending balances from the old file, referring to the report you
saved in step 1.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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[GNC] New GnuCash file and importing Chart of Accounts

[Jay Bouxsein]

At the outset, I must confess that I am a senior who increasingly has
difficulties using complicated software products, especially accounting
products because I do not have detailed accounting knowledge but I do know
the basics. I have worked with my accountant to use GnuCash to assist him
in preparing end of year tax returns and he has suggested that I open new
books at the beginning of each new year.  I mostly use the checkbook
register which accepts the check and deposit details and organizes them
into appropriate sub accounts.  I produce a P & L with expanded details and
he works his magic.

I am running version 2.6.7.  I have created new GnuCash files in the past,
but this year I am stuck. I just cannot remember how I did it in the past.
I found a section in the Help materials which seemed to offer a good
solution but when I tried it, I was unsuccessful and now I can't even find
the precise section I had been using, not even whether it was in the
Tutorial materials or the general manual. (Short term memory problems I
guess.)

Basically I want to create a new GnuCash file for tax year 2023 and export
into it the Chart of Accounts used by my 2022 GnuCash file. Not the data,
just the Chart of Accounts.  I know I could start from scratch and work my
way through the Setup Assistant, but I want to avoid the possibility of
introducing errors not found in my 2022 file. I came across a statement in
the Help materials stating the an easy way to achieve my goal was to go to
the file menu and select "Export " and from the three options drop down
select "Export Accounts" and in the window which opens I should be able to
not only transfer the Chart of Accounts, but create the new GnuCash file I
want to create.

My attempts have failed because I believe that I am not pushing the right
keys at the right time in the right order.  I really need detailed
instructions.  Can any of you help?

Jay B
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Re: [GNC] How to import PayPal transactions in to GC

[Greg McCarthy]

Thanks for all the tips. I've been looking through tutorials and reading 
up on double system accounting and have a better understanding on how it 
all works.



On 11/04/2023 15:30, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:


As others have mentioned, you should read up on the rules of double 
entry
bookkeeping. If GnuCash cannot identify the proper account, it puts 
it in
the account call "Unbalanced" - this account should BTW always be 
ZERO

Anything in "unbalanced" is a mistake somewhere.


A little closer to reality is that anything LEFT in 
Unbalanced/Imbalance is a mistake. But there only temporarily might be 
OK if :working on it".


For example, when entering a transaction you might realize that one 
component might more properly be an account not yet in your CoA. And 
while you could maybe deal with that "on the fly" I often find that IF 
that new account existed, OTHER (earlier) transactions should have 
referenced it.


For example, imagine an expense account X. It has been used as the 
debit account for a number of transaction all of which would be 
thought related to "x". But now I am entering a transaction where 
there is enough difference that it seems advisable to create a new 
account Y. But if the "y" category exists, some of the transactions 
now posted to X really should be in Y because more "y" lie than "x" 
like. So I'd allow the transaction I was entering to complete 
leaving the amount in Imbalance and finish the work of entering that 
stack of transactions. When done, I'd do what was needed to clear up 
anything left in Imbalance. Create the new account Y, possibly a 
placeholder parent for X and Y (if they weren't related in some way, 
wouldn't have had this problem). go through X to find all transactions 
that should really be in Y and do that, and then deal with the one in 
Imbalance << done last, because as long as there know "not done yet">>


IF you are in business .. It is common or at least possible that a 
payment comes in that you are unsure about (what customer, what 
invoice, etc.). Good practice is not to sit on that check, deposit 
with the rest but the other side in an account with the name 
"Suspense". Again, anything left in there means something to be dealt 
with. In businesses of any size, might be a different worker bee who 
specializes in solving the mysteries << might require some days 
elapsed time, emailing or calling customers, etc. >> So just like 
Imbalance, anything remaining in "Suspense" means something needing work.



Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Reports will not display on screen, print to file works == Solved

[Jeff]

On 4/11/23 3:53 PM, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:

i have the same version and build and i am able to view reports

can you try apt get update and also re install the application



Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


*From:* gnucash-user 
 on 
behalf of Jeff 

*Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2023 2:13 PM
*To:* Gnucash userlist 
*Subject:* [GNC] Reports will not display on screen, print to file works
Running:

Version: 5.0
Build ID: Flathub 5.0-1
Finance::Quote: 1.5301

on Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS

I do not know when my system upgraded GNC from the prior stable version
4, it was running version 4 a few days ago.  None of the reports will
display on screen in version 5.0-1.  In order to see any report I have
to print it to file.

I looked in the bug reports and did not see any similar submission.

GNC did this to me in a prior version but, I do not remember the fix.
If there is not a workaround, how do I remove 5.0-1 and reinstall the
last stable 4 release.

  print it--
--JEffrey Black M.B.A.

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After uninstalling everything I could from the command line and 
reinstalling, GNC 5.0 will now display reports in a tab, as it should.  
It still has some date handling issues that I need to research further 
after tax season.


And I did notice that the "about" screen is different after 
removing/reinstalling version 5.0, with exception to the version 
numbers.  This install displays the "GNC_*:  /'install path'" for DATA, 
CONF, etc.  The prior install did not show these.


At the moment it looks like the problem is solved.

--
--JEffrey Black M.B.A.
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Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items

[Paul Kroitor]

Perhaps the OP's issue is variation of a slightly different issue that I've
asked about in the past.

I have Gnucash set so the tabs are across the top, and reports open as
additional tabs in the main window. I can open and configure many reports
during a session, and these reports survive a close and re-open. Thus I
configure each set of books to have all my favourite reports and graphs
available immediately upon opening the file.

BUT I have my registers set to open in separate windows (so I can work in
more than one at a time). The upshot is that if I close all the register
windows first, and then the main window (the one with the Chart of Accounts,
reports, graphs, etc), it all works as intended.

However, if one of the register windows is still open somewhere -- hidden
behind another app, perhaps -- when I close the main window, everything is
catastrophically lost. Reopening the file opens only the straggling register
window and I have to 
re-establish a Chart of Accounts tab, and then labouriously reconstruct all
the reports and graphs I like.

I've been meaning to code a warning upon close if the main window (the
window including the Chart of Accounts tab) is ever closed when other
floating windows are still open, as this presumably would never happen on
purpose -- perhaps I will get to it one of these months as it drives me
crazy.

Paul


-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On
Behalf Of Stan Brown
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 3:05 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items


I read the OP's question a little differently. I think the OP wants some way
to tell GnuCash, "When I click the "Close" button, I don't want the
currently open tab to close." In other words, I don't think it's about what
happens when GC reopens, it's about having GC ignore a button click that the
user didn't mean to make.

I can sympathize: It took me a while to learn that the Close button doesn't
close the program, as I would have expected, and even now every once in a
while I close a tab when I wanted to close the program.
(Close buttons on a tab should close that tab; a close button not on a tab
should close the program -- or so it seems to me.)

But that's how GC works, and we just have to learn it. I didn't post an
answer earlier because I don't think there's any way to change this
behavior.

One thing that might help the OP, at least in Windows, is never to sue the
Close button but instead close a tab (when desired) with Ctrl+W and close
the program (if desired) with Alt+F4.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com

On 2023-04-11 11:49, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> I've never seen a case where the open tabs *don't* re-open when I next 
> open the file.
> 
> That's already a feature.
> 
> Maybe there is a reason it isn't working properly on your system.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 4/11/23 5:30 AM, G R Hewitt wrote:
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> I was just wondering if there was anyway to prevent (lock) opened 
>> tabs from being closed.
>>
>> I have all the things I use - P, BS etc., on the right, and just 
>> can't seem to break the habit of clicking 'Close' to close the 
>> program, which closes the open tab instead.>
>>
>> If not, could this be added as a feature at some point?
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Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items

[Adrien Monteleone]

I agree, the button could be more precise in its label.

The tool tip in the status bar on hovering that button says, "close the 
currently active page".


The functionality of that button and the entire toolbar (the UI really) 
is also covered in the Manual.


I'd say this is a, "read the manual" sort of problem and GnuCash is 
working as intended.


Regards,
Adrien

On 4/11/23 4:12 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:

The button in the toolbar should say "Close Tab", that would make it clearer.  In windows, the OP should get 
used to closing Gnucash with the "X" in the upper right corner.  As for the tabs, under 
Edit/Preferences/Windows and then the heading Tabs you can select to put a "Close Button" actually an 
"X" on each tab to close that tab. That way you don't have to memorize Crtl+W or Alt+F4, not that it is that 
difficult.


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Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items

[Gyle McCollam]

The button in the toolbar should say "Close Tab", that would make it clearer.  
In windows, the OP should get used to closing Gnucash with the "X" in the upper 
right corner.  As for the tabs, under Edit/Preferences/Windows and then the 
heading Tabs you can select to put a "Close Button" actually an "X" on each tab 
to close that tab. That way you don't have to memorize Crtl+W or Alt+F4, not 
that it is that difficult.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Stan Brown 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 3:04 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items


I read the OP's question a little differently. I think the OP wants some
way to tell GnuCash, "When I click the "Close" button, I don't want the
currently open tab to close." In other words, I don't think it's about
what happens when GC reopens, it's about having GC ignore a button click
that the user didn't mean to make.

I can sympathize: It took me a while to learn that the Close button
doesn't close the program, as I would have expected, and even now every
once in a  while I close a tab when I wanted to close the program.
(Close buttons on a tab should close that tab; a close button not on a
tab should close the program -- or so it seems to me.)

But that's how GC works, and we just have to learn it. I didn't post an
answer earlier because I don't think there's any way to change this
behavior.

One thing that might help the OP, at least in Windows, is never to sue
the Close button but instead close a tab (when desired) with Ctrl+W and
close the program (if desired) with Alt+F4.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com

On 2023-04-11 11:49, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> I've never seen a case where the open tabs *don't* re-open when I next
> open the file.
>
> That's already a feature.
>
> Maybe there is a reason it isn't working properly on your system.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 4/11/23 5:30 AM, G R Hewitt wrote:
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> I was just wondering if there was anyway to prevent (lock) opened
>> tabs from being closed.
>>
>> I have all the things I use - P, BS etc., on the right, and just
>> can't seem to break the habit of clicking 'Close' to close the
>> program, which closes the open tab instead.>
>>
>> If not, could this be added as a feature at some point?
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Re: [GNC] Reports will not display on screen, print to file works

[Murugan Muruganandam]

i have the same version and build and i am able to view reports

can you try apt get update and also re install the application




Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


From: gnucash-user 
 on behalf of Jeff 

Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 2:13 PM
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Subject: [GNC] Reports will not display on screen, print to file works

Running:

Version: 5.0
Build ID: Flathub 5.0-1
Finance::Quote: 1.5301

on Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS

I do not know when my system upgraded GNC from the prior stable version
4, it was running version 4 a few days ago.  None of the reports will
display on screen in version 5.0-1.  In order to see any report I have
to print it to file.

I looked in the bug reports and did not see any similar submission.

GNC did this to me in a prior version but, I do not remember the fix.
If there is not a workaround, how do I remove 5.0-1 and reinstall the
last stable 4 release.

  print it--
--JEffrey Black M.B.A.

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Re: [GNC] Reports will not display on screen, print to file works

[Jeff]

On 4/11/23 1:53 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Jeff,

Report display has to do with webkit.

Perhaps check to see if it needs updating as well, or if for some 
reason you've pinned an old version to prevent updating. (but then 
you'd need to recall why you pinned it so as not to break something 
else.)


That might not be the culprit, but it would be the first thing I'd check.

Regards,
Adrien

On 4/11/23 1:13 PM, Jeff wrote:

Running:

Version: 5.0
Build ID: Flathub 5.0-1
Finance::Quote: 1.5301

on Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS

I do not know when my system upgraded GNC from the prior stable 
version 4, it was running version 4 a few days ago.  None of the 
reports will display on screen in version 5.0-1.  In order to see any 
report I have to print it to file.


I looked in the bug reports and did not see any similar submission.

GNC did this to me in a prior version but, I do not remember the fix. 
If there is not a workaround, how do I remove 5.0-1 and reinstall the 
last stable 4 release.


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Near as I can tell, nothing is pinned.  GNC 5.0-1 just does not work 
with on screen reports (any of them), printing only (file and/or hard copy).


Webkit is current, at least according to Synaptic.

I'm at a loss.

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--JEffrey Black M.B.A.

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Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items

[Stan Brown]

I read the OP's question a little differently. I think the OP wants some
way to tell GnuCash, "When I click the "Close" button, I don't want the
currently open tab to close." In other words, I don't think it's about
what happens when GC reopens, it's about having GC ignore a button click
that the user didn't mean to make.

I can sympathize: It took me a while to learn that the Close button
doesn't close the program, as I would have expected, and even now every
once in a  while I close a tab when I wanted to close the program.
(Close buttons on a tab should close that tab; a close button not on a
tab should close the program -- or so it seems to me.)

But that's how GC works, and we just have to learn it. I didn't post an
answer earlier because I don't think there's any way to change this
behavior.

One thing that might help the OP, at least in Windows, is never to sue
the Close button but instead close a tab (when desired) with Ctrl+W and
close the program (if desired) with Alt+F4.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com

On 2023-04-11 11:49, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> I've never seen a case where the open tabs *don't* re-open when I next
> open the file.
> 
> That's already a feature.
> 
> Maybe there is a reason it isn't working properly on your system.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 4/11/23 5:30 AM, G R Hewitt wrote:
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> I was just wondering if there was anyway to prevent (lock) opened
>> tabs from being closed.
>>
>> I have all the things I use - P, BS etc., on the right, and just
>> can't seem to break the habit of clicking 'Close' to close the
>> program, which closes the open tab instead.>
>>
>> If not, could this be added as a feature at some point?
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Re: [GNC] Reports will not display on screen, print to file works

[Adrien Monteleone]

Jeff,

Report display has to do with webkit.

Perhaps check to see if it needs updating as well, or if for some reason 
you've pinned an old version to prevent updating. (but then you'd need 
to recall why you pinned it so as not to break something else.)


That might not be the culprit, but it would be the first thing I'd check.

Regards,
Adrien

On 4/11/23 1:13 PM, Jeff wrote:

Running:

Version: 5.0
Build ID: Flathub 5.0-1
Finance::Quote: 1.5301

on Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS

I do not know when my system upgraded GNC from the prior stable version 
4, it was running version 4 a few days ago.  None of the reports will 
display on screen in version 5.0-1.  In order to see any report I have 
to print it to file.


I looked in the bug reports and did not see any similar submission.

GNC did this to me in a prior version but, I do not remember the fix. If 
there is not a workaround, how do I remove 5.0-1 and reinstall the last 
stable 4 release.


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Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items

[Adrien Monteleone]

I've never seen a case where the open tabs *don't* re-open when I next 
open the file.


That's already a feature.

Maybe there is a reason it isn't working properly on your system.

Regards,
Adrien

On 4/11/23 5:30 AM, G R Hewitt wrote:

Greetings all,

I was just wondering if there was anyway to prevent (lock) opened tabs from
being closed.
I have all the things I use - P, BS etc., on the right, and just can't
seem
to break the habit of clicking 'Close' to close the program, which closes
the open tab instead.

If not, could this be added as a feature at some point?


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[GNC] Reports will not display on screen, print to file works

[Jeff]

Running:

Version: 5.0
Build ID: Flathub 5.0-1
Finance::Quote: 1.5301

on Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS

I do not know when my system upgraded GNC from the prior stable version 
4, it was running version 4 a few days ago.  None of the reports will 
display on screen in version 5.0-1.  In order to see any report I have 
to print it to file.


I looked in the bug reports and did not see any similar submission.

GNC did this to me in a prior version but, I do not remember the fix.  
If there is not a workaround, how do I remove 5.0-1 and reinstall the 
last stable 4 release.


 print it--
--JEffrey Black M.B.A.

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Re: [GNC] Registering Off Balance Sheet in GNUCash

[Stan Brown]

On 2023-04-11 07:25, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> I wanted to input off balance sheet items in gnucash , contingent asset and 
> contingent liabilities.  any of you have done this with existing account 
> structure?

The easy way is to enter a "transaction" with the amount of the
contingent liability as part of the description or memo field. Simply
leave the debit and credit amounts blank. Or rather than a separate
transaction for the contingency, you could enter it as a split within
the "real" transaction -- again, the key is to put amounts in the memo
field and not in the debit or credit column. Either way, be sure to
include some short string, for ease in finding these transactions later.

Obviously GnuCash will not do any sort of arithmetic on the amount in
the above. If doing arithmetic with them is a priority, then you can
create accounts for the contingencies, but you will need to deselect
those accounts in your regular balance sheet reports. You might also
want to take this approach if you have a lot of contingencies.

If you take the latter approach, you'll also need contingent income and
expense accounts; otherwise your transactions will be unbalanced. So
_those_ accounts will need to be excluded from your profit and loss
reports. Something that would make this easier is to create a top-level
account called Contingencies, with contingent assets, liabilities,
income, and expense under it. That will make it easier to exclude the
contingency accounts.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Registering Off Balance Sheet in GNUCash

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 4/11/2023 10:25 AM, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:

I wanted to input off balance sheet items in gnucash , contingent asset and 
contingent liabilities.  any of you have done this with existing account 
structure?


Yes, some of us might have very significant amounts of what is in effect 
our income, net worth, etc.) in things that involve "contingencies"


a) If in business and or an organization with significant contingent 
liabilities, seek professional help how they should be presented in 
reports. Note I mean the word "reports" in its more general sense, NOT a 
report directly out of gnucash, though the data might be from gnucash 
reports.


b) I'd keep the contingencies off the main books (the main Balance 
Sheet) but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be accounting for them as might 
be a very large component of "net worth", actual effective "income", 
etc. Keep in mind that gnucash can be keeping multiple sets of books, so 
you do have the choice of using gnucash to do that with instead of 
spread sheets, etc.


    Thus you could have a net worth (unconditional() form your main 
books balance sheet and a "contingent net worth" from your contingent 
books and you can add those up (outside of gnucash) to see your absolute 
+ contingent net worth total, your real + virtual income, etc.


c) There are other situations where you might be wanting to keep 
"virtual" sets of books. Thus when we had solar installed, I wanted to 
know how this was performing AS AN INVESTMENT. When would it have paid 
off for itself in reality (time value of money, imputed income and 
expenses, etc. -- not the overly simplified illustrations given you when 
they are selling you the system). To do that I created a set of books 
for the virtual entity "solar system" which "borrowed" from us it 
initial capital at (then) market rates for 20 year fixed rate money. The 
system had "income" in the form of utility bills paid on our behalf, 
SRECS sold, tax credits transferred to us, etc. It had expenses like 
"tax liability incurred", "portion of property insurance", "cost of 
repairs" (none ye), and "interest payments". As "cash" accumulated in 
the asset "undistributed cash" (in effect, the profits) this was used to 
pay down the liability (the loan we made to it) and when that reached 
zero, the loan was paid off. Each year, the total sake if SRECs in that 
year noted when filling out the 1040 (and state income tax) but 
otherwise no actual transactions between our personal set of books and 
this virtual set of books.


Of course NOW, with the system having paid off the loan, things are 
different. Profits going into a ":repair and replacement fund" which is 
in effect a zero interest loan it is giving to us << when we do 
eventually have to lay out money for repair/replacement we will see that 
not actually "from our pockets" but money the system had prior loaned to 
us against this evil day.


Note that this did NOT involve a great deal of duplicate data entry as 
only transactions involving real money entered into both sets of books. 
SRECs only sold quarterly, property insurance annually (no component for 
property taxes as in this state, home solar immune from that for 20 years)


d) Note that organizations that keep books on the cash basis (common) 
but whose membership wants "statements" can use a set of virtual books 
(under accrual) for just that purpose. This does require duplicate entry 
of transactions but these typically only one per member (unless paying 
monthly is allowed). The "virtual" set of books used only to track 
member status, who has paid, who still owes, etc. Everything else simply 
ignored. Note that is more closely resembles legal reality as membership 
dies for voluntary organizations is not actually a "receivable" (there 
is no legal requirement to renew, regardless of the rules of the 
organization*)


Michael D Novack

* For example, we belong to the Grange (Patrons of Husbandry). The rules 
of the organization require a "demit" to quit without penalty. But if we 
left (stopped paying dues) without having received permission (the 
"demit") this would come into play only if we later wanted to rejoin.



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Re: [GNC] How to run Year End Procedures for the Tax Year (UK end 5 April 2023), and start new Data set for the New Tax Year starting 6 April 2023

[Michael or Penny Novack]

/path/to/gnucash --nofile

That will invoke GnuCash without any Book/Ledger open, but you will
have the four most recentl entries in GnuCash's File menu, so you can
choose to open whichever one of the four you want to, rather than
having to hard-code any particular file at every startup time, or, as Stan
mentions, get the last one you worked on by default.

There's probably something similar in windows-land.

HTH
Kevin


<>

Of course there is.  End users usually just left click shortcuts, don't 
think about what that shortcut IS.


But if you right click the shortcut and choose "properties" from the 
menu you get to see what it IS. Among other things you will see "target 
type", "target location", and "target" --- the last will be the line 
left clicking the shortcut will submit << me, being from mainframe days, 
think of as "submit to the internal reader"


Anyway, you can edit that "target" line to add the parameter --nofile to 
the end  (after the .exe")


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] How to import PayPal transactions in to GC

[Michael or Penny Novack]

As others have mentioned, you should read up on the rules of double entry
bookkeeping. If GnuCash cannot identify the proper account, it puts it in
the account call "Unbalanced" - this account should BTW always be ZERO
Anything in "unbalanced" is a mistake somewhere.


A little closer to reality is that anything LEFT in Unbalanced/Imbalance 
is a mistake. But there only temporarily might be OK if :working on it".


For example, when entering a transaction you might realize that one 
component might more properly be an account not yet in your CoA. And 
while you could maybe deal with that "on the fly" I often find that IF 
that new account existed, OTHER (earlier) transactions should have 
referenced it.


For example, imagine an expense account X. It has been used as the debit 
account for a number of transaction all of which would be thought 
related to "x". But now I am entering a transaction where there is 
enough difference that it seems advisable to create a new account Y. But 
if the "y" category exists, some of the transactions now posted to X 
really should be in Y because more "y" lie than "x" like. So I'd 
allow the transaction I was entering to complete leaving the amount in 
Imbalance and finish the work of entering that stack of transactions. 
When done, I'd do what was needed to clear up anything left in 
Imbalance. Create the new account Y, possibly a placeholder parent for X 
and Y (if they weren't related in some way, wouldn't have had this 
problem). go through X to find all transactions that should really be in 
Y and do that, and then deal with the one in Imbalance << done last, 
because as long as there know "not done yet">>


IF you are in business .. It is common or at least possible that a 
payment comes in that you are unsure about (what customer, what invoice, 
etc.). Good practice is not to sit on that check, deposit with the rest 
but the other side in an account with the name "Suspense". Again, 
anything left in there means something to be dealt with. In businesses 
of any size, might be a different worker bee who specializes in solving 
the mysteries << might require some days elapsed time, emailing or 
calling customers, etc. >> So just like Imbalance, anything remaining in 
"Suspense" means something needing work.



Michael D Novack


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[GNC] Registering Off Balance Sheet in GNUCash

[Murugan Muruganandam]

I wanted to input off balance sheet items in gnucash , contingent asset and 
contingent liabilities.  any of you have done this with existing account 
structure?




Saludos Cordiales


Murugan
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[GNC] libboost problem compiling gnucash 5.0

[John Griessen]

any ideas how to fix this on ubuntu   22.04.2?

dpkg -l '*boost*'

ii  libboost-filesystem1.74-dev:amd64  1.74.0-14ubuntu3 amd64filesystem operations (portable paths, iteration over 
directories, etc) in C++
ii  libboost-filesystem1.74.0:amd641.74.0-14ubuntu3 amd64filesystem operations (portable paths, iteration over 
directories, etc) in C++


dpkg -l '*guile*'
ii  guile-2.22.2.7+1-6build2 amd64GNU extension language 
and Scheme interpreter
ii  guile-2.2-dev2.2.7+1-6build2 amd64Development files for 
Guile 2.2
un  guile-2.2-doc (no description available)
ii  guile-2.2-libs:amd64 2.2.7+1-6build2 amd64Core Guile libraries


==

65%] Building C object 
gnucash/register/register-gnome/CMakeFiles/gnc-register-gnome.dir/combocell-gnome.c.o
[ 65%] Building C object 
gnucash/import-export/csv-imp/CMakeFiles/gnc-csv-import.dir/assistant-csv-account-import.c.o
/bin/guile: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/src/gnucash-5.0-build/lib/libgnc-core-utils.so: undefined symbol: 
_ZN5boost10filesystem4path9append_v3ERKS1_
make[2]: *** [gnucash/report/CMakeFiles/scm-report-1.dir/build.make:89: 
lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnucash/report/commodity-utilities.go] Error 127

make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
[ 65%] Building CXX object 
gnucash/import-export/csv-imp/CMakeFiles/gnc-csv-import.dir/assistant-csv-price-import.cpp.o
/bin/guile: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/src/gnucash-5.0-build/lib/libgnc-core-utils.so: undefined symbol: 
_ZN5boost10filesystem4path9append_v3ERKS1_
make[2]: *** [gnucash/report/CMakeFiles/scm-report-1.dir/build.make:94: 
lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnucash/report/html-acct-table.go] Error 127

make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:8271: 
gnucash/report/CMakeFiles/scm-report-1.dir/all] Error 2
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs


--
John Griessen
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Re: [GNC] How to run Year End Procedures for the Tax Year (UK end 5 April 2023), and start new Data set for the New Tax Year starting 6 April 2023

[Kevin Buckley]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 at 07:09, Stan Brown  wrote:
>
>
> On 2023-04-07 14:09, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
> >
> > The point is, if you ever want to look at the books in their state prior
> > to the 2023 close you don't undo anything. Instead you retrieve the
> > back-up and open a copy of that.
>
> That's certainly possible, and I agree it's much better than undoing
> things. But there's a very large caveat:
>
> When you open GnuCash, it opens the file you were working on most
> recently. So you need to be very sure that you have opened the file you
> intended to, after you have finished whatever you wanted to do with the
> pre-closing file.
>
> ...
>
> P.S. There's a workaround for this in Windows, and I believe in Linux as
> well.

So, let's assume that you are running GnuCash on GNU/Linux.

Chances are that there'is a menu entry, or an icon on a toolbar somehere,
that you click on to invoke GnuCash.

You should be able to edit the menu entry,'s or the icon's "command"
string so that what you actually invoke is

/path/to/gnucash --nofile

That will invoke GnuCash without any Book/Ledger open, but you will
have the four most recentl entries in GnuCash's File menu, so you can
choose to open whichever one of the four you want to, rather than
having to hard-code any particular file at every startup time, or, as Stan
mentions, get the last one you worked on by default.

There's probably something similar in windows-land.

HTH
Kevin

PS

I have spared you the "you can always edit/play with/ the XML in
the GnuCash file, in order to start a new tax year in the same
filename" approach, but I've added it into a few threads over the
years so, if you feel like making a backup and having a go, you
should be able to find all you need in the archives.
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Re: Save button never seems to activate anymore

[G R Hewitt]

Oop's, sorry all :)

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 11:27, Geert Janssens 
wrote:

> Forwarding to list so others following the thread can keep up...
>
> Regards,
>
> Geert
>
> --  Doorgestuurd bericht  --
>
> Onderwerp: Re: [GNC] Save button never seems to activate anymore
> Datum: dinsdag 11 april 2023, 12:13:59 CEST
> Van: G R Hewitt 
> Aan: Geert Janssens 
>
> Thanks Geert,
> You could be right, I 'Saved As' before trying something out and it went
> pear-shaped
> so reloaded my 'Saved As'.
> On checking just now I can see that the default 'Save As' is 'xml', which I
> didn't notice;
> which also means I have been using xml, when all the time I though it was
> sqlite - which explains a few things.
>
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 11:00, Geert Janssens 
> wrote:
>
> > That sounds as if you changed the file format from xml to sqlite.
> >
> > Normally, the save button is only active for data files in xml format and
> > should not be active for data files in sqlite format.
> >
> > The way to change between formats is by using the File->Save As... menu
> > item.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geert
> >
> > Op dinsdag 11 april 2023 11:34:53 CEST schreef G R Hewitt:
> >
> > > Greetings all,
> >
> > > MacPro 2010, High Sierra Gnucash 5.0
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I have noted that the 'Save' button never seems to come on anymore.
> >
> > > Recently, after doing a few things to the accounts, it showed active
> and
> >
> > > I'd click it, when the little watch appeared and then the 'Save' button
> >
> > > would be
> >
> > > deactivated, until I made some other change, when it would reactivate.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > This is no longer happening, and I have tried changing things and
> > entering
> >
> > > new things
> >
> > > and the like, but still there is no change in its deactivated status.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > When I close and re-open, all the changes made are there, so there's no
> >
> > > real problem about it, other than I found it reassuring to manually
> save.
> >
> > >
> >
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[GNC] Locking the side bar items

[G R Hewitt]

Greetings all,

I was just wondering if there was anyway to prevent (lock) opened tabs from
being closed.
I have all the things I use - P, BS etc., on the right, and just can't
seem
to break the habit of clicking 'Close' to close the program, which closes
the open tab instead.

If not, could this be added as a feature at some point?

Thanks in advance
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[GNC] Fwd: Re: Save button never seems to activate anymore

[Geert Janssens]

Forwarding to list so others following the thread can keep up...

Regards,

Geert

--  Doorgestuurd bericht  --

Onderwerp: Re: [GNC] Save button never seems to activate anymore
Datum: dinsdag 11 april 2023, 12:13:59 CEST
Van: G R Hewitt 
Aan: Geert Janssens 

Thanks Geert,
You could be right, I 'Saved As' before trying something out and it went
pear-shaped
so reloaded my 'Saved As'.
On checking just now I can see that the default 'Save As' is 'xml', which I
didn't notice;
which also means I have been using xml, when all the time I though it was
sqlite - which explains a few things.

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 11:00, Geert Janssens 
wrote:

> That sounds as if you changed the file format from xml to sqlite.
>
> Normally, the save button is only active for data files in xml format and
> should not be active for data files in sqlite format.
>
> The way to change between formats is by using the File->Save As... menu
> item.
>
> Regards,
>
> Geert
>
> Op dinsdag 11 april 2023 11:34:53 CEST schreef G R Hewitt:
>
> > Greetings all,
>
> > MacPro 2010, High Sierra Gnucash 5.0
>
> >
>
> > I have noted that the 'Save' button never seems to come on anymore.
>
> > Recently, after doing a few things to the accounts, it showed active and
>
> > I'd click it, when the little watch appeared and then the 'Save' button
>
> > would be
>
> > deactivated, until I made some other change, when it would reactivate.
>
> >
>
> > This is no longer happening, and I have tried changing things and
> entering
>
> > new things
>
> > and the like, but still there is no change in its deactivated status.
>
> >
>
> > When I close and re-open, all the changes made are there, so there's no
>
> > real problem about it, other than I found it reassuring to manually save.
>
> >
>
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Re: [GNC] Save button never seems to activate anymore

[Geert Janssens]

That sounds as if you changed the file format from xml to sqlite.

Normally, the save button is only active for data files in xml format and 
should not be active 
for data files in sqlite format.

The way to change between formats is by using the File->Save As... menu item.

Regards,

Geert

Op dinsdag 11 april 2023 11:34:53 CEST schreef G R Hewitt:
> Greetings all,
> MacPro 2010, High Sierra Gnucash 5.0
> 
> I have noted that the 'Save' button never seems to come on anymore.
> Recently, after doing a few things to the accounts, it showed active and
> I'd click it, when the little watch appeared and then the 'Save' button
> would be
> deactivated, until I made some other change, when it would reactivate.
> 
> This is no longer happening, and I have tried changing things and entering
> new things
> and the like, but still there is no change in its deactivated status.
> 
> When I close and re-open, all the changes made are there, so there's no
> real problem about it, other than I found it reassuring to manually save.
> 
> Any idea's on this? Thanks in advance.
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[GNC] Save button never seems to activate anymore

[G R Hewitt]

Greetings all,
MacPro 2010, High Sierra Gnucash 5.0

I have noted that the 'Save' button never seems to come on anymore.
Recently, after doing a few things to the accounts, it showed active and
I'd click it, when the little watch appeared and then the 'Save' button
would be
deactivated, until I made some other change, when it would reactivate.

This is no longer happening, and I have tried changing things and entering
new things
and the like, but still there is no change in its deactivated status.

When I close and re-open, all the changes made are there, so there's no
real problem about it, other than I found it reassuring to manually save.

Any idea's on this? Thanks in advance.
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[GNC] Save button never seems to activate anymore

[G R Hewitt]

Greetings all,
MacPro 2010, High Sierra Gnucash 5.0

I have noted that the 'Save' button never seems to come on anymore.
Recently, after doing a few things to the accounts, it showed active and
I'd click it, when the little watch appeared and then the 'Save' button
would be
deactivated, until I made some other change, when it would reactivate.

This is no longer happening, and I have tried changing things and entering
new things
and the like, but still there is no change in its deactivated status.

When I close and re-open, all the changes made are there, so there's no
real problem about it, other than I found it reassuring to manually save.

Any idea's on this? Thanks in advance.
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