Re: [GNC] Hidden Accounts

[David T. via gnucash-user]

That's the behavior since 2006. I never paid attention to the dialog, which is 
incorrect. To hide the account in the transfer drop down, you do have to set it 
as a Placeholder as well. There's a bug about this that has a long discussion 
about it. I can't find it right now. 

⁣David T. ​

On Apr 15, 2023, 3:29 AM, at 3:29 AM, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>when you edit an account and select hidden the pop up tip/dialogue says
>"This account (and any sub-accounts) will be hidden in the account tree
>and will not appear in the popup account list in the register." (see
>photo), but they do appear in the register when selecting an account in
>the transfer column of the register.  Am I wrong in thinking this
>should not be happening?  The only way I can have them not show up is
>to make it a placeholder account.  If these should not be showing up, I
>will file a bug report.
>
>PS I tried to snip this, but the dialog/tip would disappear so I had to
>take a picture with my phone.
>
>
>Thank You,
>
>Gyle McCollam
>
>Gyle McCollam
>
>gmccol...@live.com   email
>
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Hidden Accounts

[David Carlson]

I recall reading about that here a few months ago,  so there may already be
a bug report  or it may even be corrected in release 5.0.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 7:28 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> when you edit an account and select hidden the pop up tip/dialogue says
> "This account (and any sub-accounts) will be hidden in the account tree and
> will not appear in the popup account list in the register." (see photo),
> but they do appear in the register when selecting an account in the
> transfer column of the register.  Am I wrong in thinking this should not be
> happening?  The only way I can have them not show up is to make it a
> placeholder account.  If these should not be showing up, I will file a bug
> report.
>
> PS I tried to snip this, but the dialog/tip would disappear so I had to
> take a picture with my phone.
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccol...@live.com   email
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Re: [GNC] Command line quotes still not fixed

[David G. Pickett via gnucash-user]

Stopped working again just that quick:

flatpak run --command=gnucash-cli org.gnucash.GnuCash --quotes get -- 
/home/dgp/GnuCash/ubuntu-DGPickett.gnucashF: X11 socket /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 does 
not exist in filesystem, trying to use abstract socket instead.
** (process:164114): WARNING **: 00:01:07.654: Failed to connect to bus: Could 
not connect: Connection refused* 00:01:07 ERROR  
[cleanup_and_exit_with_failure()] File is locked, won't open.
Is there some new lock besides the .LCK file ?

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Schuck 
To: David G. Pickett ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Cc: rlo...@gmail.com ; geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be 
; m.muruganan...@hotmail.com 
; hell...@gmail.com 
Sent: Tue, Apr 11, 2023 10:21 pm
Subject: Re: [GNC] Command line quotes still not fixed

On 4/11/23 6:51 PM, David G. Pickett wrote:

> Maybe patch the code to load a junk string in there 
> "Enter_your_key_here" and suppress the warning?

I have been thinking about that. I haven't tested if bogus API keys are 
subject to the same limitations as the free keys, but I think it would 
lead to other issues when it works for some people earlier in the day, 
but after the 500 per day limit is reached then getting quotes or 
exchange rates fail. And that would be for other people, or those who it 
worked for earlier in the day.

On top of that, we humans can be quite lazy. If someone notices their 
AlphaVantage stock quotes or exchange rates work, they may not bother 
with getting their own real free API key.

Still, setting the dummy key if none is supplied may make it into F::Q 
v1.55 (may be pushed to CPAN next month).

- Bruce S.
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Re: [GNC] Truncated popup menus on Gnucash 5.0 for Mac

[prl]

Hi, Adrian.

Yes, I had the window display issues in later 4.x GnuCash. They seem to 
be gone now in 5.0. This is a new issue for me introduced in 5.0 for 
Intel Mac on Ventura 13.1.1.


Regards,
Peter

On 15/4/2023 00:42, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Sorry, no. I'm still on Monterey though.

One of the late 4.x versions had some window display issues on MacOS, 
but not with menus as far as I recall.


Regards,
Adrien

On 4/14/23 1:25 AM, prl wrote:
Popup menus in various places in GnuCash for Intel Mac 5.0 seem to be 
truncated. I've attached screenshot snippets for the action popup on 
entries in the Scheduled Transactions>Since Last Run popup panel, and 
the right-button popup on transactions in the register. I've also 
seen the same problem in the right-button popup on the register tabs 
for switching registers, but a screenshot of that would contain 
account numbers, so I haven't attached a screenshot.


Is anyone else seeing anything like this?

I didn't have this in GnuCash 4.x.

Regards,
Peter

GnuCash: Version: 5.0 Build ID: 5.0+(2023-03-25)
MacbookPro Intel Ventura 13.3.1


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Re: [GNC] Truncated popup menus on Gnucash 5.0 for Mac

[prl]

Hi, John. Thanks for the bug report link. I've left a comment there.

Regards,
Peter

On 15/4/2023 09:52, jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us wrote:

There's now a bug report https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798858.



On Apr 14, 2023, at 10:59 AM, John Ralls  wrote:

I've seen this problem too on Intel/Monterey and not on M1/Ventura.

Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] Configurable Year Start Day/Month

[flywire]

Vincent, you seem confident. I posted an example. Can you demonstrate
changing say Start of This Year to 1 July in V5?

Code at
https://github.com/flywire/gnucash/blob/Fiscal-year/libgnucash/app-utils/date-utilities.scm#L557-L569
works in V4 (check cur-year/cal-year). See comments at
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2021-September/045956.html

Regards

https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-April/106464.html
wrote:

> As for the changes in version 5.0, they don't really impact the ability to
> create custom reports... Bottom line version 5.0 is actually easier to work
> with for creating options.
>
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-April/106463.html
>  wrote:
>
>> A new section is needed to address moving the option lists into C++ lists.
>> It seems those options, say start/end-of-year, could be overwritten in
>> scheme so they are customised before being used in reports, restoring
>> previous functionality.
>>
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Re: [GNC] Truncated popup menus on Gnucash 5.0 for Mac

[jralls]

There's now a bug report https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798858.


> On Apr 14, 2023, at 10:59 AM, John Ralls  
> wrote:
> 
> I've seen this problem too on Intel/Monterey and not on M1/Ventura.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2023, at 7:42 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, no. I'm still on Monterey though.
>> 
>> One of the late 4.x versions had some window display issues on MacOS, but 
>> not with menus as far as I recall.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>> On 4/14/23 1:25 AM, prl wrote:
>>> Popup menus in various places in GnuCash for Intel Mac 5.0 seem to be 
>>> truncated. I've attached screenshot snippets for the action popup on 
>>> entries in the Scheduled Transactions>Since Last Run popup panel, and the 
>>> right-button popup on transactions in the register. I've also seen the same 
>>> problem in the right-button popup on the register tabs for switching 
>>> registers, but a screenshot of that would contain account numbers, so I 
>>> haven't attached a screenshot.
>>> Is anyone else seeing anything like this?
>>> I didn't have this in GnuCash 4.x.
>>> Regards,
>>> Peter
>>> GnuCash: Version: 5.0 Build ID: 5.0+(2023-03-25)
>>> MacbookPro Intel Ventura 13.3.1
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Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items

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On 2023-04-14 12:00 PM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:


Message: 3
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 09:48:31 -0500
From: Adrien Monteleone 
To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

On 4/13/23 1:00 PM, NoobAlice wrote:

make close-program button
bigger to cover up clickable close-tab space - THE INVISIBLE CLOSE
BUTTON IS STILL CLICKABLE, though this hacky stuff makes the clickable
space smaller... */


There is no "close-program" 'button' save what is on the window title
bar and that is only addressable by the OS itself - not GnuCash or CSS.

What are you referring to?

Regards,
Adrien



I am referring to the menu items close program File > Quit Ctrl+Q and 
close tab File > Close Ctrl+W.  Sorry, they're not actually buttons, but 
it is still a problematically-clickable area.


Attached are two screenshots showing:
Close-fix1.png - the empty space on the toolbar with the Close button gone
Close-fix2.png - the very big Quit line on the file menu with most of 
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Re: [GNC] Deleting an account

[Gyle McCollam]

Michael,
Thank you, I forgot about hiding accounts.  I'm aware there will be a capital 
gain, but since it is personal finance, it is not taxable, just as the 
depreciation was not deductible.  I just like to write off assets that go down 
in value over time.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Michael or Penny Novack 
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 6:31 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Deleting an account

On 4/14/2023 4:51 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> I have a fixed asset account for an automobile with subaccounts for the 
> purchase cost and depreciation.  I am selling this car and purchasing a new 
> car. How do I delete the old car from my COA without messing up the 
> financials as there have been debits and credits to the 2 subaccounts.  The 
> parent account at this point has a zero balance as the vehicle is fully 
> depreciated.
>
You don't delete it (it would indeed mess up all those transactions)

It's no longer needed, balance is zero, just HIDE it. Do note that if
you dispose of this fully depreciated asset for a gain, you will have a
capital gain to record that transaction << but that wouldn't involve
this account >>


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Deleting an account

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 4/14/2023 4:51 PM, Gyle McCollam wrote:

I have a fixed asset account for an automobile with subaccounts for the 
purchase cost and depreciation.  I am selling this car and purchasing a new 
car. How do I delete the old car from my COA without messing up the financials 
as there have been debits and credits to the 2 subaccounts.  The parent account 
at this point has a zero balance as the vehicle is fully depreciated.


You don't delete it (it would indeed mess up all those transactions)

It's no longer needed, balance is zero, just HIDE it. Do note that if 
you dispose of this fully depreciated asset for a gain, you will have a 
capital gain to record that transaction << but that wouldn't involve 
this account >>



Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items

[David H]

Adrien,

I believe the OP was referring to the CLOSE toolbar button to the right of
the SAVE toolbar button.

Cheers David H.


On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 at 00:49, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> On 4/13/23 1:00 PM, NoobAlice wrote:
> > make close-program button
> > bigger to cover up clickable close-tab space - THE INVISIBLE CLOSE
> > BUTTON IS STILL CLICKABLE, though this hacky stuff makes the clickable
> > space smaller... */
>
> There is no "close-program" 'button' save what is on the window title
> bar and that is only addressable by the OS itself - not GnuCash or CSS.
>
> What are you referring to?
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
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[GNC] Deleting an account

[Gyle McCollam]

I have a fixed asset account for an automobile with subaccounts for the 
purchase cost and depreciation.  I am selling this car and purchasing a new 
car. How do I delete the old car from my COA without messing up the financials 
as there have been debits and credits to the 2 subaccounts.  The parent account 
at this point has a zero balance as the vehicle is fully depreciated.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email
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Re: [GNC] Truncated popup menus on Gnucash 5.0 for Mac

[John Ralls]

I've seen this problem too on Intel/Monterey and not on M1/Ventura.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Apr 14, 2023, at 7:42 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, no. I'm still on Monterey though.
> 
> One of the late 4.x versions had some window display issues on MacOS, but not 
> with menus as far as I recall.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 4/14/23 1:25 AM, prl wrote:
>> Popup menus in various places in GnuCash for Intel Mac 5.0 seem to be 
>> truncated. I've attached screenshot snippets for the action popup on entries 
>> in the Scheduled Transactions>Since Last Run popup panel, and the 
>> right-button popup on transactions in the register. I've also seen the same 
>> problem in the right-button popup on the register tabs for switching 
>> registers, but a screenshot of that would contain account numbers, so I 
>> haven't attached a screenshot.
>> Is anyone else seeing anything like this?
>> I didn't have this in GnuCash 4.x.
>> Regards,
>> Peter
>> GnuCash: Version: 5.0 Build ID: 5.0+(2023-03-25)
>> MacbookPro Intel Ventura 13.3.1
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Re: [GNC] gnucash 4.8 does not save settings

[Geert Janssens]

Before you go the flatpak route though, it may be worth figuring out why your 
settings are 
not saved. Are there any messages in your trace file ?

A known issue with saving settings is when you have applications installed in 
/usr/local. Or 
more specifically if there are schema files in 
/usr/local/share/glib-2.0/schemas/. In that case 
gnucash fails to find its own schema files in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/. 
This issue was 
fixed for gnucash 4.13.

Regards,

Geert



Op vrijdag 14 april 2023 15:51:08 CEST schreef Papa Oz:
> Hello, Carsten, and thanks for the reply.
> 
> Please forgive the anti-spam thing.  I had put @gnucash.org in my address
> book and I assumed all list-oriented traffic would come through their
> server.  Now that I see how it works I will probably have to change my
> registration to a different address that lacks the filtering.  Meanwhile
> you are "allowed".
> 
> All the files are within my home directory tree and I checked the
> permissions already.  There are some symlinks involved.  They work with 3.8
> but I suppose something might have changed in 4.8 such that they are a
> problem.
> 
> I did notice that the developers have gone the flatpak route.  I am not fond
> of flatpaks, which is why I mentioned deb in my post.  I suspect the
> sandbox aspect of flatpaks will give me some trouble sharing files between
> two systems.  But I guess I will have to add gnucash to my very small
> collection of flatpaks and figure out how to work out the sharing.
> 
> Thank you for your recommendation of 4.13.  I will give it a try.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Carsten Htter 
> Sent: Apr 14, 2023 7:17 AM
> To: Papa Oz , 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] gnucash 4.8 does not save settings
> 
> Hi Papa Oz!
> 
> First of all: I'd recommend updating to a more current version both of
> GnuCash (latest 4.x is 4.14 from 2023-03-25) and Finance::Quote (latest is
> 1.54 from 2022-12-26). GnuCash 5.0 still has some issues.
> 
> The developers decided to publish the stable GnuCash Linux versions as
> flatpak, not as deb packages. So in order to get the cutting edge version
> without building from source code, you have to install flatpak. I'm on
> Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, only limited experience with other Linux flavors
> (switched from OpenSUSE sometime in the last century or millennium), but
> the following instructions should work more or less: $ sudo apt install
> flatpakThe latest GnuCash 4.x flatpak on code.gnucash.org is 4.13 from
> 2023-03-18, can be downloaded here:
> https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/maint/gnucash-maint-C4.13-164-g207b
> 105b9c-D4.13-7-g96300db7.flatpakrefCan be installed with: $ cd
> ~/Downloads/GnuCash/  # Change to location of your flatpak file $ flatpak
> install gnucash-maint-C4.13-164-g207b105b9c-D4.13-7-g96300db7.flatpakref  #
> sudo not neededAnd started with: $ flatpak run org.gnucash.GnucashThere you
> go. Each flatpak package includes it's own current Finance::Quote.
> 
> To get the gnucash starter icon in your environment, you may need to install
> the Linux mint 21 cinnamon flatplak plugin: $ sudo apt install
> flatpak-plugin-cinnamonOn my system there are two flatpak GnuCash versions
> installed, which reside peacefully next door to each other: $ flatpak list
> --app
> Name Application ID Version 
>  Zweig Ursprung
>Installation GnuCash  org.gnucash.GnuCash   
> 4.13-164-g207b105b9c+ maint-C4.13-164-g207b105b9c-D4.13-7-g96300db7
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Re: [GNC] gnucash 4.8 does not save settings

[Geert Janssens]

Hi Papa OZ,

I'd like to respond to the "developers have gone the gnucash route" remark.

That suggests the developers prefer the use of flatpaks over distro packages. 
As one of these 
developers (though less active these days) and the initiator of the flatpak for 
gnucash effort, 
I like to state that would be misleading.

Personally I don't have a preference per se. There are plenty of arguments for 
or against 
either approach and I think it's up to each individual user to make a choice 
based on what 
they consider most important.

The choice to introduce flatpaks comes from a very practical standpoint.

The situation is that the gnucash packages found in distributions have never 
been created 
by gnucash developers themselves. This has always been done by distro 
packagers. Due to 
the policies that each distribution has wrt updating packages, we are in a 
situation that 
distro packages often lag behind on gnucash releases. The lag ranges from a few 
weeks 
(good!) to a couple of years.

We can't and won't create up to date packages for all possible distros out 
there (in various 
formats like deb, rpm, arch-flavoured,...).

However we can provide a single up-to-date flatpak as an alternative that works 
on all 
distributions. So that's what we have done.

Users that have reasons to stick with their distro but want to have a newer 
gnucash than 
their distro ships by default now have an alternative that's likely easier to 
use than building 
from source.

But to each their own. If you prefer to stick with your distro package, by all 
means enjoy that 
version!


Should you choose to go with flatpak, I should address your question about 
sharing files.

Your data file is not stored in the sandbox. It will be somewhere in your home 
directory. So 
you should be able to share that without issues as you did before.

If you also shared config files or saved reports, they do indeed move to a 
different location. 
But that location is also accessible from outside the sandbox, so I expect you 
can share those 
as well, though maybe not via ordinary softlinks. The location of these 
configuration files 
however is controlled by two environment variables GNC_DATA_HOME and 
GNC_CONFIG_HOME. If you point these to a location outside of the typical 
in-sandbox 
locations, I expect you can share them as you like.

Hope that helps,

Geert

Op vrijdag 14 april 2023 15:51:08 CEST schreef Papa Oz:
> Hello, Carsten, and thanks for the reply.
> 
> Please forgive the anti-spam thing.  I had put @gnucash.org in my address
> book and I assumed all list-oriented traffic would come through their
> server.  Now that I see how it works I will probably have to change my
> registration to a different address that lacks the filtering.  Meanwhile
> you are "allowed".
> 
> All the files are within my home directory tree and I checked the
> permissions already.  There are some symlinks involved.  They work with 3.8
> but I suppose something might have changed in 4.8 such that they are a
> problem.
> 
> I did notice that the developers have gone the flatpak route.  I am not fond
> of flatpaks, which is why I mentioned deb in my post.  I suspect the
> sandbox aspect of flatpaks will give me some trouble sharing files between
> two systems.  But I guess I will have to add gnucash to my very small
> collection of flatpaks and figure out how to work out the sharing.
> 
> Thank you for your recommendation of 4.13.  I will give it a try.
> 
> -Original Message-
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Re: [GNC] Locking the side bar items

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 4/13/23 1:00 PM, NoobAlice wrote:
make close-program button 
bigger to cover up clickable close-tab space - THE INVISIBLE CLOSE 
BUTTON IS STILL CLICKABLE, though this hacky stuff makes the clickable 
space smaller... */


There is no "close-program" 'button' save what is on the window title 
bar and that is only addressable by the OS itself - not GnuCash or CSS.


What are you referring to?

Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] Truncated popup menus on Gnucash 5.0 for Mac

[Adrien Monteleone]

Sorry, no. I'm still on Monterey though.

One of the late 4.x versions had some window display issues on MacOS, 
but not with menus as far as I recall.


Regards,
Adrien

On 4/14/23 1:25 AM, prl wrote:
Popup menus in various places in GnuCash for Intel Mac 5.0 seem to be 
truncated. I've attached screenshot snippets for the action popup on 
entries in the Scheduled Transactions>Since Last Run popup panel, and 
the right-button popup on transactions in the register. I've also seen 
the same problem in the right-button popup on the register tabs for 
switching registers, but a screenshot of that would contain account 
numbers, so I haven't attached a screenshot.


Is anyone else seeing anything like this?

I didn't have this in GnuCash 4.x.

Regards,
Peter

GnuCash: Version: 5.0 Build ID: 5.0+(2023-03-25)
MacbookPro Intel Ventura 13.3.1


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Re: [GNC] gnucash 4.8 does not save settings

[Papa Oz]

Hello, Carsten, and thanks for the reply.  

Please forgive the anti-spam thing.  I had put @gnucash.org in my address book 
and I assumed all list-oriented traffic would come through their server.  Now 
that I see how it works I will probably have to change my registration to a 
different address that lacks the filtering.  Meanwhile you are "allowed". 

All the files are within my home directory tree and I checked the permissions 
already.  There are some symlinks involved.  They work with 3.8 but I suppose 
something might have changed in 4.8 such that they are a problem. 

I did notice that the developers have gone the flatpak route.  I am not fond of 
flatpaks, which is why I mentioned deb in my post.  I suspect the sandbox 
aspect of flatpaks will give me some trouble sharing files between two systems. 
 But I guess I will have to add gnucash to my very small collection of flatpaks 
and figure out how to work out the sharing. 

Thank you for your recommendation of 4.13.  I will give it a try. 

-Original Message-
From: Carsten Htter 
Sent: Apr 14, 2023 7:17 AM
To: Papa Oz , 
Subject: Re: [GNC] gnucash 4.8 does not save settings

Hi Papa Oz!

First of all: I'd recommend updating to a more current version both of GnuCash 
(latest 4.x is 4.14 from 2023-03-25) and Finance::Quote (latest is 1.54 from 
2022-12-26). GnuCash 5.0 still has some issues.

The developers decided to publish the stable GnuCash Linux versions as flatpak, 
not as deb packages. So in order to get the cutting edge version without 
building from source code, you have to install flatpak. I'm on Ubuntu 22.04 
LTS, only limited experience with other Linux flavors (switched from OpenSUSE 
sometime in the last century or millennium), but the following instructions 
should work more or less:
$ sudo apt install flatpakThe latest GnuCash 4.x flatpak on code.gnucash.org is 
4.13 from 2023-03-18, can be downloaded here:
https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/maint/gnucash-maint-C4.13-164-g207b105b9c-D4.13-7-g96300db7.flatpakrefCan
 be installed with:
$ cd ~/Downloads/GnuCash/  # Change to location of your flatpak file
$ flatpak install 
gnucash-maint-C4.13-164-g207b105b9c-D4.13-7-g96300db7.flatpakref  # sudo not 
neededAnd started with:
$ flatpak run org.gnucash.GnucashThere you go. Each flatpak package includes 
it's own current Finance::Quote.

To get the gnucash starter icon in your environment, you may need to install 
the Linux mint 21 cinnamon flatplak plugin:
$ sudo apt install flatpak-plugin-cinnamonOn my system there are two flatpak 
GnuCash versions installed, which reside peacefully next door to each other:
$ flatpak list --app
Name Application ID Version 
  Zweig Ursprung
Installation
GnuCash  org.gnucash.GnuCash4.13-164-g207b105b9c+   
  maint-C4.13-164-g207b105b9c-D4.13-7-g96300db7 gnucash1-origin 
system
GnuCash  org.gnucash.GnuCash5.0-65-ge87865209e+ 
  stable-C5.0-65-ge87865209e-D5.0   gnucash3-origin 
systemTo start a specific version, you need to add the --branch option, e. g.:
$ flatpak run --branch=maint-C4.13-164-g207b105b9c-D4.13-7-g96300db7 
org.gnucash.GnuCash
I hope this helps for now.

I also did the whole building process from source code, which is a lot more 
complicated and time consuming. But this also can be done as an experienced 
Linux user.

Cheers,

Carsten


Am 14.04.23 um 03:26 schrieb Papa Oz:
I am trying to run gnucash 4.8 under Mint 21 xfce. 
The help menu item gives the following: 
Version: 4.8 
Build ID: 4.8a+(2021-09-28) 
Finance::Quote: 1.51 

gnucash does not save preferences. 

I run it from the terminal so I can see any messages. 

Upon starting I see: 
Found Finance::Quote version 1.51. 

I can enter transactions.  They are updated in the data file. 

When I try to update the preferences, immediately upon clicking "preferences" 
(after "edit") I receive this message: 

"sys:1: Warning: g_hash_table_foreach: assertion 'hash_table != NULL' failed" 

I have conducted the following test. 
Before running gnucash I run cd;ls -lR >file1 
After  exiting gnucash I run cd;ls -lR >file2 

Then I run meld ~/file1 ~/file2 

It shows a couple of added logs and a backup, and the data file has been 
updated.  There are no other changes anywhere in my home subtree except the 
file*.  Specifically not in .config/gnucash nor .local/share/gnucash. 

Can anyone tell me how to fix this or point me to a more modern gnucash .deb 
file that will install and run properly on Mint 21? 
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Re: [GNC] Truncated popup menus on Gnucash 5.0 for Mac

[Flyeta via gnucash-user]

No; I see full contextual pop-up menus. Using M1 iMac, Mac OS 13.3.1 Ventura, 
GnuCash Build ID: 5.0+(2023-03-25).

Andrew


> On Apr 14, 2023, at 2:25 AM, prl  wrote:
> 
> Popup menus in various places in GnuCash for Intel Mac 5.0 seem to be 
> truncated. I've attached screenshot snippets for the action popup on entries 
> in the Scheduled Transactions>Since Last Run popup panel, and the 
> right-button popup on transactions in the register. I've also seen the same 
> problem in the right-button popup on the register tabs for switching 
> registers, but a screenshot of that would contain account numbers, so I 
> haven't attached a screenshot.
> 
> Is anyone else seeing anything like this?
> 
> I didn't have this in GnuCash 4.x.
> 
> Regards,
> Peter
> 
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> MacbookPro Intel Ventura 13.3.1
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Re: [GNC] gnucash 4.8 does not save settings

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 4/14/2023 7:17 AM, Carsten Hütter wrote:

Hi Papa Oz!

First of all: I'd recommend updating to a more current version both of
GnuCash (latest 4.x is 4.14 from 2023-03-25) and Finance::Quote (latest
is 1.54 from 2022-12-26). GnuCash 5.0 still has some issues.

The developers decided to publish the stable GnuCash Linux versions as
flatpak, not as deb packages. So in order to get the cutting edge
version without building from source code, you have to install flatpak.
I'm on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, only limited experience with other Linux
flavors (switched from OpenSUSE sometime in the last century or
millennium), but the following instructions should work more or less: 


..

BUT  while you might as well start out with an up to date version, 
having an older version is not likely the problem.


The FIRST thing to check whenever an application fails to save 
"preferences", etc. is to find out where these are saved and that you 
have write permission for that file. I wrote "application" rather than 
"gnucash" because it is a common problem with any new application you 
begin using. Understand? The application can work OK just being able to 
read that file getting the default values for those preferences, etc. 
but not allow you to save changes to them upon closing.


Even if the developer included an error message during closing, might 
have forgotten to include a "pause" << the close operation has to be 
allowed to complete, so without a pause the error message would flash by 
so fast as to have been invisible >> So we don;t normally get a 
meaningful error message explaining WHY changes not saved. That's why I 
say check/rule this out first.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] gnucash 4.8 does not save settings

[Carsten Hütter]

Hi Papa Oz!

First of all: I'd recommend updating to a more current version both of
GnuCash (latest 4.x is 4.14 from 2023-03-25) and Finance::Quote (latest
is 1.54 from 2022-12-26). GnuCash 5.0 still has some issues.

The developers decided to publish the stable GnuCash Linux versions as
flatpak, not as deb packages. So in order to get the cutting edge
version without building from source code, you have to install flatpak.
I'm on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, only limited experience with other Linux
flavors (switched from OpenSUSE sometime in the last century or
millennium), but the following instructions should work more or less:

   $ sudo apt install flatpak

The latest GnuCash 4.x flatpak on code.gnucash.org is 4.13 from
2023-03-18, can be downloaded here:

   
https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/maint/gnucash-maint-C4.13-164-g207b105b9c-D4.13-7-g96300db7.flatpakref

Can be installed with:

   $ cd ~/Downloads/GnuCash/  # Change to location of your flatpak file
   $ flatpak install
   gnucash-maint-C4.13-164-g207b105b9c-D4.13-7-g96300db7.flatpakref #
   sudo not needed

And started with:

   $ flatpak run org.gnucash.Gnucash

There you go. Each flatpak package includes it's own current Finance::Quote.

To get the gnucash starter icon in your environment, you may need to
install the Linux mint 21 cinnamon flatplak plugin:

   $ sudo apt install flatpak-plugin-cinnamon

On my system there are two flatpak GnuCash versions installed, which
reside peacefully next door to each other:

   $ flatpak list --app
   Name Application ID Version Zweig
   Ursprung    Installation
   GnuCash  org.gnucash.GnuCash 4.13-164-g207b105b9c+
   maint-C4.13-164-g207b105b9c-D4.13-7-g96300db7
   gnucash1-origin system
   GnuCash  org.gnucash.GnuCash 5.0-65-ge87865209e+
   stable-C5.0-65-ge87865209e-D5.0 gnucash3-origin system

To start a specific version, you need to add the --branch option, e. g.:

   $ flatpak run --branch=maint-C4.13-164-g207b105b9c-D4.13-7-g96300db7
   org.gnucash.GnuCash

I hope this helps for now.

I also did the whole building process from source code, which is a lot
more complicated and time consuming. But this also can be done as an
experienced Linux user.

Cheers,

Carsten


Am 14.04.23 um 03:26 schrieb Papa Oz:


I am trying to run gnucash 4.8 under Mint 21 xfce.
The help menu item gives the following:
Version: 4.8
Build ID: 4.8a+(2021-09-28)
Finance::Quote: 1.51

gnucash does not save preferences.

I run it from the terminal so I can see any messages.

Upon starting I see:
Found Finance::Quote version 1.51.

I can enter transactions.  They are updated in the data file.

When I try to update the preferences, immediately upon clicking
"preferences" (after "edit") I receive this message:

"sys:1: Warning: g_hash_table_foreach: assertion 'hash_table != NULL'
failed"

I have conducted the following test.
Before running gnucash I run cd;ls -lR >file1
After  exiting gnucash I run cd;ls -lR >file2

Then I run meld ~/file1 ~/file2

It shows a couple of added logs and a backup, and the data file has
been updated.  There are no other changes anywhere in my home subtree
except the file*.  Specifically not in .config/gnucash nor
.local/share/gnucash.

Can anyone tell me how to fix this or point me to a more modern
gnucash .deb file that will install and run properly on Mint 21?

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[GNC] Truncated popup menus on Gnucash 5.0 for Mac

[prl]

Popup menus in various places in GnuCash for Intel Mac 5.0 seem to be 
truncated. I've attached screenshot snippets for the action popup on 
entries in the Scheduled Transactions>Since Last Run popup panel, and 
the right-button popup on transactions in the register. I've also seen 
the same problem in the right-button popup on the register tabs for 
switching registers, but a screenshot of that would contain account 
numbers, so I haven't attached a screenshot.


Is anyone else seeing anything like this?

I didn't have this in GnuCash 4.x.

Regards,
Peter

GnuCash: Version: 5.0 Build ID: 5.0+(2023-03-25)
MacbookPro Intel Ventura 13.3.1
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