Re: [GNC] Cash in investment has a "price"?

[Ken Farley]

I see that my structure has been messed up, presumably because I tried 
to use different fonts or whatnot.


Here's what I was trying to show

Assets
  Investments
Brokerage Account
  = Cash Account =    <-- an account of type "Bank"
  Security Account A  <-- Stock or Mutual Fund
  Security Account B  <-- Stock or Mutual Fund
  ...
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Re: [GNC] DOS Payroll, Inventory, A/R, A/P, and G/L program

[David Cousens]

Thanks Bruce,

I feel the source code is likely to be of little direct value if projects to
develop a payroll and /or inventory system were to be started. A payroll system
would have to account for the current range of payroll practices across many
different jurisdictions with different industrial laws and would have to be
written in a language(s) compatible with the GnuCash code. GnuCash AFAIK does
not have a functional API in C or C++ code. Simailrly an inventory system has to
acomadate the cost management and the model for inventory handling (FIFO, LIFO 
I have not explored the Python interface enough to know if it would be
sufficient to implement the required interface functionality for payroll and
inventory.

Large parts of both of thesesystems are largely independent of the accounting
functionality. If this were to be attempted one approach would be standalone
modules which supply and or extract the necessary accounting information to
GnuCash without otherwise impacting GnuCash's operation and code. If the
necessary interfacing code does not exist it would have to be created in GnuCash
to make these projects viable.

David Cousens


On Mon, 2023-10-30 at 17:37 +, Bruce McCoy via gnucash-user wrote:
> David,
>   Here are the source code text files, *.EDT, for the program. They are
> in BKS.EDT.zip. These files are corrected. To make them easier to read, like
> TAXCODE.txt (q.v.), run them with TAS, which is in TAS.zip. 
> 
> BKS.EDT.zip, BKS.EDT.zip.txt,  TAS.zip  and TAS.zip.txt are in General at
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/d323887f48f9gote69ohm/h?rlkey=gudyrc3o8r8wf0icti0k705gn=0
> All we need to do that is find someone with DOS. I do not have a DOS machine
> any more. I'll ask my contacts to see whether they still have that capability.
>   
> You may find people who use DOS. If so, you will be able to make the source
> code files read like TAXCODE.txt yourself.
>  
> Best Regards.
> Bruce
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Re: [GNC] DOS Payroll, Inventory, A/R, A/P, and G/L program

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 10/30/2023 1:37 PM, Bruce McCoy via gnucash-user wrote:

David,
   Here are the source code text files, *.EDT, for the program. They are in 
BKS.EDT.zip. These files are corrected. To make them easier to read, like 
TAXCODE.txt (q.v.), run them with TAS, which is in TAS.zip.

BKS.EDT.zip, BKS.EDT.zip.txt,  TAS.zip  and TAS.zip.txt are in General at
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/d323887f48f9gote69ohm/h?rlkey=gudyrc3o8r8wf0icti0k705gn=0
All we need to do that is find someone with DOS. I do not have a DOS machine 
any more. I'll ask my contacts to see whether they still have that capability.
   
You may find people who use DOS. If so, you will be able to make the source code files read like TAXCODE.txt yourself.
  
Best Regards.

Bruce


Confusion? What would DOS (the operating system) have to do with SOURCE 
CODE files? It's the compiler's job and the link editor's job to turn 
that source code into an executable for running on some specific (these 
days generic) hardware under some specific operating system.


Thus if I had a program written in c that was once compiled and linked 
to run under DOS I would expect to be able to compile and link that 
program to run under the machine I now have (using the c compiler on my 
machine) and it should work just fine.


Michael D Novack

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Re: [GNC] Struggling with column width

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

On 2023-10-30 06:31, Donna F via gnucash-user wrote:
> Every time I read about a solution, I try it and it
> doesn't work. Like double-clicking on the Balance Header, which made
> the column smaller. Double-clicking again made it so small it
> disappeared. Dragging the column header from the right hand side made
> it smaller. In fact, anything I did made it smaller. Once I've got an
> unreadable ledger on my hands, I have to close it and then use an
> earlier version of the accounts in which the columns are readable,
> even though I have now read that it's not possible to make the
> Description column smaller no matter how wide it chooses to get. It's
> like it has a life of its own! The other solutions I've read about
> mean messing with the code, which I don't feel able to do at all! Yes,
> I know that open source means you mess with the code, but all I want
> to do is keep my freelance accounts. I love this program and nothing
> I've seen is as good as this. But I can't live in fear of losing
> columns I can't get back. Can anyone help?

Donna, I understand you're frustrated, but I think your frustration is
making this look like a big problem when it's really not.

The first thing is to set your mind at rest. There was no need to go
back to a previous version of the database: even if a column is not
visible, its contents are preserved.

The way it works in GnuCash is that you set the widths of the _other_
columns,(*) and then the Description/Memo column takes up the remaining
space. If you want to set the size of that column without changing any
others, then change the width of the entire GC window.

(*) Double-clicking a column head, such as Balance, doesn't make the
column smaller. Rather, it adjusts the column width to contain the
column contents, which might require making the column wider or
narrower, or leaving its width unchanged. The other columns (except
Description/Memo) work the same way. When you do your double-clicking,
be sure to do it on the text of the column head -- I suspect your second
double-click included an accidental mouse movement on the line that
divides columns.

"Open source" does _not_ necessarily mean messing with the code. I've
never done that and D.V. will never have to. I can assure you that you
don't need to "mess with the code" just to set column widths.

You may want to bookmark the FAQ list:


The specific FAQ about column widths is

That addresses how to recover a disappeared column, and the example
given is the balance column.

-- 
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com


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Re: [GNC] Struggling with column width

[David Carlson]

Donna,

You can adjust the register for each account separately.  Just use the
mouse to grab the right edge at the top of any column except the
Description column and move it as desired.  If the total width exceeds the
width of your window, a scrollbar will appear near the bottom of the
window.  Then you can grab the right edge of the description, drag it
leftward until the scrollbar disappears.  Double clicking any column header
wil auto-size it to fit whatever is in the column.  Then drag the right
header edge leftward as desired.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 3:17 PM Donna F via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I can see from all the information, posts and forums I've been reading
> that the problem of not being able to stop the Name/Description column
> from taking up half the space on the ledger has been going for 15
> years or more. Every time I read about a solution, I try it and it
> doesn't work. Like double-clicking on the Balance Header, which made
> the column smaller. Double-clicking again made it so small it
> disappeared. Dragging the column header from the right hand side made
> it smaller. In fact, anything I did made it smaller. Once I've got an
> unreadable ledger on my hands, I have to close it and then use an
> earlier version of the accounts in which the columns are readable,
> even though I have now read that it's not possible to make the
> Description column smaller no matter how wide it chooses to get. It's
> like it has a life of its own! The other solutions I've read about
> mean messing with the code, which I don't feel able to do at all! Yes,
> I know that open source means you mess with the code, but all I want
> to do is keep my freelance accounts. I love this program and nothing
> I've seen is as good as this. But I can't live in fear of losing
> columns I can't get back. Can anyone help?
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[GNC] Struggling with column width

[Donna F via gnucash-user]

I can see from all the information, posts and forums I've been reading
that the problem of not being able to stop the Name/Description column
from taking up half the space on the ledger has been going for 15
years or more. Every time I read about a solution, I try it and it
doesn't work. Like double-clicking on the Balance Header, which made
the column smaller. Double-clicking again made it so small it
disappeared. Dragging the column header from the right hand side made
it smaller. In fact, anything I did made it smaller. Once I've got an
unreadable ledger on my hands, I have to close it and then use an
earlier version of the accounts in which the columns are readable,
even though I have now read that it's not possible to make the
Description column smaller no matter how wide it chooses to get. It's
like it has a life of its own! The other solutions I've read about
mean messing with the code, which I don't feel able to do at all! Yes,
I know that open source means you mess with the code, but all I want
to do is keep my freelance accounts. I love this program and nothing
I've seen is as good as this. But I can't live in fear of losing
columns I can't get back. Can anyone help?
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Re: [GNC] DOS Payroll, Inventory, A/R, A/P, and G/L program

[Bruce McCoy via gnucash-user]

David,
  Here are the source code text files, *.EDT, for the program. They are in 
BKS.EDT.zip. These files are corrected. To make them easier to read, like 
TAXCODE.txt (q.v.), run them with TAS, which is in TAS.zip. 

BKS.EDT.zip, BKS.EDT.zip.txt,  TAS.zip  and TAS.zip.txt are in General at
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/d323887f48f9gote69ohm/h?rlkey=gudyrc3o8r8wf0icti0k705gn=0
All we need to do that is find someone with DOS. I do not have a DOS machine 
any more. I'll ask my contacts to see whether they still have that capability. 
  
You may find people who use DOS. If so, you will be able to make the source 
code files read like TAXCODE.txt yourself.
 
Best Regards.
Bruce












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Re: [GNC] New Balance entry

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 10/30/2023 6:45 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

Exactly my experience, and why I asked, despite previous experience.

I am now at the stage where my Gnucash file is y but my bank account 
is not


Further searching needed,

Barry 


BESIDES actual errors, a difference between what the bank says is in 
your account and what your books say is the account is normal UNLESS all 
transactions are instantaneous.


When I write a check, stick it in an envelope, and mail off that 
envelope THAT is the time when I have made "constructive payment" < its 
why postmarks have legal significance"> So that is the date of a 
reduction in the bank account in MY books. The check has to arrive, be 
deposited by the recipient, and return to my bank before it gets 
deducted in the bank's records of my account.


Even when I do an electronic transfer between my account at one bank and 
my account at another (transfer of funds) it is usually not instantaneous.


The point I am making is if during the time interval when I have any 
such event outstanding, what I have in my books and what the bank has 
will NOT agree. In the old pre computer "bank reconciliation" process 
accounting for everything "in transit" had to be done first before 
looking at differences as an error or errors.


Michael D Novack

PS1: Legally, you are not allowed to utilize "float" << write checks 
where there are not sufficient funds WHEN WRITTEN but expect the funds 
to be there before the checks arrive back at the bank.>>


PS2: If you are not entering in your books when written, waiting to 
download transactions from what the bank has you are never going to be 
able to spot one sort of bank error where a check is misread?misentered. 
Can also get into problems where a check takes a long time to get back 
so there could be insufficient funds in your account.


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Re: [GNC] New Balance entry

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Exactly my experience, and why I asked, despite previous experience.

I am now at the stage where my Gnucash file is y but my bank account is 
not


Further searching needed,

Barry

On 30/10/2023 11:24, Liz wrote:

On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 15:21:20 +0200
Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user  wrote:


Hi,

After my previous experiences on here, I am almost afraid to ask a
new question, but, here goes.

When Reconciling, what exactly is the effect of introducing a "new
balance entry" as is available as the first option on the bar.

There is nothing under the help that I could identify.

Thanks, Finbar

My simple take is a disaster.
The program inserts a transaction which "balances" the account.
I've made the error once and not done it again, as I had to undo it all
and then fix up the genuine errors in the reconciliation.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] New Balance entry

[Liz]

On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 15:21:20 +0200
Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> After my previous experiences on here, I am almost afraid to ask a
> new question, but, here goes.
> 
> When Reconciling, what exactly is the effect of introducing a "new 
> balance entry" as is available as the first option on the bar.
> 
> There is nothing under the help that I could identify.
> 
> Thanks, Finbar

My simple take is a disaster.
The program inserts a transaction which "balances" the account.
I've made the error once and not done it again, as I had to undo it all
and then fix up the genuine errors in the reconciliation.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] I need basic help

[Liz]

On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 05:58:30 +1000
David Cousens  wrote:

> While I agree with Liz's point with regard to different learning
> modalities, I still think it is a good practice to at least skim the
> available documentation and particularly read at least the Basics
> section of the Guide before diving in. 

If a person can read all those words and it does not help them
understand, they may understand with a different method.
There are some videos in English available. I can't tell whether they
are good or bad, does anyone have any favourites which would help
someone like Edwin?
I am imagining that a beginner video would talk through basic
concepts and then demonstrate how Gnucash handles those concepts. It
may follow through the Guide or Tutorial.
Suggestions welcome, then they could be linked from the wiki.

Liz
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