Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-16 Thread Adrien Monteleone

Chris,

It has been a few years since I played with it, but I helped set up WINE 
for someone precisely for an ancient Epson Scanner. (and that was with 
an old version of WINE which has come a long way recently)


You might be able to ditch that VM.

Regards,
Adrien

On 1/16/24 3:41 AM, Chris Green wrote:

In my case now the only remaining thing that runs on my XP virtual
machine is some Epson scanner software.


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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-16 Thread Adrien Monteleone
You can likely skip a few links in that chain with FreeDOS in a VM or 
another open version of it.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/16/24 10:07 AM, Fred Tydeman wrote:

This is the only way I know to still run 16-bit DOS programs
They will NOT run under recent Microsoft Windows (except maybe in DOS Box).

Quicken for DOS (Version 8.0, 1994)
  |
16-bit Microsoft DOS emulator (built into OS/2)
  |
32-bit OS/2 (IBM operating system; actually eComStation follow-on)
  |
32-bit Virtual Machine (Oracle VM VirtualBox)
  |
64-bit Linux (Fedora)
  |
64-bit x86 hardware (Intel Core i5 7th gen)
PS:  I do not see how to change the Subject line in gmail.
Should be:  Virtual Machine


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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-16 Thread Fred Tydeman
This is the only way I know to still run 16-bit DOS programs
They will NOT run under recent Microsoft Windows (except maybe in DOS Box).

Quicken for DOS (Version 8.0, 1994)
 |
16-bit Microsoft DOS emulator (built into OS/2)
 |
32-bit OS/2 (IBM operating system; actually eComStation follow-on)
 |
32-bit Virtual Machine (Oracle VM VirtualBox)
 |
64-bit Linux (Fedora)
 |
64-bit x86 hardware (Intel Core i5 7th gen)
PS:  I do not see how to change the Subject line in gmail.
Should be:  Virtual Machine
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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-16 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:27:24PM -0600, David Carlson wrote:
> I would recommend taking a few weeks learning how VM's work before doing it
> yourself,but for a person knowledgeable about VM's it would be
> straightforward if you can install or otherwise attach a physical drive to
> your computer then configure a VM to use it as it's primary drive.  I
> recommend having a knowledgeable friend do it.  I have been 'playing' with
> VM's for a couple of years now and I have been burned several times while
> learning how they work.  I still do not do anything serious solely in a VM.
> 
The only good reason I have found for using a VM is to allow me to run
old versions of Windows (XP in particular) in a relatively 'safe'
environment such that they won't get invaded/corrupted by intruders.

In my case now the only remaining thing that runs on my XP virtual
machine is some Epson scanner software.

Otherwise it's almost always easier to do things on a 'real' machine,
the virtual machine environment just introduces another layer of
possible issues.

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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-15 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I was referring to the process of turning a running Windows installation 
into a VM from within that running installation. I know VMWare has such 
a tool, and I think Virtualbox does as well. (other virtualization 
solutions might too, and still yet, there might be 3rd party tools to 
accomplish the job)


Otherwise, you could create a VM for each OS, but don't install an OS 
into it, then simply point the boot device to the desired physical drive 
and boot the VM. It *should* boot up the drive as if it were running 
bare metal as the main OS. (but within the VM of course)


If you can plug in more than one drive to the working machine at a time, 
I'd do so, and set the Ubuntu drive as the first and only boot device. 
Then see if from within Ubuntu, you can see and mount the other drives. 
You might have to get dirty with command line tools though as some of 
the GUI apps for this don't always play nice. From the command line, you 
can also possibly run SMART tests on the offending (or every) drive. 
(The drive has to support SMART, but most drives made in the last 25 
years do, though maybe not the full spec.) Look into smartmontools for 
more on this.


Another option is to get an external drive caddy as you may have a 
problem with one or more of your internal SATA ports. (could be a bad 
data cable, or power cable too - so many things to try...)


And don't toss or destroy those drives. You might still be able to save 
them yet.


Best of luck.

Regards,
Adrien

On 1/15/24 9:47 PM, Jeff wrote:
I do not fully understand yet what has happened.  My "NEW" old tower 
recognized all of my drives I pulled from the blown up computers, then 
poof, the new computer suddenly doesn't recognize them anymore (all of 
the ssd boot drives).  I got lucky tonight and found the drive for my 
Ubuntu server or I would not be responding.


If I cannot get the sata drive from my laptop back up and running then I 
am screwed for taxes (Stupid me I forgot to backup 2022). I can still do 
the book keeping from here if I can keep Ubuntu up and running (except 
that some of the financial institution ID an passwords that are on a 
windowze drive).  Much easier under__Ubuntu and a work station. 
Unfortunately for me, the tax software is on a windozs drive that I can 
no longer access.

_
_I have not tried using a VM, as this tower suddenly decided that 
several of my drives no longer exist.


How would I move it to a VM?



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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-15 Thread David Carlson
I would recommend taking a few weeks learning how VM's work before doing it
yourself,but for a person knowledgeable about VM's it would be
straightforward if you can install or otherwise attach a physical drive to
your computer then configure a VM to use it as it's primary drive.  I
recommend having a knowledgeable friend do it.  I have been 'playing' with
VM's for a couple of years now and I have been burned several times while
learning how they work.  I still do not do anything serious solely in a VM.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 9:48 PM Jeff  wrote:

> On 1/11/24 10:10 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > If their drives with OS installations are intact, perhaps converting
> > them to VM images might suffice for now.
> >
> > As for Windows software, have you given the latest Wine a spin with
> > it? It may not work 100% out of the box, but you might get close
> > enough with some fiddling.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > On 1/11/24 2:15 AM, Jeff wrote:
> >> I'm just trying to get back to gnc and unfortunately a windows
> >> program, H@r Block.  Without at least 2 computers this almost
> >> difficult task unless you have a way to run H@r Block windows version
> >> 2023 under ubuntu?
> >>
> >> And right now I have only one computer.  A surge supseror exploded
> >> and fried all of my computers.  I have a temporary replacement for
> >> the network server but not any workstations.
> >
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> Adrien:
>
> I do not fully understand yet what has happened.  My "NEW" old tower
> recognized all of my drives I pulled from the blown up computers, then
> poof, the new computer suddenly doesn't recognize them anymore (all of
> the ssd boot drives).  I got lucky tonight and found the drive for my
> Ubuntu server or I would not be responding.
>
> If I cannot get the sata drive from my laptop back up and running then I
> am screwed for taxes (Stupid me I forgot to backup 2022). I can still do
> the book keeping from here if I can keep Ubuntu up and running (except
> that some of the financial institution ID an passwords that are on a
> windowze drive).  Much easier under__Ubuntu and a work station.
> Unfortunately for me, the tax software is on a windozs drive that I can
> no longer access.
> _
> _I have not tried using a VM, as this tower suddenly decided that
> several of my drives no longer exist.
>
> How would I move it to a VM?
>
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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-15 Thread Jeff

On 1/11/24 10:10 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
If their drives with OS installations are intact, perhaps converting 
them to VM images might suffice for now.


As for Windows software, have you given the latest Wine a spin with 
it? It may not work 100% out of the box, but you might get close 
enough with some fiddling.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/11/24 2:15 AM, Jeff wrote:
I'm just trying to get back to gnc and unfortunately a windows 
program, H@r Block.  Without at least 2 computers this almost 
difficult task unless you have a way to run H@r Block windows version 
2023 under ubuntu?


And right now I have only one computer.  A surge supseror exploded 
and fried all of my computers.  I have a temporary replacement for 
the network server but not any workstations.


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Adrien:

I do not fully understand yet what has happened.  My "NEW" old tower 
recognized all of my drives I pulled from the blown up computers, then 
poof, the new computer suddenly doesn't recognize them anymore (all of 
the ssd boot drives).  I got lucky tonight and found the drive for my 
Ubuntu server or I would not be responding.


If I cannot get the sata drive from my laptop back up and running then I 
am screwed for taxes (Stupid me I forgot to backup 2022). I can still do 
the book keeping from here if I can keep Ubuntu up and running (except 
that some of the financial institution ID an passwords that are on a 
windowze drive).  Much easier under__Ubuntu and a work station.  
Unfortunately for me, the tax software is on a windozs drive that I can 
no longer access.

_
_I have not tried using a VM, as this tower suddenly decided that 
several of my drives no longer exist.


How would I move it to a VM?

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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-11 Thread Adrien Monteleone
If their drives with OS installations are intact, perhaps converting 
them to VM images might suffice for now.


As for Windows software, have you given the latest Wine a spin with it? 
It may not work 100% out of the box, but you might get close enough with 
some fiddling.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/11/24 2:15 AM, Jeff wrote:
I'm just trying to get back to gnc and unfortunately a windows program, 
H@r Block.  Without at least 2 computers this almost difficult task 
unless you have a way to run H@r Block windows version 2023 under ubuntu?


And right now I have only one computer.  A surge supseror exploded and 
fried all of my computers.  I have a temporary replacement for the 
network server but not any workstations.


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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-11 Thread Adrien Monteleone
That's a bummer. Now imagine you're dealing with Google and since you 
changed ISPs and your IP address is different, they don't think it is 
'you' any more, despite knowing relevant passwords and having 2FA set 
up! (and not having anyone to contact about it)


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/11/24 1:53 AM, Jeff wrote:
This f'ing 3 layer 
security is ridiculous and unnecessary. I keep getting locked out of one 
of my banks every time I to login. Changing passwords every time I log 
in is ridiculous. 


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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-11 Thread Jeff

On 1/10/24 1:48 AM, David Carlson wrote:
Oh, release 5.5 has a couple of bugs, the Windoze version especially.  
You may want to revert to release 5.4, but that has it's own issue, so 
check the history here and choose your poison.


On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 1:42 AM David Carlson 
 wrote:


Maybe we should take a lesson from you and put that surge
protected power strip next to our pc or entertainment center
inside a very sturdy box if it isn't already in it's own container.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 1:06 AM Jeff 
wrote:

After a surge protector blew up in my face and fried my server
and
workstations I am trying to catch up. I assume the update to
5.5 is
compatible on Ubuntu and Windoze?  It's tax time and I am down
to 0
workstations, from 4, until I can locate a station strictly
for taxes.

And yes, you will soil your pants no matter how many surge
protectors
you have explode in your face.  Thankfully this one was only a
15 amp
one and not the 10 KW inverter that exploded in my face at work.

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David:

I'm just trying to get back to gnc and unfortunately a windows program, 
H@r Block.  Without at least 2 computers this almost difficult task 
unless you have a way to run H@r Block windows version 2023 under ubuntu?


And right now I have only one computer.  A surge supseror exploded and 
fried all of my computers.  I have a temporary replacement for the 
network server but not any workstations.


--
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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-10 Thread Jeff

On 1/10/24 3:42 AM, Jeff wrote:

On 1/10/24 1:48 AM, David Carlson wrote:
Oh, release 5.5 has a couple of bugs, the Windoze version 
especially.  You may want to revert to release 5.4, but that has it's 
own issue, so check the history here and choose your poison.


On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 1:42 AM David Carlson 
 wrote:


    Maybe we should take a lesson from you and put that surge
    protected power strip next to our pc or entertainment center
    inside a very sturdy box if it isn't already in it's own container.

    On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 1:06 AM Jeff 
    wrote:

    After a surge protector blew up in my face and fried my server
    and
    workstations I am trying to catch up. I assume the update to
    5.5 is
    compatible on Ubuntu and Windoze?  It's tax time and I am down
    to 0
    workstations, from 4, until I can locate a station strictly
    for taxes.

    And yes, you will soil your pants no matter how many surge
    protectors
    you have explode in your face.  Thankfully this one was only a
    15 amp
    one and not the 10 KW inverter that exploded in my face at work.

    --     --JEffrey Black M.B.A.

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/I have to remember that. My eye brows are still growing back. Talk 
about a gremlin in the system, I just had one!!/


/


You still have eye browse?  Mine have not grown back.  Must because I am 
a lot older than you.  I will try to revert one version.  I'm still 1 
computer short of having my network back up.  This f'ing 3 layer 
security is ridiculous and unnecessary. I keep getting locked out of one 
of my banks every time I to login. Changing passwords every time I log 
in is ridiculous.


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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-10 Thread Jeff

On 1/10/24 1:48 AM, David Carlson wrote:
Oh, release 5.5 has a couple of bugs, the Windoze version especially.  
You may want to revert to release 5.4, but that has it's own issue, so 
check the history here and choose your poison.


On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 1:42 AM David Carlson 
 wrote:


Maybe we should take a lesson from you and put that surge
protected power strip next to our pc or entertainment center
inside a very sturdy box if it isn't already in it's own container.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 1:06 AM Jeff 
wrote:

After a surge protector blew up in my face and fried my server
and
workstations I am trying to catch up. I assume the update to
5.5 is
compatible on Ubuntu and Windoze?  It's tax time and I am down
to 0
workstations, from 4, until I can locate a station strictly
for taxes.

And yes, you will soil your pants no matter how many surge
protectors
you have explode in your face.  Thankfully this one was only a
15 amp
one and not the 10 KW inverter that exploded in my face at work.

-- 
--JEffrey Black M.B.A.


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/I have to remember that. My eye brows are still growing back. Talk 
about a gremlin in the system, I just had one!!/


/
/

/
/

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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-09 Thread David Carlson
Oh, release 5.5 has a couple of bugs, the Windoze version especially.  You
may want to revert to release 5.4, but that has it's own issue, so check
the history here and choose your poison.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 1:42 AM David Carlson 
wrote:

> Maybe we should take a lesson from you and put that surge protected power
> strip next to our pc or entertainment center inside a very sturdy box if it
> isn't already in it's own container.
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 1:06 AM Jeff  wrote:
>
>> After a surge protector blew up in my face and fried my server and
>> workstations I am trying to catch up. I assume the update to 5.5 is
>> compatible on Ubuntu and Windoze?  It's tax time and I am down to 0
>> workstations, from 4, until I can locate a station strictly for taxes.
>>
>> And yes, you will soil your pants no matter how many surge protectors
>> you have explode in your face.  Thankfully this one was only a 15 amp
>> one and not the 10 KW inverter that exploded in my face at work.
>>
>> --
>> --JEffrey Black M.B.A.
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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-09 Thread David Carlson
Maybe we should take a lesson from you and put that surge protected power
strip next to our pc or entertainment center inside a very sturdy box if it
isn't already in it's own container.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 1:06 AM Jeff  wrote:

> After a surge protector blew up in my face and fried my server and
> workstations I am trying to catch up. I assume the update to 5.5 is
> compatible on Ubuntu and Windoze?  It's tax time and I am down to 0
> workstations, from 4, until I can locate a station strictly for taxes.
>
> And yes, you will soil your pants no matter how many surge protectors
> you have explode in your face.  Thankfully this one was only a 15 amp
> one and not the 10 KW inverter that exploded in my face at work.
>
> --
> --JEffrey Black M.B.A.
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[GNC] Idiot 101 question

2024-01-09 Thread Jeff
After a surge protector blew up in my face and fried my server and 
workstations I am trying to catch up. I assume the update to 5.5 is 
compatible on Ubuntu and Windoze?  It's tax time and I am down to 0 
workstations, from 4, until I can locate a station strictly for taxes.


And yes, you will soil your pants no matter how many surge protectors 
you have explode in your face.  Thankfully this one was only a 15 amp 
one and not the 10 KW inverter that exploded in my face at work.


--
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