Re: GPG on Android

2018-11-03 Thread Yagthara Aghhay-Boor
Hello All!

Thank you very much for your answers. I'll try to sort things out and test
the suggested android apps.
If there are any questions left, I'll come back to you guys.

best
Masha
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Re: GPG on Android

2018-11-03 Thread Juergen BRUCKNER
Hello Masha,

as you are new to this whole topic, I guess the easiest way to use
encrypted mail (either GPG and/or S/MIME) on a Android device would be
the app "MailDroid".
It comes in a free version[1] (with advertisings) and in a "pro"
version[2] (without advertisings) and supports both GPG and S/MIME.
MailDroid also supports POP and IMAP, and works fine with Googlemail.

You need to install the additional Flipdog CryptoPlugin[3] on your
device, where you import and manage the keys.
You have to create the keys for example on a desktop computer and import
it to your android device and into the CryptoPlugin.

I use MailDroid since several years without any problems, and can fully
recommend it for beginners.

There is also a app named "K-9 Mail"[4], which supports GPG (but not
S/MIME). As far I know you also need several additional software for K-9
Mail.
In my eyes its not really recommendable for beginners. I tried it years
ago and found it a bit complicated to use for myself. But thats a
personal opinion.

The best would be to try both, MailDroid and K-9 Mail and then make your
personal choice.
If you need help with MailDroid you can contact me. For K-9 Mail I am
sure that here are also some people who can help you with it.

best regards
Juergen

[1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maildroid
[2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maildroid.pro
[3] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipdog.crypto.plugin
[4] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9



Am 03.11.18 um 17:04 schrieb Yagthara Aghhay-Boor:
> Hello Group,
> 
> I'm very new to GPG and email encryption and looking for a app to use gpg
> and signed email on my android devices.
> Can you recommend me a email app to use with pgp on Android?
> 
> best
> Masha
> 
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Re: GPG on Android

2018-11-03 Thread Chris Horry
OpenKeychain plus K9, both free and fully featured. 

On November 3, 2018 12:04:45 PM EDT, Yagthara Aghhay-Boor 
 wrote:
>Hello Group,
>
>I'm very new to GPG and email encryption and looking for a app to use
>gpg
>and signed email on my android devices.
>Can you recommend me a email app to use with pgp on Android?
>
>best
>Masha

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Re: GPG on Android

2018-11-03 Thread Wiktor Kwapisiewicz via Gnupg-users
On 03.11.2018 17:04, Yagthara Aghhay-Boor wrote:
> Hello Group,
> 
> I'm very new to GPG and email encryption and looking for a app to use
> gpg and signed email on my android devices.
> Can you recommend me a email app to use with pgp on Android?

Hi,

I recommend using OpenKeychain [0] with K9-Mail. I'm using this combo
for a long time and never had any real problems.

OpenKeychain also supports hardware OpenPGP tokens [1], this makes the
key setup *very* easy on a new phone (not to mention that Termbot can be
added to the mix to login to remote server via SSH keys derived from
OpenPGP Authentication keys).

Kind regards,
Wiktor

[0]: https://www.openkeychain.org/

[1]: https://github.com/open-keychain/open-keychain/wiki/Security-Tokens


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GPG on Android

2018-11-03 Thread Yagthara Aghhay-Boor
Hello Group,

I'm very new to GPG and email encryption and looking for a app to use gpg
and signed email on my android devices.
Can you recommend me a email app to use with pgp on Android?

best
Masha
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GPG on Android

2018-11-03 Thread Yagthara Aghhay-Boor
Hello Group,

I'm very new to GPG and email encryption and looking for a app to use gpg
and signed email on my android devices.
Can you recommend me a email app to use with pgp on Android?

best
Masha
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Re: Slightly OT - i need the proper wording for a signed document

2018-11-03 Thread Stefan Claas

Am 03.11.18 um 17:30 schrieb Juergen BRUCKNER:

Hello Stefan, Hello all,

of course it is possible, that several people sign (and/or timestamp) a
document.
Just a example out of my business:
There is a contract to be signd by mor than 2 persons or parties. So i
make a document of it - for example a pdf file (which is recommended) -
and send it to the next person who has to sign it, this person signs and
send it to another person for signing ... and so on.
As long the document is not edited all signatures stay intact and valid.

This is necessary, as otherwise there never could be signed a contract
between 2 parties.


Hi Jürgen,

thanks for confirming and your explanation.

I must admit that this is all new to me.

I think this may be also a good thing if it would be accepted
by the PGP community, say if someone lost his/her GnuPG
revocation certificate and passphrase for his/her secret key
that one could sign a document too containing the key data
etc., like i proposed with my intial posting.

Regards
Stefan



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Re: Encrypting 27 TB RMAN Backup with GPG

2018-11-03 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 22.10.2018, Satendra Tiwari wrote: 

> In this case, we want to use GPG to encrypt Oracle backup. We have two
> databases of 17 TB and 7 TB they compress to 2.6 TB and 1.3 TB
> respectively.
 
> What would be the best way to encrypt our backup and how long would it take?

I would create a LUKS/cryptsetup container or partition. Using
rotational storage, you will have the same copy speed as the
underlying unencrypted device.


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Re: Slightly OT - i need the proper wording for a signed document

2018-11-03 Thread Juergen BRUCKNER
Hello Stefan, Hello all,

of course it is possible, that several people sign (and/or timestamp) a
document.
Just a example out of my business:
There is a contract to be signd by mor than 2 persons or parties. So i
make a document of it - for example a pdf file (which is recommended) -
and send it to the next person who has to sign it, this person signs and
send it to another person for signing ... and so on.
As long the document is not edited all signatures stay intact and valid.

This is necessary, as otherwise there never could be signed a contract
between 2 parties.

regards
Juergen

Am 03.11.18 um 17:21 schrieb Stefan Claas:
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 10:43:49 +0100, Stefan Claas wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 15:42:40 +0100, Stefan Claas wrote:
> 
>>> I strongly assume that it is also possible that someone
>>> else can sign my .pdf too with a qualified signature and
>>> this will also not invalidate my qualified signature, unless
>>> of course someone would *edit* my document.  
>>
>> Just did a test with an older .pdf, which was signed with my
>> non-qualified D-Trust certificate and time stamped with
>> freetsa. Now i signed it again with my qualified D-Trust certificate
>> and time stamped again.
>>
>> Works perfect! :-)
> 
> Small update: A Usenet friend just signed my .pdf too, with his
> qualified D-Trust certificate and it works like expected. :-)
> 
> Regards
> Stefan
> 
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Re: Slightly OT - i need the proper wording for a signed document

2018-11-03 Thread Stefan Claas
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 10:43:49 +0100, Stefan Claas wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 15:42:40 +0100, Stefan Claas wrote:

> > I strongly assume that it is also possible that someone
> > else can sign my .pdf too with a qualified signature and
> > this will also not invalidate my qualified signature, unless
> > of course someone would *edit* my document.  
> 
> Just did a test with an older .pdf, which was signed with my
> non-qualified D-Trust certificate and time stamped with
> freetsa. Now i signed it again with my qualified D-Trust certificate
> and time stamped again.
> 
> Works perfect! :-)

Small update: A Usenet friend just signed my .pdf too, with his
qualified D-Trust certificate and it works like expected. :-)

Regards
Stefan

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Re: Slightly OT - i need the proper wording for a signed document

2018-11-03 Thread Dirk Gottschalk via Gnupg-users
Hello Wiktor.

Am Freitag, den 02.11.2018, 17:17 +0100 schrieb Wiktor Kwapisiewicz:
> On 02.11.2018 15:35, Dirk Gottschalk wrote:
> > I prefer GPG. And no, GPG does not lack timestamping, a timestamp
> > is
> > included in every signature.

> Signature creation date is not the same as timestamping. As for why
> you may consider the problem of validating signatures made by revoked
> keys. Without timestamping this kind of signature is inherently
> insecure (as the compromised key could be used by the attacker to
> created a backdated signature).

Yeah, I see what you mean. Right, that was out oif my sight.

> For example Authenticode uses timestamping [0] so that old signatures
> can still be considered valid even when the key expires or is revoked
> later.

> Adding something comparable to OpenPGP was discussed [1] on OpenPGP
> ML recently and previously [2].

Thanks for the information.

Regards,
Dirk


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Re: Slightly OT - i need the proper wording for a signed document

2018-11-03 Thread Dirk Gottschalk via Gnupg-users
Hello Juegen.

Am Freitag, den 02.11.2018, 18:27 +0100 schrieb Juergen BRUCKNER:
> Hello Dirk,
> Am 02.11.18 um 15:20 schrieb Dirk Gottschalk via Gnupg-users:
> > You mean, you "tampered" with the file and the signature is still
> > valid? Are you sure? Then Adome does sometging really bad, IMHO.
> > 
> > Such a signature should ensure that the file is unmodified
> > completely.
> > otherwise somebody can modify it in a way that could be used as a
> > backdoor to the signature, at least in theory.
> That is correct, that a signature is valid if there is added a
> timestamp
> AFTER sign the document. Very simplified it uses the same method for
> timestamping as for signing, and it is a kind of 2nd signature on the
> same document. the document is NOT altered or manipulated.

Okay, you're right. When I sign AND timestamp a Document with
LibreOffice, then I'am asked 2 times for my Card-Pin. Seems like the
document is signed first an then the Timestamp. I never gave attention
to this, but your explaination seems to clear up with this phenomenom.

Regards.
Dirk

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Re: Slightly OT - i need the proper wording for a signed document

2018-11-03 Thread Stefan Claas
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 15:42:40 +0100, Stefan Claas wrote:
> Am 02.11.18 um 15:20 schrieb Dirk Gottschalk:
> > Hello Stefan.
> >
> > Am Freitag, den 02.11.2018, 12:53 +0100 schrieb Stefan Claas:  
> >> Hi Wiktor,
> >>
> >> thanks a lot! Now this is awesome... i just timestamped my already
> >> signed .pdf with Adobe Reader DC and this does not invalidate my
> >> qualified signature, when saving the document again! :-) I must
> >> admit i did  not know this.  
> > You mean, you "tampered" with the file and the signature is still
> > valid? Are you sure? Then Adome does sometging really bad, IMHO.
> >
> > Such a signature should ensure that the file is unmodified
> > completely. otherwise somebody can modify it in a way that could be
> > used as a backdoor to the signature, at least in theory.  
> Hi Dirk,
> 
> i did not tampered with the file, i simply used the function
> in Adobe Reader DC to let it *add* a time stamp to my
> document and then saved it again.
> 
> I strongly assume that it is also possible that someone
> else can sign my .pdf too with a qualified signature and
> this will also not invalidate my qualified signature, unless
> of course someone would *edit* my document.

Just did a test with an older .pdf, which was signed with my
non-qualified D-Trust certificate and time stamped with
freetsa. Now i signed it again with my qualified D-Trust certificate
and time stamped again.

Works perfect! :-)

Regards
Stefan

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Re: [openssl-users] OpenSSL vs GPG for encrypting files? Security best practices?

2018-11-03 Thread Марк Коренберг
Try openssl cms ( as newer alternative to s/mime)
пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г. в 23:30, Nicholas Papadonis :
>
> Security Experts,
>
> I'm considering encrypting a tar archive and optionally a block file system 
> (via FUSE) using either utility.  Does anyone have comments on the best 
> practices and tools for either?
>
> I read that the OpenSSL AES-CBC CLI mode is prone to a malleable attack 
> vector and it's CLI interface should not be use directly for production.  I 
> have also read that GPG is the suggested alternative to OpenSSL CLI due to 
> this.  I have followed through with the OpenSSL CLI AES tests and am curious 
> where the malleable attack is (in the pipe?).  I am also curious to why GPG, 
> which is an asymmetric key manager, is used for file based encryption when 
> only a single key is required.  How does GPG solve this malleable attack 
> vector.
>
> A security expert's guidance here is much appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
> Nicholas
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