Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
Radoslaw Skorupka writes:
zBX can run only ONE version of Windows: 64-bit edition of 2008
Enterprise (or so).

No, that's not correct. IBM currently supports any of the Microsoft Windows
Server 2008 SP2 or R2 64-bit X86 editions, not only Enterprise.
Datacenter Edition is recommended due to Microsoft's licensing practices,
but it is not required.

As for 32-bit installation, you might pursue that complaint with Microsoft.
Microsoft removed the option to install 32-bit Windows Server from Windows
Server 2008 R2, introduced almost three years ago. (The zBX arrived well
after that.) If you really wish to run an older 32-bit operating system you
can virtualize it: install your chosen hypervisor on a supported operating
system, then run the older operating system within that.


Timothy Sipples
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Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-10 Thread David Crayford

On 10/05/2012 8:20 AM, George Henke wrote:

ty, David, for the interesting point of view, but it certainly does
conflict with the comparison numbers IBM showed at the zEnterprise Summit.


That's not really surprising considering the actors involved! For a 
lucid perspective you may want to
read Mike Shorkends excellent share presentation 
http://mobile.share.org/client_files/SHARE_in_Atlanta/Session_10441_handout_2139_0.pdf.


Interestingly, IBM have just published information wrt connecting z to 
the new pureSystems hardware. Maybe the zBX wasn't received as well as
IBM hoped. Although probably not surprising when you consider the 
political ramifications of managing distributed systems under a 
mainframe umbrella.


http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/news/announcement/20120411_annc.html





IBM, Timothly/Alan, what say ye?



I look forward to hearing that too.


On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:29 AM, David Crayforddcrayf...@gmail.com  wrote:


On 5/05/2012 2:55 AM, George Henke wrote:


tyvm, John, Mark, Edward.

Mark,

Do I need an Enterprise Class z114 box or will a Business Class one
suffice?

John,

A compelling reason for server consolidation on zBx as IBM pointed out in
their z Summit is that zMIPS GCPs are totally dedicated to regular
workload
processing, no I/O - that is done by the channels, CHPIDs.

Whereas all other servers use the GCPs for both normal processing and I/O.
So all MIPS are not equal.


What IBM didn't mention in the Z Summit was that offloading I/O to
peripheral hardware hasn't been
exclusive to mainframes for a very long time.  Let's take the platform you
want to replace (SPARC)  as an example.

http://developers.sun.com/**solaris/developer/support/**
driver/wps/pci/html/Sun_SPARC.**doc.htmlhttp://developers.sun.com/solaris/developer/support/driver/wps/pci/html/Sun_SPARC.doc.html

The terminology may be different but it sure looks like all the I/O,
including interrupts,  is offloaded to peripheral processors.
Even the much maligned (on this forum) Intel x86 has DMA and the new E5
range even has integrated 10GBe and PCIe-3 on the board.
Mainframe didn't get PCIe-2 until last year, which it re-branded FICON
Express8S.

Years ago when my wife was working for HDS and I had a lively discussion
at a Christmas lunch with some of her colleagues about the the mainframes
superior I/O. They scoffed at me like I had been living in a cave for the
last decade. I was respectfully informed that the high-end UNIX boxes
easily kept pace with the mainframes wrt I/O performance. Most
embarrassing was the fact that mainframes were still huffing and puffing
away on half-duplex ESCON when the competition was racing away on super
fast fibre channel. That was a very humbling experience for me.


  Since most commerical workloads are I/O, not CPU, bound this amounts to

substantial CPU savings.

Also, it is the IBM operating system architecture, FLIH, that enables this
to happen and there is no other server in the world that is configured
thus.


Maybe I'm missing the point but what does a z/OS FLIH have to do with
porting workloads to zLinux?


  On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:39 PM, McKown, John

john.mck...@healthmarkets.com**wrote:

  -Original Message-

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Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 1:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

and the dinosaurs are very hungry.

I need to migrate 50 Solaris servers to zLinux under z/VM on
a z114 and
about the same number of Windows servers to zBx.


Congrats!

  Does anyone have experience with this, some ideas?
Experience, no. Ideas, sure! Why not?grin

  Need a migration path.

Some questions:

Can z114 be upgraded to include zBx or must I upgrade to a
z196 for that?


I am not sure.

  Can zBx be SYSPLEXed between 2 CECs?
No. a zBx can be attached to at most 1 CEC.

  If not, how do I eliminate the SPF, how do I do failover for the blade

servers?


SPF? Single point of failure? You need to have multiple z114s with and
associated zBX.
I think you'd do failover just like you would with any other racked
mounted servers.
If the rack fails, all the servers fail. So you need the same techniques
with a zBX rack.
I'm not a PC person, but I think this involves TCP connections between a
server and it's failover
twin.

  How do I convert Solaris to zLInux under z/VM?  Solaris is

not supported by
zBx.
Must I recompile the applications running under Solaris to
run them under
zLinux?


Yes, you must recompile. z/Linux runs on the z/Architecture instruction
set. Solaris runs on
Intel or SPARC(?). You can't run Intel or SPARC instructions on a z.
However there are two exceptions
that I can think of which __may__ not need recompilation. The first is
Java code. The .jar and .class
files should run on any compatible JVM, regardless of the underlying
hardware architecture. Another
possibility is .NET applications. They __might__ run on a z/Linux using

Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-10 Thread George Henke
So the moral of this story is that the Big Bad Wolf (the IBM MF) ate all
the little sheep (Windows, Solaris, HP-UX, CITRIX servers, and switches)
even though everyone in town was warned 3 times.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Kerneels de Wet 
kerne...@absoftwareconsultants.com wrote:

 George/Timothy/Radoslaw,

 This is were you should start saying ?  ETC. ETC. ETC

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-t7uVdID3s

 George: or maybe you should tell everybody the story about The Boy that
 cried WOLF .. but wait.. let me first put my running shoes on.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrDhoS37cegfeature=related

 Kerneels

 
  P.S. I'm not zBX enemy. I'm not biased - I don't sell neither Dell
 blades, nor zBX. I only say the king is naked (hope you know The
 Emperor's New Clothes by Andersen).
 

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Re: Implementing CA-MIM using FCTC

2012-05-10 Thread Vince Getgood
CA-MIM is now working!

I'm not exactly sure how, but the sequence of events was: -

Tuesday
IBM wanted to do some resiliance testing on our FICON infastructure, 'cos it's 
new, so we varied offline all our FICON devices, and Configed the CHPids off on 
our production systems, so that the ops didn't get panicked (bless 'em)

CA suggested we put the latest maint on - this hadn't been done (I inherited 
this remember), so I did that, but with the FICON testing going on, I 
restricted myself to trying to get MIICTC printing useful messages, which I 
never got.

Wednesday
FICON testing complete, all CHPids configured back on, all FICON devices varied 
back on the system.

Discovered I had not installed all the maint, so did that.

Started CA-MIM without the resource serialisation bit switched on (management 
mode) and it came up!

So it was either an issue with the FICON, which was sorted out during vary / 
config off / on, or a PTF being applied.

My money is on the FICON!

Thanks to all!

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Re: Get JES[2|3] Output from a job with REXX

2012-05-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Uwe Oswald wrote:

... since I need a [ REXX - my insertion ... ] solution which is independent 
of JESx and SDFS, IOF, EJES 

Independent? AFAIK in REXX, you need to find out in what environment, what 
JESx, etc, you are running, then you need to call from REXX something 
externally using SAPI to get your output. 

Perhaps you could look at Shmuel's answer he kindly provided to your question.

Look in JES Application Programming. Hopefully there is something useful there.

Or ...

look at SDSF's REXX. (System REXX) There are documented sample REXX programs 
where you use REXX with calls to SDSF to extract outputs from jobs. Look in 
'SDSF Operation and Customization' book.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Discussion groups devoted to Mainframe(zos) automation tools

2012-05-10 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
Hello; 

 Are there discussion groups similar to IBM-MAIN that are devoted to
Mainframe automation tools? 

 

Kenneth J. Kripke (kkri...@mindspring.com)

 


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UPDATING LAST REFERNCE DATE

2012-05-10 Thread John Dawes
G'Day To All,
 
Is there a batch job/utility I could use to update the last reference date of a 
dsn?  I understand that I can do it by browsing the dsn, however since I have 
about 335 dsns it would be cumbersome.  I tried a LISTCAT but it did not change 
the last reference date.  The reason why I want to do this is to prevent the 
expiration of these dsns.  I realise that SMS management class modification 
would do the trick but these dsns are not in a SMS managed environment.  There 
is a DFDSS job which  runs to delete these dsns if they haven't been referred 
for 6 months.
 
Thanks.

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Re: UPDATING LAST REFERNCE DATE

2012-05-10 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au wrote in message 
news:1336651313.17657.yahoomail...@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com...
 G'Day To All,
  
 Is there a batch job/utility I could use to update the last reference date of 
 a dsn?  I understand that I can do it by browsing the dsn, however since I 
 have about 335 dsns it would be cumbersome.  I tried a LISTCAT but it did not 
 change the last reference date.  The reason why I want to do this is to 
 prevent the expiration of these dsns.  I realise that SMS management class 
 modification would do the trick but these dsns are not in a SMS managed 
 environment.  There is a DFDSS job which  runs to delete these dsns if they 
 haven't been referred for 6 months.
  
 Thanks.
 

CA-DISK has a utility to update F1-DSCB fields.

Otherwise: IDCAMS steps with ddnames Fnnn and PRINT INFILE(Fnnn) COUNT(1) 
statements. This reads only 1 record, not the entire file.

Kees.

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RES: JES/328X Print Facility problems

2012-05-10 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Hi,

We do have JES328X working on z/OS 1.12 and 1.13 with no issues.
It's a kind of software that is rarely modified, even when changing
z/OS releases.

Did you change any VTAM or JES2 definition ?
Don't discard a hardware problem too.

I don't know if it helps but our BUFSIZE is 1520.

Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos

Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
BANCO BRADESCO S.A.
4254 / DPCD Engenharia de Software
Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes
Tel: +55 11 3684-2177 R: 42177 3-1402
Fax: +55 11 4197-2814

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Enviada em: quarta-feira, 9 de maio de 2012 16:19
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Assunto: JES/328X Print Facility problems

We've been running JES/328X for years with mostly just success. The version we 
have is Version 3.2.0.

Recently we've been encountering this series of errors:

BAZ202 TLU SESSION STARTED
BAZ012 T023,RTNCD=0C0B REQUEST CANCELLED - SESSION TERMINATED
BAZ254 T023,NSEXIT - SESSION TERMINATED
BAZ254 T023,NSEXIT - SESSION TERMINATED
BAZ254 T005,NSEXIT - SESSION TERMINATED
BAZ254 J006,NSEXIT - SESSION TERMINATED
BAZ201 STOPPED

A normal print sequence will have these two messages:

BAZ202 TLU SESSION STARTED
BAZ210 TLU SESSION ENDED

Always seems to be the same error series. On some occasions we've changed the 
BUFSIZE from whatever it was to 1024 and that has seemed to help in most 
instances. The only thing we've done lately in the software arena is upgrade to 
Zos 1.11.

Any Ideas.

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Modern users of old tech

2012-05-10 Thread McKown, John
http://www.itworld.com/hardware/270936/living-computing-fossils-old-tech-holding-dear-life

Interesting. A company in Texas still using an IBM 402 tab machine is an 
example.

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Re: UPDATING LAST REFERNCE DATE

2012-05-10 Thread John Dawes
Kees,
 
We don't have CA-DISK in this partition nor do we have FDR.  This is a bare 
bones LPAR.  I tried the IDCAMS PRINT and it worked.  Thanks for your 
suggestions and help.



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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
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Subject: Re: UPDATING LAST REFERNCE DATE

John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au wrote in message 
news:1336651313.17657.yahoomail...@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com...
 G'Day To All,
  
 Is there a batch job/utility I could use to update the last reference date of 
 a dsn?  I understand that I can do it by browsing the dsn, however since I 
 have about 335 dsns it would be cumbersome.  I tried a LISTCAT but it did not 
 change the last reference date.  The reason why I want to do this is to 
 prevent the expiration of these dsns.  I realise that SMS management class 
 modification would do the trick but these dsns are not in a SMS managed 
 environment.  There is a DFDSS job which  runs to delete these dsns if they 
 haven't been referred for 6 months.
  
 Thanks.
 

CA-DISK has a utility to update F1-DSCB fields.

Otherwise: IDCAMS steps with ddnames Fnnn and PRINT INFILE(Fnnn) COUNT(1) 
statements. This reads only 1 record, not the entire file.

Kees.

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Re: Discussion groups devoted to Mainframe(zos) automation tools

2012-05-10 Thread Zaromil Tisler
 Are there discussion groups similar to IBM-MAIN that are devoted to
Mainframe automation tools? 

For Tivoli System Automation for z/OS and Tivoli System Automation for 
Multiplatforms
you will find links on the last page in the System Automation for z/OS: 101
 
https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/resources/servers_eserver_zseries_software_sa_techresources_System_Automation_for_zOS_Basics.pps
 

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Re: UPDATING LAST REFERNCE DATE

2012-05-10 Thread McKown, John
I'm not aware of anything distributed by IBM. Why not just write some REXX code 
to use IGGCSI00 to find the DSNs you want (or parse a LISTCAT) and use that to 
generate a series of jobs. Each job just does something like:

//JOBNAME JOB ...
//TOUCH EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//INDSN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=dsn
//SYSIN DD *
 PRINT INFILE(INDSN) COUNT(1)
/*
//

Submit those from your REXX simply by using EXECIO to a DD name such as: 
//SUBMIT DD SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR)

Now for my obligatory weird way to use UNIX to do this. Install Dovetailed 
Technologies' Data Set Pipes and Co:Z launcher. In fact, get all their stuff. 
It's really great and is freely licensed (you don't even need to register, or 
give them an email address or anything). Run a job such as:

//TOUCH EXEC PROC=COZPROC
//STDOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//STDERR DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN  DD *
catsearch -l 'HLQ.**'|\
awk '$9 == PS  $1 != MIGRAT {print $NF;}' |\
while read i;do
fromdsn $i|head -1 /dev/null 21
done
/*
//

No, I don't suggest doing this! I just sometimes like to mess around with some 
of the other members' minds. You know who you are! grin

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 Subject: UPDATING LAST REFERNCE DATE
 
 G'Day To All,
  
 Is there a batch job/utility I could use to update the last 
 reference date of a dsn?  I understand that I can do it by 
 browsing the dsn, however since I have about 335 dsns it 
 would be cumbersome.  I tried a LISTCAT but it did not change 
 the last reference date.  The reason why I want to do this is 
 to prevent the expiration of these dsns.  I realise that SMS 
 management class modification would do the trick but these 
 dsns are not in a SMS managed environment.  There is a DFDSS 
 job which  runs to delete these dsns if they haven't been 
 referred for 6 months.
  
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Re: Convert CPU time to MSUs

2012-05-10 Thread Hal Merritt
 SU_SEC = SU_HOUR / (ENGINES * 60 * 60)

Not quite, I think. You don't get the full 60 seconds for each additional 
engine.  Better:

SU_SEC = SU_HOUR / ((ENGINES * 60 * 60)*FACTOR) 

Where FACTOR is less than 1.0. 

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Subject: Convert CPU time to MSUs

Hello all

We would like to convert CPU seconds copnsumed by an address space in 1 hour 
(CPUSECs) to Service Units (SU).

Our machine has 5 engines. Is it true that we have available 18000 CPU seconds?

SU = CPUSECs * SU_SEC 

where

SU_SEC = SU_HOUR / (ENGINES * 60 * 60)


Where SU_HOUR is the number of our machine available Service Units per Hour and 
SU_SEC is the equivalent Service units /sec factor.

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Re: corrupt zip files

2012-05-10 Thread Hal Merritt
Too many unknowns to be of much help. 

Can't even begin to answer your question about what software would produce a 
given corruption pattern; there are -so- many possibilities where a translation 
might occur and thus corrupt the data. Indeed, the corruption might be as 
massive as what you are seeing, or as small as just a single charaer. The 
translation may even be happening more than once. 

For example, I have seen Windows translate a file sent in binary mode. I had to 
actally name the incomming file xxx.BIN to get Windows to leave it alone. 

I don't know of any good way to attack this withoug going all the way back to 
initial file creation, understand the file attributes (to include local code 
page), then step through the transmission process understanding exactly what is 
happening at each step.  

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Subject: corrupt zip files

I have a zip file that appears to have been produced using pkzip for z/OS.

However, it looks like it has been transmitted using some sort of text 
protocol, because the high bit has been stripped from most bytes, and some 
other bytes appear to have been translated. e.g. I think x'0a' in the input 
file has been mangled to x'b6' on the way. Does anyone know what software would 
do a translation like that?
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Re: corrupt zip files

2012-05-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 May 2012 14:23:10 +, Hal Merritt wrote:

I don't know of any good way to attack this withoug going all the way back to 
initial file creation, understand the file attributes (to include local code 
page), then step through the transmission process understanding exactly what 
is happening at each step.
 
Why are checksum utilities so rare in the Classic mainframe and Windows
worlds?

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Re: Convert CPU time to MSUs

2012-05-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Hal Merritt wrote:

 SU_SEC = SU_HOUR / (ENGINES * 60 * 60)
Not quite, I think. You don't get the full 60 seconds for each additional 
engine.  Better:
SU_SEC = SU_HOUR / ((ENGINES * 60 * 60)*FACTOR)
Where FACTOR is less than 1.0.

You are right of course. Could you be kind to please post any documentations or 
links about that 'FACTOR'?

Just curious if you don't mind please.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Convert CPU time to MSUs

2012-05-10 Thread John Gilmore
Factor is in fact a decreasing function of ENGINES.  It drops off in a
moderately but clearly convex way with increasing values of ENGINES.
You need a table of the form

ENGINES(1) = 1
ENGINES(2) = . . .
. . .
ENGINES(n) = . . .

There is a recent SHARE presentation that contains such a table.
Unhelpfully, I cannot remember its title or who gave it.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: Convert CPU time to MSUs

2012-05-10 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 10 May 2012 10:55:42 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:

Factor is in fact a decreasing function of ENGINES.  It drops off in a
moderately but clearly convex way with increasing values of ENGINES.
You need a table of the form

You could derive such a table from the charts on 
https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/lib03060.nsf/pages/srmindex?OpenDocument
 .

Or you could use the SU/second information for your processor from the tables.

Or you could get the factor from the SRM control block that contains it. 
Search the MVS bookshelf for SERVICE UNIT and you will find several hits. 
The IRARMCTZ looks promising.  SHOWMVS is another possible resource.

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Fw: UPDATING LAST REFERNCE DATE

2012-05-10 Thread Don Melton
Forgot that I had to reply to mailing list not post to newsgroup ...

Don numberfiveplus...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:qWRqr.1478$rd5@newsfe02.iad...
 I used to invoke the TSO LISTDS command to reset the last ref date on my

 TSO libraries in the bad old days when HSM recalls were less than
snappy. 
 :-)
 
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  I'm not aware of anything distributed by IBM. Why not just write some
REXX 
  code to use IGGCSI00 to find the DSNs you want (or parse a LISTCAT) and 
  use that to generate a series of jobs. Each job just does something
like:
 
  //JOBNAME JOB ...
  //TOUCH EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
  //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
  //INDSN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=dsn
  //SYSIN DD *
  PRINT INFILE(INDSN) COUNT(1)
  /*
  //
 
  Submit those from your REXX simply by using EXECIO to a DD name such as:

  //SUBMIT DD SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR)
 
  Now for my obligatory weird way to use UNIX to do this. Install
Dovetailed 
  Technologies' Data Set Pipes and Co:Z launcher. In fact, get all their 
  stuff. It's really great and is freely licensed (you don't even need to 
  register, or give them an email address or anything). Run a job such as:
 
  //TOUCH EXEC PROC=COZPROC
  //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=*
  //STDERR DD SYSOUT=*
  //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
  //SYSIN  DD *
  catsearch -l 'HLQ.**'|\
  awk '$9 == PS  $1 != MIGRAT {print $NF;}' |\
  while read i;do
  fromdsn $i|head -1 /dev/null 21
  done
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  //
 
  No, I don't suggest doing this! I just sometimes like to mess around
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  Subject: UPDATING LAST REFERNCE DATE
 
  G'Day To All,
 
  Is there a batch job/utility I could use to update the last
  reference date of a dsn? I understand that I can do it by
  browsing the dsn, however since I have about 335 dsns it
  would be cumbersome. I tried a LISTCAT but it did not change
  the last reference date. The reason why I want to do this is
  to prevent the expiration of these dsns. I realise that SMS
  management class modification would do the trick but these
  dsns are not in a SMS managed environment. There is a DFDSS
  job which runs to delete these dsns if they haven't been
  referred for 6 months.
 
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Re: Discussion groups devoted to Mainframe(zos) automation tools

2012-05-10 Thread Mitch

Ken:

There are a number of them on LinkedIn. If you are looking for an 
overall suite of tools for automating the mainframe, look at the RES 
Suite from Visiant Arcares (www.res-it.com).


Regards,

Mitch McCluhan,
Legacy Modernization Consultant


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Hello;

Are there discussion groups similar to IBM-MAIN that are devoted to
Mainframe automation tools?



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Re: Convert CPU time to MSUs

2012-05-10 Thread John Gilmore
Some experimentation for plausible ranges of FACTOR values strongly
suggests that this computation should be done with an appropriate mean
in each specific context.  My suggestion of a table was thus a more
valuable one than I realized when I made it.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: Modern users of old tech

2012-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b4...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 05/10/2012
   at 07:25 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:

Interesting. A company in Texas still using an IBM 402 tab 
machine is an example.

Masochism?
 
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Re: Convert CPU time to MSUs

2012-05-10 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 8 May 2012 08:33:18 -0500, K Zafirop kzafiropou...@eurobank.gr wrote:

We would like to convert CPU seconds copnsumed by an address space in 1 hour 
(CPUSECs) to Service Units (SU).


Here is how SHOWMVS calculates SU/Second:

*   
*Service units per second (using RMCTADJC)  
*   
*Source: IRARMCPU module in SYS1.NUCLEUS(IEAVNP10)  
*   
HARD20   L R6,WKCELL3  restore CPU noRS0101 
 L R3,=F'1600' 16,000,000   
 M R2,=F'1'10K  
 L R14,CVTOPCTPRESOURCE MANAGER CONTROL TABLE   
 D R2,RMCTADJC-RMCT(,R14)  adjustment factor for CPU
 CVD   R3,WKCELL3  R3=SU*1  
 MVC   WORK256(11),=X'4020202020214B20202020' 9.
 EDWORK256(11),WKCELL3+3   EDIT 
 STRING '  This system can deliver',(WORK256,11),  X
   ' service units per second',X
   INTO=LINE

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### of GDG Entries

2012-05-10 Thread Donnelly, John
We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a day; 
please don't ask.
Is there any way to create or pretend to create a GDG base greater than 255...

John Donnelly
Texas Instruments SVA
2900 Semiconductor Drive
Santa Clara, CA 95051
408-721-5640
408-470-8364 Cell
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Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-10 Thread Staller, Allan
Short answer... NO. 
The data can be kept after it rolls off the GDG, but it is just a file
at that point and must be referenced by the fully
qualified DSN e.g. x.y.x.gvnn

snip

We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a
day; please don't ask.
Is there any way to create or pretend to create a GDG base greater than
255...
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Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-10 Thread Williamson, James R
I really doubt it. 
 
How about creating one GDG base for each hour of the day and include the hour 
of the day created in the data set name? 
 
 

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Subject: ### of GDG Entries

We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a day; 
please don't ask.
Is there any way to create or pretend to create a GDG base greater than 255...

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Texas Instruments SVA
2900 Semiconductor Drive
Santa Clara, CA 95051
408-721-5640
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Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-10 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Donnelly, John john.p.donne...@ti.comwrote:

 We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a day;
 please don't ask.
 Is there any way to create or pretend to create a GDG base greater than
 255...


Short answer: No.  Max GDG limit is 255.

A GDG dataset with the NOEMPTY,NOSCRATCH in an SMS managed environment will
recatalog entries over the limit to a rolled-off status.  These datasets
will no longer be associated with the GDG base.

Entries not associated with a GDG base will NOT be automatically
concatenated when the related GDG base is used as a family.

You will also have to delete rolled-off datasets defined as noempty,
noscratch via some type of utility.

Sam


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Re: Modern users of old tech

2012-05-10 Thread Rick Fochtman

On 5/10/2012 1:58 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

Ina6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b4...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 05/10/2012
at 07:25 AM, McKown, Johnjohn.mck...@healthmarkets.com  said:


Interesting. A company in Texas still using an IBM 402 tab
machine is an example.

Masochism?


Either that or a latent death wish.  :-)

Rick

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Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-10 Thread Linda
Hi John,

I have had I similar GDG 'thing'.  It would be helpful to know more details...

In my case, we were receiving a widely varying number of reports that we were 
to backup and print for our customer. We scheduled the print job to run every 8 
hours. The operations staff fit the actual printing in to meet customer needs.

Would that work for you?

Another option might include merging the generations to another dataset. 
HTH,

Linda

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 We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a day; 
 please don't ask.
 Is there any way to create or pretend to create a GDG base greater than 255...
 
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Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-10 Thread Donnelly, John
Thankyou all

John Donnelly 
Texas Instruments SVA 
2900 Semiconductor Drive 
Santa Clara, CA 95051 
408-721-5640 
408-470-8364 Cell 
john.p.donne...@ti.com 


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Linda
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:28 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: ### of GDG Entries

Hi John,

I have had I similar GDG 'thing'.  It would be helpful to know more details...

In my case, we were receiving a widely varying number of reports that we were 
to backup and print for our customer. We scheduled the print job to run every 8 
hours. The operations staff fit the actual printing in to meet customer needs.

Would that work for you?

Another option might include merging the generations to another dataset. 
HTH,

Linda

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 We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a day; 
 please don't ask.
 Is there any way to create or pretend to create a GDG base greater than 255...
 
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 Santa Clara, CA 95051
 408-721-5640
 408-470-8364 Cell
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Codepages and locales

2012-05-10 Thread Phil Smith
How many z/OS shops actually run with a different locale (codepage)?

I mean both globally for the entire system as well as within one or more 
databases.

I'm assuming the second set is much larger than the first; it's the first I'm 
really interested in.

Thanks.

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Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-10 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2012-05-10 22:12, Donnelly, John pisze:

We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a day; 
please don't ask.
Is there any way to create or pretend to create a GDG base greater than 255...

g
NO. THE LIMIT IS 255.
However...
a) you can live with rolled off generations. You will see all the 
generations you created (up to ) and max. 255 of them can be 
referenced as relative - that means HLQ.GDGNAME(-200) vs 
HLQ.GDGNAME.G0200V00.


b) (I think nobody mentioned it!). You can use your batch scheduler 
facilities. Mostsuch products do offer an alternative to old stinking 
GDG. For example, in ControlM you can use HLQ.SOMENAME.D%%ODATE - which 
could mean HLQ.SOMENAME.D120510.


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Re: Modern users of old tech

2012-05-10 Thread Mike Schwab
And the owner of the last blank punch card supplied died and the
company closed up.

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote:
 On 5/10/2012 1:58 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

 Ina6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b4...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
 on 05/10/2012
    at 07:25 AM, McKown, Johnjohn.mck...@healthmarkets.com  said:

 Interesting. A company in Texas still using an IBM 402 tab
 machine is an example.

 Masochism?

 Either that or a latent death wish.  :-)

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SFTP

2012-05-10 Thread Mark Steely
We have a Linux server which grabs files from the mainframe using FTP.

We need to use SFTP to get the files.

I have the IBM ported tools.

Do we need to have the SSHD daemon running to recognize the FTP's or am I going 
down the wrong path.

Or could we use SCP?  We are z/os V1r11.

Any help would be appreciated.

Any setup information would be helpful.

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Re: Modern users of old tech

2012-05-10 Thread William Donzelli
 And the owner of the last blank punch card supplied died and the
 company closed up.

So of course, I bought 100,000 cards, just in case.

Actually, I have been helping the widow a little to close up shop for good.
Anyone need an 083, cheap? She has two. Great for the family room or office.

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Re: Codepages and locales

2012-05-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 May 2012 14:52:17 -0700, Phil Smith wrote:

How many z/OS shops actually run with a different locale (codepage)?

I mean both globally for the entire system as well as within one or more 
databases.

I'm assuming the second set is much larger than the first; it's the first I'm 
really interested in.
 
Different from what.  Everything is different from something else.
Perhaps different from IBM-1047?

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Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-10 Thread Cris Hernandez #9
does it have to be a gdg? 

what about mod'ing onto the file then emptying it out when it's processed? 

back it up with a gdg with that batch job at regular intervals suggestion.  





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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: ### of GDG Entries
 
Thankyou all

John Donnelly 
Texas Instruments SVA 
2900 Semiconductor Drive 
Santa Clara, CA 95051 
408-721-5640 
408-470-8364 Cell 
john.p.donne...@ti.com 


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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:28 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: ### of GDG Entries

Hi John,

I have had I similar GDG 'thing'.  It would be helpful to know more details...

In my case, we were receiving a widely varying number of reports that we were 
to backup and print for our customer. We scheduled the print job to run every 8 
hours. The operations staff fit the actual printing in to meet customer needs.

Would that work for you?

Another option might include merging the generations to another dataset. 
HTH,

Linda

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Donnelly, John john.p.donne...@ti.com wrote:

 We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a day; 
 please don't ask.
 Is there any way to create or pretend to create a GDG base greater than 255...
 
 John Donnelly
 Texas Instruments SVA
 2900 Semiconductor Drive
 Santa Clara, CA 95051
 408-721-5640
 408-470-8364 Cell
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Re: SFTP

2012-05-10 Thread Rob Schramm
Mark,

Can you clarify...

Is z/OS the client or the server?

Rob Schramm
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Imperium Group


On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Mark Steely mark.ste...@wnco.com wrote:
 We have a Linux server which grabs files from the mainframe using FTP.

 We need to use SFTP to get the files.

 I have the IBM ported tools.

 Do we need to have the SSHD daemon running to recognize the FTP's or am I 
 going down the wrong path.

 Or could we use SCP?  We are z/os V1r11.

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Any setup information would be helpful.

 Thanks



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Re: XPAF replacement

2012-05-10 Thread Troy Wilson
Hello Mr. Neto,

I suspect that the information you have received may have been misinterpreted 
from a notice that went out last year which stated that End of Support for XPAF 
V3.X  would be effective December 15th, 2011.  The notice further mentioned 
that all current XPAF customers should migrate to V5.0 prior to the V3.X End of 
Support date.

As previously mentioned in this thread we have just released updates for 
version V5.0 and are actively supporting this product.

XPAF 5.0 Software Link - 
http://www.support.xerox.com/support/xpaf/software/enus.html 

XPAF 5.0 Documentation Link - 
http://www.support.xerox.com/support/xpaf/documentation/enus.html?operatingSystem=_alloperatingsystemsfileLanguage=en

With the recent enhancements added in XPAF V5.0 including the Xerox Forms 
Generator module, the industry trend to move away from channel connectivity in 
favor of TCP/IP connectivity and the XPAF CPU based licensing strategy with no 
per printer charges, XPAF is gaining momentum in the marketplace.

Best regards,

Troy Wilson
Technical Program Manager
Alliance  Partnership Management
The Xerox Connection - TXC
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Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-10 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
Mark,

Based on the feedback that we had received from the ESP customers, the comments 
that I have received here were a surprise; I had expected the comments to have 
gone in other directions.

W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development

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Re: SFTP

2012-05-10 Thread Mark Douglas (CITEC)
Hi Mark,

I customised an SSH client setup via ported tools on z/OS 1.11 a couple of 
years back:

1. The SSHD (daemon) is only required if your z/OS system is to be the SSH 
server, ie if your remote Linux server needs to initiate a connection to your 
z/OS system on port 22 (SSH). If your z/OS system only initiates connections to 
the remote Linux server, then you do not need SSHD, just SSH setup (ie 
/etc/ssh/... files as per Ported Tools users guide). 

2. I didn't use scp, instead set up ftp style scripts, then invoked them via a 
shell ssh command in JCL, eg:

//STDPARM  DD  * sh sftp -vvv -F /etc/ssh/sshconf -b /hfs/dir/sftpbat.file
userid@remote_host

The sftpbat file looks just like an FTP script, eg:

Password
Cd /remote/dir/
Pwd
Dir
bin
Get remote_file local_file
Dir
Exit

3. The public/private key pair may be generated to a hfs file via the 
ssh-keygen, which may be read and thus used by anyone with superuser (UID 0) in 
your USS environment (no, not Unformatted System Services even though I'm a 
VTAM guy). The more secure approach is to generate your keys in a RACF keyring, 
then reference them via the 'IdentityKeyRingLabel' parameter in a 
zos_user_ssh_config file, in the case of an SSH client configuration. Note the 
default search list for this file is ~/.ssh/zos_user_ssh_config, eg 
/u/userid/.ssh/zos_user_ssh_config.

Cheers,
MARK DOUGLAS

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Subject: SFTP

We have a Linux server which grabs files from the mainframe using FTP.

We need to use SFTP to get the files.

I have the IBM ported tools.

Do we need to have the SSHD daemon running to recognize the FTP's or am I going 
down the wrong path.

Or could we use SCP?  We are z/os V1r11.

Any help would be appreciated.

Any setup information would be helpful.

Thanks



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Re: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .

2012-05-10 Thread George Henke
Well, all is not lost, David.

Thanks for the tip on PureSystems.

I just set up a meeting for tomorrow with our IBM zSeries rep.

According to him, the PureFlex product of the PureSystems family, announced
April 19 and April 11 respectively, is the next generation zBx and much
more open systems oriented.

He admitted that zBx was somewhat limited to IBM and recommended PureFlex
instead.

Evidently, the zBx is more IBM facing, whereas PureFlex is much more open
systems facing and able to support VMware among other things.  It also has
better access to mainframe data and there are plans to increase its
internal lan speed from 10G to 40G.

My faith in IBM MF is beginning to be restored.

IBM had said at their Summit that their approach is to move the processing
to the data not the data to the processing.

The data resides on the MF which is best suited for processing it.

So it makes no sense to move the data to less efficient platforms for
processing.

Much better to move the processing closer to the data on the MF.

This appears to be what PureFlex is designed to do.

I will know more tomorrow after I meet with 2 IBM zSeries SMEs.



On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:17 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10/05/2012 8:20 AM, George Henke wrote:

 ty, David, for the interesting point of view, but it certainly does
 conflict with the comparison numbers IBM showed at the zEnterprise Summit.


 That's not really surprising considering the actors involved! For a lucid
 perspective you may want to
 read Mike Shorkends excellent share presentation http://mobile.share.org/*
 *client_files/SHARE_in_Atlanta/**Session_10441_handout_2139_0.**pdfhttp://mobile.share.org/client_files/SHARE_in_Atlanta/Session_10441_handout_2139_0.pdf
 .

 Interestingly, IBM have just published information wrt connecting z to the
 new pureSystems hardware. Maybe the zBX wasn't received as well as
 IBM hoped. Although probably not surprising when you consider the
 political ramifications of managing distributed systems under a mainframe
 umbrella.

 http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/**z/news/announcement/20120411_**annc.htmlhttp://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/news/announcement/20120411_annc.html





 IBM, Timothly/Alan, what say ye?


 I look forward to hearing that too.

  On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:29 AM, David Crayforddcrayf...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  On 5/05/2012 2:55 AM, George Henke wrote:

  tyvm, John, Mark, Edward.

 Mark,

 Do I need an Enterprise Class z114 box or will a Business Class one
 suffice?

 John,

 A compelling reason for server consolidation on zBx as IBM pointed out
 in
 their z Summit is that zMIPS GCPs are totally dedicated to regular
 workload
 processing, no I/O - that is done by the channels, CHPIDs.

 Whereas all other servers use the GCPs for both normal processing and
 I/O.
 So all MIPS are not equal.

  What IBM didn't mention in the Z Summit was that offloading I/O to
 peripheral hardware hasn't been
 exclusive to mainframes for a very long time.  Let's take the platform
 you
 want to replace (SPARC)  as an example.

 http://developers.sun.com/solaris/developer/support/**http://developers.sun.com/**solaris/developer/support/**
 driver/wps/pci/html/Sun_SPARC.doc.htmlhttp://developers.**
 sun.com/solaris/developer/**support/driver/wps/pci/html/**
 Sun_SPARC.doc.htmlhttp://developers.sun.com/solaris/developer/support/driver/wps/pci/html/Sun_SPARC.doc.html
 


 The terminology may be different but it sure looks like all the I/O,
 including interrupts,  is offloaded to peripheral processors.
 Even the much maligned (on this forum) Intel x86 has DMA and the new E5
 range even has integrated 10GBe and PCIe-3 on the board.
 Mainframe didn't get PCIe-2 until last year, which it re-branded FICON
 Express8S.

 Years ago when my wife was working for HDS and I had a lively discussion
 at a Christmas lunch with some of her colleagues about the the mainframes
 superior I/O. They scoffed at me like I had been living in a cave for the
 last decade. I was respectfully informed that the high-end UNIX boxes
 easily kept pace with the mainframes wrt I/O performance. Most
 embarrassing was the fact that mainframes were still huffing and puffing
 away on half-duplex ESCON when the competition was racing away on super
 fast fibre channel. That was a very humbling experience for me.


  Since most commerical workloads are I/O, not CPU, bound this amounts to

 substantial CPU savings.

 Also, it is the IBM operating system architecture, FLIH, that enables
 this
 to happen and there is no other server in the world that is configured
 thus.

  Maybe I'm missing the point but what does a z/OS FLIH have to do with
 porting workloads to zLinux?


  On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:39 PM, McKown, John

 john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote:

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Re: Modern users of old tech

2012-05-10 Thread Scott Ford
An 083 for the living room, great conversation piece

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com

On May 10, 2012, at 6:21 PM, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.com wrote:

 And the owner of the last blank punch card supplied died and the
 company closed up.
 
 So of course, I bought 100,000 cards, just in case.
 
 Actually, I have been helping the widow a little to close up shop for good.
 Anyone need an 083, cheap? She has two. Great for the family room or office.
 
 --
 Will
 
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Away friday, back monday

2012-05-10 Thread John Stevenson
I will be out of the office starting 10/05/2012 and will return on
14/05/2012.

For anything urgent contact the Mainframe Services support number, x79371
or 04 924 9371 or email BNZ Mainframe Services.


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Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-10 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg

At 20:12 + on 05/10/2012, Donnelly, John wrote about ### of GDG Entries:

We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a 
day; please don't ask.

Is there any way to create or pretend to create a GDG base greater than 255...


Why not concatenate all of them daily and create a new GDG entry from 
the result (ie: Have as single master GDG dataset for each day). That 
way you would have the last 255 days worth of data. Is there any need 
to be able to separately access each of the GDGs created?


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Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-10 Thread Mike Schwab
We have Mobius that creates report files with the date and time as
part of the file name.  Huge numbers of 1 track datasets.

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com wrote:
 At 20:12 + on 05/10/2012, Donnelly, John wrote about ### of GDG Entries:

 We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a day;
 please don't ask.
 Is there any way to create or pretend to create a GDG base greater than
 255...


 Why not concatenate all of them daily and create a new GDG entry from the
 result (ie: Have as single master GDG dataset for each day). That way you
 would have the last 255 days worth of data. Is there any need to be able to
 separately access each of the GDGs created?

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