subject:"Re\: \[Kicad\-developers\] Stable release update."

Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2018-06-12 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski

On 12/06/18 16:18, John Beard wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> Great news!
> 
> I have one suggestion for a currently-un-milestoned bug that I'd (partly
> selfishly) really like to see fixed for v5:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1518694
> 
> This is the one where you can't shift posture when routing to a pad in
> the PNS router. It's certainly not a critical bug, and can be worked
> around by routing "backwards". However, if it's an easy fix (I'm trying
> to find it, but I don't know anything about the router code, so I have
> so far only managed to add a ton of trace and confuse myself), it would
> be shame IMO to leave it in for release. It's something that pretty much
> all users of the PNS router would run into almost as soon as they try to
> use it. If it's a harder fix or introduces unacceptably risky changes to
> the router, then it can wait.

Hi John,

I'll have a look at this.

Tom
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Wayne Stambaugh  > wrote:
> 
> I apologize for being absent the last few days but I had out of town
> guests visiting and I didn't want to be rude and spend a lot of time in
> front of my computer.
> 
> Things seem to be coming along nicely for the v5 stable release and it
> appears that all of the critical bugs have been fixed.  Hopefully no new
> critical bugs will surface between now and release time and we can get
> some good testing on the critical bugs that were recently fixed.  I
> would *really* like to get the stable release out before I go on
> vacation during the week of July 4th.  Are there any known issues that
> anyone can think of that would prevent this from happening?  If so,
> please speak up.  If not, let's try to shoot for a June 29th release
> date.
> 
> Thank you to everyone for your hard work.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Wayne
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2018-06-12 Thread Steven A. Falco

@lkundrak, the Fedora KiCad package admin, should pick up my -rc2 changes very 
soon - they will go into Fedora Rawhide.

So we should be well positioned for a stable release to appear there soon after 
everything is tagged for the official 5.0.0 release.

Steve

On 06/12/2018 10:18 AM, John Beard wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> Great news!
> 
> I have one suggestion for a currently-un-milestoned bug that I'd (partly 
> selfishly) really like to see fixed for v5: 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1518694
> 
> This is the one where you can't shift posture when routing to a pad in the 
> PNS router. It's certainly not a critical bug, and can be worked around by 
> routing "backwards". However, if it's an easy fix (I'm trying to find it, but 
> I don't know anything about the router code, so I have so far only managed to 
> add a ton of trace and confuse myself), it would be shame IMO to leave it in 
> for release. It's something that pretty much all users of the PNS router 
> would run into almost as soon as they try to use it. If it's a harder fix or 
> introduces unacceptably risky changes to the router, then it can wait.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Wayne Stambaugh  > wrote:
> 
> I apologize for being absent the last few days but I had out of town
> guests visiting and I didn't want to be rude and spend a lot of time in
> front of my computer.
> 
> Things seem to be coming along nicely for the v5 stable release and it
> appears that all of the critical bugs have been fixed.  Hopefully no new
> critical bugs will surface between now and release time and we can get
> some good testing on the critical bugs that were recently fixed.  I
> would *really* like to get the stable release out before I go on
> vacation during the week of July 4th.  Are there any known issues that
> anyone can think of that would prevent this from happening?  If so,
> please speak up.  If not, let's try to shoot for a June 29th release date.
> 
> Thank you to everyone for your hard work.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Wayne
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2018-06-12 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

On 6/12/2018 10:18 AM, John Beard wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> Great news!
> 
> I have one suggestion for a currently-un-milestoned bug that I'd (partly
> selfishly) really like to see fixed for v5:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1518694
> 
> This is the one where you can't shift posture when routing to a pad in
> the PNS router. It's certainly not a critical bug, and can be worked
> around by routing "backwards". However, if it's an easy fix (I'm trying
> to find it, but I don't know anything about the router code, so I have
> so far only managed to add a ton of trace and confuse myself), it would
> be shame IMO to leave it in for release. It's something that pretty much
> all users of the PNS router would run into almost as soon as they try to
> use it. If it's a harder fix or introduces unacceptably risky changes to
> the router, then it can wait.

I'm not opposed to this as long as the risk of adding new bugs to the
P router is low.  If not, I would rather wait until the first v5 point
release.  @Tom or @Orson, do you have any input on this?

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Wayne Stambaugh  > wrote:
> 
> I apologize for being absent the last few days but I had out of town
> guests visiting and I didn't want to be rude and spend a lot of time in
> front of my computer.
> 
> Things seem to be coming along nicely for the v5 stable release and it
> appears that all of the critical bugs have been fixed.  Hopefully no new
> critical bugs will surface between now and release time and we can get
> some good testing on the critical bugs that were recently fixed.  I
> would *really* like to get the stable release out before I go on
> vacation during the week of July 4th.  Are there any known issues that
> anyone can think of that would prevent this from happening?  If so,
> please speak up.  If not, let's try to shoot for a June 29th release
> date.
> 
> Thank you to everyone for your hard work.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Wayne
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2018-06-12 Thread John Beard

Hi Wayne,

Great news!

I have one suggestion for a currently-un-milestoned bug that I'd (partly
selfishly) really like to see fixed for v5:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1518694

This is the one where you can't shift posture when routing to a pad in the
PNS router. It's certainly not a critical bug, and can be worked around by
routing "backwards". However, if it's an easy fix (I'm trying to find it,
but I don't know anything about the router code, so I have so far only
managed to add a ton of trace and confuse myself), it would be shame IMO to
leave it in for release. It's something that pretty much all users of the
PNS router would run into almost as soon as they try to use it. If it's a
harder fix or introduces unacceptably risky changes to the router, then it
can wait.

Cheers,

John

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Wayne Stambaugh 
wrote:

> I apologize for being absent the last few days but I had out of town
> guests visiting and I didn't want to be rude and spend a lot of time in
> front of my computer.
>
> Things seem to be coming along nicely for the v5 stable release and it
> appears that all of the critical bugs have been fixed.  Hopefully no new
> critical bugs will surface between now and release time and we can get
> some good testing on the critical bugs that were recently fixed.  I
> would *really* like to get the stable release out before I go on
> vacation during the week of July 4th.  Are there any known issues that
> anyone can think of that would prevent this from happening?  If so,
> please speak up.  If not, let's try to shoot for a June 29th release date.
>
> Thank you to everyone for your hard work.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2018-06-12 Thread Adam Wolf

I should be able to get the Mac packaging release-candidate ready by
the middle of next week, which gives us more than a week of testing of
that version.  I already have folks testing on it now.

Adam
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:57 AM Wayne Stambaugh  wrote:
>
> I apologize for being absent the last few days but I had out of town
> guests visiting and I didn't want to be rude and spend a lot of time in
> front of my computer.
>
> Things seem to be coming along nicely for the v5 stable release and it
> appears that all of the critical bugs have been fixed.  Hopefully no new
> critical bugs will surface between now and release time and we can get
> some good testing on the critical bugs that were recently fixed.  I
> would *really* like to get the stable release out before I go on
> vacation during the week of July 4th.  Are there any known issues that
> anyone can think of that would prevent this from happening?  If so,
> please speak up.  If not, let's try to shoot for a June 29th release date.
>
> Thank you to everyone for your hard work.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2016-08-07 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

This will have to wait until 4.0.4.  Hopefully someone can find the time
to work on it.

On 8/7/2016 4:50 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> Considering that there are no solution choosen for this issue nor even
> a patch, I don't think we should block the 4.0.3 release becasue of
> this issue. Changes to DRC should be taken with care, and I would
> rather like a potential fix to be tested a bit more than is possible
> in a few days timeframe.
> 
> 2016-08-07 8:47 GMT+02:00 Eldar Khayrullin :
>> What about this bug:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1593373
>> I don't know it is right to set Importance of this bug to Low.
>> I think it Importance should be High and this bug should be fixed before
>> Release (I think maybe I'm wrong)
>>
>> В Воскресенье, 7 авг. 2016 в 1:58 , Wayne Stambaugh 
>> написал:
>>
>> On 8/6/2016 6:17 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>>
>> I think you can make the release tar of the source now on launchpad.
>>
>> I've got it ready to go. I will go ahead an release it tomorrow. Anyone have
>> an issue with this? Package devs please note I had to re-tag 4.0.3 to r6302
>> so if you built 4.0.3 prior to this revision, please rebuild to the correct
>> version. Sorry, there was a flurry of last minute bug fixes that effected
>> the stable branch.
>>
>> I only need the update from the german translator for the kicad-i18n, the
>> docs and libs have been tagged and uploaded now.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Then I will trigger a stable build as a release candidate in testing for a
>> sanity check. Poke Adam (OSX) and JS-reynaud (ubuntu PPA) if they can do
>> that too and we can publish the release note on the website.
>>
>> I already have the announcement in my kicad-website-dev repo so I will do a
>> pull request and merge (I think I have admin rights to the website repo) the
>> announcement.
>>
>> 2016-08-04 19:15 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
>>
>> Thanks for the update. Let me know if I need to push the release back to
>> Monday. On 8/4/2016 11:44 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>>
>> FYI Everyhting should probably line up now. I am just waiting for a german
>> translator to bring the german GUI translations to 100%, he said he could
>> probably do that during the weekend. And then awaiting the librarians tag
>> the libs and make sure we do not remove pretties that was existing before. I
>> expect this to be done during the weekend nor at latest monday. 2016-08-01
>> 14:21 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
>>
>> I'm just checking in to make sure we are good to go with the upcoming 4.0.3
>> stable release. I will plan on announcing the release and creating the
>> source archive this weekend unless there is something holding it up. Please
>> let me know if there are any issues. Otherwise, expect a new stable release
>> this weekend. Thank you everyone for your efforts to make this possible.
>> Cheers, Wayne ___ Mailing list:
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2016-08-07 Thread Chris Pavlina

Agreed. Given the nature of this issue it's not going to be fixed for
quite some time I think. It's silly to hold back the release for a very
long time because of it.

On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 10:50:02AM +0200, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> Considering that there are no solution choosen for this issue nor even
> a patch, I don't think we should block the 4.0.3 release becasue of
> this issue. Changes to DRC should be taken with care, and I would
> rather like a potential fix to be tested a bit more than is possible
> in a few days timeframe.
> 
> 2016-08-07 8:47 GMT+02:00 Eldar Khayrullin :
> > What about this bug:
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1593373
> > I don't know it is right to set Importance of this bug to Low.
> > I think it Importance should be High and this bug should be fixed before
> > Release (I think maybe I'm wrong)
> >
> > В Воскресенье, 7 авг. 2016 в 1:58 , Wayne Stambaugh 
> > написал:
> >
> > On 8/6/2016 6:17 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> >
> > I think you can make the release tar of the source now on launchpad.
> >
> > I've got it ready to go. I will go ahead an release it tomorrow. Anyone have
> > an issue with this? Package devs please note I had to re-tag 4.0.3 to r6302
> > so if you built 4.0.3 prior to this revision, please rebuild to the correct
> > version. Sorry, there was a flurry of last minute bug fixes that effected
> > the stable branch.
> >
> > I only need the update from the german translator for the kicad-i18n, the
> > docs and libs have been tagged and uploaded now.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Then I will trigger a stable build as a release candidate in testing for a
> > sanity check. Poke Adam (OSX) and JS-reynaud (ubuntu PPA) if they can do
> > that too and we can publish the release note on the website.
> >
> > I already have the announcement in my kicad-website-dev repo so I will do a
> > pull request and merge (I think I have admin rights to the website repo) the
> > announcement.
> >
> > 2016-08-04 19:15 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
> >
> > Thanks for the update. Let me know if I need to push the release back to
> > Monday. On 8/4/2016 11:44 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> >
> > FYI Everyhting should probably line up now. I am just waiting for a german
> > translator to bring the german GUI translations to 100%, he said he could
> > probably do that during the weekend. And then awaiting the librarians tag
> > the libs and make sure we do not remove pretties that was existing before. I
> > expect this to be done during the weekend nor at latest monday. 2016-08-01
> > 14:21 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
> >
> > I'm just checking in to make sure we are good to go with the upcoming 4.0.3
> > stable release. I will plan on announcing the release and creating the
> > source archive this weekend unless there is something holding it up. Please
> > let me know if there are any issues. Otherwise, expect a new stable release
> > this weekend. Thank you everyone for your efforts to make this possible.
> > Cheers, Wayne ___ Mailing list:
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2016-08-07 Thread Nick Østergaard

Considering that there are no solution choosen for this issue nor even
a patch, I don't think we should block the 4.0.3 release becasue of
this issue. Changes to DRC should be taken with care, and I would
rather like a potential fix to be tested a bit more than is possible
in a few days timeframe.

2016-08-07 8:47 GMT+02:00 Eldar Khayrullin :
> What about this bug:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1593373
> I don't know it is right to set Importance of this bug to Low.
> I think it Importance should be High and this bug should be fixed before
> Release (I think maybe I'm wrong)
>
> В Воскресенье, 7 авг. 2016 в 1:58 , Wayne Stambaugh 
> написал:
>
> On 8/6/2016 6:17 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>
> I think you can make the release tar of the source now on launchpad.
>
> I've got it ready to go. I will go ahead an release it tomorrow. Anyone have
> an issue with this? Package devs please note I had to re-tag 4.0.3 to r6302
> so if you built 4.0.3 prior to this revision, please rebuild to the correct
> version. Sorry, there was a flurry of last minute bug fixes that effected
> the stable branch.
>
> I only need the update from the german translator for the kicad-i18n, the
> docs and libs have been tagged and uploaded now.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Then I will trigger a stable build as a release candidate in testing for a
> sanity check. Poke Adam (OSX) and JS-reynaud (ubuntu PPA) if they can do
> that too and we can publish the release note on the website.
>
> I already have the announcement in my kicad-website-dev repo so I will do a
> pull request and merge (I think I have admin rights to the website repo) the
> announcement.
>
> 2016-08-04 19:15 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
>
> Thanks for the update. Let me know if I need to push the release back to
> Monday. On 8/4/2016 11:44 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>
> FYI Everyhting should probably line up now. I am just waiting for a german
> translator to bring the german GUI translations to 100%, he said he could
> probably do that during the weekend. And then awaiting the librarians tag
> the libs and make sure we do not remove pretties that was existing before. I
> expect this to be done during the weekend nor at latest monday. 2016-08-01
> 14:21 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
>
> I'm just checking in to make sure we are good to go with the upcoming 4.0.3
> stable release. I will plan on announcing the release and creating the
> source archive this weekend unless there is something holding it up. Please
> let me know if there are any issues. Otherwise, expect a new stable release
> this weekend. Thank you everyone for your efforts to make this possible.
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2016-08-07 Thread Eldar Khayrullin


What about this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1593373
I don't know it is right to set Importance of this bug to Low.
I think it Importance should be High and this bug should be fixed 
before Release (I think maybe I'm wrong)


В Воскресенье, 7 авг. 2016 в 1:58 , Wayne Stambaugh 
 написал:

On 8/6/2016 6:17 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:

 I think you can make the release tar of the source now on launchpad.


I've got it ready to go.  I will go ahead an release it tomorrow.
Anyone have an issue with this?  Package devs please note I had to
re-tag 4.0.3 to r6302 so if you built 4.0.3 prior to this revision,
please rebuild to the correct version.  Sorry, there was a flurry of
last minute bug fixes that effected the stable branch.



 I only need the update from the german translator for the 
kicad-i18n,

 the docs and libs have been tagged and uploaded now.


Thanks!



 Then I will trigger a stable build as a release candidate in testing
 for a sanity check. Poke Adam (OSX) and JS-reynaud (ubuntu PPA) if
 they can do that too and we can publish the release note on the
 website.


I already have the announcement in my kicad-website-dev repo so I will
do a pull request and merge (I think I have admin rights to the 
website

repo) the announcement.



 2016-08-04 19:15 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
 Thanks for the update.  Let me know if I need to push the release 
back

 to Monday.

 On 8/4/2016 11:44 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:

 FYI

 Everyhting should probably line up now. I am just waiting for a 
german
 translator to bring the german GUI translations to 100%, he said 
he

 could probably do that during the weekend.

 And then awaiting the librarians tag the libs and make sure we do 
not

 remove pretties that was existing before. I expect this to be done
 during the weekend nor at latest monday.

 2016-08-01 14:21 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
 I'm just checking in to make sure we are good to go with the 
upcoming

 4.0.3 stable release.  I will plan on announcing the release and
 creating the source archive this weekend unless there is 
something
 holding it up.  Please let me know if there are any issues.  
Otherwise,
 expect a new stable release this weekend.  Thank you everyone 
for your

 efforts to make this possible.

 Cheers,

 Wayne

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2016-08-06 Thread Nick Østergaard

Please note that you write that it does not contain a new snapshot of
the docs or libs, this is not the case. There is a new snapshot of the
docs, the stable banch supposed to match the stable kicad. It is
mostly improved translations.

Also the libs are updated. :)

2016-08-07 0:58 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
> On 8/6/2016 6:17 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>> I think you can make the release tar of the source now on launchpad.
>
> I've got it ready to go.  I will go ahead an release it tomorrow.
> Anyone have an issue with this?  Package devs please note I had to
> re-tag 4.0.3 to r6302 so if you built 4.0.3 prior to this revision,
> please rebuild to the correct version.  Sorry, there was a flurry of
> last minute bug fixes that effected the stable branch.
>
>>
>> I only need the update from the german translator for the kicad-i18n,
>> the docs and libs have been tagged and uploaded now.
>
> Thanks!
>
>>
>> Then I will trigger a stable build as a release candidate in testing
>> for a sanity check. Poke Adam (OSX) and JS-reynaud (ubuntu PPA) if
>> they can do that too and we can publish the release note on the
>> website.
>
> I already have the announcement in my kicad-website-dev repo so I will
> do a pull request and merge (I think I have admin rights to the website
> repo) the announcement.
>
>>
>> 2016-08-04 19:15 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
>>> Thanks for the update.  Let me know if I need to push the release back
>>> to Monday.
>>>
>>> On 8/4/2016 11:44 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
 FYI

 Everyhting should probably line up now. I am just waiting for a german
 translator to bring the german GUI translations to 100%, he said he
 could probably do that during the weekend.

 And then awaiting the librarians tag the libs and make sure we do not
 remove pretties that was existing before. I expect this to be done
 during the weekend nor at latest monday.

 2016-08-01 14:21 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
> I'm just checking in to make sure we are good to go with the upcoming
> 4.0.3 stable release.  I will plan on announcing the release and
> creating the source archive this weekend unless there is something
> holding it up.  Please let me know if there are any issues.  Otherwise,
> expect a new stable release this weekend.  Thank you everyone for your
> efforts to make this possible.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2016-08-06 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

On 8/6/2016 6:17 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> I think you can make the release tar of the source now on launchpad.

I've got it ready to go.  I will go ahead an release it tomorrow.
Anyone have an issue with this?  Package devs please note I had to
re-tag 4.0.3 to r6302 so if you built 4.0.3 prior to this revision,
please rebuild to the correct version.  Sorry, there was a flurry of
last minute bug fixes that effected the stable branch.

> 
> I only need the update from the german translator for the kicad-i18n,
> the docs and libs have been tagged and uploaded now.

Thanks!

> 
> Then I will trigger a stable build as a release candidate in testing
> for a sanity check. Poke Adam (OSX) and JS-reynaud (ubuntu PPA) if
> they can do that too and we can publish the release note on the
> website.

I already have the announcement in my kicad-website-dev repo so I will
do a pull request and merge (I think I have admin rights to the website
repo) the announcement.

> 
> 2016-08-04 19:15 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
>> Thanks for the update.  Let me know if I need to push the release back
>> to Monday.
>>
>> On 8/4/2016 11:44 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>>> FYI
>>>
>>> Everyhting should probably line up now. I am just waiting for a german
>>> translator to bring the german GUI translations to 100%, he said he
>>> could probably do that during the weekend.
>>>
>>> And then awaiting the librarians tag the libs and make sure we do not
>>> remove pretties that was existing before. I expect this to be done
>>> during the weekend nor at latest monday.
>>>
>>> 2016-08-01 14:21 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh :
 I'm just checking in to make sure we are good to go with the upcoming
 4.0.3 stable release.  I will plan on announcing the release and
 creating the source archive this weekend unless there is something
 holding it up.  Please let me know if there are any issues.  Otherwise,
 expect a new stable release this weekend.  Thank you everyone for your
 efforts to make this possible.

 Cheers,

 Wayne

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-28 Thread Nick Østergaard

I vote for tagging, I don't think we will have much use of branching the
libs. When they are tagged on all repos we can easily fetch a consistent
package, and we can provide that as a download for those who wants that. I
can tag them if you want.
Den 28/11/2015 01.08 skrev "Carl Poirier" :

> So what was the decision for tying the libraries to the release? Tagging
> or branching? Who's managing it?
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Carl Poirier 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is just to warn you that the fp-lib-tables have been updated and the
>> deprecated pretty repos have been removed.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a peer reviewer to do a spot-check for the 50mils
>> field text size update.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That was quick.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> On 11/17/2015 8:58 AM, Marco Ciampa wrote:
>>> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 08:35:41AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>>> >> Would you please make "KiCad Stable Release Policy" and
>>> >> link to
>>> >>
>>> http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_stable-release-policy.html
>>> >> when you get a chance?
>>> >
>>> > Done.
>>> >
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-28 Thread Carl Poirier

I'll let you manage it on KiCad's side and I'll take care of tagging.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Nick Østergaard  wrote:

> I vote for tagging, I don't think we will have much use of branching the
> libs. When they are tagged on all repos we can easily fetch a consistent
> package, and we can provide that as a download for those who wants that. I
> can tag them if you want.
> Den 28/11/2015 01.08 skrev "Carl Poirier" :
>
>> So what was the decision for tying the libraries to the release? Tagging
>> or branching? Who's managing it?
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Carl Poirier 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is just to warn you that the fp-lib-tables have been updated and
>>> the deprecated pretty repos have been removed.
>>>
>>> I'm still waiting for a peer reviewer to do a spot-check for the 50mils
>>> field text size update.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That was quick.  Thanks.

 On 11/17/2015 8:58 AM, Marco Ciampa wrote:
 > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 08:35:41AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
 >> Would you please make "KiCad Stable Release Policy" and
 >> link to
 >>
 http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_stable-release-policy.html
 >> when you get a chance?
 >
 > Done.
 >

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-28 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

I would tag them.  User's who get their footprints via the github plugin
are going to get the latest and greatest.  This would only impact
packages that distribute the footprint libraries.  Same goes for the
symbols and 3D model libraries.  We may want to create a 4.0 archive of
the symbol and 3D model libraries for package builders to download.

On 11/28/2015 9:13 AM, Carl Poirier wrote:
> I'll let you manage it on KiCad's side and I'll take care of tagging. 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Nick Østergaard  > wrote:
> 
> I vote for tagging, I don't think we will have much use of branching
> the libs. When they are tagged on all repos we can easily fetch a
> consistent package, and we can provide that as a download for those
> who wants that. I can tag them if you want.
> 
> Den 28/11/2015 01.08 skrev "Carl Poirier"  >:
> 
> So what was the decision for tying the libraries to the release?
> Tagging or branching? Who's managing it?
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Carl Poirier
> > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is just to warn you that the fp-lib-tables have been
> updated and the deprecated pretty repos have been removed.
> 
> I'm still waiting for a peer reviewer to do a spot-check for
> the 50mils field text size update.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Carl 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh
> > wrote:
> 
> That was quick.  Thanks.
> 
> On 11/17/2015 8:58 AM, Marco Ciampa wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 08:35:41AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh 
> wrote:
> >> Would you please make "KiCad Stable Release Policy" and
> >> link to
> >> 
> http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_stable-release-policy.html
> >> when you get a chance?
> >
> > Done.
> >
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-27 Thread Carl Poirier

So what was the decision for tying the libraries to the release? Tagging or
branching? Who's managing it?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Carl Poirier 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is just to warn you that the fp-lib-tables have been updated and the
> deprecated pretty repos have been removed.
>
> I'm still waiting for a peer reviewer to do a spot-check for the 50mils
> field text size update.
>
> Regards,
>
> Carl
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Wayne Stambaugh 
> wrote:
>
>> That was quick.  Thanks.
>>
>> On 11/17/2015 8:58 AM, Marco Ciampa wrote:
>> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 08:35:41AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>> >> Would you please make "KiCad Stable Release Policy" and
>> >> link to
>> >>
>> http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_stable-release-policy.html
>> >> when you get a chance?
>> >
>> > Done.
>> >
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-17 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

On 11/17/2015 5:03 AM, Marco Ciampa wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 09:44:19AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>> Technically this will always be true.  The nightly builds will have the
>> new features not in the stable release per our stable release policy[1].
>> Immediately after a stable release there wont be much different between
>> the stable release and the development branch.  As time goes on, this
>> will be less and less so.  This statement should probably be more generic:
>>
>> Note:  KiCad stable releases occur periodically per the "KiCad Stable
>> Release Policy".  New features are continually being added to the
>> development branch.  If you would like to take advantage of these new
>> features and help out by testing them, please download the latest
>> nightly build package for your platform.  Nightly builds may introduce
>> bugs but it is the goal of the KiCad Development Team to keep the
>> development branch as usable as possible during new feature development.
>>
>> Please include the links to the stable release policy and the nightly
>> build page.
> 
> Done, please comment. See results when CI build will finish:
> 
> http://docs.kicad-pcb.org/en/getting_started_in_kicad.html
> 

Looks good.  Would you please make "KiCad Stable Release Policy" and
link to
http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_stable-release-policy.html
when you get a chance?

Thanks,

Wayne

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-17 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

@timofonic

I would like to add your name to the translators list for your work on
the Spanish translations but I need a name.  I would rather not use
timofonic as the contributor name.

Thanks,

Wayne

On 11/17/2015 9:01 AM, timofonic timofonic wrote:
> Wow!
> 
> Is KiCad 4.0 final release going soon? Damn, I'm very busy with studies
> but I would love there's a complete Spanish translation on it!
> 
> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015, Marco Ciampa  > wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 08:35:41AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> > Would you please make "KiCad Stable Release Policy" and
> > link to
> >
> 
> http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_stable-release-policy.html
> > when you get a chance?
> 
> Done.
> 
> --
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-17 Thread Marco Ciampa

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 08:35:41AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> Would you please make "KiCad Stable Release Policy" and
> link to
> http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_stable-release-policy.html
> when you get a chance?

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-17 Thread timofonic timofonic

Wow!

Is KiCad 4.0 final release going soon? Damn, I'm very busy with studies but
I would love there's a complete Spanish translation on it!

On Tuesday, November 17, 2015, Marco Ciampa  wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 08:35:41AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> > Would you please make "KiCad Stable Release Policy" and
> > link to
> >
> http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_stable-release-policy.html
> > when you get a chance?
>
> Done.
>
> --
>
>
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>
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>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-17 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

That was quick.  Thanks.

On 11/17/2015 8:58 AM, Marco Ciampa wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 08:35:41AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>> Would you please make "KiCad Stable Release Policy" and
>> link to
>> http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_stable-release-policy.html
>> when you get a chance?
> 
> Done.
> 

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-17 Thread Marco Ciampa

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 09:44:19AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> Technically this will always be true.  The nightly builds will have the
> new features not in the stable release per our stable release policy[1].
> Immediately after a stable release there wont be much different between
> the stable release and the development branch.  As time goes on, this
> will be less and less so.  This statement should probably be more generic:
> 
> Note:  KiCad stable releases occur periodically per the "KiCad Stable
> Release Policy".  New features are continually being added to the
> development branch.  If you would like to take advantage of these new
> features and help out by testing them, please download the latest
> nightly build package for your platform.  Nightly builds may introduce
> bugs but it is the goal of the KiCad Development Team to keep the
> development branch as usable as possible during new feature development.
> 
> Please include the links to the stable release policy and the nightly
> build page.

Done, please comment. See results when CI build will finish:

http://docs.kicad-pcb.org/en/getting_started_in_kicad.html

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-16 Thread nnn4000

The fp-lib-table is mostly consistent with libraries on github but some of the 
libraries are going to be removed (I asked Carl some time ago and he said he's 
going to remove them before stable release).
The list I suggested:
Capacitors_Elko_ThroughHole.prettyHousings_SOT.prettyHousings_SOT-23_SOT-143_TSOT-6.prettyHousings_SOT-89.prettyHousings_TO-12_TO-18_TO-42_TO-43.prettyHousings_TO-50.prettyHousings_TO-78.prettyHousings_TO-92.prettyTransistors_SMD.prettyTransistors_TO-220.prettyTransistors_TO-247.prettyPower_Packages_SMD.prettyPower_Packages_ThroughHole.pretty
Pentawatts.prettyHousings_ROHM.pretty
Sockets_PGA.prettyMuonde.prettyPrinttrafo_CHK.prettyCrystals_Oscillators_SMD.prettyOscillator-Modules.pretty
Dnia 16 listopada 2015 16:49 Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com 
napisał(a):
I'm being lazy which is why I asked for fp-lib-table.for-github to be
kept up to date. I have several custom fp-lib-tables that I use for
testing purposes. This is one of them. When I want to test the latest
github footprint library changes, I would rather not have regenerate it
every time with the fp-lib-table wizard to make sure I have the latest
and greatest fp-lib-table. For normal users, this probably isn't needed
but developers may find this useful. At least this developer finds it
useful. It really shouldn't be that difficult to maintain. I haven't
looked lately but have we added or removed that many footprint library
repos since we started maintaining them on github?
On 11/16/2015 9:08 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
 Why do we need this file for github, when a new one can be created with
 the new footprint library tables wizard?

 If you package a stable package, where only the footprints are able to
 be fetched "dynamically" it makes no sense. IMHO they should be
 packaged by the packagers statically. Because the sch symbols are so
 (and 3D models). Feel free to oppose my suggestion.

 Den 16/11/2015 14.14 skrev "Wayne Stambaugh" stambau...@gmail.com
 mailto:stambau...@gmail.com:

 Please update fp-lib-table.for-github. Remove any libraries that have
 been removed and add any new libraries. We should be keeping this up to
 date as we change the libraries on github.

 Thanks,

 Wayne

 On 11/16/2015 7:17 AM, nnn wrote:
  Will fp-lib-table.for-github be provided as default fp-lib-table?
 It can
  be built by users with wizard (so maybe it's not necessary?) but if it
  will be provided it requires some cleanup. I can make pull request to
  remove some outdated libraries from fp-lib-table.
 
 
  W dniu 16.11.2015 o 00:55, Wayne Stambaugh pisze:
  Fingers crossed but the rc2 noise has been fairly low so if no
 critical
  bugs are reported between now and Thanksgiving weekend, I'll roll 
out
  the stable release sometime that weekend. If you have any last
 minute
  bug fixes, documentation changes, or library improvements to
 make, now
  is the time. I'll give everyone a 24hr notice before I tag the
 source,
  doc, library, and translation repos with 4.0.0 when I roll out the
  release. From there we can branch if the need be. Hopefully one of
  things we will have to be thankful for this Thanksgiving holiday 
is a
  new KiCad stable release.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Wayne
 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-16 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

I'm being lazy which is why I asked for fp-lib-table.for-github to be
kept up to date.  I have several custom fp-lib-tables that I use for
testing purposes.  This is one of them.  When I want to test the latest
github footprint library changes, I would rather not have regenerate it
every time with the fp-lib-table wizard to make sure I have the latest
and greatest fp-lib-table.  For normal users, this probably isn't needed
but developers may find this useful.  At least this developer finds it
useful.  It really shouldn't be that difficult to maintain.  I haven't
looked lately but have we added or removed that many footprint library
repos since we started maintaining them on github?

On 11/16/2015 9:08 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> Why do we need this file for github, when a new one can be created with
> the new footprint library tables wizard?
> 
> If you package a stable package, where only the footprints are able to
> be fetched "dynamically"  it makes no sense. IMHO they should be
> packaged by the packagers statically. Because the sch symbols are so
> (and 3D models). Feel free to oppose my suggestion.
> 
> Den 16/11/2015 14.14 skrev "Wayne Stambaugh"  >:
> 
> Please update fp-lib-table.for-github.  Remove any libraries that have
> been removed and add any new libraries.  We should be keeping this up to
> date as we change the libraries on github.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 11/16/2015 7:17 AM, nnn wrote:
> > Will fp-lib-table.for-github be provided as default fp-lib-table?
> It can
> > be built by users with wizard (so maybe it's not necessary?) but if it
> > will be provided it requires some cleanup. I can make pull request to
> > remove some outdated libraries from fp-lib-table.
> >
> >
> > W dniu 16.11.2015 o 00:55, Wayne Stambaugh pisze:
> >> Fingers crossed but the rc2 noise has been fairly low so if no
> critical
> >> bugs are reported between now and Thanksgiving weekend, I'll roll out
> >> the stable release sometime that weekend.  If you have any last
> minute
> >> bug fixes, documentation changes, or library improvements to
> make, now
> >> is the time.  I'll give everyone a 24hr notice before I tag the
> source,
> >> doc, library, and translation repos with 4.0.0 when I roll out the
> >> release.  From there we can branch if the need be.  Hopefully one of
> >> things we will have to be thankful for this Thanksgiving holiday is a
> >> new KiCad stable release.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Wayne
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-16 Thread Eldar Khayrullin


Hello.
I have included patch that update RU translator list.
diff --git a/AUTHORS.txt b/AUTHORS.txt
index eda3e16..c20122f 100644
--- a/AUTHORS.txt
+++ b/AUTHORS.txt
@@ -49,6 +49,7 @@ Polish (PL) Kerusey Karyu 
 Portuguese (PT) Renie Marquet "
 Russian (RU) Igor Plyatov 
 Russian (RU) Andrey Fedorushkov 
+Russian (RU) Eldar Khayrullin 
 Spanish (ES) Pedro Martin del Valle 
 Spanish (ES) IÃ±igo Zuluaga 
 German (DE) Rafael Sokolowski

Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-16 Thread Adam Wolf

This is what we do on OS X.  I download a copy of the github libraries, put
it in the "extras" bundle, and include an fp table lib for it.

Adam Wolf

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Nick Østergaard  wrote:

> Why do we need this file for github, when a new one can be created with
> the new footprint library tables wizard?
>
> If you package a stable package, where only the footprints are able to be
> fetched "dynamically"  it makes no sense. IMHO they should be packaged by
> the packagers statically. Because the sch symbols are so (and 3D models).
> Feel free to oppose my suggestion.
> Den 16/11/2015 14.14 skrev "Wayne Stambaugh" :
>
>> Please update fp-lib-table.for-github.  Remove any libraries that have
>> been removed and add any new libraries.  We should be keeping this up to
>> date as we change the libraries on github.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 11/16/2015 7:17 AM, nnn wrote:
>> > Will fp-lib-table.for-github be provided as default fp-lib-table? It can
>> > be built by users with wizard (so maybe it's not necessary?) but if it
>> > will be provided it requires some cleanup. I can make pull request to
>> > remove some outdated libraries from fp-lib-table.
>> >
>> >
>> > W dniu 16.11.2015 o 00:55, Wayne Stambaugh pisze:
>> >> Fingers crossed but the rc2 noise has been fairly low so if no critical
>> >> bugs are reported between now and Thanksgiving weekend, I'll roll out
>> >> the stable release sometime that weekend.  If you have any last minute
>> >> bug fixes, documentation changes, or library improvements to make, now
>> >> is the time.  I'll give everyone a 24hr notice before I tag the source,
>> >> doc, library, and translation repos with 4.0.0 when I roll out the
>> >> release.  From there we can branch if the need be.  Hopefully one of
>> >> things we will have to be thankful for this Thanksgiving holiday is a
>> >> new KiCad stable release.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Wayne
>> >>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-16 Thread Nick Østergaard

Why do we need this file for github, when a new one can be created with the
new footprint library tables wizard?

If you package a stable package, where only the footprints are able to be
fetched "dynamically"  it makes no sense. IMHO they should be packaged by
the packagers statically. Because the sch symbols are so (and 3D models).
Feel free to oppose my suggestion.
Den 16/11/2015 14.14 skrev "Wayne Stambaugh" :

> Please update fp-lib-table.for-github.  Remove any libraries that have
> been removed and add any new libraries.  We should be keeping this up to
> date as we change the libraries on github.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wayne
>
> On 11/16/2015 7:17 AM, nnn wrote:
> > Will fp-lib-table.for-github be provided as default fp-lib-table? It can
> > be built by users with wizard (so maybe it's not necessary?) but if it
> > will be provided it requires some cleanup. I can make pull request to
> > remove some outdated libraries from fp-lib-table.
> >
> >
> > W dniu 16.11.2015 o 00:55, Wayne Stambaugh pisze:
> >> Fingers crossed but the rc2 noise has been fairly low so if no critical
> >> bugs are reported between now and Thanksgiving weekend, I'll roll out
> >> the stable release sometime that weekend.  If you have any last minute
> >> bug fixes, documentation changes, or library improvements to make, now
> >> is the time.  I'll give everyone a 24hr notice before I tag the source,
> >> doc, library, and translation repos with 4.0.0 when I roll out the
> >> release.  From there we can branch if the need be.  Hopefully one of
> >> things we will have to be thankful for this Thanksgiving holiday is a
> >> new KiCad stable release.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-16 Thread Carl Poirier

Thanks for the reminder Michal. We'll do that as well.

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> Hello.
> I have included patch that update RU translator list.
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-15 Thread Carl Poirier

Isn't thanksgiving in 11 months from now?

Before then, with this
 I'll be setting all
the symbol libraries field text sizes to 50mils.

Carl

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wrote:

> Fingers crossed but the rc2 noise has been fairly low so if no critical
> bugs are reported between now and Thanksgiving weekend, I'll roll out
> the stable release sometime that weekend.  If you have any last minute
> bug fixes, documentation changes, or library improvements to make, now
> is the time.  I'll give everyone a 24hr notice before I tag the source,
> doc, library, and translation repos with 4.0.0 when I roll out the
> release.  From there we can branch if the need be.  Hopefully one of
> things we will have to be thankful for this Thanksgiving holiday is a
> new KiCad stable release.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-15 Thread Adam Wolf

Carl,

Between Canadian Thanksgiving and American Thanksgiving I'll move mine to
the day KiCad 4.0.0 comes out...

How many symbols does that change, about?

Adam Wolf
Cofounder and Engineer
Wayne and Layne

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Carl Poirier 
wrote:

> Isn't thanksgiving in 11 months from now?
>
> Before then, with this
>  I'll be setting
> all the symbol libraries field text sizes to 50mils.
>
> Carl
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Wayne Stambaugh 
> wrote:
>
>> Fingers crossed but the rc2 noise has been fairly low so if no critical
>> bugs are reported between now and Thanksgiving weekend, I'll roll out
>> the stable release sometime that weekend.  If you have any last minute
>> bug fixes, documentation changes, or library improvements to make, now
>> is the time.  I'll give everyone a 24hr notice before I tag the source,
>> doc, library, and translation repos with 4.0.0 when I roll out the
>> release.  From there we can branch if the need be.  Hopefully one of
>> things we will have to be thankful for this Thanksgiving holiday is a
>> new KiCad stable release.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-15 Thread Carl Poirier

Aah right, Google has guessed I needed the date for the latter more than
the former. :-P

It will be updating quite a good chunk of the symbols maybe up to half of
them, but the only thing changing is the field text size. It does not break
anything.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Adam Wolf 
wrote:

> Carl,
>
> Between Canadian Thanksgiving and American Thanksgiving I'll move mine to
> the day KiCad 4.0.0 comes out...
>
> How many symbols does that change, about?
>
> Adam Wolf
> Cofounder and Engineer
> Wayne and Layne
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Carl Poirier 
> wrote:
>
>> Isn't thanksgiving in 11 months from now?
>>
>> Before then, with this
>>  I'll be setting
>> all the symbol libraries field text sizes to 50mils.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Wayne Stambaugh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Fingers crossed but the rc2 noise has been fairly low so if no critical
>>> bugs are reported between now and Thanksgiving weekend, I'll roll out
>>> the stable release sometime that weekend.  If you have any last minute
>>> bug fixes, documentation changes, or library improvements to make, now
>>> is the time.  I'll give everyone a 24hr notice before I tag the source,
>>> doc, library, and translation repos with 4.0.0 when I roll out the
>>> release.  From there we can branch if the need be.  Hopefully one of
>>> things we will have to be thankful for this Thanksgiving holiday is a
>>> new KiCad stable release.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-15 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

On 11/15/2015 8:09 PM, Carl Poirier wrote:
> Isn't thanksgiving in 11 months from now?

Funny!  I'll clarify that by saying the upcoming US Thanksgiving holiday
weekend.  Although the extra 10.5 months would give me some wiggle room.

> 
> Before then, with this
>  I'll be setting
> all the symbol libraries field text sizes to 50mils.

Yea!  I wont have to go back and change all of the text sizes that
aren't 50mils every time I create a new schematic.  It seems like all of
the op-amp and power symbols have a text size other than 50mils which I
use a lot.  Thanks!

> 
> Carl
> 
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Wayne Stambaugh  > wrote:
> 
> Fingers crossed but the rc2 noise has been fairly low so if no critical
> bugs are reported between now and Thanksgiving weekend, I'll roll out
> the stable release sometime that weekend.  If you have any last minute
> bug fixes, documentation changes, or library improvements to make, now
> is the time.  I'll give everyone a 24hr notice before I tag the source,
> doc, library, and translation repos with 4.0.0 when I roll out the
> release.  From there we can branch if the need be.  Hopefully one of
> things we will have to be thankful for this Thanksgiving holiday is a
> new KiCad stable release.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-11-15 Thread Marco Ciampa

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 06:55:11PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> Fingers crossed but the rc2 noise has been fairly low so if no critical
> bugs are reported between now and Thanksgiving weekend, I'll roll out
> the stable release sometime that weekend.  If you have any last minute
> bug fixes, documentation changes, or library improvements to make, now
> is the time.  I'll give everyone a 24hr notice before I tag the source,
> doc, library, and translation repos with 4.0.0 when I roll out the
> release.  From there we can branch if the need be.  Hopefully one of
> things we will have to be thankful for this Thanksgiving holiday is a
> new KiCad stable release.

Ok, may I delete this:

> Important: The current KiCad stable builds have not been updated
> since 2013. As such they are missing many new features that have been
> added to KiCad. It is suggested that you install the unstable nightly
> builds which occasionally introduce new bugs, but are updated frequently
> and generally stable.

from here:

http://docs.kicad-pcb.org/en/getting_started_in_kicad.html

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-08-04 Thread Carl Poirier

 I'd like this
https://github.com/KiCad/TO_SOT_Packages_SMD.pretty/issues/1 to be
merged. In a few words, it consists of merging some libraries dating back
from pre-github
 era into two cleaner ones: TO_SOT_Packages_SMD.pretty and
TO_SOT_Packages_THT.pretty. Possibly
 also renaming the _ThroughHole suffix to _THT for the other libraries.

Hi,

This is just to let you guys know that this has been merged. The
repositories to be deleted will be kept a while although they are marked as
deprecated. You should see no issue if you wait to update your
kicad-library and fp-lib-table.

Regards,

Carl

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wrote:

 On 6/20/2015 4:21 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 09:14:14PM +0100, David J S Briscoe wrote:
  [snip] I'm afraid I will screw up the files on Github so probably
  better for me to do it the old fashioned way. Who can I send the edited
  files to?
 
  If you do this, someone will have to convert them back to AsciiDoc *by
  hand*. The AsciiDoc is the original source now. You'll have to learn
  git.
 
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 Please do not make any changes to the legacy .odt documentation on
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-06-21 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

On 6/20/2015 2:46 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
2015-06-20 19:57 GMT+02:00 Nick Østergaard oe.n...@gmail.com:

Den 20/06/2015 18.58 skrev Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com:

We are getting closer to the stable release branch. I am on vacation
from June 27th to July 5th so I will be making a big push to create a
stable release candidate branch on Lauchpad some time that week. I will
need some help to make that happen. Here are the main issues:

Bugs:

See

https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bugs?field.searchtext=orderby=-importancesearch=Searchfield.status%3Alist=NEWfield.status%3Alist=CONFIRMEDfield.status%3Alist=TRIAGEDfield.status%3Alist=INPROGRESSfield.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSEfield.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSEfield.importance%3Alist=CRITICALfield.importance%3Alist=HIGHassignee_option=anyfield.assignee=field.bug_reporter=field.bug_commenter=field.subscriber=field.structural_subscriber=field.tag=field.tags_combinator=ANYfield.has_cve.used=field.omit_dupes.used=field.omit_dupes=onfield.affects_me.used=field.has_patch.used=field.has_branches.used=field.has_branches=onfield.has_no_branches.used=field.has_no_branches=onfield.has_blueprints.used=field.has_blueprints=onfield.has_no_blueprints.used=field.has_no_blueprints=on

There are a few bugs in this list that probably shouldn't have a
critical or high severity. I've already commented on bugs that I
believe should have their severity changed. The rest need to be
addressed before the stable branch occurs. The one that is the most
disconcerting is the symbol library editor bug #1445848. If someone can
come up with a reliable method to reproduce this I would appreciate it.
I also think most of the GAL bugs in this list have already been
addressed. Can someone please confirm?

Documentation:

Yes. Orson put the pns doc in the pcbnew doc and Brian's cmake stuff has
been merged. It can still be improved, but it will build html and pdf now.

Also, some of the grammar in our English documentation could use some
work. If you have the time please fix as much as possible before the
stable release. Every little bit makes a difference.

By the way, with the removal of cvpcb as a standalone exe, what should
we do about the document describing it? Should it be compressed a bit
more and put into the eeschema doc somehow?

The CvPcb documentation should at least be linked somewhere in the
Eeschema documentation if we don't want to merge it into the Eeschema
documentation. There may be some advantages to leaving it as a separate
document. In the future we may want to leverage CvPcb to assign
footprints in Pcbnew as well.

You can view its current form on http://docs.kicad-pcb.org/CvPcb/CvPcb.html

Libraries:

If there are any last minute changes to the symbol, footprint, and/or 3D
model libraries, now is the time to get that done. We should probably
tag the library repos when we release the stable branch so the packagers
can pull the same libraries if the need be.

Packages:

We will have to provide stable packages for windows, osx, and debian
based distros. Do we have an rpm distro package? If so, that would be
useful as well. I will add the stable source package to Launchpad for
package builders to download. I will also update the msys2/mingw
PKGBUILD file to download the stable source.

Website:

There was a request to update the website with some new images for the
stable release which I think is a good idea. If anyone can make that
happen by the end of July, that would be awesome. It's not a show
stopper but it would be a nice touch.

Stable branch:

Once the bugs above have been addressed, I will create a stable release
branch 4.0.0-rc1 on launchpad. This branch should be used to create
stable packages for testing. I would like a few weeks of calm before
the actual stable release is made to make sure we didn't miss anything.
Once the rc stable branch is created on launchpad, I will still place a
moratorium on new features being added to the product branch in order to
keep the focus on the stable branch until it's released. Once the
stable branch is release is official, I will open up the product branch
for new feature development.

If there is anything I missed, please let me know and thank you to
everyone who has put forth the effort to make this happen.

Cheers,

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2015-06-21 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

On 6/20/2015 4:21 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 09:14:14PM +0100, David J S Briscoe wrote:
 [snip] I'm afraid I will screw up the files on Github so probably
 better for me to do it the old fashioned way. Who can I send the edited
 files to?
 
 If you do this, someone will have to convert them back to AsciiDoc *by 
 hand*. The AsciiDoc is the original source now. You'll have to learn 
 git.
 
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Please do not make any changes to the legacy .odt documentation on
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-06-21 Thread David J S Briscoe


On 20/06/2015 21:41, Martin d'Allens wrote:

Actually with Github you can do all three from your web browser,
following those instructions:
https://help.github.com/articles/editing-files-in-another-user-s-repository/

Try on this document for instance:
https://github.com/ciampix/kicad-doc/blob/master/src/KiCad/KiCad.adoc

Martin

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Chris Pavlina pavlina.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 09:14:14PM +0100, David J S Briscoe wrote:

[snip] I'm afraid I will screw up the files on Github so probably
better for me to do it the old fashioned way. Who can I send the edited
files to?

If you do this, someone will have to convert them back to AsciiDoc *by
hand*. The AsciiDoc is the original source now. You'll have to learn
git.

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Hi,
OK, I'll start today by reviewing and editing the kiCad.adoc document

https://github.com/ciampix/kicad-doc/blob/master/src/KiCad/KiCad.adoc

I'll see how it goes with this first. Thanks.

David.

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-06-21 Thread Nick Østergaard

I can just add a gallery page where we can dump lots and lots of
screenshots, preferably with some kind of annotaiton. It could act
sort of an extension of the made with kicad page.

http://www.kicad-pcb.org/display/KICAD/Made+with+KiCad

2015-06-21 0:06 GMT+02:00 Cirilo Bernardo cirilo.berna...@gmail.com:
Re: web page I'll help with the 3D models for whatever boards are featured.
It seems to me that everyone agrees on HackRF so I'll add VRML models
to that. If there are others that people will vote for I'll add them to my
list.

I think for the IDF feature, the screenshot with the video board showing
both IDF and VRML will be enough. If we add a 'Gallery' page in the future
I can add a few more IDF models.

- Cirilo

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com
wrote:

Bugs:

See

Documentation:

Is the documentation ready to be transferred to
https://github.com/KiCad? If not, what is left to do? At one point I
was waiting on Orson to merge the PS router documentation and Brian to
merge the CMake configuration code. Have both of these been completed?
Also, some of the grammar in our English documentation could use some
work. If you have the time please fix as much as possible before the
stable release. Every little bit makes a difference.

Libraries:

Packages:

Website:

Stable branch:

If there is anything I missed, please let me know and thank you to
everyone who has put forth the effort to make this happen.

Cheers,

Wayne

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2015-06-20 Thread Nick Østergaard

Den 20/06/2015 18.58 skrev Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com:

Bugs:

See

Documentation:

Yes. Orson put the pns doc in the pcbnew doc and Brian's cmake stuff has
been merged. It can still be improved, but it will build html and pdf now.

Also, some of the grammar in our English documentation could use some
work. If you have the time please fix as much as possible before the
stable release. Every little bit makes a difference.

Libraries:

Packages:

Website:

Stable branch:

If there is anything I missed, please let me know and thank you to
everyone who has put forth the effort to make this happen.

Cheers,

Wayne

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-06-20 Thread Nick Østergaard

2015-06-20 19:57 GMT+02:00 Nick Østergaard oe.n...@gmail.com:

Den 20/06/2015 18.58 skrev Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com:

Bugs:

See

Documentation:

Yes. Orson put the pns doc in the pcbnew doc and Brian's cmake stuff has
been merged. It can still be improved, but it will build html and pdf now.

Also, some of the grammar in our English documentation could use some
work. If you have the time please fix as much as possible before the
stable release. Every little bit makes a difference.

By the way, with the removal of cvpcb as a standalone exe, what should
we do about the document describing it? Should it be compressed a bit
more and put into the eeschema doc somehow?

You can view its current form on http://docs.kicad-pcb.org/CvPcb/CvPcb.html

Libraries:

Packages:

Website:

Stable branch:

If there is anything I missed, please let me know and thank you to
everyone who has put forth the effort to make this happen.

Cheers,

Wayne

Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-06-20 Thread David J S Briscoe

On 20/06/2015 19:46, Nick Østergaard wrote:

2015-06-20 19:57 GMT+02:00 Nick Østergaard oe.n...@gmail.com:

Den 20/06/2015 18.58 skrev Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com:

Bugs:

See

Documentation:

Yes. Orson put the pns doc in the pcbnew doc and Brian's cmake stuff has
been merged. It can still be improved, but it will build html and pdf now.

Also, some of the grammar in our English documentation could use some
work. If you have the time please fix as much as possible before the
stable release. Every little bit makes a difference.

By the way, with the removal of cvpcb as a standalone exe, what should
we do about the document describing it? Should it be compressed a bit
more and put into the eeschema doc somehow?

You can view its current form on http://docs.kicad-pcb.org/CvPcb/CvPcb.html

Libraries:

Packages:

Website:

Stable branch:

If there is anything I missed, please let me know and thank you to
everyone who has put forth the effort to make this happen.

Cheers,

Wayne

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I'm willing to have a look at some of the grammar in the English
documentation (some of it may be my fault anyway-I helped with the
original French to English translation

Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-06-20 Thread Marco Ciampa

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 08:22:23PM +0100, David J S Briscoe wrote:
 I'm willing to have a look at some of the grammar in the English
 documentation (some of it may be my fault anyway-I helped with the
 original French to English translation ages ago).
 How do I make changes to the files at http://docs.kicad-pcb.org/ ?
 Do I need to log into something? Or can I just download a local copy
 of the files,edit them (using which editor?- I used open office
 originally) and then send the edited versions to someone? Or should
 I just wait until all the documents are on Github (I can log in to
 Github)? Please let me know how I can help.

All docs are already on github. Just log in, fork, edit and ask for a pull.

https://github.com/ciampix/kicad-doc

BTW: this seems to me wrong or a vestigial of some old function:

Getting_Started_in_KiCad.adoc:541

51. If you are interested in knowing what the footprint you are choosing
looks like, you have two options. You can click on the 'View selected
footprint' icon image:images/show_footprint.png[show_footprint_png] for
a preview of the current footprint. Alternatively, click on the 'Display
footprint list documentation' icon
image:images/datasheet.png[datasheet_png] and you will get a multi-page
PDF document with all available footprints. You can print it out and
check your components to make sure that the dimensions match.

from Alternatively, ...

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-06-20 Thread David J S Briscoe


On 20/06/2015 21:00, Marco Ciampa wrote:

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 08:22:23PM +0100, David J S Briscoe wrote:

I'm willing to have a look at some of the grammar in the English
documentation (some of it may be my fault anyway-I helped with the
original French to English translation ages ago).
How do I make changes to the files at http://docs.kicad-pcb.org/ ?
Do I need to log into something? Or can I just download a local copy
of the files,edit them (using which editor?- I used open office
originally) and then send the edited versions to someone? Or should
I just wait until all the documents are on Github (I can log in to
Github)? Please let me know how I can help.

All docs are already on github. Just log in, fork, edit and ask for a pull.

https://github.com/ciampix/kicad-doc

BTW: this seems to me wrong or a vestigial of some old function:

Getting_Started_in_KiCad.adoc:541

51. If you are interested in knowing what the footprint you are choosing
looks like, you have two options. You can click on the 'View selected
footprint' icon image:images/show_footprint.png[show_footprint_png] for
a preview of the current footprint. Alternatively, click on the 'Display
footprint list documentation' icon
image:images/datasheet.png[datasheet_png] and you will get a multi-page
PDF document with all available footprints. You can print it out and
check your components to make sure that the dimensions match.

from Alternatively, ...


Hi,
Unfortunately I can just about log into Github. I have no idea how to 
Fork,Edit and ask for a Pull. The simplest way I can contribute is to 
download each of the existing HTML files, edit them is LibreOffice 
4.4.3.2 and then send them to someone in a zip file as an attachment. 
This is what I used to do with the edits of the original French open 
office files a few years back. I'm afraid I will screw up the files on 
Github so probably better for me to do it the old fashioned way. Who can 
I send the edited files to?


David.

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-06-20 Thread Chris Pavlina

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 09:14:14PM +0100, David J S Briscoe wrote:
 [snip] I'm afraid I will screw up the files on Github so probably
 better for me to do it the old fashioned way. Who can I send the edited
 files to?

If you do this, someone will have to convert them back to AsciiDoc *by 
hand*. The AsciiDoc is the original source now. You'll have to learn 
git.

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-06-20 Thread Martin d'Allens

Actually with Github you can do all three from your web browser,
following those instructions:
https://help.github.com/articles/editing-files-in-another-user-s-repository/

Try on this document for instance:
https://github.com/ciampix/kicad-doc/blob/master/src/KiCad/KiCad.adoc

Martin

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Chris Pavlina pavlina.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 09:14:14PM +0100, David J S Briscoe wrote:
 [snip] I'm afraid I will screw up the files on Github so probably
 better for me to do it the old fashioned way. Who can I send the edited
 files to?

 If you do this, someone will have to convert them back to AsciiDoc *by
 hand*. The AsciiDoc is the original source now. You'll have to learn
 git.

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-06-20 Thread Carl Poirier


 Libraries:

 If there are any last minute changes to the symbol, footprint, and/or 3D
 model libraries, now is the time to get that done.  We should probably
 tag the library repos when we release the stable branch so the packagers
 can pull the same libraries if the need be.


I'd like this https://github.com/KiCad/TO_SOT_Packages_SMD.pretty/issues/1
to be merged. In a few words, it consists of merging some libraries dating
back from pre-github era into two cleaner ones: TO_SOT_Packages_SMD.pretty
and TO_SOT_Packages_THT.pretty. Possibly also renaming the _ThroughHole
suffix to _THT for the other libraries.
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-06-20 Thread Cirilo Bernardo

Re: web page I'll help with the 3D models for whatever boards are featured.
It seems to me that everyone agrees on HackRF so I'll add VRML models
to that. If there are others that people will vote for I'll add them to my
list.

I think for the IDF feature, the screenshot with the video board showing
both IDF and VRML will be enough. If we add a 'Gallery' page in the future
I can add a few more IDF models.

- Cirilo

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com
wrote:

Bugs:

See

Documentation:

Libraries:

Packages:

Website:

Stable branch:

If there is anything I missed, please let me know and thank you to
everyone who has put forth the effort to make this happen.

Cheers,

Wayne

Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-03-17 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier

Hi,

I don’t know how it fits together (I never get the direction of scripting
right… outside of KiCad or inside), but…
if sys.platform.startswith('darwin'):
for singlepath in sys.path:
if os.path.isdir( os.path.join( singlepath, 'scripting', 'plugins')
):
plugin_directories.append( os.path.join( singlepath,
'scripting', 'plugins') )
shouldn’t this be the same/similar as set in pcbnew?
// User scripting folder (~/Library/Application
Support/kicad/scripting/plugins)
pypath = GetOSXKicadUserDataDir() + wxT( /scripting/plugins );

// Machine scripting folder (/Library/Application
Support/kicad/scripting/plugins)
pypath += wxT( : ) + GetOSXKicadMachineDataDir() + wxT(
/scripting/plugins );

// Bundle scripting folder
(kicad.app/Contents/SharedSupport/scripting/plugins)
pypath += wxT( : ) + GetOSXKicadDataDir() + wxT( /scripting/plugins );
Instead of just using sys.path set somewhere else as base?

Regards,
Bernhard

On 17 Mar 2015, at 07:12, Miguel Ángel Ajo majop...@redhat.com wrote:

Nice Adam!

I wonder what happens with the console, basically it fires up, but most
keystrokes are handled as shortcuts..

In the other hand plugin (footprint wizard) loading doesn’t show
any wizard (and we bundle a few).

(Open footprint editor - New footprint using wizard)
check if we’re providing correct env vars, and if this code is valid enough
for our OS X bundling.
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/kicad/product/view/head:/scripting/kicadplugins.i#L70

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/kicad/product/view/head:/scripting/kicadplugins.i#L70

Otherwise we could extend the places were python looks for plugins at start
if that were necessary.

Best,
Miguel Ángel.

Miguel Ángel Ajo

On Monday, 16 de March de 2015 at 19:34, Adam Wolf wrote:

Hi folks,

There is a debug night build of Python scripting on OS X, thanks to Collin.
I haven't switched it over because the scripting console is messed up. I
posted details on the list a few weeks ago, but here's the link.

http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/DEBUG/
http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/DEBUG/

If folks think I should switch it over to be the regular nightlies, I can do
that no problem.

Adam Wolf
Cofounder and Engineer
WL

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com
mailto:stambau...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope we can get Python scripting working on OSX before the stable
release but I cannot guarantee it. Building OSX binaries has been
difficult to say the least but I think we're close. The OSX devs can
probably give you a better idea than I can.

On 3/14/2015 5:00 PM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
I still cannot build with Python Scripting enabled in OS X,
and the build made by Adam was not working (Python console unusable)

Will that be fixed before stable release? I am not using it yet because
of this.

Just curious,
Jean-Paul
AC9GH

On Mar 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com
mailto:stambau...@gmail.com wrote:

As you all know we are currently working towards a stable release. I
need to get and idea of what open items are left before I declare a
feature freeze. Here is the list of things I know about:

* Environment variable path edit dialog (me, in progress).
* Add bitmaps and missing entries to GAL canvas context menu (CERN).
* Python API (Miguel).
* OSX track pad (Garth).

Are there any other features that are on the radar for the next stable
release? I will make exceptions on a case by case basis after the
freeze but I don't want to get blind sided by any unexpected feature
requests the week before the stable release.

We need to go through the bug tracker and make sure we don't have any
known severe bugs which cause crashes and/or data loss that have not
been tagged fix committed and take the appropriate action. This number
will have to be zero before I will make the stable release. Obviously I
would like to get as many of non-critical bugs fixed as well.

What is the current status of the documentation and it's CMake build
configuration code? Are we far enough along that we can move the repo
to https://github.com/KiCad https://github.com/KiCad? I want all of
the official KiCad repos
there for obvious reasons. We also need to get this set up soon so the
documentation for the new router features can be added which I'm
guessing will take awhile. I will give all of the necessary document
developers commit access to that repo once it is set up. I'm going to
let the doc developers handle the pull requests so I can keep my
involvement to a minimum. Also, what about nightly builds of the
documentation? We will need them as well.

I think we are in pretty good shape as far as nightly builds go for all
of the major platforms. Thanks to all of you who have worked

Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-03-17 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo

Nice Adam!

I wonder what happens with the console, basically it fires up, but most
keystrokes are handled as shortcuts..

In the other hand plugin (footprint wizard) loading doesn’t show
any wizard (and we bundle a few).

(Open footprint editor - New footprint using wizard)
check if we’re providing correct env vars, and if this code is valid enough for
our OS X bundling.
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/kicad/product/view/head:/scripting/kicadplugins.i#L70

Otherwise we could extend the places were python looks for plugins at start if
that were necessary.

Best,
Miguel Ángel.

Miguel Ángel Ajo

On Monday, 16 de March de 2015 at 19:34, Adam Wolf wrote:

Hi folks,

There is a debug night build of Python scripting on OS X, thanks to Collin. I
haven't switched it over because the scripting console is messed up. I
posted details on the list a few weeks ago, but here's the link.

http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/DEBUG/

If folks think I should switch it over to be the regular nightlies, I can do
that no problem.

Adam Wolf
Cofounder and Engineer
WL

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com
(mailto:stambau...@gmail.com) wrote:
I hope we can get Python scripting working on OSX before the stable
release but I cannot guarantee it. Building OSX binaries has been
difficult to say the least but I think we're close. The OSX devs can
probably give you a better idea than I can.

On 3/14/2015 5:00 PM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
I still cannot build with Python Scripting enabled in OS X,
and the build made by Adam was not working (Python console unusable)

Will that be fixed before stable release? I am not using it yet because
of this.

Just curious,
Jean-Paul
AC9GH

On Mar 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com
(mailto:stambau...@gmail.com) wrote:

As you all know we are currently working towards a stable release. I
need to get and idea of what open items are left before I declare a
feature freeze. Here is the list of things I know about:

* Environment variable path edit dialog (me, in progress).
* Add bitmaps and missing entries to GAL canvas context menu (CERN).
* Python API (Miguel).
* OSX track pad (Garth).

What is the current status of the documentation and it's CMake build
configuration code? Are we far enough along that we can move the repo
to https://github.com/KiCad? I want all of the official KiCad repos
there for obvious reasons. We also need to get this set up soon so the
documentation for the new router features can be added which I'm
guessing will take awhile. I will give all of the necessary document
developers commit access to that repo once it is set up. I'm going to
let the doc developers handle the pull requests so I can keep my
involvement to a minimum. Also, what about nightly builds of the
documentation? We will need them as well.

I think we are in pretty good shape as far as nightly builds go for all
of the major platforms. Thanks to all of you who have worked tirelessly
on this. If we are missing anything in this regard, please help out if
you can so we can have as many bases covered as possible once the stable
release is out.

Hopefully I can announce the feature freeze in the next few weeks so we
can start focusing on the stable release.

Thank you all for efforts. I hoping the next stable release of KiCad
will meet the needs of our users.

Cheers,

Wayne

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Great, if this is a matter of a bugfix or two and Python support on OS X
works drastically better then I am all for it :)

Adam Wolf

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:31 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier stegma...@sw-systems.de
wrote:

Hi,

I don’t know how it fits together (I never get the direction of scripting
right… outside of KiCad or inside), but…

if sys.platform.startswith('darwin'):
for singlepath in sys.path:
if os.path.isdir( os.path.join( singlepath, 'scripting',
'plugins') ):
plugin_directories.append( os.path.join( singlepath,
'scripting', 'plugins') )

shouldn’t this be the same/similar as set in pcbnew?

// User scripting folder (~/Library/Application
Support/kicad/scripting/plugins)
pypath = GetOSXKicadUserDataDir() + wxT( /scripting/plugins );

// Machine scripting folder (/Library/Application
Support/kicad/scripting/plugins)
pypath += wxT( : ) + GetOSXKicadMachineDataDir() + wxT(
/scripting/plugins );

// Bundle scripting folder
(kicad.app/Contents/SharedSupport/scripting/plugins)
pypath += wxT( : ) + GetOSXKicadDataDir() + wxT( /scripting/plugins );

Instead of just using sys.path set somewhere else as base?

Regards,
Bernhard

On 17 Mar 2015, at 07:12, Miguel Ángel Ajo majop...@redhat.com wrote:

Nice Adam!

I wonder what happens with the console, basically it fires up, but most
keystrokes are handled as shortcuts..

In the other hand plugin (footprint wizard) loading doesn’t show
any wizard (and we bundle a few).

(Open footprint editor - New footprint using wizard)
check if we’re providing correct env vars, and if this code is valid
enough for our OS X bundling.

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/kicad/product/view/head:/scripting/kicadplugins.i#L70

Otherwise we could extend the places were python looks for plugins at
start if that were necessary.

Best,
Miguel Ángel.

Miguel Ángel Ajo

On Monday, 16 de March de 2015 at 19:34, Adam Wolf wrote:

Hi folks,

There is a debug night build of Python scripting on OS X, thanks to
Collin. I haven't switched it over because the scripting console is messed
up. I posted details on the list a few weeks ago, but here's the link.

http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/DEBUG/

If folks think I should switch it over to be the regular nightlies, I can
do that no problem.

Adam Wolf
Cofounder and Engineer
WL

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com
wrote:

I hope we can get Python scripting working on OSX before the stable
release but I cannot guarantee it. Building OSX binaries has been
difficult to say the least but I think we're close. The OSX devs can
probably give you a better idea than I can.

On 3/14/2015 5:00 PM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
I still cannot build with Python Scripting enabled in OS X,
and the build made by Adam was not working (Python console unusable)

Will that be fixed before stable release? I am not using it yet because
of this.

Just curious,
Jean-Paul
AC9GH

On Mar 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com
wrote:

As you all know we are currently working towards a stable release. I
need to get and idea of what open items are left before I declare a
feature freeze. Here is the list of things I know about:

* Environment variable path edit dialog (me, in progress).
* Add bitmaps and missing entries to GAL canvas context menu (CERN).
* Python API (Miguel).
* OSX track pad (Garth).

I think we are in pretty good shape as far as nightly builds go for all
of the major platforms. Thanks to all of you who have worked tirelessly
on this.

Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-03-16 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

I hope we can get Python scripting working on OSX before the stable
release but I cannot guarantee it.  Building OSX binaries has been
difficult to say the least but I think we're close.  The OSX devs can
probably give you a better idea than I can.

On 3/14/2015 5:00 PM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
 I still cannot build with Python Scripting enabled in OS X,
 and the build made by Adam was not working (Python console unusable)
 
 Will that be fixed before stable release? I am not using it yet because of 
 this.
 
 Just curious,
 Jean-Paul
 AC9GH
 
 
 On Mar 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com wrote:

 As you all know we are currently working towards a stable release.  I
 need to get and idea of what open items are left before I declare a
 feature freeze.  Here is the list of things I know about:

 * Environment variable path edit dialog (me, in progress).
 * Add bitmaps and missing entries to GAL canvas context menu (CERN).
 * Python API (Miguel).
 * OSX track pad (Garth).

 Are there any other features that are on the radar for the next stable
 release?  I will make exceptions on a case by case basis after the
 freeze but I don't want to get blind sided by any unexpected feature
 requests the week before the stable release.

 We need to go through the bug tracker and make sure we don't have any
 known severe bugs which cause crashes and/or data loss that have not
 been tagged fix committed and take the appropriate action.  This number
 will have to be zero before I will make the stable release.  Obviously I
 would like to get as many of non-critical bugs fixed as well.

 What is the current status of the documentation and it's CMake build
 configuration code?  Are we far enough along that we can move the repo
 to https://github.com/KiCad?  I want all of the official KiCad repos
 there for obvious reasons.  We also need to get this set up soon so the
 documentation for the new router features can be added which I'm
 guessing will take awhile.  I will give all of the necessary document
 developers commit access to that repo once it is set up.  I'm going to
 let the doc developers handle the pull requests so I can keep my
 involvement to a minimum.  Also, what about nightly builds of the
 documentation?  We will need them as well.

 I think we are in pretty good shape as far as nightly builds go for all
 of the major platforms.  Thanks to all of you who have worked tirelessly
 on this.  If we are missing anything in this regard, please help out if
 you can so we can have as many bases covered as possible once the stable
 release is out.

 Hopefully I can announce the feature freeze in the next few weeks so we
 can start focusing on the stable release.

 Thank you all for efforts.  I hoping the next stable release of KiCad
 will meet the needs of our users.

 Cheers,

 Wayne

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-03-16 Thread Adam Wolf

Hi folks,

There is a debug night build of Python scripting on OS X, thanks to Collin.
I haven't switched it over because the scripting console is messed up.  I
posted details on the list a few weeks ago, but here's the link.

http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/DEBUG/

If folks think I should switch it over to be the regular nightlies, I can
do that no problem.

Adam Wolf
Cofounder and Engineer
WL


On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I hope we can get Python scripting working on OSX before the stable
 release but I cannot guarantee it.  Building OSX binaries has been
 difficult to say the least but I think we're close.  The OSX devs can
 probably give you a better idea than I can.

 On 3/14/2015 5:00 PM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
  I still cannot build with Python Scripting enabled in OS X,
  and the build made by Adam was not working (Python console unusable)
 
  Will that be fixed before stable release? I am not using it yet because
 of this.
 
  Just curious,
  Jean-Paul
  AC9GH
 
 
  On Mar 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  As you all know we are currently working towards a stable release.  I
  need to get and idea of what open items are left before I declare a
  feature freeze.  Here is the list of things I know about:
 
  * Environment variable path edit dialog (me, in progress).
  * Add bitmaps and missing entries to GAL canvas context menu (CERN).
  * Python API (Miguel).
  * OSX track pad (Garth).
 
  Are there any other features that are on the radar for the next stable
  release?  I will make exceptions on a case by case basis after the
  freeze but I don't want to get blind sided by any unexpected feature
  requests the week before the stable release.
 
  We need to go through the bug tracker and make sure we don't have any
  known severe bugs which cause crashes and/or data loss that have not
  been tagged fix committed and take the appropriate action.  This number
  will have to be zero before I will make the stable release.  Obviously I
  would like to get as many of non-critical bugs fixed as well.
 
  What is the current status of the documentation and it's CMake build
  configuration code?  Are we far enough along that we can move the repo
  to https://github.com/KiCad?  I want all of the official KiCad repos
  there for obvious reasons.  We also need to get this set up soon so the
  documentation for the new router features can be added which I'm
  guessing will take awhile.  I will give all of the necessary document
  developers commit access to that repo once it is set up.  I'm going to
  let the doc developers handle the pull requests so I can keep my
  involvement to a minimum.  Also, what about nightly builds of the
  documentation?  We will need them as well.
 
  I think we are in pretty good shape as far as nightly builds go for all
  of the major platforms.  Thanks to all of you who have worked tirelessly
  on this.  If we are missing anything in this regard, please help out if
  you can so we can have as many bases covered as possible once the stable
  release is out.
 
  Hopefully I can announce the feature freeze in the next few weeks so we
  can start focusing on the stable release.
 
  Thank you all for efforts.  I hoping the next stable release of KiCad
  will meet the needs of our users.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Wayne
 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-03-16 Thread Wayne Stambaugh

On 3/14/2015 5:43 PM, John Beard wrote:
 On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 14:47 -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
 
 What is the current status of the documentation and it's CMake build
 configuration code?  Are we far enough along that we can move the repo
 to https://github.com/KiCad?  I want all of the official KiCad repos
 there for obvious reasons.  We also need to get this set up soon so the
 documentation for the new router features can be added which I'm
 guessing will take awhile.  I will give all of the necessary document
 developers commit access to that repo once it is set up.  I'm going to
 let the doc developers handle the pull requests so I can keep my
 involvement to a minimum.  Also, what about nightly builds of the
 documentation?  We will need them as well.
 
 Good timing! I just 5 minutes ago filed a pull request for the last two
 chapters of the Pcbnew documentation, which I believe means all existing
 (English) documentation is now in Asciidoc format.
 
 Writing the array tool documentation is next on my docs list.
 
 Cheers,
 
 John
 

Excellent work!  I'll have to clone the repo an see if I can get the
documentation to build.  If we are this far along, we should be able to
get the GAL canvas, PS router, and diff/pair router documentation
merged into the Pcbnew manual before too long.  Thank you doc devs for
all of your hard work.

Cheers,

Wayne

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-03-15 Thread Maciej Sumiński

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On 03/15/2015 04:47 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote:
 On 03/14/2015 07:47 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
 As you all know we are currently working towards a stable
 release. I need to get and idea of what open items are left
 before I declare a feature freeze.  Here is the list of things I
 know about:
 
 * Environment variable path edit dialog (me, in progress). * Add 
 bitmaps and missing entries to GAL canvas context menu (CERN). * 
 Python API (Miguel). * OSX track pad (Garth).
 
 Are there any other features that are on the radar for the next 
 stable release?  I will make exceptions on a case by case basis 
 after the freeze but I don't want to get blind sided by any 
 unexpected feature requests the week before the stable release.
 
 Hi Wayne,
 
 There is also a new footprint library wizard in progress. It should
 be ready in the upcoming weekend.

Minor mistake:
s/weekend/week

 
 Regards, Orson
 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-03-15 Thread Maciej Sumiński

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On 03/14/2015 07:47 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
 As you all know we are currently working towards a stable release.
 I need to get and idea of what open items are left before I declare
 a feature freeze.  Here is the list of things I know about:
 
 * Environment variable path edit dialog (me, in progress). * Add
 bitmaps and missing entries to GAL canvas context menu (CERN). *
 Python API (Miguel). * OSX track pad (Garth).
 
 Are there any other features that are on the radar for the next
 stable release?  I will make exceptions on a case by case basis
 after the freeze but I don't want to get blind sided by any
 unexpected feature requests the week before the stable release.

Hi Wayne,

There is also a new footprint library wizard in progress. It should be
ready in the upcoming weekend.

Regards,
Orson
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-03-15 Thread Marco Ciampa

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 02:47:45PM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
 As you all know we are currently working towards a stable release.  I
 need to get and idea of what open items are left before I declare a
 feature freeze.  Here is the list of things I know about:
 
 * Environment variable path edit dialog (me, in progress).
 * Add bitmaps and missing entries to GAL canvas context menu (CERN).
 * Python API (Miguel).
 * OSX track pad (Garth).

 Are there any other features that are on the radar for the next stable
 release?  I will make exceptions on a case by case basis after the
 freeze but I don't want to get blind sided by any unexpected feature
 requests the week before the stable release.

These are my suggestions for new features for this stable release or the
next, whatever you think is better.

* new documentation access in place

I mean, you know, the new documentation format is able to produce:

1) nationalized output
2) more than one format output: html, pdf, epub and more

Now the program use a pdf reader for consulting the documentation.
We can:

1) switch to html format for the default documentation format to be more
easily consulted (so no pdf reader but an html browser instead)

2) enable a fallback to let people do not install kicad doc package and
read the docs direcly on line

3) let the program switch the language docs automatically using the
program language preference (if I use the program in Italian I would
probably prefer to read the docs in Italian too)

4) in the future this switch will enable us to have even a context
sensitive help command in which a user will be able to open the user
(reference) manual directy in the page describing the command icon under
which the mouse pointer is in that moment. To make sure that this happens
the docs should be edited by inserting references to the right places.

* move the .po files from the docs tree to the main source tree

This to manage automatically during compilation process:

1) the production of the binary .mo files

2) update automatically the .po files from the sources without relying on
an external program (poedit) features and having to commit the binary .mo
files together with the source .po files

...

Bear in mind that I am not a programmer, and these are suggestions that I
am not able to do by myself. I really wish I were able to attach a patch
for this!

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-03-14 Thread Garth Corral


 On Mar 14, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As you all know we are currently working towards a stable release.  I
 need to get and idea of what open items are left before I declare a
 feature freeze.  Here is the list of things I know about:
 
 * Environment variable path edit dialog (me, in progress).
 * Add bitmaps and missing entries to GAL canvas context menu (CERN).
 * Python API (Miguel).
 * OSX track pad (Garth).

I can’t guarantee that I’ll be able to do anything, but I will try.

I have no Windows or Linux  machines so if someone could provide me a Windows 
binary of the trackpad branch maybe I can beg or borrow a box to at least 
observe the behavior.  I won’t have a Windows development environment so I’ll 
just have to hope I can see something by inspection.


Garth




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