[lace] Miss Channer - Crowood web site

2014-01-08 Thread Jean Nathan
In response to Lynn's information about Crowood not being able to identify the
title, I've sent them all the information about the mat i.e. the fact that it
was a supplement, the format it took, what was printed on it, the paper folder
it came in, e.t.c., publication details of In the Cause of English Lace
(which, of course, they already have) in the hope they can find it. I added
that there are some lacemakers who would sell their grandmothers to get their
hands on a legal copy!

It's quite possible that Ruth Bean didn't include the mat as part of the sale
of their business, in which case that edition is lost forever, but at least
we'll know that that avenue can't be pursued further.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] Compagnie des Indes

2014-01-08 Thread Nathalie
Hello everyone,

Many important lace manufacturers were member of the Compagnie des Indes (
India Company), with sales room in Paris, rue de Richelieu
80x-apple-data-detectors://0.
 One of the lace manufacturers was Georges Martin.
Although the French East Indian Company stopped in 1875, I have a postcard
which mentions  Georges Martin, Conpagnie de Indes 1904.
I wonder if the lace was continued to be traded by the Compagnie des Indes
even after 1875.

Does anyone have a clue?
Thank you :-)

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Re: [lace] Miss Channer - Crowood web site

2014-01-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It's possible that Ruth Bean was licenced,by C C Channer's heirs, to use the 
pricking, but the copyright remained with her heirs.  If that is the case then 
only the artwork for the Ruth Bean version will be copyrighted to Ruth Bean's 
heirs.

Brenda

On 8 Jan 2014, at 08:16, Jean Nathan wrote:

 It's quite possible that Ruth Bean didn't include the mat as part of the sale
 of their business, in which case that edition is lost forever, but at least
 we'll know that that avenue can't be pursued further.

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Miss Channer's mat, copyright

2014-01-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Yes, it's in copyright until the end of 2019.  
I was burning too much midnight oil!

Brenda

On 8 Jan 2014, at 01:16, Clay Blackwell wrote:

 Make that 2019...

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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[lace] Miss Channer - Crowood Website

2014-01-08 Thread Jean Nathan
I've already had a rely from Crowood:

Thank you for your reply. We understand that Ruth 
Bean published it as a
supplement to the title In the Cause of English 
Lace, however, so far we have
been unable to trace the artwork for 
it.
 
Yours
Ken Hathaway

Whether that means they'll continue looking is unclear.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] Print On Demand books

2014-01-08 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnids

Thank you for your replies regarding spiral bound books and for the
recommendation for thicker covers. I will pass that on.
to my printer.

Happy lacemaking

Alex

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Re: [lace] print on demand

2014-01-08 Thread Sue Duckles
As Susan says, quite a few books have changed over... 2 on a 'lacy theme' that
spring to mind are Tatting Collage and Mastering Tatting, both by Lindsay
Rogers.  I have both of these books and they certainly lay relatively flat and
are just as easily handled as any other book!

The only other 'binding' that I would 'enjoy' is the idea of Ulrike Voelker
where she produced the torchon books in ringbinders.  This is also extremely
useful to the lacemaker as it also lays flat!  On demand book publication in
A4 or the american equivalent  could be good, as the purchaser could provide
her own binder then she or he could colour coordinate according to the
type of lace inside the folder!!

As for Noelene, if you do produce another book Noelene, we all need to know
about it and how to get hold of it!

Sue in East Yorkshire where it's dryish, sunny and not particularly windy at
the moment!!  (But don't tell it, otherwise it will revert to 'something
horrible'!)

On 7 Jan 2014, at 23:48, hottl...@neo.rr.com hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote:

 May I add, the A to Z books have changed over the years from basic spiral
bound to spiral bound with a spine cover.  This is a much more robust format 
may solve the issues that Jacquie has identified.


My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/

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Re: [lace] print on demand

2014-01-08 Thread Catherine Barley
- Original Message - 
From: hottl...@neo.rr.com


Subject: [lace] print on demand


May I add, the A to Z books have changed over the years from basic spiral 
bound to spiral bound with a spine cover.  This is a much more robust 
format  may solve the issues that Jacquie has identified.  From the 
Country Bumpkin website describing their book on Beading:


Semi-hardcover, Concealed spiral binding, 228mm x 218mm wide, 128pp


Country Bumpkin are a big oganisation and will of course have huge print 
runs compared to those of us going down the POD route to republish popular 
out of print lace titles.  Cost is the main issue and the books have to be 
for sale at an affordable price and will naturally be very small print runs, 
which of course makes them more expensive.  A hard cover would be very nice 
but also expensive, which is why we are all going for paperbacks.  My mother 
always told me as a child when I wanted something It's all very well having 
champagne tastes but not much good if you only have lemonade money!  There 
are so many pros and cons and with postage being so high for all of us, 
weight has to be a very serious consideration.  It's no use producing a 
beautifully covered book if everyone is going to complain about the cost of 
postage.  I do have several of the Country Bumpkin spiral bound books with 
the heavier weight covers but they are not too much thicker than an ordinary 
laminated paper cover.


I am currently waiting for a quote from the printer before I can make the 
decision to go ahead with my own POD  so am naturally very interested in all 
opinions being currently posted..  However, I have quickly discovered that 
there is more to this than initially meets the eye and there are 
restrictions as to what I would like, compared towhat is afforable to all 
concerned.


Catherine Barley

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www.catherinebarley.com



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Re: [lace] print on demand

2014-01-08 Thread laceandbits
Sue said The only other 'binding' that I would 'enjoy' is the idea of Ulrike 
Voelker where she produced the torchon books in ringbinders. This is also 
extremely useful to the lacemaker as it also lays flat!

The main problem with this style for me is that it takes up more room on the 
shelf. Not only is there the bulk of the binder itself, it also increases the 
size from standard A4 to A4 plus some top and bottom and extra at the spine for 
the rings, so it no longer fits on the same shelf with tight A4 book spacing.  

A secondary problem is that UK standard two rings don't give the pages anything 
like the same level of support that spiral bound does and so pages are at more 
risk of damage. The pages (of my Grounds volumes at least) are punched for 
multi-ring binders but the only one of those I have I bought in France - chosen 
for a pretty cover I didn't realise until I was home that it is 4 not 2 rings. 
 Are they standard on mainland Europe or was this an anomaly?  No doubt they 
are available in the UK; I'll have to look but I bet they're going to be 
pricier than a standard two ring binder, and of course that adds to the cost of 
the book.

This is my only gripe about Ulrike's otherwise excellent books, the range of 
shapes and sizes from thin A5 through A5 height but square, to A4 and on to 
boxes of loose pricking and unboxed A4 sheets which need a ring binder making 
them bigger still. As so many of her books cover more than one lace style they 
are easiest filed together, but the large shelf gap needed for the A4+ ones is 
wasted on the shorter styles.

Also don't forget that although A4 is the European standard both the non-metric 
USA and the metricated Canada use 'letter' as their default office paper size, 
so if they can get A4 folders at all, they probably have to pay a premium for 
them, in the same way we have to here to get anything in 'letter' format.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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[lace] Crowood books

2014-01-08 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Friends,

 publication details of In the Cause of English Lace
(which, of course, they already have) in the hope they can find it. I added
that there are some lacemakers who would sell their grandmothers to get their
hands on a legal copy!


I bought this book from Crowood about 2 weeks ago with full Master 
Card details etc. Then just a couple of nights ago I received an 
email from them saying that the book is no longer available and that 
nothing will be deducted from my Master Card!


What a pain!!
David in Ballarat, AUS

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[lace] Re: Book bindings

2014-01-08 Thread Karen Sammie Manduca
Just to add another opinion to the discussion on book bindings, I always prefer 
a paperback to a hardback for reasons of weight and space.

Karen in Malta

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[lace] Susan Cox laces at the Bonham's auction on January 21st

2014-01-08 Thread Laurie Waters
Claire Browne, the textile specialist at Bonhams just wrote to me saying
that Roger Cox has just given permission to identify the laces in the
upcoming January 21st sale belonging to his wife Susan. They are lots 315,
324, 325, 327 and 338.  Note also that a substantial number of fine pieces
in this auction belonged to Ann Collier.

I've got a more complete notice on this auction on LaceNews at
http://tinyurl.com/ltdjk4a

Laurie

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[lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2014-01-08 Thread Talktalk
I have been reading the dozens of messages regarding Miss Channer's mat and I 
can only think that this must be the holy grail of lacemaking. Sorry to be so 
ignorant but what is so special about it and if someone has the pricking would 
it be so terrible a crime to let somebody else borrow it for their own use and 
who is going to know anyway? Surely if whoever is the original owner of this 
pattern is so bothered about it why is there nowhere to purchase it from and 
why do we only hear from them in a law court.  If it is such a huge project I 
can't imagine there will be that many people wanting to do it. 
I'm sure plenty of people will tell me I'm missing the point. I probably am. 
Ann 

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[lace] Forthcoming sale of lace effect belonging to the late susan Cox

2014-01-08 Thread Catherine Barley
Dear friends

I too have received an email from Claire Brown Textile Specialist at Bonhams,
about the forthcoming sale of lace effects belonging to the late Susan Cox.
She has confirmed my belief that non of the items in the collection have any
connection with the  Dr Spriggs collection.  It was my understanding that they
were on perrmanent loan to The English Lace School and do know that when the
school closed they were then house at Rougemont House , Exeter and have been
advised that the collection is now at Allhallows Museum, Devon. (see below).

Catherine

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

  Dear Catherine,
  Please excuse this out-of-the-blue message. I came across a post from
you on an online lace forum, regarding the next Bonhams Textiles sale on
January 21st and the speculation that some of the lots may have belonged to
the late Susan Cox. I am now able to confirm that five lots did belong to her
- lots 315, 324, 325, 327 and 338 and I am about to add the provenance to our
online catalogue. But I do not believe there is any connection between the
items we are selling and the Dr Spriggs collection.
  I hope this clarifies the situation and feel free to confirm this
information on the online forum, as I do not have access to comment on it.
  The Bonhams sale is available to view online here:
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21727 and the Textiles are lots 303 to 417.
  Best wishes, Claire Browne, Bonhams Textiles Specialist

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Re: [lace] print on demand/ringbinders

2014-01-08 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Jacquie and everyone

Indeedy, this is the case. I repunched the holes of the first part of
Ulrike's Torchon to fit one of our standard North American ring binders;
the pages stick out the top but they are useable. The second one is in a
proper A4 binder I pinched from work, from the purchasing department. It
has stunning photos on the cover of survey instruments made in Germany. At
least the pages are useable and protected (and the binder is super
sturdy!). I haven't bought part three yet, but a dear friend in Europe
contributed a plain binder. I swapped something of equal value including
the postage. I recall from our searching high and low that a stationery
chain in the US has A4 binders but purchasing was difficult by mail.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:07 AM, laceandbits laceandb...@aol.com wrote:


 Also don't forget that although A4 is the European standard both the
 non-metric USA and the metricated Canada use 'letter' as their default
 office paper size, so if they can get A4 folders at all, they probably have
 to pay a premium for them, in the same way we have to here to get anything
 in 'letter' format.

 --
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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RE: [lace] print on demand/ringbinders

2014-01-08 Thread Jean Nathan
In the UK Staples carries both two- and four-ring A4 plain cover binders in
two, possibly three thicknesses. Rymans might also carry them.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] A 4 ring binders

2014-01-08 Thread Tess Parrish
Bev and anyone else,

I got my A4 binder from Staples, on line but no problem.  It has four rings 
which match the holes in Ulrike's folders quite perfectly.  I ordered the 
three-inch size, which holds all three of the folders plus a bit extra for all 
the stuff I added to it, like prickings and notes.

Tess

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[lace] Re: A 4 ring binders

2014-01-08 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Tess and everyone
Yes, it is possible. It is the shipping to my address in Canada bit that
was difficult ;)
If anyone does know a source in Canada, please let me know.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Tess Parrish tess1...@aol.com wrote:

 Bev and anyone else,

 I got my A4 binder from Staples, on line but no problem.


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] A4 binders

2014-01-08 Thread Witchy Woman
For US lacemakers...
A good source for A4 binders is Amazon.  Wilson-Jones is
the brand I've purchased.  They're sturdy and well-made and have pockets. 
Ulrike's Torchon series fits in the 2 binder.  The 1 isn't quite big enough.
Another source is Staples.  They have them on-line, but you might be able to
go into a store and ask them to order it for you...it may prevent having to
pay shipping.
Peg
at the Library in Cleveland Ohio...now off to read...

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Re: [lace] print on demand/ringbinders

2014-01-08 Thread The Lacebee
The problem with ring binders is that after a while the pages can 'drop' within 
the binder and start to pull in the holes causing the to tear.  I used to put 
all the pages into plastic pockets, within the folder to give more stability 
but then found that the photocopies or printing stuck to the pocket.  However, 
these days I buy archive quality pockets that don't do that but I have a number 
of prickings where I have had to go over and add back in some dots from the 
early days.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker
 

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[lace] Spiral binding

2014-01-08 Thread Witchy Woman
Happy New Year, everyone!
I like the idea of spiral binding when it comes to
being able to open the book to work from it or to copy a pattern.
I also see
the problems with not being able to see what the book is.  We use binding
systems at work, so I'm somewhat familiar with them.  You don't always need
to use a clear plastic cover page.  We use sheets that are a little heavier
than card stock that wear very well.  
I've taken a few of my pattern books to
OfficeMax.  For a few dollars they'll punch and bind them either spiral or
regular combs.  So if the digital printer can't do spiral binding there's
always an outside option.
Peg
on my lunch hour in Cleveland Ohio where it's a
positively balmy 22F...as opposed to -6F at this time yesterday.

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[lace] Lace Everests. Was Ms Channer's mat

2014-01-08 Thread The Lacebee
Dear all,

I have led you astray with my Everest to be conquested.  The floral bucks fan 
was sold by Christine Springett but designed by Bridgett Cook.  I got the 
pattern out to check it for a fellow spider and realised my mistake.

Also I've just seen that it only take 77 pairs.  I'm feeling quiet positive 
that with my lovely fan pillow I could do this now.  Hubby has asked for a big 
piece for his coffee table (I've a lovely pattern from an old Anna of Brugge 
flower lace that would be right for him) so perhaps this can be my end of year 
piece ... Erm after I've done the 10 stars for the Xmas mobile!

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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[lace] print on demand

2014-01-08 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  For Catherine  other lace authors, I did not intend to add to your 
angst over publishing issues!  I should have used a different example as I had 
no idea that Country Bumpkin is a big company.  You made me think of two 
embroidery authors who have self published  their coil bound books do not 
have the covered spine.  That said, a quick Google search brought up more 
results than I could ever read in a day regarding POD  coil bindings.  One 
discussion on Create Space Community in 2011 informed me that coil binding 
requires more labor  the unit cost (in 2011 USD) is $1.30 to $2.50 higher.  It 
noted that coil bound books are more difficult to store, display, shrink wrap  
ship.  It would seem that a covered spine would overcome those drawbacks.  
Another site--Book Patch--specified that the maximum page count for perfect 
bound books 8.5x11 is 310, all other sizes 880 pages.  Spiral binding maximum 
page count is 880.  Perhaps this is another reason why some lace!
  books are published in odd sizes, in addition to aesthetic reasons?  Another 
site--Formax--mentions short run printing, as in 100 or 1,000 books instead of 
10,000.  Although they are in the US, there is convenient contact info  we ARE 
a global economy!  And what about ebooks?  Mary Corbet (www.needlenthread.com) 
has been using this format, although I don't know to what level of success.  
Lastly, I would urge our very excellent designers  authors to consider Six 
Degrees of Separation to help solve the puzzle.  Networking does work!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation

This discussion has allowed our designers/authors to explain the limitations 
they face but it's also given them valuable customer feedback.  Customers want 
quality  ease of use at a reasonable price.  The last time this issue was 
aired, I thought that a consortium of authors had been developed to pool 
information so that each did not have to plow the same ground.  If not  I were 
an author, I would email or phone some POD publishers  inquire about a covered 
spine coil binding.  Perhaps a short print run in the US could serve 
US/Canadian customers, while a publisher in the UK could supply the UK  
beyond.  Best wishes--I truly want you to succeed in publishing your books!!  
Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL, USA  

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Re: [lace] print on demand/ringbinders - Torn Holes

2014-01-08 Thread Jeriames
Dear Liz,
 
Office supply stores have little packages of adhesive-backed round rings  
(shaped like Life Savers candy, with holes in the middle) made of a non-tear  
material that you can stick over torn holes to reinforce pages in your lace 
 binders. 
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
--- 
 
 
In a message dated 1/8/2014 2:15:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
thelace...@btinternet.com writes:

The  problem with ring binders is that after a while the pages can 'drop' 
within  the binder and start to pull in the holes causing them to tear.  Liz  
Baker

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Fw: [lace] Spiral binding

2014-01-08 Thread Sue
Adding to this you could use coloured card to denote various type of lace, 
ie red, yellow, blue and green etc.  I have done this and typed the name on 
the front first.

Sue T
Dorset UK

Happy New Year, everyone!
I like the idea of spiral binding when it comes to
being able to open the book to work from it or to copy a pattern.
I also see
the problems with not being able to see what the book is.  We use binding
systems at work, so I'm somewhat familiar with them.  You don't always need
to use a clear plastic cover page.  We use sheets that are a little heavier
than card stock that wear very well.
Peg

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Re: [lace] A4 binders

2014-01-08 Thread Nancy Neff
Prices change frequently on Amazon, so it may be of interest to owners of
Ulrike's loose-leaf publications to know that 3 Wilson-Jones A4 binders are
currently $19.19 (35% off), meaning that right now they cost less than either
the 2 or 1 sizes! --go figure.  And free shipping if you are a member of
Amazon Prime.
 
Thanks for suggesting Amazon--the 3-size at Staples is
$28.69 plus shipping.
 
Nancy
Connecticut, USA

 From: Witchy Woman
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To: Arachne Group lace@arachne.com 
Sent:
Wednesday, January 8, 2014 2:09 PM
Subject: [lace] A4 binders
  

For US
lacemakers...
A good source for A4 binders is Amazon.�Wilson-Jones is
the
brand I've purchased.�They're sturdy and well-made and have pockets...

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Re: [lace] print on demand/ringbinders - Torn Holes

2014-01-08 Thread The Lacebee
Ah yes Jeri,

Had a bad experience with those in my student days.  I spent a whole week 
adding them to my textbook that came in a ring binder and went to pull it out 
after the holidays, got it jammed in the bookcase and came away with a ring 
binder empty of everything but hundreds of reinforcement rings.

Probably a once in a lifetime experience but I was traumatised for a ling time 
afterwards 

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

 On 8 Jan 2014, at 19:51, jeria...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Office supply stores have little packages of adhesive-backed round rings  
 (shaped like Life Savers candy, with holes in the middle) made of a non-tear  
 material that you can stick over torn holes to reinforce pages in your lace 
 binders.

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[lace] Looking for Bridgett Cook

2014-01-08 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver
 email address. If someone has it could they please off list send it to me so
I can contact her. 
  This is the second time I have had to send this message.
I am getting really tired of  Spambot.
Arachne list is the only place where my
emails keep coming back as undeliverable. Why is it happening 
in the past
couple of weeks. Has something changed on Arachne Emailing?
Wind To Thy Wings,
Sherry
New York, US of America
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Re: [lace] Print On Demand books - Shelving

2014-01-08 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 1/7/2014 5:37:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
laceandb...@aol.com writes:

As a teacher carrying books around, I do try to be very  careful to give my 
spiral and comb bound books support from more traditionally  bound ones. 
They are also harder to push into a gap in a very full bookcase!  If you 
produce a spiral bound book, please make sure you opt for an extra  heavy 
cover sheet front and back as this makes a vast difference to both the  feel 
and the durability of the book. Jacquie in Lincolnshire

Shelving solutions I have found for spiral shortcomings cost  a lot more 
than would a normal hardback book.  
 
An additional concern:  Some people put books in tote bags with their  lace 
pillows or supplies.  If jostled, the spiral and comb bound  books are much 
more likely to damage lace threads! 
 
For spiral, I prefer books that have a hard rounded cover over  the 
spirals.  Title can be seen on spine, and nothing to damage adjacent  books on 
the 
shelf.  The Royal School of Needlework has chosen this method  of binding 
for their series of Essential Stitch Guides.  (One of these is  Stumpwork, a 
technique that uses needlelace stitches.)  Search Press  publishes and 
binds these and a number of other books in this way.   They cost about $22 in 
U.S./Canada, 11 pounds in U.K.  
 
There are a lot of people privately publishing books with weak  covers that 
have steeper prices.  As a responsible collector of books,  I then have to 
add costly protection so they will not self-destruct.
 
For Ulrike's great variety of book sizes and loose pages, 15 years ago  I 
bought plastic boxes 12 1/2 x 10 x 2 with hinged lids, and stuck  her name 
on the edges that equal book spines.  The same are used for  Springett's 
variety of books that are too thin to stand on their own.   Alas, this style 
of box is no longer available.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace  Embroidery Resource Center (4,000  books)

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Re: [lace] Crowood books

2014-01-08 Thread Anna Binnie

I've just checked
 the book is available at the Book Depository

 http://www.bookdepository.com/Cause-English-Lace-Anne-Buck/9780903585262

free postage to Australia

Hope this helps

Anna from a wet Sydney

On 9/01/14 12:49 AM, David C COLLYER wrote:

Dear Friends,

 publication details of In the Cause of English Lace
(which, of course, they already have) in the hope they can find it. I
added
that there are some lacemakers who would sell their grandmothers to
get their
hands on a legal copy!


I bought this book from Crowood about 2 weeks ago with full Master Card
details etc. Then just a couple of nights ago I received an email from
them saying that the book is no longer available and that nothing will
be deducted from my Master Card!

What a pain!!
David in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace] print on demand

2014-01-08 Thread Malvary Cole

I have a notebook which has 5 rings at the top and 9 at the bottom with a
space so that a label can be put on the spine.  It also has a firm cover and
when closed the rings only stick out a little at the back and not at the
sides at all, which means it doesn't catch on things when put on a shelf.
Because it is rings the pages open flat.

You can see an example at the site below - called an Account Record Book (an
account of rather than financial accounts).

http://www.buyonlinenow.ca/buy/blueline-account-record-book-BLIA7903C01.asp

Malvary in Ottawa where it was only -13 today with a wind-chill
of -21, but I still have a skating rink for a driveway.

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